Sir, please enter your encryption passphrase and login password.
>>55157736
>"No"
>>55157766
Is it a crime to say no?
>>55157736
actually if you look at the law, they are allowed to view your laptop. I couldn't believe it but it is in fact written into the law.
>>55157789
No, but they have every right to refuse entry to you or your laptop.
You guys would be screwed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y_5b1JsIs4
>Sure thing officer
>Wrong PW
>Wrong PW
>Wrong PW
>Wrong PW
>Wrong PW
>Oh my gosh I'm sorry, I was under stress and typed it wrong
>Drive is formatted because you not an idiot and made a script to format if the wrong PW is entered 5 times in a row
>Go about your day
TSA won't ask for it, if you're flying internationally then customs can.
>>55157963
>get jailed indefinitely for destruction of evidence
>>55157736
Password: orlandofaggots49
Sorry, I don't have a hard drive installed in order to maximize my carrying mass. I am planning to buy a new hard drive in my destination
>>55157789
No, but then they can say they are confiscating the device.
>>55157789
I think you have the right to not reveal your password in the States as not to incriminate yourself.
>>55157936
>Goes to a country with no money to support himself, or evidence someone at the destination country will pay for their stay
Furtrash are retarded, news at 11.
>>55158590
Plenty of people have been jailed for refusing to give up their passwords.
>>55158623
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/09/forcing-suspects-to-reveal-phone-passwords-is-unconstitutional-court-says/
>>55158623
And every single one, except one case where the police already saw the evidence on the drive but the power died; was ruled unconstitutional.
>>55158645
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36159146
Just one of many.
>>55158084
Evidence of what? Where's the reasonable cause?
>be white
>never have this problem
feels gud
>>55158709
>Where's the reasonable cause?
>officer asks you to unlock device
>wipe hard drive
Gee I fucking wonder. If you think "ermagerd I was nervous and typed the wrong password enough times to wipe the device" will hold up then you're retarded or 12.
>>55158680
more info:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/04/child-porn-suspect-jailed-for-7-months-for-refusing-to-decrypt-hard-drives/
>The authorities have called two witnesses...
>a forensic examiner who testified that it was his "best guess" that cheese pizza was on the drives
Jailed for 7 months already, and possibly the rest of his life until he coughs up the passwords.
No evidence. He was raided for merely connecting to Freenet.
>>55158709
Fucking lol.
>Wipes computer
>Evidence?!?!?!
I'm sorry Officer, I can not do that. I have confidential files and it would be a crime to allow you to view them.
>>55158949
No you retard he downloaded CP from a freenet honeypot.
>>55158709
Of you being a dirty sand nigger terrorist
In a country that arrests, tries and convicts people for decades without a single fucking shred of evidence other than "he looks like he would have done it" why are faggots surprised when crossing the fucking border they ask you for your laptop and password to its contents?
>Sir, please enter your decryption passphrase and login password.
FTFY
>>55158623
Not everyone lives in the UK anon.
>>55159872
If he was downloading from a honeypot, they would have the evidence needed to charge him with a crime, instead of continually holding him for contempt of court for refusing to give up his passwords.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>THE LAND OF THE FREEKEKS
>>55160124
If you use encryption, you have something to hide. It's completely justified to arrest or detain or monitor everyone who uses encryption.
wait, is cuck being replaced again?
cuck
So when I go to the US I should just not bring my laptop?
>>55160141
You dumbass, only if you type it all uppercase is it filtered.
cuck
C&CK
KEK
KEKOLD
>>55160141
Only in caps
Cuck
KEK
>>55160140
that's the most fucking retarded answer and it's grossly misguided. Fuck you for being an idiot.
>>55160158
>You dumbass, only if you type it all uppercase is it filtered.
how the fuck am I meant to just know that without testing it out?
>>55160169
Why would you need encryption? And if you had nothing to hide, you would decrypt the drive for the police. Admit you, you want to hide your child porn or terrorism plans.
>>55160198
>Why would you need encryption?
I have sensitive information on my machine. NEETS however cannot comprehend this though.
>>55160143
Anytime you cross a border, they ask you if you have something to declare. Suppose the book 1984 is illegal wherever you are going, and you happen to have it in text files in your laptop.
It is no different than you walking through customs with the physical book, the only way for them to know is to actually look through your laptop. You can refuse of course, but refusal is like admitting you have it or other contraband in your laptop and you would be free to enter without the laptop.
So with that in mind, any time you motherfuckers cross a god damn border. Clean your laptops and leave nothing but the OS in it.
>>55157736
I'm sorry officer, but this computer contains proprietary material and trade secrets. I am not at liberty to release them.
>>55160198
>And if you had nothing to hide, you would decrypt the drive for the police
What if I have something to hide ?
>>55157736
Sure thing, officer.
>>55158743
How can they prove it got wiped though
I don't give a fuck because the only thing on my laptop is boring work stuff that isn't confidential to begin with.
>>55157736
No, I don't want anyone to see my MLP porn.
>>55160800
You only have something to hide if you're a terrorist or pedo. Your lolicon is child porn and you know it.
>>55158729
Have you even read some of the articles linked in this thread you /pol/ faggot shitface?
>>55158680
have you even read any of the court documents on this case? he admitted to it, people saw it, and only now he is declining. this isnt some stupid MUH PRIVACY bullshit tools like you want to spout, this is a special case where it is 100% justified.
fucking idiot
>>55157786
Tip: TSA != international border patrol
>>55157789
>>55157832
Not complying with border patrol when crossing international boarders leads to 1) laptop/smartphones completely byte-copied and eventually confiscated 2) you being denied to enter the state 3) interpol being informed of the incident 4) if you attempted to enter the US as non-US citizen, you are now on a no-fly list.
>>55160863
>How can they prove it got wiped though
>asks for password to decrypt
>gets wiped
>suddenly doesn't ask for anything
Gee, I fucking wonder. Or
>now writing a bunch of fucking zeros to the drive, please wait 3 hours while the HDD activity LED goes solid
>>55160140
No its not thats literally a thought crime
>>55160986
>boarders
fuck this auto-correct
>>55158729
Feels pretty good. All the shitskins in this thread are scared their child porn and terrorists plans will be found.
>>55158584
>Sorry, I don't have a hard drive installed in order to maximize my carrying mass. I am planning to buy a new hard drive in my destination
this
no one will ever ever ask you to install your harddrive anywhere to see its contents
>>55157736
>encrypt your data
>upload it to a server
>securely wipe your drive
>install a quick distro
>fly
>download files
>decrypt
at least if you're flying out of the country
>>55160839
followed by promptly by going into non-hidden volume
or booting straight into gentoo on your other hdd
>>55161051
>>55158584
This is suspicious as fuck. Better carry a harmless drive with harmless, boring data.
>>55161080
>Gentoo
Red flag. Use Windows XP or Windows 7.
>>55160961
He admitted to nothing. The only person that 'saw it' was his sister. She claimed they looked at it together, but he says his sister was estranged and upset at him over something.
>>55161081
I could have arch installed with no real GUI and then what?
>>55161113
Hell what if I go into the airport with a non-bootable drive, IE a laptop with a HDD with NOTHING on it
>>55161113
>I could install a distro that will me single out for the schizo autist I am, and then what?
>>55161139
This is suspicious for TSA too. You have to prove that the laptop can boot.
>>55161113
Linux is suspicious, that's a hacker OS. Install windows 10 with steam and chrome on it.
>>55161151
>>I could install a distro that will me single out for the schizo autist I am, and then what?
having a linux machine is not reasonable suspicion to be on some terror watchlist
>you have to prove
no, I'm innocent until being proven guilty. They can turn on the laptop and the BIOS will scream "NO BOOTABLE MEDIA FOUND"
>>55158590
One of the guys that came to Lambdaconf last year did this and they confiscated his laptop. He still hasn't gotten it back and doubts he ever will.
>>55157736
lq2hardware?
>>55157736
>not having an unencrypted windows 7 installed just for that occasion
>>55161155
these neet faggots have no self awareness
>>55161162
why doesn't anyone sue the TSA for their unconstitutional shit
>>55157736
AM I BEING DETAINED? AM I BEING DETAINED? AM I BEING DETAINED? AM I BEING DETAINED? AM I BEING DETAINED? AM I BEING DETAINED? AM I BEING DETAINED? AM I BEING DETAINED? AM I BEING DETAINED? AM I BEING DETAINED? AM I BEING DETAINED? AM I BEING DETAINED? AM I BEING DETAINED? AM I BEING DETAINED? AM I BEING DETAINED? AM I BEING DETAINED? AM I BEING DETAINED? AM I BEING DETAINED? AM I BEING DETAINED? AM I BEING DETAINED? AM I BEING DETAINED? AM I BEING DETAINED? AM I BEING DETAINED? AM I BEING DETAINED? AM I BEING DETAINED? AM I BEING DETAINED? AM I BEING DETAINED? AM I BEING DETAINED? AM I BEING DETAINED?
>>55161159
>being an hacker is not reasonable suspicion
you're not talking with a lawyer, you're talking to an officer. The harder you go that route, the more you'll look like a dangerous extremist.
>innocent until proven guilty
again, you're not talking to a lawyer. A TSA agent can deny you access to your flight, __even for domestic flight__ if __he__ believes that your device doesn't boot. NO BOOTABLE MEDIA FOUND would be MIND=BLOWN
>>55161178
Because they'll shove their arm inside your anus.
>>55161099
Doe refused to provide investigators with the password or encryption codes to his computer or computer equipment, telling detectives that he “didn’t want [the detectives] looking” at his computer
He gives him his phone and iPad. They find a recovery key for the computer hidden on the phone. They unlock his computer.
From there they find his Freenet searches and see the files that he downloaded and match the hash values (unique identifiers) of the files to those that they had from other investigations. The files
"were described as follows: 4-and 6-year-old children, 10-and 13-year-old children, and 8-and 10-year-old children, all engaged in oral sex and being sexually abused by adults. The forensic exam of the MacPro computer confirmed that Doe successfully downloaded child pornography, and that he stored the downloaded child pornography on his external hard drives. The forensic exam of the Mac Pro computer also revealed that Doe used numerous message boards related to child pornography to communicate with others who had an interest in child pornography.
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>>55161190
Jeez I'd say "NO, SIR, CALM DOWN OR YOU'RE BEING SHOT"
>>55161197
Okay, so that's one case. But get this - while this is going on, the guy gets a new phone. Case#2 - His family knows he's into child porn and they have an intervention. He then admits to taking pictures of his young nieces including a 4 year-old. He shows the family a video he took while she was sleeping of where he moves her underwear and films her genital area. He also had about 15-25 upskirt shots of his 6 year-old niece. Police were called and a responding officer reviewed the images, as did the family members in attendance and the phone then locked up and forensic experts were unable to get inside the specially encrypted areas of the phone. Until, they get the court order saying open the drives and the phone. They don't ask for the password. They put him in a room and say - unlock them. He unlocks the three layers of decryption on the iPhone 6, confiscated over three months earlier and they find the videos and pics of the nieces, but he says he can't remember the passwords to the hard drives.
They file the contempt motion. At the hearing, he offers no evidence in his defense of not being able to remember and doesn't even show up in court to say "I can't remember", so they find for the state.
In fact, Doe had multiple layers of password protection on his devices, and he always entered his passcodes for all of his devices from memory. Doe never had any trouble remembering his passcodes (other than when compelled to do so by the federal court), never hesitated when entering the passcodes, and never failed to gain entry on his first attempt.
Pages 10-21
http://arstechnica.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/govporn.pdf
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copied from a discussion involving people who actually do research
>>55161214
>>55161197
The guy in this case is the same as every single other privacyfag on /g/. If anyone on /g/ is accused of storing CP on their computers, I already know you're guilty.
There really should be a landmark case for this
having an encrypted drive is not a valid reasonable clause to search
being forced to enter your password is against your 5th amendment rights
being forced to reveal your information is against the 4th.
>>55157796
How so?
They are just allowed to see if it Boots up.
>>55161178
Suing government agencies typically doesn't end well unless you're extremely rich or a public figure. Property seizure by police and government agencies is a massive problem in the US and has skyrocketed in the last 30 years.
>>55161259
>government agencies
an unconstitutional one at that
Do they ever check non-Muslims?
>>55161178
You don't have constitutional protection at a port of entry. You can't claim protection from the government when entering the country because it's the government's job to stretch your anus there.
>>55161292
>You don't have constitutional protection at a port of entry
port of entry to what? I'm just traveling between places in the US and the TSA are fucking up things between interstate travel.
I'm not even entering the country, I'm going from say JFK IAP to Orlando or Chicago
>>55161251
decriminalize CP and fire half the FBI, problem solved, can throw the guy in that case in jail since he went further than porn though
>>55161081
can I ask what are those files that aren't harmless?
>>55161197
>>55161214
I wasn't aware that there were updates on the case that provided this information. I was just going by what I read back when the story first broke.
:S
>>55161308
Apparently the shills here on /g/ think you're a hacker if you don't have windows 10 or you have encryption or just a password
>>55161305
They can't take your laptop for refusing to provide the password there. They can at customs.
>>55161356
>customs between states
>>55160140
(You)
>>55161370
>he's never been out of the States
>>55161325
You can literally have the police called on you in the USA if you are seen in a public space using a text based OS because "normal" people use a mouse only.
FYI it's illegal to deny entry into the US to a US citizen.
If you refused to give up the key for your laptop, you'd just probably lose your laptop.
>>55161405
you can call the police on anyone for any reason doesn't mean I'm committing a crime
>>55161416
[CITATION NEEDED]
>>55161214
>he says he can't remember the passwords to the hard drives
>he will be held indefinitely until he unlocks the hard drive
That's amazing.
>>55161422
Have you ever dealt with the police in the USA? I have had police stop me countless times because I am walking and people sperg out when they see people walking on the street they live in because they feel like its THEIR street and no one should be there but them.
>travel through customs
>act super suspicious, clutching my greasy thinkpad
>border agents ask to inspect my laptop
>its encrypted
>they ask me for the password
>"no"
>threaten me with everything under the sun, with missing my plane, etc.
>tell them there's nothing on it
>keep saying that i "plead the 5th" and that i want my lawyer.
>its now nearly 5 hours later
>agents are getting refaced, telling me this is my last chance
>"ok ill open it"
>decrypt laptop
>there's nothing on it
>it's just a stock gentoo install
>agents rummage through it for another 3 hours
>there's absolutely nothing, it's just a stock install
>they berate me and tell me i missed 2pm flight
>"yes its 2pm, but for tomorrow".
Do I look like a mudslime to you? Fuck off.
>>55161478
i want to try this
>Have unencrypted windows 7 partition and encrypted whatever OS you actually use
>Have it set to boot into windows by default
>Store some word documents, pictures, and albums on partition to make it look legitimate if they take a deeper look
>60 year old TSA agent tells you you're all good.
>Go on with day without being detained for being a sperg
In an ideal world you would be able to simply explain that you have no obligation to decrypt your laptop but the combinations of people not caring about rights to privacy and normies being technologically retarded make that unrealistic.
>>55161431
https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/home.pdf
>>55161466
like I said, call the police on anyone for any reason, doesn't mean you're committing a crime
>>55161495
>injecting your love of niggercock into everything, even places where it's irrelevant
hello, you appear to be lost
>>>/pol/
>>55161325
ironic senpai, most are prob logged into tumblr or reddit over https
>>55161503
Yeah, the problem is when the police are called, there are so many laws that they can literally arrest you for anything they want. Got no money on you because you're out for a jog? Vagrancy. Protest you're being stopped? Disturbing the piece/ They can literally arrest you for no god damn reason.
>>55161478
good job, now you're on the no fly list
>>55161503
>>55161422
Being the object of an investigation is a penalty per se, you dumbfuck. You don't want to look like a social autist with communist or terror tendencies in the face of the police.
>>55161501
thanks senpai
>>55157963
>Computer on
>Grub asks if i want to change OS from cli or just boot to windows.
>Officer let windows start
>Please sir, insert your password
>Sure thing officer
>Botnet no°10
>A bunch of wallpapers
>Superhot
>Blender
>A folder called porn with some games inside
> Nothing else really.
>Thanks sir bye.
>>55157766
This.
>>55161538
That doesn't mean you're committing a crime, its retards being retarded.
>>55161478
can someone explain if this is legal?
>>55157736
>having something to hide
>walk to an airport with a suspicious encrypted laptop
>>55161561
No worries, I take pride in not spewing unfounded garbage.
Also my friend works for border patrol, but I figured you'd like some actual hard evidence.
Is there any way to set up a dummy login, for instance an "under duress" password you can input that logs in but to a benign and locked down environment instead of the standard login procedure?
I always wanted to set it up so that my computer boots up to a lame ass stock windows 7 with no docs or files, unless I hold down the ~ key while it boots up, which will access all my normal computing files
obviously it wouldn't fool proper data recovery methods but it would be enough to keep the tsa and the general public from accessing your shit
>>55161577
theres nothing illegal about it
>>55161599
>Wasting customs time isn't illegal
>>55161577
jesus christ, it doesnt matter if it is legal or not. you cant protest the legality of a search or action by the state or its agents during said search or action by the state. your only recourse is after it happened, if you have a recourse at all. that goes for any country on earth.
>>55161594
Just set grub to auto-boot windows. Then if you hold shift while the computer starts it will take you to the grub selection menu.
>>55161594
or make two user accounts, auto login to the lame one, password on the other one
>>55161573
>That doesn't mean you're committing a crime
nobody ever suggested that. Not having Windows installed is obviously not a crime (for now).
>I want to enter another country
>but I want to do it on MY terms
traveling is a privilege, not a right.
>>55161606
its not
>>55157736
1) if they are asking for your encrypted partition passphrase, you fucked up.
2) each 200 person flight would have on average about 100 laptops on board. They're not going to check the data contents of every single one so if they picked you out, you fucked up.
>>55161632
It won't ever be. Given how fast OSes change (10 years ago, android didn't exist), no government is going to waste resources on regulating OSes.
>>55161678
Yes the government will never waste time and resources on outdated things.
>>55161606
>Customs wasting your time isn't illegal
>>55161694
I'd be the first one to talk about government waste, I work for the DoD. That said, there usually is an impetus for a law or agency to be created. I'm having a hard time imagining a scenario where the government would want to regulate OSes.
>>55161678
More than 20 years ago the US threatened Zimmermann for its PGP code.
The Land of the Free 15 years ago decided to shit on Civil Rights.
Apple has been threatened to offer a police backdoor not so many months ago.
Any major US manufacturer and OS vendor has been involved with PRISM.
Exporting crypto is still considered the same as exporting weapons.
Don't make bold assumptions.
>>55161720
It's not
>>55161734
I don't expect it to happen either, but it's not very unlikely. Don't forget that you named Android as an example, while Android is a mobile OS and mobile devices are something new.
Don't expect in 10 years our phones run something different than Android/iOS.
Windows too has been dominating the desktop market for over 20 years now.
If I want to smuggle any illegal data to/from US there are over 9000 methods to do this without even visiting US. I am just curious what is logic behind such actions as device invigilation?
>>55157736
>sorry i forgot it
>really
>after 24h of enhanced interrogation
>oh i remember now
>the encryption keys was stored in ram and there was a reboot timer so..
>>55157936
>switched seven countries and video still isn't watchable
The fuck is this shit
>skimming through the thread reading all the bullshit americans have to deal with
>>55157963
Why didn't you just make a script that, when you enter a certain phrase like "ohshitnigger", it formats the disc. Seems much cleaner than the whole "enter PW 5 times in a row" mess, and causes less suspicion.
>>55161755
It should be
>>55160990
Got a idea for this too.
Use two drives, so while the one with the incriminating evidence is getting wiped, the OS switches to the other drive, a less incriminating one. la di da, he checks his shit, and boom, scott-free with a backup of all your data on a third external you were smart enough to backup, and can remotely get through use of your own private server
>>55157766
>>"
>>55161642
do you seriously believe that the country you were born in is your eternal prison? That it's a privilege to leave?
>>55157736
>give passphrase and keyfiles for surface level
>>55160140
You used encryption by posting here.
>>55162007
No but I do believe in the souvereignity of nations and that you deciding to travel to another country also means you accept border checks and other requirements to enter that country.
Only Germans believe countries should just open up all borders and let go of any border checks.
It's against the law here to ask for an encryption key. gg americucks
>install your preferred distribution
>default win 7 wallpaper
>winrar
>>55162096
What country would that be? Certainly not an EU country.
>>55157736
Irrelevant. I'd have it shipped via FedEx or UPS to my destination, not bring it as carry-on, because I don't want to hassle with this shit.
>>55161674
>what are random searches
>>55162220
Those are only done on nonwhites.
>>55161990
Well...
>Have cheap laptop for travel purposes only
>Clean as newborn baby
>HDD instead of SSD
>Backup whole drive image before travel
>buy pendrive in country you travel to, install any OS on it
>tip: if you have friend's laptop or other computer in destination country you can use to prepare pendrive in fully clean way.
>disconnect HD, boot from pendrive
>ssh or something encrypted to your home-placed private server, use browser as wish, etc
>access private data as you want
>destroy pendrive, connect back HD
>leave country
>no traces on laptop left
>restore drive from backup
Just FYI: Windows keeps in track all USB devices that was connected when Windows was booted.
>>55162096
THEY DONT DO IT AT AIRPORTS IN THE USA EITHER YOU FUCKING IDIOT
>>55162220
It is so easy to spot people who have never set foot in an airport.
>>55160140
>not valuing privacy for personal topics
>any year
>>>/reddit/
>>>/facebook/
>>55160907
>You only have something to hide if you're a terrorist or pedo.
That's what unemployed people believe.
>>55160907
>having porn on your computer
>any year
>>55162259
>It is so easy to spot people who have never set foot in an airport.
then how did they arrive in the usa?
>>55157736
>flying
>ever
>>55162186
>I'll mail it
>because mail doesn't go through customs all the same
They never ask you to turn on your laptop unless you are on a list.
>>55162522
You have to at the minimum turn it on and show that it powers, so they know you didn't gut it and put explosives in it.
>>55157736
Haha, whenever I travel I purposefully break grub so that it automatically enters rescue mode. For me it's 4 simple commands. Your average security guard won't understand how to work that shit and probably won't hold up the rest of the line to try. They might even think they broke it, and will likely hand it back to you so they don't get blamed. If they really want to see what's in my machine they'll have to take it to their IT people or whatever and by that time I'll have been able to contact a lawyer. I'll make a huge fuss and then decrypt it anyway. Then I'll sue them for harassment because I obviously did nothing wrong. I win either way.
>>55162603
>showing them your autism
good idea, famalam
>linux encrypted and installed on 'hidden' msata drive
>normie install of wangblows on hard drive in normal drive bay
>linux bootloader installed on removable sd card
>>55158084
nice b8
>>55162578
>so they know you didn't gut it and put explosives in it.
isn't that what the xray scanners are for?
I haven't had to go through a airport in a few years
>>55162751
yeah ive often wondered how that is kinda stupid because if someone really really wanted to they could get a thick ass laptop like a inspiron 1100, put a rpi in it with a one 2500mah cell and have all that fucking space left.
>>55162578
>>55162751
Why are bottles of water banned?
>>55160929
U mad Pajeet?
>>55161610
Unreasonably dragging your feet during a search is not illegal. If enough people did this, it would be irrational for them to conduct these searches on a widescale. The same could be said for people encrypting their data and communications.
>>55162869
In 2006 someone was sperguing out about water bottles and toothpaste tubes, so TSA said no more water bottles or tubes of a certain size in carry ons.
But its totally ok if you put it in your checked luggage.
>>55162869
>explosives that look and smell like water
>>55162889
It was in response to both the underwear and shoe bomber. The fear is that a liquid explosive is hidden in their carry-on.
Its not enforced very well. I regularly travel with large bottles of liquid in my carry-on. The monkeys behind the xray machines are half retarded.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/investigation-breaches-us-airports-allowed-weapons-through-n367851
>>55162964
uh.., no it wasnt. it was in 2006, the underwear bomber was much later. I remember because I had a flight a week before that shitstorm happened.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/11/world/europe/11rules.html?_r=0
>>55162973
>the new restrictions are part of a temporary security enhancement
>temporary
Why do we let them get away with this shit?
>>55161563
this seems like the best solution, unless of course you encounter a linuxfag
>>55162578
This seems like it could easily be worked around by getting a big ass workstation and filling the expansion slots with explosives.
You are not free. And declining a search isn't feasible today where your freedom is fewer and fewer. Can you trust a bureaucratic agency to respect your wishes?
They must then beg the question, "Well. What does he have to hide?"
It's a nightmare. It isn't a just Government. This is why it's so important to encrypt your data, and setup a 'ghost password' like what veracrypt offers.
You must assume this to be extortion, and no less. Just as when you are stopped, one wrong move for the glove department could end your life, and legally I may add.
This thread had actually made me consider buying a new hard drive and installing something ordinary like Windows 10 on it just for when I travel.
Because yeah I have nothing illegal on my computer, but it would be very inconvenient if some tsa prick randomly decided to confiscate my laptop with all of my college data. I was already held in an airport security office for an hour once because they thought I looked nervous. Yeah no shit I look nervous when I'm a social autist having to talk to an agent questioning everything I say.
In that regard, I should get a second phone as well.
>>55163271
>veracrypt shilling
Fuck off, NSA. We all know your fork is compromised.
>>55157766
STOP RESISTING.
>>55161159
>having a linux machine is not reasonable suspicion to be on some terror watchlist
https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/nsa-linux-journal-extremist-forum-and-its-readers-get-flagged-extra-surveillance
>>55163555
This probably applies to everyone using 4chan as well.
>>55161058
>securely wipe your drive
what's the best way to do this? does it differ for HDD vs SSD?
>Had to go through customs
>Saw a guy like right next to me pull out his laptop and they were searching through it
>Sweating balls even though I didn't have anything risky on my external, which was in my carry-on luggage
>Get asked "Sir, did you bring a laptop computer or tablet with you?"
>"N-no, I didn't"
>Different guy who was going through my luggage afterward stopped about halfway through and didn't see my external
I hoard my 4chan images and Laos cartoon illustrations so it would have taken a damn year going through it.
>>55163681
HDD:
DBAN
SSD:
Lol, you're fucked.
>>55162234
It's done to whiteys too, but only if you've visited/traveled through SEA
>>55157736
Certainly officer. Passphrase is password1 and login password is password2
If you want, you can give me a rectal exam also. I totally don't mind.
>>55163767
To look for cheese pizza? Whiteys only go to SEA to engage in coitus with underage prostitutes, right?
i've flown over 300 times since 2013 and I have never been asked to enter an encryption password by security screening personnel (mostly TSA) or customs, ever
>>55161939
This. It's not that hard to do either.
>>55163763
You're a moron. Dban takes hours to do. Ssd can be securely wiped in under 10 seconds with ATA Secure Erase.
>>55162964
>>55163038
Shoe bomber was just after 9/11.
UK plots for liquid bombs (retarded) occurred in 2006).
Underwear bomber was in 2011 and caused the TSA push for AIT scanners over walk through metal detectors.
AIT is annoying but has the ostensible purpose of screening non-metallic threat items, but the liquid shit is beyond dumb.
>>55163892
Relax. The liquid ban is only temporary.
Any notion of security anywhere is a farce. Every test of airport security has shown that its remarkably porous. The only purpose of such security checks is to make the sheep feel more secure. Moreover, the entire terrorism issue is about making people feel more secure. The politics of terrorism are what drives all of these absurd programs. Terrorism isn't a threat to the public, its a threat to state security, that is, the politicians and leaders in power.
>>55163999
The liquid ban has existed for ten fucking years with no sign of abating. I'd bet $100 on winning the mega millions before I bet on the liquid ban ending within the next twelve months.
>>55164020
Its only temporary. Its for your safety. Don't you want to feel S A F E? What are you, a terrorist?
On a serious note, the Patriot Act was temporary as well, expiring after 4 years. It was supposed to be an extreme temporary measure to fight terrorism. Its been extended every 5 years without much debate and its measures are used against ordinary criminals much more often than "terrorist." In fact, there are so few terrorists to fight in the US, the FBI has to entrap at-risk teenagers into terrorism to boost their conviction numbers.
>>55157736
Why would you keep any sensitive content on the main computer itself rather than an encrypted USB drive in your main luggage?
>>55161829
Retarded politicians. Imagine that.
None of you faggots have yet explained why you've encrypted your hard drive in the first place.
>inb4 sensitive information
Lolicon = animated cp
60gb of nudes off 4chung
The police could not care less about your classified work documents so you wouldn't have a reason to hide them, and if you were developing some new hi-tech not-yet-patented dildo, you would have hidden it on a USB stick and stuck it up your anal cavity like a normal person
>>55164099
>rather than an encrypted USB drive in your main luggage?
you mean your butthole, right?
>>55164640
I just don't want my family to look at my japanese cartoon porn when I finally kill myself, it's the only thing I throw into the encrypted volume.
>>55164640
I don't think you understand buddy, it's not just actual lolicon that's considered CP, most sad panda doujins are probably technically CP.
>they download porn
>>55164640
I do it because I want to.
>>55164824
I'm into some stuff that's kind of hard to find streaming like full-length ultimate surrender videos, but yeah I would never download anything even remotely questionable to my computer.
>>55164640
I draw porn for a living.
If I die, i want to make it as hard as possible for my family to find it.
>>55164847
>i do it because i want to
Pic related
>>55164898
How do you make money off it? Do you draw comics, or do requests for people?
>>55157977
I forgot what it's called, but there's encryption that can be decrypted two ways. So enter my normal password, get my normal stuff, enter an "under duress" one, get a vanilla distro.
>>55164935
I make porn games.
Why else would i be on /g/?
>>55161257
>They are just allowed to see if it Boots up.
if it doesn't POST, can i get a free diagnosis + antivirus
>>55161113
Then you don't even need to encrypt because it'll break once they turn it on anyway.
>tfw get computer searched when going through customs
nerve-wracking shit, even when you know you don't have anything bad on your machine. avoid getting put on lists, kids.
>>55163459
>Fork compromised
Wait, what?
>>55157736
Partition the drive and leave windows that comes with the laptop alone. Encrypt the other partition as /home and boot Linux off OS a 256GB USB 3.0 drive that you keep in your pocket. When they log into Windows, nothing to be found.
I always install this before I plan on crossing a boarder:
http://sam.zoy.org/lmos/
>>55163681
just write it with all zeros on linux it would be
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=4M
Can you create a partitioned drive that opens specific partitions depending on the password you enter? Then you could have a totally clean partition to show them in case this happens.
>use a t500 libreboot machine with the upgraded screen that doesn't work until after grub
>install bullshit distro on hdd
>real distro on sd card inside machine
>hdd automatically loads
>no visual option to boot from sd card
bamp
>>55165137
"Why does this laptop look like its never been used?"
>>55165244
That's why you install Chrome, put in some random documents, some MP3 files of Drake or any pop artist in music and install Steam. They will be convinced
>>55165244
You can always add some random pics and go to a few web sites to show some history. Also you can say, just got it for this trip.
>>55162087
>souvereignity
kys, pic related
>>55164864
Ultimate surrender is hot as fuck
How about this? Keep your bootloader on a USB, etc. Rest of your partitions on your HDD, encrypted. Have it boot to USB by default, but if no USB will just complain that no bootloader. Don't plug usb. Decrypt/mount your partitions only in privacy. "Sorry, it has been acting up. I need to get it looked at"
>>55165415
good taste
>>55165433
If privacy is really your concern, a decoy OS is much safer.
>>55161928
no we don't, this doesn't happen
next time your parents fly you out /g/, bring a laptop
this does not happen.
/thread
>>55160990
>>now writing a bunch of fucking zeros to the drive, please wait 3 hours while the HDD activity LED goes solid
You only need to wipe LUKS headers (512 bytes IIRC) to make an encrypted drive's contents completely useless forever unless you had the headers backed up somewhere.
>>55165433
> "Sorry, it has been acting up. I need to get it looked at"
In reality your average 4channer would probably be sweating bullets and shaking while stammering like a jackhammer, at which point they take you to a back room and start doing forensics.
>>55163467
>>55157789
>I plead the 5th
>>55165534
>5th amendment doesn't apply at border
>supreme court allows for border checks hundreds of miles within border
Lets be honest. This will never be a problem for the majority of you linux retards considering you think leaving the house for groceries is hard because of the social interaction you have to do.
>>55160400
What the shit are you guys talking about, I travel internationally regularly, and I've never been asked to unlock my laptop. Ever.
>>55165571
they need a judge to make you comply if encrypted
>>55162007
>It's a privilege to leave
Absolutely. It's both a privilege to leave and a privilege to enter a different country. You have no "human right" or other international law bullshit to see granted access to country X nor to be allowed to leave homeland Y
>>55165654
>they need a judge
No, you'd be rejected at the border if you're a foreigner and *you* will wait for a judge if you're not a foreigner
>>55165571
Also: constitutional rights do not apply at all to foreigners. A foreigner cannot "plead the 5th"
>>55165678
Constitutional rights apply to everyone in the country. You're completely wrong.
>>55165699
So, a foreigner can vote because it happens to be in your country? No, **YOU** are completely wrong. Some rights apply to citizens only.
>>55157963
drive is cloned so they have infinite backups, your plan is foiled.
okay rate my plan anons
>buy laptop with both SSD and HDD
>install OS on SSD, put inconspicuous things on it
>fill HDD with random data
>encrypt HDD in plain mode so no LUKS header goes on the device
>memorize the parameters and commands to mount it, type them in manually instead of automounting
>turn off bash history for root so that they don't show up there
>when asked by TSA monkey to log in, do so on normal no-private-stuff OS
>don't mount HDD
>if they ask about it just say "yeah, there's supposed to be another drive, but I was never able to get it to work. I never bothered to fix it cause I realized I didn't need the space that much anyway", or some such excuse
>>55165730
so if you have an encrypted file with a 200 character password and they clone it who gives a shit?
>>55165723
The limitations on voting are clearly delineated in the Constitution. The entire Constitution applies to aliens. The only dispute is to what extent the Constitution applies to Americans abroad.
>>55158552
I had a chuckle
>>55157736
This is not a problem in the Schengen area. One can literally travel with CP and ISIS plots and be never asked to turn on the laptop. Also, no customs can take your devices and copy them - contrary to what both US and Canada do.
Provided that you're an European citizen, sure.
>>55165481
Why?
ITT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCozh_vbYdM
>>55165750
>hey make get the screw driver
>>55165511
Maybe so. Idk. I've never had any issues like this and I'm frequently searched because of all my antennae, cords, etc
>>55165780
Any sort of "idk the password" scheme is just going to rouse suspicion. Better to pretend to be a normie and breeze through.
>>55160140
> I was only le pretending.
>leaving your house
>leaving your country
>living in a 3rd world shithole
what is the point of this thread again?
>>55160141
KEK
