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Is there any advantage for those size factored cases?

I'm planning on building my PC soon, but anyone I know who built one seem to prefer full tower.
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>>>/v/
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Full tower is best, but only if you get this one.
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>>55157573
Nah, planned on getting this one m8
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>>55157413
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>>55157413
My big problem with big towers is that most of them don't support SSI EEB.
It may physically fit inside the case but you have to drill new holes.
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>>55157413
go mini
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>>55157413
Get an atx mid tower.
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>>55157413
no none, never go with sli/crossfire, and get a fucking nas if you need more storage space than one 2.5" ssd and one 3.5" hdd

unfortunately most case designers still have no balls and work around the assumption that most pc builders are spergs that don't know how to install an os from usb, so you're stuck with wasted space for 5.25s or slimline opticals
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full tower is easiest to work in
but you work with it once in few years
and having huge monstrosity sitting somewhere in your room is really unappealing to me

U have mid tower atx, but I hate it, its too big and I make no use of that space

small and powerful is beautiful
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>>55158192
What are the specs on that
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>>55157573
>>55157718
>>55157987
>>55157995
>>55158071
>>55158136
>>55158192
>>55158256

Polite reminder to please contain all gaming-related discussions to >>>/v/. Thank you.
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go small
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>>55158296
I can put another pull fan in the front of the heatsink. Lookin qt. though
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>>55158275
>complaining about the lack of ssi-eeb support
>Server System Infrastructure Enterprise Electronics Bay
>gaming-related discussion
wat
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Is the Cooler Master Elite 110 the perfect server case for a mITX with no GPU, 3 3.5" drives and 1 2.5" SSD, and an 180mm ATX PSU?
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>>55158388
go for node 304
the airflow in CM stuff is bad because they put power supply at the back
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>>55158418
But it's bigger...

Might as well get the Elite 130 then.
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>>55158275
reddit
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>>55157573
It actually looks better in red but still shit.
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>>55158388
Correction, I have a 130mm SFX PSU.
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>>55158275
Polite reminder to hang yourself from a very tall tree
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Does anyone here have an Ncase?
The dancase kickstarter is about to end and I'm looking at it, and wondering if it's worth it over the ncase. The ncase seems like a better deal at $240 CDN, and only slightly larger and comes with filters and fangrills. The dancase is $366 cdn and 1.5 inches shorter and 1.8 inches thinner. That and no room for fans. Is the lack of fans a huge deal for higher-end stuff? I don't have much experience with mini itx systems.
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>>55160432
I have an NCase. What exactly are you looking to do with it, or put in the case? The NCase can handle a LOT more than the DanCase, in terms of fittings extra hardware. (IE watercooling, 3.5" drives, CD/DVD drives...)
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More so just curious as to what the temperature difference is between a mini itx case with active cooling and one where it's only well ventilated. What temps are you getting now with the Ncase?
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>>55157413
god fucking damn gaymer shit looks horrifying
though a windowless version of the far right wouldn't trigger me as much
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>>55158275
>Motherboards
>Advantages and inconvenience of different sizes
>hurr >>>/v/
>*tips GTX 1080 founder's edition
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>tfw put microatx board in atx case

when the psu is in it will look less empty, but what do i do with that giant open space on the bottom right?
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>>55161205
also, what makes a good internal, padding material for cases? ive seen people use automotive soundproofing foam before but ive also seen people just use faux felt sheeting from craft stores

any suggestions? i just want to cover up the galvanized steel, temps will not be an issue
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>>55161205
Who cares? The part of the computer you're supposed to be looking at is the monitor.
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>>55161239
you know what, yeah, this is a good point
fuck it, ill put a small fan in it or something to keep a good airflow
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Is the Corsair 350D good?
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PHANTEKS EVOLV ITX
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>>55161205
The case seems to be old and probably nothing special, might as well buy a new small case
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>>55160566
That is really fucking retarded. Why buy a small case just to put half the shit outside of it?
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>>55161327
i like my thinkcenter though
it matches all my other old pre-lenovo IBM shit
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buy the smallest full-ATX tower you can. 90% of the time for m-atx and itx motherboards, they're more expensive than their full ATX counterparts simply because of their size. They're literally charging you MORE money for less ports. I have the Fractal R5 (no window). Full ATX and E-ATX if you really want. 10 hard drive mounts while still being able to handle graphics cards of ridiculous lengths.(I had a 13" Sapphire Fury in mine without having to remove, alter, or in any way mod the HDD racks.)

I personally believe Matx to be worthless. Mitx is great if you MUST have a tiny PC and are willing to pay the "more money because smaller" tax.

I think the Corsair 100r is a full ATX case that is relatively small. As is the Fractal Core 1100. Both smaller cases that allow full height coolers (up to 160mm, i.e. Hyper 212 EVO is 159mm and the Noctua NH-D15 is around the same).
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>>55161357
you're not playing stupid are you? The radiator is removed so as to show the insides. Notice how the radiator isn't hooked up to anything? Quick-disconnect fittings on the rad and the components for easy maintenance. The only thing that is "outside" the case is the pump/reservoir hanging on the rear fan mount.
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>>55161420
I wanted an mITX system for my last build. Nearly 7 years later and every day since then I wish I had done it, but I was talked out of it because it was my first build and guys like you kept telling me no.

Screw that mindset of 'only if you don't have space', sometimes you just want a small build. I'm doing mITX this time around.
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>>55161500
then have a blast. Just keep what I said in mind when you're buying your 4th Mitx Case because "this is the one that'll do it all!!" because your last one didn't have enough GPU clearance. Or Very limited on CPU coolers. Or ridiculous no airflow and everything idles at 55C. Or not enough HDD/SSD mounts.

I'm not knocking Mitx in general, because I own 2 builds that are itx. A dedicated encoding server with an athlon 5350 quad core, and a pentoum G3260 sitting in an H97 motherboard. But they're both very low heat, low noise, lower power so the small footprint befits them.

But people who jam monster 250w tdp cards and an insanely Overclocked CPU into a tiny case are usually settling for something at one point or another.
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I just built in a Nano S and love it. Don't understand why everyone makes a huge computer when they use one graffix card and ssd's
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>>55161623
I just saw the Nano S last night. I have a Define R4 and always thought, "Man, if only they made this in mITX form"... then they did it! I can't wait.
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>>55161623
>>55161649

But Nano S is huge for mitx. I mean I have Cooltek W2 ATX sized case and it is almost the same size as Nano S.

I'm actually just switching components too and can't decide between mitx and matx. On the other hand I want a soundcard and on the other mitx can be so sexy small.

Raijintek Metis and Styx look great. Cougar QBX is also a budget version of Ncase.
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>>55161500

Listen, if you don't plan on moving around your pc every other day then mitx is really just a waste of cash. You can get a Fractal Define S for 70$, mount the hdd/ssd at the back and you have all the fucking room you'll ever need inside, good airflow and even a bit of sound dampening on the sides to keep things quiet.

Mitx looks great but I just don't see the point unless somebody has disposal income and/or move around a lot and need to have a high power pc always at hand.
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>>55160432
I have one of the first run NCases. I wouldn't suggest a Dancase if it's your first ITX build. Working with an NCase is already more work than what most people are used to.

In general, for new system builders, I don't suggest ITX because it does take a lot more research in making sure things fit well. Cabling is also an issue if you are not prepared to re-terminate your cable or get custom shit.

Overall it is generally more expensive as well.

You could get a larger, easier to work with ITX case, but then what's the point? Might as well get mATX. Way more compatibility options and they can be pretty fucking small compared to the mid/full tower behemoths.

Never, ever go full tower. It's fucking dumb.
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>>55158275
Polite reminder to contain your autism
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>>55160432
Ncase is an overpriced meme case and the Dan is even worse.

Get an SG13 or Cougar QBX
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>>55161357
It all fits inside the case with the exception of the reservoir. Which doesn't really impose on the foot print at all because the space is taken up by cables anyways. Quit being retarded.

>>55161445
He's either trolling or just an idiot lol. The only part outside is the reservoir, not even the pump.
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>>55157413
If it's your first build, you will probably want to go with Micro ATX.

Mini ITX is god tier, but it's very small so can be hard to build in for a beginner.

Full ATX is expensive and big, easy to build in, but you waste money and space.

Micro ATX is perfect for a beginner because it's the cheapest and big enough to move around in without wasting too much space.
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>>55162201
Wouldn't mITX have some cooling issues with everything crammed together?
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Not if you know what you're doing, or ask for help with optimal air flow. My NCase gets good temperatures (this build >>55162121)

My previous build (pic related) ran relatively cool. It had an i5-4590S, cooled on a Noctua NH-L9i, and a GTX 670. For cooling it had a 120mm intake, 92mm exhaust, and a low profile 92mm CPU cooler. During games, the CPU never got over 55C and the GPU never went over 65C.
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>>55162385
For cooling, do you want pos, neutral or neg pressure? I've heard neg is better for cooling, but fucks with dust cramming.
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>>55162314
Only if you build it wrong or use very high heat components.

Go for Nvidia and Intel with Mini ITX for low heat and make sure your case is well reviewed for good cooling.
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>>55162416
Negative air pressure results in more dust, or so they say. in that 901 build I think it netter about neutral air pressure, or slightly negative. The 120mm fan on the PSU drew air from the case, the blower on the GPU, and the 92mm all exhaust air. But they were all also slightly obscured in airflow, so I believe it netted neutral. In my NCase, I had positive air pressure when using air cooling, and the CPU and GPU were fine. With the current configuration in the NCase though, I see a good 5C difference in negative air pressure.But that's only because if I do positive air pressure, it blows all the hot air from the radiator back onto the motherboard with no exhaust other than passive from the case.
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>>55161361
Then why do you care about empty space? There shouldn't be a window in it, right?
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>>55162448
>nividia
>low heat
does not compute
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>>55162500
Specifically the nvidia 9 and 10 series blows away any of amd's offerings in heat (power) efficiency.
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>>55162448
Some NVidia cars will run warm, but in SFF builds blower style coolers will help keep the rest of the system temperatures down. For example, with my NCase on air, the 980 would reach around 81C at most. But the CPU never went over 55C.
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>>55157413
>>55161920
Guize: good I found this thread.
I have the mATX cooltek coolcube maxi and I realized the airflow is pretty shitty. Good thing I only have an i5 and a gtx 960.
Anyway: I made a thread about it but it didn't get many replies. So basically the cpu stock cooler and the psu unit are facing each other but since they're both sucking in air I was wondering which way my 2 80mm rear case fans should point- should they suck in fresh air or blow out the hot air? I've been getting pretty shitty temps ( around 65 while gaymen) with them pushing out hot air. Which way is best?
>Also should I go full autism and actually buy an aftermarket cooler for dat dere silence?
I could get a good offer for the NH-U9B but it's officially .5cm too high, meaning it would collide with the PSU. Couldn't I break off the plastic casing in front of the PSU-fans for extra space?
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>>55158192
So what are the specs on that
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>>55162571
That was from the kickstarter video, I believe. They didn't say specs.

But, theoretically, there's no reason why you couldn't do something like an i7-6700K, 2x8GB DDR4, (up to 3x 2.5" drives, and if your motherboard supports M.2 that's a fourth), an a GTX 1080. Something like the Corsair SF600 would actually clear up space in the case quite a bit, too.
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>>55162538
>>55162546
pls respond
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>>55158192
What case is this? Reverse image search turned up fruitless
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>>55163789
DAN A4
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>>55162546
Get a new case. Don't waste money trying to salvage a piece of shit.
SilverStone and Fractal cases are safe because they understand airflow.
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>>55162385
Is the cooling on those tiny cases terrible?

They don't seem to have much ventilation, and the small amount of space looks like it will heat up fast.
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>>55163967
Not if you do it right, which most builders are not willing to put the time/effort/resources to do.
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>>55163931
I noticed that they don't usually have much ventilation on any side. How is it possible that they remain cool?
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>>55163931
well it's not that bad actually. temps are kinda ok for the stock cooler.
Although I do regret not getting the Raijintek Styx in black. Damn it looks slick
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>>55164136
By not building your PC like an idiot.

Manage your cables.

You don't need 209384523523 case fans.
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Please help /g/,


Currently have a Fractal Define R3 and it's way too fuckhuge. I don't use optical drive and only have 1 HDD and 1 SSD and only a single GPU. Can you recommend a smaller ATX case without all the extra space??
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This is what you need.

No meme price like ncase for 200, instead under 100. Provides all you need for gaming and full size cards, also portable.
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>>55164160
But wouldn't they still be hotter than a case with tons of ventilation like pic related?

Not a fan of the autism gaming cases, but I will admit ventilation is something they have going for them.
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>>55164164
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112331&cm_re=lian_li-_-11-112-331-_-Product

Slightly more than two inches shorter. Otherwise the same.

That's all I know of off the top of my head. Full-sized ATX cases really don't get very small.

If you only have a single GPU I don't see why you wouldn't go mATX, unless you have a mobo you like and are planning to keep for a while.

I don't think it'd be worth all the money/trouble to try to find something minutely smaller than the R3.
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>>55162538
Can you recommend the RVZ01 or is there a better full size card option.

The rx 480 might end up my option anyway though and that could be around 8 inches.
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>>55164234
In general, no. Given the same type and number of fans it could be the same.

Simply having vents doesn't really do a whole lot after a certain point. An extra vent with nothing actively pushing/pulling air through it won't do anything.

Think of it this way:
Pretend your system's fans have a capacity of 100 cfm and your ITX system gets reasonably close to this number, real world. If you put these exact fans in an an xbox hueg full tower and you're still getting close to 100 cfm, your total cooling capacity will be identical.
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>>55164236
Hmmm, alright. My system is getting a little old but still works fine so I guess I'll be content with my current case until I can upgrade to an mATX mobo. Related question: Would that also entail having to buy a new processor? Currently running an OC i5 2500k and it does everything I need it to -- do they even make Socket 1155 mobos anymore?
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