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Say goodbye to opening multiple tabs at once with multi-process firefox and ANY ad blocker.

If you load more than 10 tabs at once then e10s will be much slower than non-e10s if you have adblocker installed. And by "much slower" I mean from 60% to 1800% slower.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1192585#c17

So what future awaits you, with ads or without Danbooru?
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>>55159637
Why not use some other fork?
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So it will be about as fast as Chrome then.
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>>55159637
>ublock still faster with twice the lists active
jesus fuck


This is really concerning besides that point. e10s might be more stable but slowing your browser down this much is not a good thing.
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>>55159650
Are you retarded? or did the forks implement asynchronous content blocking without Mozilla
>>55159698
chrome is completely async
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>>55159637
>Using adblock and not ublock

Well...
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>>55159735
ublock is a wee bit faster but result is virtually same. it's literally there in that bug report
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>>55159637
then you just have to disable e10s...
oh wait, it's mozilla, they won't allow it
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ublock and adblock plus use compatibility shims for e10s compatibility apparently.

http://www.arewee10syet.com/

Might have something to do with it.
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So is everyone going to jump to pale moon now?
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i switched to chromium because firefox is an unresponsive piece of shit that will outright freeze if you dared to open more than 15 tabs. chromium is fast as fuck, only used to use more ram but since some updates that's not true either. plus chromium has tab suspend addon to save ram. i expected that multiprocess will make firefox maybe a bit more bearable but if this is true that firefox will descend to some new lows where it's not even funny anymore.

in few years we won't have any truly open web browser.
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Barely affects me. If it does cause enough of a problem I can just disable e10s they'll leave the option in while they're still working on it.
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Someone notify the gorilla and he'll fix it in a few days. Then we can laugh even more at people using anything other than uBlock Origin.
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/issues
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Mozilla has more important things to do such as making Unicode characters display in the correct color instead of using the one defined by the website.
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>>55159780
Welp fuck diden't read the rest of it.
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>>55160177
>No extensions
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It uses all your cores. Making it faster wasn't part of the requirements.
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>not noscripting everything
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>>55159637
does it help if i use xul-ext-ublock-origin instead of the browser plugin?
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>>55159637
Instead of creating new processes to fix stability, they should fix their codebase.
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>>55160195
Nice shilling
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>>55159637
I've been masturbating for months with Firefox Developer Edition, e10s and uBlock Origin™

Never had any issues with it.
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>>55159637

Not related to the topic problem but, who the fuck used more than 20 tabs at regular basis?
I barely used 10 in regular days.
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Well that's it, firefox is over and finished
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>>55161641
>Not related to the topic problem but, who the fuck used more than 20 tabs at regular basis?
I have ~1k open
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>>55161641
I use over 100 regularly. What's wrong pleb?
>>55161661
I applaud you sir, for you are a god
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>>55159637
will i be force into using multi-process firefox? is it obligatory/are they abandoning the single-process development?

using tree style tabs + noscript + ublock is the only thing this shit browser is good for these days. if i have to ditch either one of these extensions, i might as well as use something else
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>>55161641
it's pretty normal for me using >50
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>>55161661
>>55161675
>>55161683
>regularly

Pic or it didn't happen.
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>>55161680
*umatrix, not ublock. though i do have ublock origin and adblock plus since even with 100+ tabs it still works and i don't want to take any risks with retarded ads
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>>55161675
My maximum was ~10k but then it becomes really laggy and unbearable, not to mention that it takes more that 30 minutes to open.
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>>55161696
Why the hell would you have umatrix and ublock at the same time as noscript and abp?
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>>55161712
block all the ads
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>>55161730
But... you can do that with just ublock origin if you just want to block all ads.
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>>55161695
Not them, but pic related.
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>>55161929
>3/217

3 tabs open out of 217?
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>>55161746
the problem is that one malicious ad goes thorough and your computer is fucked. i have a decent computer, i don't mind the overhead. my browser works without problems until i hit 100 tabs anyway. and i start having problems because firefox can't seem to manage going beyond 1gb ram. it started having these sorts of issues once people started complaining about it eating up ram and mozilla made it start releasing allocated ram. either way, it just werks (and it could work better if i had the option of firefox being more liberal with ram usage, which sadly isn't an option now that they just work on features they want instead of things users actually need)
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>>55162036
>the problem is that one malicious ad goes thorough and your computer is fucked
This is not how it works anon.

>my browser works without problems until i hit 100 tabs
100 is a low number

>firefox can't seem to manage going beyond 1gb ram
It can just fine here

Anyhow, ublock supports the same lists that abp supports and even more, so using abp offers nothing extra.
As for noscript, ublock by itself can fully replace it, same goes for umatrix.

Anyhow, do you have umatrix and noscript at block-all-by-default mode? if not, they do not protect you at all.
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>>55160177
I rather go back to Chrome.
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>>55162170
> do you have umatrix and noscript at block-all-by-default mode?
yes

i've tried using only ublock without adblock in the past but the ad blocking looked kind of weird
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>>55162249
>but the ad blocking looked kind of weird
Like?
Did you add more filters or did you stayed at the default ones?
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>>55159637
>So what future awaits you, with ads or without Danbooru?

The future where I don't use the piece of shit known as Furrycux, which also happens to be the past and present.
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>>55161641
Usually, most people who post their retarded crash-stats, just haven't figured out alt+d.
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>>55159704
>uhide
No thanks.
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>>55160195
I don't know what you're doing wrong but I have 94 tabs open right now on v47.
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>>55159637
Why isn't this thread deleted yet?
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>>55163488
The pic is technically SFW. She isn't showing anything other than her panties.
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>>55164319
I strongly doubt that. If an IT guy sets the desktop backgrounds at work to this image, I sincerely doubt that the rest of the company is going to appreciate it if they are not actually an anime production company.
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>>55164319
It's definitely NSFW.

It doesn't need nudity to be NSFW.
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>>55163488
Because technically correct is the best kind of connect, prude.
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Use vivaldi. Can load more than 10 tabs fine. Hast tab stacking and really pretty ui.
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>>55161641
I feel uncomfortable having the tabs reach the end of the bar.
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>>55161641
only when I'm finding porn. other than that I usually have 5 tabs at most open.
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>>55163488
Feet are SFW
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>>55159637
puffy
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>>55159719
The other forks dropped e10s because it was stupid stupid stupid.
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>>55164940
doesn't have treestyletabs, dropped.

>>55162182
doesn't have treestyletabs, dropped.

>>55160666
Like what?
Every extension I need is here...
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>>55159637
I swapped to Chrome about a week ago and haven't looked back since. Chrome uses more memory, but it uses it consistently. I don't have to worry about my browser suddenly jumping up >4gb in memory and shifting into my paging file because of memory leaks.

I use a combination of The Great Suspender and Session Buddy for tab management, if any other Firefox tab hoarders are curious or avoiding other browsers because of it.
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>>55160666
>he doesn't know how to make his extensions compatible
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>>55165545
Panties and sexual implications aren't.
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>>55164364
>>55164385
>>55165637

I mean in terms of 4chan, it's SFW. It's literally like those threads where some anon starts the thread by posting some half naked bimbo just wearing a skimpy bra. Yeah, in the workplace, it's NSFW, but why are you browsing 4chan at work?
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>>55164364
>>55164385
>>55165637
go to bed grandpa.
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>>55159637
does her feet smell good?
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>>55166038
any 2d feet smell nice
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>>55159637
>https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1192585#c17
What about uBlock?
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>>55166160
>>55159780
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>>55160096
When has mozilla ever not allowed disabling something?
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>>55161641
I have 200 opened right but I have them set to load until selected. I restart firefox at least once every day.
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>>55165586
>Like what?
do all of pentadactyl, umatrix, ublock work?
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>>55166219
>load when selected
personally I can't stand this. I'd rather spend 20-30 seconds loading all of the tabs once than spend an extra 5 seconds loading each tab individually every time I switch to it.

One is a one-time cost that I can easily do at a time where it doesn't bother me, the other is a continuous, interactive cost that slows down my browsing
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>2010+6
>not blocking ads with a 35$ raspberry pi that you can setup in ten minutes
when will you retards learn.
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>firefox
You deserve it, supporting SJeWs.
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>>55161675
>>55161661
>>55161929

Just use fucking bookmarks.
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>>55159637
Install Palemoon
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>>55166222
Yes.
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>>55166258
>Buying a peripheral to block ads
Literal Autism.
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>>55163488
This.

Wtf?
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>>55161641
I have more than 110 tabs open right now faggot. Anyone who uses a browser for browsing more than facebook does thanks to ebin dynamic contents, lack of permalink on anything, long load times on shitty web 3.0 pages, and uninsured longevity of content.
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>>55166204
They have certainly made it more difficult. Disabling the new tab page requires an addon for some moronic reason.
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>>55161641
If I have more then 3 tabs open my OCD start fucking with me
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>>55166204
When has mozilla allowed disabling australis, the new "menu pages", the hamburger menu with unicorns, and the new download menu that doesn't show any useful information and doesn't allow you to clear the list of downloads?
What about the new tab page, reader, pocket, hello, and other now-bundled malware?
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>>55166353
Really? Last time I checked, they depended on australis's UI API changes.

Did palemoon actually switch to the new UI system or are you just making shit up?
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>>55166444
I don't know what you mean by a new download menu, unless you're talking about the one that was introduced in version 5 or something as it hasn't really changed since then. You can clear the list of downloads by right clicking by the way.

But Classic Theme Restorer fixes all that if you don't want to much around with modifying the UI.
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>>55166405
>Disabling the new tab page requires an addon for some moronic reason.
What? No it doesn't

browser.newtab.url "about:blank"

also
browser.newtab.enabled false

(but if you use the former, I don't think the latter has any effect)
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My firefox freezes now and again, not exactly sure why, but I don't give a fuck, anything is better than the chrome botnet
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>>55166476
> You can clear the list of downloads by right clicking by the way.
Nope, you have to open the download details from the download menu and only then can you clear it. The download menu's list is a fake list.
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Just edit the hosts file and use Edge
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>>55166444
Australis isn't just a new theme they actually rewrote the interface code, removing the old code in the process. That's why it can't simply be disabled. Classic theme restorer modifies australis so it behaves similar to the old interface while still retaining the new code. It's a cleaner solution to the problem than providing both.
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>>55166444
>disabling australis,
That's just a theme. If you want a different theme, you're welcome to switch to your own

>the new "menu pages"
Not sure what you mean. Do you mean the new tab page? See >>55166478

>the hamburger menu with unicorns,
I don't have this enabled at all on my end. You can hide it with CSS if you want, or use an addon that replaces the settings menu

>and the new download menu that doesn't show any useful information
Do you mean about:downloads or do you mean the downloads dialog (
:dia downloads
in pentadactyl)? You can clear the download history in both: It's the right click menu for the former, and a button at the top of the screen for the latter.
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>>55166478
The browser.newtab.url in about:config was disabled in Firefox 41.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1118285
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>>55166512
Oh wow, I never realized that, since my newtab page is functionally identical to about:blank. (
browser.newtabpage.enabled=false
,
#newtab-customize-button { display: none; }
).
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>>55166444
>What about the new tab page
what about it?
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FF is the only browser where watching YT videos at 2x speed doesn't lag. Chrome lags all the time.
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>>55166584
I've never experienced lag on firefox but I think that's probably more dependent on your hardware configuration.
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>>55166504
>>55166508
>>55166577
>>55166560
All dem paid moSJWilla employees!
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>>55166444
>What about the new tab page
See >>55166560

>Reader
I don't see this at all, so I can't help you with that. I wager you can probably hide the button using a 1-line CSS style

>Pocket, Hello
They are regular addons now, you can disable them via the addon interface.

(In the past, you could disable them via about:config)
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so if I don't update firefox I'll be fine?
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>>55164940
>built using meme.js
Dropped
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>>55166361
>buying it purely for that
You lack imagination
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>>55161520
that is the browser extension, the only difference is you downloaded it from debian's repository
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>>55166647
This is how neo-luddism begins. Are you still stuck with your STD infested XP installation?
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>>55164940
>literal botnet
Dropped
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Just use icecat
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>>55166861
>just use firefox with a different logo and an extra addon preinstalled
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>>55166697
>Are you still stuck with your STD infested XP installation?
no.
are you?
what are you stuck on?
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>>55159637
Is e10s going to end up in SeaMonkey?
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>>55159637
>2016 using a adblocked addon
are you a casual?
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So everyone keeps saying firefox is going to suck - what browser should I be using instead?
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>>55167305
I think that's up to the seamonkey council. It might be difficult porting over though
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>>55167372
I figured once it gets hardened into Firefox SeaMonkey would be stuck with it
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>>55167365
Opera
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I've been experiencing slowdowns with my version of firefox. I've been looking into switching something out with it, but I'm not a fan of chrome. Any suggestions?
That aren't just straight-up trolling.
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>>55159637
So when is Servo coming out?
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>>55166584
For me it's the opposite. I can't watch streams on youtube on firefox because of stuttering. My only solution right now is to switch to Chrome.
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>>55169522
Some people still use older versions of Opera. It used to be so good before they fucked it up for no reason.
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>>55169611
You mean before version 12? Because I remember the fucker crashing 20 gorillion times before it was Chropera.
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>>55166289
nah im not a fag
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>>55169633
Yeah. I never had any problem with them, though. Crashes or anything else.
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>>55159698
Chrom{e,ium} is weird, man. I have 2 machines:

Main machine: i7, 16 GB RAM, SSD, basically fast as hell doing most things. Main browser is Firefox. On Chromium I start to feel the lag a bit after a few tabs.

Netbook: Some potato AMD APU that only eats a few watts, 4 GB RAM, 5400 RPM HDD. Firefox lags like a bastard with even 2-3 tabs open. Somehow Chromium manages just fine with a couple dozen tabs, but lags if I try to use Youtube. Firefox performs better on Youtube but that's it.
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>>55169942
Same thing here, Chrome does this weird thing where the window shows up as white and takes like 20 seconds to show anything on my main rig with a 6700k.
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>>55169973
My theory is Chrome sorta chokes if you have too much RAM. It chugs along too long without garbage collecting because there's no need to -- it assumes that Chrome is the only thing you ever want to run and will try to consume more RAM until you're out.

Meanwhile on a potato computer, it keeps bumping into that "low RAM" condition and keeps itself clean and optimized.
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>2016
>unironically using firefox
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>>55170078
>2016
>not having "too much" RAM for Chrome to run well
>not browsing comfortably with lots of tabs because your computer is capable of it
>using some shitty meme browser that doesn't render half the sites correctly
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>>55161641
I have more than 10 pinned right now. They are the sites I go to regularly and don't really need multiple tabs on. Past that you can basically think of my tabs as temporary/backlog that I'm not dealing with well at all
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>>55170019
>>55170187
How much RAM is too much RAM?
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>>55166258
>increasing network latency because you didn't want to use up 30mb of ram
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>>55165566
multi-process is not stupid
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>>55161641
I have 148 open tabs.
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Edge masterrace, really...
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>>55170677
I don't know, but from my computers, 4 GB is fine and 16 GB is too much.
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>>55170714
You open a drawer and see four items: a diamond, a sapphire, a bowling pin, and a turd. You can take only one.

You choose the turd.
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>>55170677
>>55170019
>>55169973
I don't know if I entirely agree with Chrome performing worse on more RAM. I have 32GB on my main machine and have never had any issues. Chrome does eat RAM like crazy though. Sitting at about 13GB used by Chrome alone. On my 16GB TP, Chrome does fine and will eat up to about 12GB of RAM before it starts to clean house. On my work TP which has 8GB of RAM I notice some lag here and there when Chrome has eaten about 6GB of RAM. That is the only machine without an SSD though.
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>>55170779
no, not really considering FF cant into multi process and Chrome is google
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>>55166400

>I got a hundred of tabs open but I barely used 1/10 of them and let them like that for months.

Congratz, you are the only person who reply to me with retarded attitude.
Still no one explain to me what's the point of having hundreds of tabs open at the same time.
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>>55170803
why not?
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>>55159637
>opening more than 10 tabs on FF ever
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>>55170795
I'm the guy with 16 GB and a lagging Chromium. What OS do you have? Both my machines are Windows 8.1 x64.
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>>55170836
Kubuntu 14.04 and Windows 7. I have noticed no lag on either machine with an SSD. The HDD based machine does lag when it's starting to run out of RAM.
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>>55170828

I don't know.
I don't see the point of having unused tabs that I barely remember what was it from months ago.
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>>55170848
Maybe something with extensions then? Or Chrome vs. Chromium? On both machines I've got Chromium with uBlock Origin and almost nothing else. The potato netbook has a random extension to replace the new tab page because the default one is apparently too heavy and takes irritatingly long to load.
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>>55170908
Version 52.0.2743.41 beta (64-bit) with 17 active extensions.
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>>55166512
>Let's remove functionality because some people are retarded
Next thing they'll remove the password manager because it's easy to read someone's passwords from the file it saves.
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>>55170955
That uhh actually sounds like a good reason
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>>55171363
It will always be possible to read out passwords if you don't encrypt them with a master password, no way around it.
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It took firefox 10 years to do what chrome has done all along

Tab* tab = new Tab(address_url);
Thread* thread = new Thread();
thread->run();
tab->moveToThread(thread);

wow, so hard
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>>55171676
Thread != process faggot
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>>55171755
Threads are better than ""processes"". What, do you expect fork() to exist on every platform? Git gud scrub.
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>>55166465
I never had problems with ublock or umatrix on pale moon. I did have problems with HTTPS Everywhere, but like most incompatible extensions, a fork of it for PM was on github.
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>>55171764
>What, do you expect fork() to exist on every platform?
On every worthwhile platform.

Simulating fork() is simple af anyway. just use dup and a goto
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>>55170803
inbred
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>>55170803
>what's the point of having hundreds of tabs open at the same time.
Go to danbooru and search your favorite tag. Middle click every interesting picture you find for the first 10 pages. Then go to each tab and save each image. That's a very simple use-case. In fact, it should be for most gallery websites.
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>>55161641
>tfw you have over 400 tabs open right now

I use them instead of bookmarks
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>>55171764
>What, do you expect fork() to exist on every platform?
Yes, I fully expect fork() or a suitable equivalent to be available on any platform that supports proper multitasking.
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>>55171854
Well congrats, because fork() has no equivalent on Windows.
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>>55171859
CreateProcess is suitable. You can launch additional processes and exchange data with them without the same system call that makes the process cloning all data from the calling process.
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>>55171764
um,

what
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>>55171890
yeah but is it POSIX compatible ??

Checkmate athiests
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>>55159637
>without Danbooru?
I'll keep using my own scraper and browser.
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>>55171850
Why? Doesn't FF autocomplete the address bar?
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>>55171980
Are you clinically retarded or merely pretending?
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>>55172010
what? Any modern browser should search your bookmarks when you input into the address bar. It's definitely easier than sifting through 400 tabs lol
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>>55172010
says the person who has 400 tabs stacked up instead of bookmarks organized into folders
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>>55172036
Not pretending I see. How sad that /g/ has devolved so much.
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>>55172069
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>>55172055
>I have never used a web browser for anything except facebook in my life
>>>/reddit/
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>>55172084
>tumblr pic
As expected. /g/ really is over.
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>>55172090
Clinical retard confirmed
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>>55169534
2020
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>>55161459
This.

People on /g/ harping on about uBlock are children and deserve all the viruses
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>>55172262
What. NoScript blocks a lot of stuff, but it doesn't block all obnoxious ads, particularly GIF and Youtube ones. If you allow a domain for one script you need, it also allows any other unwanted scripts on the same domain.

uMatrix is better, but is still best used with uBlock.
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>>55172262
mate...
What the fuck are you smoking, do you even know what virus is? Or what noscript and ublock can do?
Just leave, the quality of /g/ has dropped terribly the last years.

>>55172342
>but it doesn't block all obnoxious ads, particularly GIF and Youtube ones
It does not block ANY ads, only coincidentally because some of the ads need javascript to function.

>uMatrix is better, but is still best used with uBlock.
uMatrix is indeed better in every single way, however technically ublock alone with dynamic filtering enabled can fully replace noscript.
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>>55172512
>It does not block ANY ads, only coincidentally because some of the ads need javascript to function.
Exactly... and the ones that give you viruses are typically that sort.
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>>55172561
Stop talking shit please, no ad can give you virus.
Moreover, when you start allowing javascript on sites because you can't otherwise the ads get shown as well.
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>>55172609
>Stop talking shit please, no ad can give you virus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malvertising
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>>55172662
>it can work its way into a webpage and spread through a system unknowingly
topkek

Anyhow, you get malware only if you are a retard, run windows and actually download the shitware they offer you.
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>>55172685
Some malware can infect pre-click, just from the scripts attached to the ad. Javascript in a web page is code being run on your computer, and browsers' sandboxing is not always perfect.

True, most of it attacks Windows, but there have even been some cross-platform cryptolocker type things written entirely in Javascript.
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>>55172737
>Some malware can infect pre-click
That's not how it works anon.

>and browsers' sandboxing is not always perfect
0-day attacks on browsers are extremely rare and could as well be triggered only by allowing html to run.

Anyhow, if you are >>55172262, could you please explain why do you believe that noscript does a better job?
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>>55172772
Rarer than post click, sure. But these things do happen, particularly in Flash based ads since new Flash vulns are pretty common, and unupdated Flash Player installations are also common.
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>>55165631
How, then?
If I can get Greasemonkey and uBlock/uMatrix to work, I'd a switch in a heartbeat.
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>>55166647
They will probably fix it before e10s release. If not, you probably won't hit it anyway. It only affects loading a ton of tabs at once, which isn't that common.
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What's e10? I didn't think there was anything after e9.
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>>55159637
the fuck would i open 10 tabs at once for?
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>>55171676
Wow, brilliant. You should put your patch on bugzilla for review.
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>>55172926
Shitposting.
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>>55172903
ublock/umatrix are compatible
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Jesus titty shits. WTF happened to my v? It's twenty god damn sixteen. Why is anyone filtering their network on the endpoint? v has become a place for casuals who like stickers on laptops, hotrodded DEs, and circle jerking about video cards. I bet you in two years this place turns into 4chan.org/kodewithkarly/

This shit is ridiculous.
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>>55172926
For porn.

>>55171676
Firefox supports multithreading since the middle ages.

Chrome always supporting multiprocessing all along.

>type* var
you are a retard.

>>55171859
It does, ZwCreateProcess

>>55171789
>>55171854
things like posix_spawn are better but a bit more limited. fork as an architecture is not that good.
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>>55172973
>WTF happened to my v?
go back there
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>>55173012
>>WTF happened to my v?
>go back there

I'm trying to but it's full of fucking casuals and wannabes.
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>>55173079
Just leave from /g/, thanks.
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>>55166258
>he thinks that is better than ublock/umatrix which blocks both requests and removes empty space in pages
ok
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>>55166258
>raspberry pi
Doesn't respect your freedoms you customerist fag

Not to mention that you could just configure the hosts file and that it only supports domain-based filtering.
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>>55173079
welcome to post-2007 /v/.
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>>55172262
>not going noscript/uBlock/uMatrix triple condom style
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>>55173521
Why did /v/ become so shit? It used to be great.
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>>55173578
Oh, it's the retard again.
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>>55161641
Every fucking place there's this one fag going "who needs so many" to any tab related question/discussion. Just kill yorself, asshole.
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>>55173598
/v/ was never great winfag.
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>>55173620
>muh 25kbs of ram
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>>55173598
Redditumblr invasion. Normalfags going to socialmedias and advertising 4chan to their normalfag friends. Along with media exposure and the explosion of social media popularity, google-searchability of 4chan, and online game activities (habbo hotel etc.) This gave rise to generals, which brought even more people to 4chan since that meant a lot of information about popular games were compiled and were searchable via google.
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>>55173650
Except you are wrong, it's both ram (which happens to be multiple MiB) and speed.
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>>55173663
>speed
Can't block what's already blocked, there's virtually no slowdown
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>>55173673
Damn, forgot to write the text.

This is what user verification should be like so we avoid normalfags.
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>>55173674
Are you a retard? Just parsing the shit will take tons of time.
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>>55173687
If I wanted to turn my computer into a frying pan I'd buy an Nvidia GPU
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>>55173687
Basically yes, there should be a complex user verification process that's only possible if the person really belongs on the board AND has lurked enough to solve it. In exchange, it should only be necessary to complete it every so often (such as once a day, or even less).
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>>55169633
Version 12 included. I'm using it right now. Been using Opera since ~10 or 11, never had any issues with it.
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>>55173084
>Just leave from /g/, thanks.
Shut up, you fucking normie.
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>>55173648
>/v/ was never great winfag.

Fuck off, newfag. This place was great.
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So what is the real reason you need to open 400 tabs at the same time in every occasion instead of having a bookmark?
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>>55173867
when masturbating to anime girls
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>>55173867
See >>55166400
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>>55173867
Not cluttering my bookmarks with shit I only need temporarily.
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>>55173885

400 tabs doesn't sounds like temporary for me.
Did you open new 400 tabs and leave them open until the end of the day?

How do you even navigate those shit?
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This is why I'm glad I switched to Palemoon last year. Did they gut the extension framework yet? I assume not, since it would have been all over /g/.
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>>55173907
400 tabs over accumulated over ~two weeks is very temporary, especially compared to bookmarks I've had for years.
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>>55173940
>>55173907
>How do you even navigate that shit
Organization
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>>55173907
Tab groups.
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>>55173957
Deprecated t. mozillhurr
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>>55174048
Nom it's just an extension instead of being built into your browser now.
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>>55172819
>2016
>Flash

When will the summer end?
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>>55173940
>400 tabs over accumulated over ~two weeks

What tabs are those exactly, just curious.

I never seen people with hundreds tabs that open at the same time.
Did you browse all 400 of them daily or just let them hang there without reason?
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>>55171846
>go to each tab and save each image
>Not DownThemAll! (All Tabs)

What are you doing, anon?
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>>55173309
>Doesn't respect your freedoms you customerist fag
What? How does it not?
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>>55174325
Some sites actually use Flash and aren't usable without it. Therefore many people have it installed though they don't use it often. Ads do use it though.
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>>55174362
References for various projects I'm working on. I'll leave a tab stack open for them, collapse the stack when I switch to something else, and close the stack when the tabs are no longer needed
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>>55164385
>NSFW
>FW
>W
>work
>working
>on $current_year

I thought I was on 4chan's /g/, but apparently I'm on facebook or something.
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>>55173734
this https://gbatemp.net/threads/what-is-the-output-of-date-u-f-sha1sum-head-c8-echo.430830/
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>>55173817
>normie
normie was a term invented by politically correct normalfags that were too scared to use the term normalfag
Also
>a /v/tard calling others normies

>>55173858
/v/ was always considered as SHIT by /g/, just go back there and leave us alone.
You are the newfag in here.
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>>55174424
non-free drivers and firmware
even worse, they try to trick you https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTIxNDk
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>>55174362
Not him but, about 20-30 4chan tabs, 40 papers, 30-40 pages related to the papers (programs, result comparison, contact info, etc.), github and gitgud pages (for issue tracking and repository status), 4-5 trackers pages for torrents of various kinds, extra pages for side projects (blogposts, github pages, tutorials for whatever tools I'm about to work with), 3-4 language references pages based on the languages I use, wikipedia articles to quickly get commonly used equations (e.g. gaussian pdist, KL divergence, etc.) to make sure I don't typo them, videogame references (e.g. pages about various skills or enemies).

I typically use around 80% of all open tabs daily.
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Will we ever get a decent web browser?
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>>55169942
I once did a rough test between chrome and Firefox on my old laptop with 8400m with a webpage that rotated and alternatively blinked 3 vector images each having variable speed spanning to screen size (1280x800) each containing 1000+ stars. Surprisingly Firefox better utilized the GPU and gave about 40+ fps while chrome gave about 25fps.
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>>55169633
12.16 hardly ever crashed for me. I could have 75+ tabs open easy and it would still run smoothly. It's a damn shame that a bunch of sites I use just don't work with it anymore, using Chrome is awful. I'll never understand how people think that this is a good browser. It's not as if Firefox is any better either to be honest.
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>>55169609
mpv
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>>55174686
We should make one.
/g/browser

I'll make the logo
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>>55159637
>So what future awaits you, with ads or without Danbooru?
Wait, are you telling me there are people right now on /g/ who browse boorus with a web browser instead of using hydrus?
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>>55174686
We had one, still do if you're okay with the last update being in 2013
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>>55174931
It would have been nice if those fucks made Presto open source.
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>>55175000
We at least need someone to leak it
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>>55174931
>windows
>non-free
we never had one
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Oh look, /g/ going apeshit over a troll posting a bug that will be solved in the next weeks, before any stable user will ever encounter it (e10s is still experimental and not enabled by default in most cases). It's like someone is getting paid to shit on Mozilla.

>>55174931

Except that site compatibility went to shit and it's almost unusable. I know because I used to use it before switching to Firefox full time. Guess what I've found? That Firefox is more configurable and basically just better in any single way.

>>55172772
>could you please explain why do you believe that noscript does a better job?

Not him, but a nice advantage noscript has over uMatrix is script surrogates.
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>>55175000
>open source
*free software
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>>55175000
But then people would find out about all the malware in the code, anon.
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>>55175080
I use Decentraleyes for that.
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>>55175069
>Opera is Windows-only
How retarded are you?
>freetard
Oh I see, very retarded.

>>55175080
>Except that site compatibility went to shit and it's almost unusable
Yeah some sites don't work, I end up using SeaMonkey once or twice a week. The neat thing is that it only takes a second to load SeaMonkey so it's not like it's a big deal
>Guess what I've found? That Firefox is more configurable and basically just better in any single way.
That's a blatant lie.
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>>55175185
>hates freedom
leave
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>>55175000

A professional development team couldn't keep it at pace with the evolving web standards and optimize it in order not to choke on the js-ridden web, and you expect an hypothetical community of nostalgics to get their hands dirty and wake Opera up from the grave their own developers put it in?

It would have consultational value at most.

Anyway, it's not going to happen because Opera had it licensed in cars and other embedded systems with no expiration date.
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>>55175214
Where did I say I hate freedom?
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>>55166465
Enable legacy toolbars in uBlock / uMatrix and it should work fine in Pale Moon and SeaMonkey.
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>>55159637
It will be fixed in the future, be realistic.
FF is too slow for me anyways.
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>>55175185
>That's a blatant lie.

That's my experience. Many websites were broken/slow in old Opera, and they work just fine in Firefox. Extensions such as Tab Mix Plus provide a level of control that Opera never did natively. about:config is a direct replacement of opera:config. The interface is completely themable with CSS. Worst comes to worst, I can edit the source code myself.

I suggest you to tried it. My life significantly improved when I switched.
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>>55175274
>>55171782
Cool, good to know. What about pentadactyl? That's the most important of the three
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>>55175326
Firefox may be comparable to Opera, but it still lacks many features (some that aren't even implemented in extensions, ones that are are either passable or poorly done) and just doesn't cut it. It's neat that you were able to accept Firefox's weaknesses and downgrade, but I'll be using Opera till it either simply doesn't work or a true successor comes along.
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>>55175352
>It's neat that you were able to accept Firefox's weaknesses

I did not find any. I only gained from that. What are you missing?
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