OP Template? Edition
Shitty Plebian Rack Edition
Reccomendations on a FOSS Hypervisor solution? I've heard proxmox is ok, but I've also heard it's shit.
>inb4 wangblows server
ITT autistic weeaboo hoarders
>>55145831
all my storage is on my desktop
I wish I had $10k to drop on a backblaze unit
>>55145816
and what are you using this setup for?
>>55145816
Use vSphere, freetard.
>>55145816
>Reccomendations on a FOSS Hypervisor solution?
Stop hipstering and just use ESXi or Hyper-V
>>55145816
Proxmox is good.
The only down side is that you'll basically be on debian testing for proxmox's package side of things.
Debian's packages will be on stable.
It good and infact my work place is replacing ESXi with Proxmox.
Proxmox just takes like 2 minutes longer to set up as you need to switch the packages over to the non subscription branch and its a good idea to install openvswitch.
>>55147930
What features does Proxmox have that free ESXi does not?
>>55147957
The fact that if you want to move VMs around, regardless if you pay for ESXi, is that the host on ESXi can't do much.
Also, ESXi charges a shit load more than proxmox if you want to pay for it.
Another thing to consider is that Proxmox clustering is much nicer than ESXi's and provides a nicer UI to ESXi.
Pretty sure that ESXi free also limits you to certain resources where as Proxmox doesn't but just gives you slightly not yet stable release packages.
Runs proxmox and used to do a lot and now it really doesnt do anything aside from being my backup server. I may upgrade it later and try to think of more projects but atm its just really stupid small things. Im up for suggestions on what would be cool projects though
Every time I see these threads it makes me simile seeing plebs with pretty much empty tracks containing mostly switches. Waste of space, waste of electricity.
>>55148046
nice opinion, really good to see a faggot just being a faggot with no hobby, who likes to shit post and dish out crap at others' hobbies.
Kill yourself.
>>55148046
where? i'm not seeing them
>>55147986
vSphere is $200/year for home lab use for everything shown in pic related
>>55149758
>>55149758
Meanwhile Proxmox is free to use, just without support.
ESXi is a pain because moving VMs or doing anything on the host, not the VMs, is slow as shit.
Also USD is kinda expensive for everyone except for people in the US.
>>55149818
>ESXi is a pain because moving VMs or doing anything on the host, not the VMs, is slow as shit.
No it isn't.
>>55149856
yes it is, the host is limited when you upload to it.
>>55149867
???
What are you talking about? Are you doing vMotion on 1G or something?
>>55149886
take a vmdk and try to move to the host via vSphere.
its taken 4+ hrs to move a 50GB vmdk VM disk
>>55149899
Something is wrong with your shit, senpai. I don't have any issues like that.
>>55149913
client to host, not host to host.
>>55149922
Yea, I know. Datastore uploads. Your shit is fucked, I don't have any issue. I can upload at 1Gbps from my workstation to a host.
>>55149984
Proxmox never has this issue but then again, this happened on 3 machines that I have since made into proxmox hosts.
Not to mention that openvswitch bonds are fucking god sends.
>>55147091
the g5 basically just runs game servers right now
I'll be switching it over to proxmox at some point
>>55151172
hi reno
>>55149997
>work for a fortune 500 as a sysadmin
>they dont even have tech this good
>pent3 backups and most equipment is ibm 1U's that are 1st gen circa 2003
>MFW Oracle, Cisco, Lenovo, and Toshiba are partnered with us and we sell high volumes of products to clients using brand new shit.
Top to Bottom inside rack:
-2x Intel NUC
CPU: Core i3 5010U
RAM: 16GB
Function: set up as ESX HA cluster
-Router, Ubiquity EdgeMax Pro
-Switch 1, Quanta LB4M (48port 1Gbps, 2port 10Gbps)
-Switch 2, Arista 7124SX (24port 10Gbps)
-Server 1, Supermicro 1U
CPU: Core i3
RAM: 16GB ECC
SSD: 4x 1TB 850 Pro RAID 10
NIC: 2x10Gbit
Function: Datastore for vritualization
-Server 2, Supermicro 2U (Twin server, 2 nodes)
-Node 1:
CPU: 2x Intel XEON E5-2650v2 8 Core HT
RAM: 128GB ECC
Storage: ESX on USB
NIC: 4x10Gbit + 6x1Gbit
Function: ESXi Virtualization server
-Node 2:
CPU: 2x Intel Xeon E5-2609v2
RAM: 32GB ECC
SSD: 2x 512GB 850 Pro RAID 1
RAID CARD: LSI MegaRAID SAS 9286 8e SGL 8 + LSIiBBU09
NIC: 2x10Gbit + 2x1Gbit
Function: Storage server, RAID card is connected to the 4U JBOD underneath it.
-JBOD, Supermicro 4U
CASE: SC847 E16-RJBOD1
HDD: 37x 4TB RAID 60
-Old norco case storage machine
CPU: Intel i7 920
RAM: 24GB
SSD: 1x 128GB
HDD: currently 8x 2TB
NIC: 2x10Gbit
Function: Test server for storage stuff
-DL160G6
CPU: 2x Intel Xeon L5520
RAM: 32GB
HDD: 4x 1TB RAID 10
Function: Test server.
-750VA UPS for switches and router.
-1500VA UPS for NUC's, SAN and JBOD
-1500VA UPS for Twin server.
(norco and HP not on UPS as they are almost never on)
>>55151943
I am having a hell of a time with a SFF-8643 to SFF-8088 not detecting on my LSI 9206-16e, not sure if I have a bad card, or bad cables, I don't have any SFF-8643 to anything else to see if the card is being a pos.
>>55151985
Never had that issue, but I have always had good results from LSI support so I'd recommend contacting them.
so what are this things for?
what do you guys host?
>>55151441
so? do they do the job?
>>55152017
Its pretty infuriating, I already know what LSI is going to say "Are you using our 150 dollar cables?"... That being said going to send the card back to the seller, try my luck with a 2nd one. I love my MegaRaid 9265-8i, just need this HBA for my storage spaces.
No u
>>55147373
your internet connection looks suspiciously like a plant pot
>>55149818
this problem is specific to your set up - my guess would be that you're using the same physical nic for management, vmotion and regular vm traffic. don't do that. also why do you have an on-host datastore?
>>55152327
Dutch LSI support never took that tone with me.
>>55145816
Proxmox be crazy good. FOSS edition gets you all the goodies except subscription updates, but who gives a shit.
> Store your VM images on a SAN
> Raw LUN
> HA set up p good
> Instamove VM from host to host.
Price: $0
>>55152624
how does vm performance compare to esxi?
>>55152688
It's just kvm. So it's great. Now exactly sure how it compares, but I'd wager the difference is insignificant, if present at all.
can somebody explain what's the point of home server?
friendly bump
>>55149205
here you go
I at least have the excuse that I'm going for my CCNP
Pleb homeserver used for plex and automatic torrenting.
>>55152472
>your internet connection looks suspiciously like a plant pot
It's behind it
>home fire hazard general
>>55153413
never had a server catch fire..
>>55153413
>Not doing annual PAT testing
>>55149997
From top to bottom..
Netmaworkin'
-Quanta LB4M (48x1Gbs, 2x10Gbps SFP+)
-pFsense router, Intel 4x1Gb
Server 1 & 2
-Dual X5650 6 cores
-48 GB ECC
-2x136GB, 15k OS drive raid 1, 4x136GB 15k Raid 5
-HP NC522SFP Dual 10Gb SFP+
-4x1Gb Broadcom
Function: HyperV Hosts, forming HyperV cluster
Server 3
-Dual E5506 Xeons
-16 GB ECC
-2x136GB 10k OS drive raid 1
-Intel X520-DA2 dual 10Gbps SFP+
-LSI 9206-16e HBA (being a pos atm)
Function: iSCSI server, acts as SAN
JBOD, Supermicro 4U
Case: SC846
HDD: 4x3TB 7.2k sata, 4x2TB 7.2k sata, 8x1TB 7.2k dp SAS, 2x300GB 15k dp SAS
(muh storage spaces)
JBOD, Supermicro 2U
Case: SC216
HDD: 10x300GB 10k SAS dp, 2x250GB SSD, 1x500 GB SSD
>>55152416
Cute dog
>I miss mine ;_;
HP Microserver Gen8
Celeron version, upgraded to 8gb Ram with 4 x 2tb Drives.
Used for auto Torrenting, Plex, auto PC and Phone backups and photo storage.
>>55145816
This shits way too power hungry. Shit would ramp the bill up hardcore.
Hi /g/uys. I'm trying to start myself in this topic, but I'm facing a problem. I don't know what I need.
I mean in basic terms, I think I know what I need, but I don't know what it is a must in terms of security. I'm trying to put right an old router.
Beside firewall, what are musts? Wifi not working on custom router.
>>55153802
Post your specs of that "old router".
Firewall, can be any old piece of computer/router if your internet speeds are low.
>>55153862
Here you go mate.
>https://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/comtrend/ar5387un
What I'm trying to do is to get a custom net on my house, for fun and for learning. And maybe will try to puto OpenVPN or something like that.
>>55145816
Dell PE T620 (2x 2660, 192GB RAM, 2x 128GB SSD (OS), 4x 500GB SSD (Storage Spaces), 12x 4TB HDD (Storage Spaces)
Server 2012 R2 DC - Running storage spaces, ~30VM's (AVMA is win), 4 DC's, 2 NS, 2 DHCP, 4 Exchange, dirsync, ADFS, SQL, SharePoint, Team Foundation Server, SCCM/SCOM, Plex (8 cores, 8GB RAM, elevated priority, 24TB storage), few other test VM's.
Switch is a Dell X1018P. 16 port PoE GIG-E managed. Management, VoIP, and LAN vlan's.
SCOM monitors the switch and disk queues.
>>55153886
Router is actually not bad, only thing is that you will need to use a usb drive as exroot to compensate for the 16mb internal flash if you for example want to install openvpn packages.
https://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/extroot
It will work as a firewall + dhcp/dns easily.
To bad about the eeprom less BCM43225 wifi chip tho.
>>55153976
Well, I'm not really interested in Wifi, so maybe it won't be a bad thing. As I tried to understand, it seems like with Chaos Calmer I already have firewall and dhcp/dns. Should I try to put it up and connecting a machine to reach internet? Router is connected to an ISP router.
>>55153971
Apparently this nigger can't read HOME SERVER GENERAL, I mean seriously wtf? What kind of jack ass even if this is a "lab" has 4 DC, ? Wouldn't be surprised if you went full aspie and put in the entire System Center suite.
>>55154374
Except that I've ran a few of the hsg's, and am running a single server.
And apparently you can't read either... SCCM/ SCOM = System Center...
A router. A Cisco endpoint for my home phone. And a Pi for Pihole and a proxy.
Hectic setup. Soon I'll even add a NAS to my router.
>>55154021
Yeah, you can't really go wrong. Make sure you have backups of the original firmware tho
>>55154479
Ok, that will be mi goal this days. Thanks anon.
>>55151441
>Can't convince CTO/CFO of the value of upgrading your shit.
Shit sysadmin imotbh
>>55153522
Hey, how do you like the supermicro? Is the remote management ipmi thing any good?
Is there a wiki for this general? I wanted get started making a server.
>>55157725 Of course
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Home_server
>>55157811
Thanks bro.
>>55154420
I can read, I said the entire suit just not ops manager you aspie.
>>55157298
They're JBOD enclosures, so no IPMI.
>>55151943
Why? What is the point of all this? I work from home, and a Synology is all I ever need. What does one do that they need this?
>muh uptime
>>55147373
esxi is picky as hell hardware wise
>>55158647
2011 Thailand Floods, RIP HDD PRODUCTION
>>55157921
> Being this ass mad
> Literate
Are you sure?
>>55158815
nigga you aspie
> 2016, not using Docker + Reverse proxy to build all your services
WTF
>>55158958
you're a reverse proxy to gay
OS - Windows Home Server 2011
Function - DHCP/DNS/VPN/FTP/Streaming Media/File Server
Ram - 4GB Kingston DDR
CPU - Opteron-170 2.0Ghz
DVD-RW Drive
Motherboard - Foxconn winfast 6150
HDD x 9 -
1. 1TB Seagate (60GB OS Drive.Rest for Data)
2. 2x2TB Raid-1 Seagate (Movies/Music/E-Books)
3. 4x2TB Raid-10 (Data Archive)
4. 500GB Seagate (User Folders/FTP site folder)
5. 320GB Seagate (Backup drive for Laptop user docs and Server OS image)
Everything gets backed up to the small nas unit in front (8TB). The gray dell pc don't really do anything anymore. Used to be a dedicated game server box. WHS 2011 has been solid for many years now. Never any problems from it. Just works you know.
>>55158921
>MFW I'm white
Remember, you chose this.
>>55159083
white apologist, aspie and hate being white, man i am sorry
>>55158996
>backup NAS right in front of the backed up unit
What can possibly go wrong?
>>55159129
Everything is located in a dark corner of my basement that never gets used. I've got it up on pallets in case the basement floor gets wet. If water gets over the pallets well then I've got bigger problems than data loss.
just moved. now that ive got a room i can dump this stuff in i am working on picking up 1 or 2 r710's, dont think i will buy a rack
stay jelly
>>55153638
How well does the Celeron handle plex transcoding?
Anyone noticed how having a server is fun and enjoyable even when you don't use it much? It feels like having a pet.
Mac Pro: Just a desktop now. Replacing with the ARK Rackmount on the right. 24gb ram and quad Xeon.
ARK: i3, 8gb ecc. Unraid w/ Plex, sickrage and couchpotato. 15TB of storage.
HP 8100 elite: (bottom right) esxi 6, windows server VM, pfsense, oracle SQL server.
Not pictured: xserve 2008 with 32gb ram. Not running cuz its loud as shit and my apartment is small so I don't have anywhere to put the rack I own that is in storage.
>>55159436
>i am working on picking up 1 or 2 r710's, dont think i will buy a rack
Then don't buy R710s, but T710s.
Old pic from my old poor mans rack
Is anyone here doing archival? What are you using?
I'm currently looking for a nice, inexpensive, low power rack mount on Ebay. I've noticed a lot of cheap retired business servers floating about, which generation of Xeon should I be looking for?
Pls respond.
>>55159902
so those are a tower version that can be mounted sideways it looks like. a little pricey for what i want. i dont really care about buying a rack since i can just stack things on top of each other on the table and still be able to reach them without too much problem.
looking for 2 cpu's for each box, noise isnt too much of an issue since i have a room dedicated to a workshop and shit and i just leave the door closed. been looking at older generation racks since they are relatively cheap, these are all for esxi hosts, my thinkserver is an esxi host as well and i have long since pushed it to its limit. want to get something for a hyper-v host as well to learn on, and i need something to turn into a dedicated nas since right now i am using the ts140 for everything and it can only fit 2 6tb reds dedicated to storage.
>>55160056
Get a couple R210ii or R220s if you have the budget. Great for a home vSphere cluster, you could even mount them with your switches in a network closet.
>>55157985
Virtualization, email, private cloud storage, seedbox, There's a number of things.
What else can I use my home server for? I have number of VMs running on it. So far, I got:
>Active Directory
>DNS
>IIS
>File Server
>Torrent Seedbox
>VPN
>>55161648
Email, game server if you're into that.
>>55161669
Just don't.
>using plex
>>55157909
That cart is unusable now to anyone that is allergic to dog.
Dog people are literally the worst type of pet owners. Noone else thinks they need to lug an animal around with them everywhere they go.
Hi, so I really want to set up some kind of server rack or "home lab" to play around/learn different technologies and methods of configuring them in an environment which isn't the end of the world if I mess up. At the same time, I want to do something which will provide a purpose to me or anyone in my family.
Money, within reason, isn't a barrier with this project... the main issue is my Internet connectivity given that I live in rural England: ADSL 400KB/s down | 75KB/s up
Any pointers for things which I could do with a home server which don't rely on constant connectivity, things which are more LAN based?
>>55164306
Deal with it.
>>55164416
You can do everything you might do externally, internally.
3x Dell PowerEdge 750 for 20 bucks
Should I?
>>55164440
>Dell PowerEdge 750
>Pentium 4
it might cost only 20 bucks but you will be spending twice as much on electricity each day
>>55162547
Nooblet here, any reason why I shouldn't?
>>55164418
I'm not allergic to anything. Just pointing out the grown ass children walking around walmart and every other store.
>>55164467
Your IP range is probably on spam blacklists, most residential ISPs block port 25, and security is a pain in the ass. It's a really trying experience to do it at home. If you must do it, do it on a VPS.
I'm thinking of making an entire new build with Zen and Vega next year. What should I do with these specs? I have some samba shares on it, so it kind of already is a NAS. I haven't set up any VMs or done anything fancy with it.
>>55145831
newbie here, whats is the red and blue unit?
>>55145831
>RAID 10
Gotta go fast?
>>55158698
just an excuse to ramp up price
they recovered much faster then they will ever admit
any reasons not to host a simple webserver off a residential line? Haven't had any problems with an owncloud and VPN instance
>>55166944
not really, you just need;
- a static address, dyndns might do in some cases, but a static address is best when you're going beyond just personal use
- enough bandwidth and speed to handle what you're trying to achieve, naturally
>>55167045
Please offer me some advice/answers, anon:
Is it possible that my ISP is heavily throttling port 80 to discourage its use? While it's not blocked, it takes unusually long to respond from an external address (I'm almost certain the hardware and network should not be factors in the bottleneck). I'm using freeDNS afraid for a free hostname.
>>55167385
>Is it possible that my ISP is heavily throttling port 80 to discourage its use?
Depending on your ISP, some do. It may also be possible that accessing your own IP from inside itself is slow with some ISP's. Have you tried querying it from outside?
>>55167419
Also, not the same anon as >>55167045
>>55151441
whoa
>>55167385
it's not impossible, though i haven't personally heard of port 80/443 throttling
you could work around it by having port 80 respond back with a 301 (moved permanently) status code, which points to an alternate port
or if it's not too bad, host the pages on 80, and content such as images from an alternate port
>>55167419
>Have you tried querying it from outside?
yeah, I tried querying from a completely external source. I should see how fast it resolves directly with the IP to see if the freeDNS hostname service has anything to do with it (doubt it somehow)
Got a nice lightweight site ready that I'm going to test soon.
>>55167475
>you could work around it by having port 80 respond back with a 301
This sounds like a good solution if I continue to run into problems. Wouldn't even know where to start looking for an answer like this. Thanks
>>55167542
(assuming apache)
in the apache config file for the vhost on port 80, assuming your "true" server is listening on port 666:RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^yourdomainname.com
RewriteRule ^(.*) http://yourdomainname.com:666/$1 [P]
>>55167853
Will save this for future reference once I eliminate other possibilities. Thank you.
>>55168003
You're welcome
Another possibility could be using a free reverse caching proxy like CloudDNS and get free DDoS protection
>inb4 shill
>>55168072
Dunno if you can tell them to query another port and do >>55167853 though, but it could help
Dual Xeon F41 (CPUID number, i have no idea what the actual names are)
4gb DDR ECC mem
430 Antec Basiq PSU
Some shitty ass Antec case I butchered
Intel Serverboard SE7320SP2
160gb boot drive
640gb network storage
not the best network storage solution, but i dont have alot of money, and this server was basically given to me for free
>>55168072
>free reverse caching proxy like CloudDNS
that would probably be a good idea. I have no clue what I'm doing mostly so I'm not sure the level of tampering the site will have to deal with on a regular basis. Babby's first web facing site. I have only had owncloud facing the web forever now without much incident.
>>55168081
Sounds right but I'm a pleb so I would need to read about it more
>>55152582
Good news! Manage to completely wipe the firmware on the HBA, force flash back to an older version, and we're up and going. Just need to configure my storage spaces again.
>>55168279
*CloudFlare, had a brain fart. It's late here.
>>55153267
Nope. You cannot convince me that you aren't using PlalAnt&T
>>55153476
Backup battery, sure, but I haven't seen a server go up.
>>55168308
Gotcha, I assumed it was similar to Cloudflare anyway based on your description
>tfw UPS battery shit itself recently
Was like a fucking fire alarm
>>55164467
Email is rather hard to do correctly, there are many things that can go wrong security wise. Also, most major email providers probably block emails to/from your ISP's range, unless you have business internet.
>>55168360
There's ClouDNS and Google Cloud DNS too, but those are, precisely, for DNS, and not for what you asked for. But they could help in the future.
>>55168427
Makes sense. Thanks again for the input.
Jesus christ haven't seen one of these in months, they need to keep coming back on regular bases.
I need to update my pictures, that monitor isn't there anymore.
1/2
>>55169271
>>55145816
>Home Server
The label on the patch panel clearly reads "Office Jacks".
>>55152900
eh might as well explain my setup
bottom up
2 48 port 3560s
2 24 port 2560s
1 24 port gbit netgear switch
on top of that is an odroid X which hosts my website and 1 of the console connections to one of the switches
early 2011 macbook pro, 16gb ram, 1tb HDD, OS X server. not using it for much yet except for VPN.
behind that is an e6430, 8gb ram, 500gb hdd running windows server 2012r2 that is my AD server and some VMs for testing.
also in my main room I have a NAS running freenas with 6 2tb drives in raid 6, and 1 4tb drive it has some i3 and 16 gigs of ram.
I eventually need to move it over into the basement with the other stuff, but that thing is like silent so I'm too lazy to move it.
>At work @home on my server.
Wish, I was actually home though.
Also I think I will switch the L5640 with an X5690. It's 30% more performance and it might even throttle every once in a while and the L5640 is almost never throttling and instead runs at the full 72W 90% of times.
>>55147987
those are really good to make your room warm on winter
source: run pe1950 + 2950 on winter, had to open window few times for a while
>>55160861
So list them all faggot.
>>55170532
List all the things you can do with a computer, faggot.
Render machine, compiling, game server, Do a thin client arrangement, have a beefy machine, and remote into it with a shitbook or otherwise weaker machine.
>>55159528
It sometimes varies, using the same microserver celeron edition, and some 1080p very lightly stutters and sometimes freezes but that is about it.
>>55167419
>It may also be possible that accessing your own IP from inside itself is slow with some ISP's
Maybe if your gateway doesn't do NAT loopback.
>>55168340
thats why you inspect the UPS when you replace the batteries
>>55145816
why would you need a 2U dedi firewall and router
You can't possibly have the traffic level to make using it worth it
Ok. So my IP address is 192.168.2.xxx
My Subnet Mask is 255.255.255.0.
What if my subnet mask was 255.255.0.0?
What would that mean?
>>55174359
That would mean your IP address range would be 192.168.xxx.xxx
>>55174293
1U rackmount cases don't fit standard I/O shields that well.
>>55174359
from my shit knowledge of networking it would basically mean you can have more hosts
255.255.0.0 --> 192.168.XXX.XXX
it would put you from a Class C to a Class B
>>55174431
true
>>55166912
Eggs were expensive for an entire year because the cheap feed egg chickens got sick and put down.
Meanwhile I could myself get a chicken and have it laying eggs in under 2 months.
>>55174445
>>55174422
Ok. So why does my home network have subnetting? I understand for large networks, but there are only 3 - 4 devices at my house. I have never used subnet mask, or whatever the subnet switch is.
From what I have understood so far subnet is useful for me if i want to contact other computers on my network without going outside of my network.
>>55174515
You have it because you're behind a NAT.
>>55174478
Wish I could get myself a Taiwanese factory worker laying electronic components
Anytime there's any inconsistency in the market for high demand goods it gets blown out of proportion to take advantage of the situation. Sucks. In reality things get fixed in a matter of hours/days because companies take profit loss very seriously yet on paper the pricing goes up even permanently. It's like testing the water and seeing how high the consumer is still willing to pay
>>55158698
It was fucking bullshit. It took way too long to even get their initial prices before the flood, they're sneaky.
>>55174515
the same reason your car has gears you never typically drive on
>>55174515
>Ok. So why does my home network have subnetting?
Because it does. RFC1918 had to consider corporate as well as home users.
>>55174515
TL;DR it defines how many computers you can have on your home network.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+subnet+mask%3F
>>55174515
Since your using NAT your home network can be any class you want. Class A/B/C, don't really mater. The outside world sees only the IP assigned by your ISP. So say your running an FTP server from home, some dude types ftp://www.example.com, your router receives this request and shunts it (layman's terms) to appropriate pc running the FTP server on your lan. (course you have to do a bit of configuration first in your router before this will work)
>>55174920
or if your lucky and your isp gives you the same IP everytime you can just type that for your ftp server, ex ftp://10.10.30.102 and go from there.
>>55174960
That's worse, though.
>>55174960
But honestly, the typical class c address everyone seems to use (192.168.0.x with 255.255.255.0 sub) will support 254 devices. so for home use it is more than enough addresses even if your running a VPN which defaults to allocating ten address right from the start for clients.
>>55175033
>not using 10.0.0.0/8 in your home network
git but
List more use cases for home servers
![Screenshot_20160620-131626[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/wbt7Tzx.png "Screenshot_20160620-131626[1].png")
Ok so this is how i understood it so far from searching the web. I wrote it down in a note in the image in this post.
However I am stuck at understanding the <host> part.
>>55175212
Like what is the host part? Is it the 2.xxx part of my IP?
>>55175212
What are you doing, man?
Can anyone tell me where I can geht cheap 28U racks? I'm in Europe, Germany to be precise. The challenge is, that they have to be 1000mm deep.
>>55175282
Like WHAT IS THIS ENTIRE THING?
The subnet is used for organization basically.
The default gateway is my routers private IP.
The public IP is assigned to me by my ISP.
What is the meaning of my <network><host><subnet>?
If my IP is broken down by the subnetting into these 3 things. The network address is the address from which all devices are assigned addresses. The Subnet address is the subnet from my router. Then what is the host?
>>55175344
Is the host my device?
Wouldn't it make sense for the subnet to get its address from the network address?
>>55175344
>Then what is the host?
it's the last octet in your IP with the breakdown >>55175344
>>55175212
provided
so for example
<network> <host> <subnet>
192.168.1. 1-254 255.255.255.0
>>55145816
I have a question? I'm new to home servers so I wonder why a rack is needed? Is it if you are hosting multiple different types of servers? Because can't you just host a server on an old laptop (i.e Thinkpad) with it connected to ethernet? I think I would get for heavy duty home servers a rack would be required but for simple home use like a web and ftp would it be needed?
>>55175470
>why a rack is needed?
A rack is needed if you have rackmount machines.
>>55175470
a rack is in no way required and is actually pointless for a typical home setup
a 'server' can be any shittop or depreciated PC box, it doesn't matter
The most important thing is to get something that is friendly to your power bill and quiet. Trust me. Don't fall for the /g/ meme and get an outdated vacuum cleaner that adds a noticeable amount to your power bill and has sound levels equivalent to a vacuum cleaner. For simple light tasks an old laptop is really enough or a small build like pic related.
>>55145816
It's my parent's home server. It takes care of storing their shit (mostly family pictures and movies) and downloading torrents via webgui (with firefox addon installed on their thinkpads). It's also a CUPS print server, mail server, LAMP server (mostly roundcube and wordpress for their needs) and a car pinger (it contacts RPi based computer in their car and tracks it's GPS position via 3g connection - it's a security feature in case the car is stolen or something).
Oh, and I ordered a 2TB M9T HDD last week. I'm gonna connect it to it and use it for my own needs. The second 500GB internal HDD is being used to rsync shit from the first 500GB HDD in case of a hardware failure, so everything is intact. I also wrote a failover script that remounts the samba share to the second HDD if it becomes unresponsive.
Feels good to have tech aware parents. :^)
>>55175600
Pretty dank machine. Takes only 15W of power under full load and it lasts under the APC UPS for an entire hour.
>>55175540
>So how do we get from 1-254 to 255.255.255.0?
255.255.255.0 basically means:
network_octet.network_octet.network_octet.host_octet
so for example 192.168.1.[1-254]
it's 254 possible because the value '255' is reserved
>>55175620
this is very nice for basic use
negligible noise and powerdraw and small size, the most important factors in a home setup imo
What Windows based application can I set my own email server on? I already have domain name and a static IP address, as well as a virtualised home server.
>inb4 use freedom
I have 0 experience with linux. Maybe some other time.
>>55175744
If anyone is interested the internal SATA DOM SSD can be upgraded from 16GB to 64GB without taking space for two additional 2,5" drives. Fan is also not needed, I only used it because of two 7200RPM drives (instead of 5400RPM ones)
I was considering buying three of those and using them in a cluster, but I ended up in getting HP 8200 USFF with i7-2600s and 16GB RAM. It's only a little bit bigger but it's much more powerful.
>>55175777
>I have 0 experience with linux. Maybe some other time.
>wants to do server related setup
good luck
>>55175777
The whole point of hosting your own email is so you have control of it, instead of companies like Microsoft
>>55175877
>implying shit being sent to you isn't controlled by external mail providers or the ISP
All mails being sent to you from hotmail, gmail and other public providers are going completely unencrypted. You're cucked either way.
Also here's my old file vault. It was loud as shit (HP DL360G5) so I got rid of it after two months of use. I will never get myself a rack 1u server. Fuck it
>>55175622
I noticed my default gateway is also 192.168.2.1. Which looks like my ipv4 address. If my ipv4 address and subnetting work together does my default gateway have anything to do with the subnet?
>>55176105
your gateway will have an internal ipv4 192.168.2.1 and an external ipv4 for outbound connections
There are classes of IP addresses reserved for internal networks (10,192,172)
Subnetting in your case is used to further divide your internal network.
You usually don't have to worry too much about this since if you're on 255.255.255.0 that's 254 hosts that are available.
>>55159913
>not using ikea lack rack coffe table
Its literally 8 bucks,
>>55176208
those tend to work nicely
>>55176105
Each subnet has a default gateway, typically at the first address in the range.
Would it he possible to retrofit and arcade cabinet into a home server or would airflow be a problem?
>>55169556
I got it from a recycler with a bunch of cut up cat6 for $15
And I haven't bothered to label it
>>55174293
The case is 1.5u, and uses cheap consumer sized stuff
>>55175470
Old Rackmount stuff is cheap and so is power
It also makes it easier to have all your servers and networking in a easy to move cube
>>55175777
Learn some basic Linux stuff and use iredmail
I use it and it was 2ez
Here I am
>>55177265
Not the other guy, but I did the same thing. Garbage finds are gold.
You can't beat FREE-fiddy.
Can someone explain to me the point of having your own home network?
>>55178026
I like to browse my huge mango collection from any device anywhere on the house.
I just find an old 2008 computer with 2GB of RAM a Core Duo@ 2.20GHz. I need to decide if made that a server or if I should buy a prebuilt NAS with 2 HDD in RAID and one ethernet port.
Any tips?
>>55177911 is my test server
>>55178026
A lot of us at netadmins, it keeps our skills sharp. I do netsec, the lab environment helps my policy set skills.
Also I like to watch anime when I shit.
>>55168360
>Black container
Jesus Christ it must have been hot as fuck in there
>want a fancy home network to improve general skills in server configuration and networking
>have a shit ADSL connection
>no more than 400KB/s down
>no more than 70KB/s up
>this is on a good day
Given this situation, what can I setup in my house which doesn't rely greatly on my incoming/outgoing line? Of course occasional downloads are fine however it can't be a service which is dependant on uploading/downloading.
>>55178331
I wonder how efficient it is to cool those containers compared to the same volume of equipment in a conventional DC
>>55178331
>must have been hot as fuck in there
>sun
>>55178371
>70KB up
I don't think it's worth trying
Can that even handle serving simple html?
>>55178371
stop living in England
>posted from my 200Mb connection in Belfast
>>55178429
If he serves a webpage that just has text - no vidoes, javascript, and few if any images, something that looks like motherfuckingwebsite.com, then that'll do, with the low amount of visitors its likely to get.
>>55178486
>with the low amount of visitors its likely to get.
yeah, that's what I was thinking as well
better to just get a dirt cheap VPS imo
>>55177927
these days you can assemble great hardware for close to nothing
Who sends the request for the IP address of a website, does the ISP send the request to the root servers?
So does it go from my device, through the router to the ISP and then the root servers?
>>55178557
basically your router sends out a request to a hierarchy of DNS servers
often, you are configured to query your ISP's DNS servers as the first hop
>>55178429
>>55178486
>>55178517
I was looking for something which I can play around with which is mainly used on my local network - preferably something which involves setting up VMs etc.
>>55178479
Trust me, when I can, I will.
>>55177911
>unichrome
Holy shit I haven't seen one of these in the wild for 10 years.
>>55178596
>>55178588
So in a corporation, there are DNS servers that the client computers contact first?
How is this beneficial than going through the ISP?
>>55178611
A single ISP isn't connected to literally everything. Your packets will go through other ISPs to get where they need to go.
>>55178598
>I was looking for something which I can play around with which is mainly used on my local network
Just get some average hardware and throw a hypervisor of choice on it
I think Proxmox is the least picky about hardware
I wouldn't put anything web facing with 70KB up
You can have Gigabit and above on your homenetwork obviously with the right switches and NICs
>>55178629
But what about computers at my work? Why do the servers have a DNS ip address?
![4037dfea5a3c205a672a7d57fce6ac21[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gwOa4K4.jpg "4037dfea5a3c205a672a7d57fce6ac21[1].jpg")
>>55178596
Fucking shit I'm stupid, I thought you were referring to your server getting leased an IP, not reaching to another IP
IGNORE ME!
>>55147373
>core i3 sandy bridge
shit nigger, you really tried to save your shekels on that investment
>>55178646
They have a private DNS that does a lookup on the private network before going external.
>>55178598
>preferably something which involves setting up VMs etc.
Set up DNS, DHCP, Active directory, IIS, terminal server, file server, email.
All of it requires no or little internet connection. Even setting a website up would do on your shitty connection if you don't mind having only like 2 people visiting it a day.
Like I have a website running and literally no one visited it since I have set it up a month ago, but it taught me that botnets are scanning for vulnerabilities all the time.
>>55178649
>core i3 sandy bridge
And it does its job very well. Before I got hyper-v setup, I was running everything on a single server on Celeron G1620. The CPU usage never went above 25%.
>>55178611
those DNS servers might be configured to more quickly resolve certain queries and might be configured to filter others as well
you have more flexibility in setup when you run your own DNS servers
>>55178646
>Why do the servers have a DNS ip address?
they need to know who to ask for queries
on a typical SOHO your router is also your DNS server
on larger networks the DNS server is a separate entity due to custom setups for intranets etc and the fact that it has to deal with a large volume of requests
Someone feel free to verify this or further clarify
>>55178598
>>55178637
Yeah, of course - I was looking to set-up a little rack of some description... maybe build a server which could also function as my main desktop as well.
My DL/UL doesn't hinder general usage, as such - e.g web browsing and streaming/progressive torrenting is all fine... although as you said, it's not even worth making an attempt to host anything, which is a shame.
>>55164497
this, also protip: you are responsible for the security on your mailserver, if that shit gets hacked and starts to send spam, you are in deep shit. not only will you forever be blacklisted, but you can be held liable.
>>55178695
come on man, the quad-core xeon's are not that expensive. what stuff are you running anways in your hyper-v?
>>55178697
>>55178685
Aren't you just involved by going through the subnet to contact the local server for the DNS lookup? What does having a DNS IP address got to do with anything?
>>55178554
DL380 G5's... poweredge 1955 blade servers... yeah no thanks
>>55178695
Active Directory, DNS, File Server, IIS, Torrent Seedbox, Terminal Server, VPN.
Also I enjoy its low power usage. I honestly have no need for anything better than this i3. I wouldn't complain if I had more ram though, but this shitty 2nd hand ebay motherboard has only 2 slots.
>>55178829
your DNS server needs an IP whether it's your router or a dedicated server on a corporate network
your computer needs to know who to query next
>>55178695
Thanks for the suggestions!
>Active Directory
Personally I use Linux and dabble with Windows if I need and my mum uses OS X - in this case AD isn't going to be so relevant or worthwhile I suppose.
>File Server
A file server however would be useful given that my mum has roughly 6-7TB of storage which is only growing (this was my main idea) My main concern of this is that we live in quite an old building - thick walls meaning wireless is problematic, with this being said, the electrical cabling was entirely redone... could this be of any use with making a physical link? I ask as I'm under the impression that the general consensus is that using power lines are a last resort given that... they're shit.
>DHCP
Pros and cons of running DHCP on a dedicated server over router?
>DNS
Pros and cons of running my own DNS over using the likes of OpenDNS or the default which the ISP may set?
>IIS
I'm not familiar with this, I'll take a look into it.
Out of everything a Fileserver is something that I've wanted to do the most however I'm not sure about the logistics of it all - it's primary data would be a Lightroom catalog which in itself can be quite large, often consisting of RAW files which are around 50MB in size. Read /Writes would need to be consistent and fast - I'm not sure how doable that is without having CAT cabling going all the way through my house from the server.
>>55178988
>Personally I use Linux and dabble with Windows if I need and my mum uses OS X - in this case AD isn't going to be so relevant or worthwhile I suppose.
I only use AD to keep manage my VMs. I wouldn't use it on my home computer.
>Pros and cons of running my own DNS over using the likes of OpenDNS or the default which the ISP may set?
instant access time vs 20-40ms to get to OpenDNS
>Pros and cons of running DHCP on a dedicated server over router?
education
>IIS, I'm not familiar with this, I'll take a look into it.
Basically a web server.
About the file server, see >>55147373
I wire everything I can. I only have my laptops and mobile devices running off WiFi.
>all these people with big racks with iconic server look
>others with just one computer and 5 vms running in it that looks like a personal pc
why did vms ruin everything
>>55179029
>Using AD to managed VMs
Of course, I entirely overlooked this. Good thinking.
>Pros and cons of running DHCP on a dedicated server over router?
>education
That's good enough for me.
>I wire everything I can. I only have my laptops and mobile devices running off WiFi.
In the ideal world I'd do this - if I could I'd have dedicated CAT port for all rooms which I'd likely want them in... but this is an old Victorian farm house so I can't see that happening. Especially with the thick brick walls. Basically my only options are to use WAPs or somehow use the existing power cables... although from my experience using Devolo Powerlines, they've been shit and so inconsistent.
>>55179094
Come on, these exist for a reason. If you had a father you can do it.
>>55179139
kek
Our rooms are so awkwardly shaped that it's not worth the hassle. The telephone line is literally on the other end of the house in relation to the living room/office. If I were getting respectable speeds coming to the house externally then I'd consider going to the effort of this though.
>all these blades and real server setups
Man, all I need is simple, low-power hardware to be my NAS. I feel like such a casual compared to some of you.
Can you turn a dual core Phenom-II with 12GB ram and 1TB HDD + 60GB SSD into an effective server?
I feel like those are too shit of specs, but I ain't got any other use for it.
>>55179338
Dude for a server that's over kill. Up your storage and your golden
>>55179338
see >>55178695
I was running what is now 6 VMs on celeron G1620 and 8GB of RAM.
Heh back in the day corporations ran Server 2k3 with AD/DNS/DHCP all on same box with some also acting as a File/VPN/IIS server as well. They ran said box with dual core cpus in the 500 - 1ghz range with maybe 512 - 1gb of ram. Point is if a corporation with 100 users did that back then with zero problems performance wise then it's safe to say pretty much anything you got now, long as it's least a dual core job will work fine.
When building a server your main thing you want lots of is storage. Do it right and you can go years depending on how much data you add before you have to shutdown and expand it or purge your old files. Another thing is case choice. Pick one with lots of drive bays, 3.5, 5.25 it don't matter. they make brackets to allow 3.5 drives to be mounted in the 5.25 bays. Do it right and you can expand your storage easy. do it wrong and end up throwing out a good drive cause you need the bay not cause the drive failed.
Are there any free hypervisors that are as easy to use and reliable as ESXi?
Proxmox?
Xen?
I'm getting pissed off with the number of APIs that don't work without a license. I just want graceful shutdowns ffs.
>>55179955
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>>55179991
Anything but Windows.
1.66ghz intel atom, 2GB ddr2, 1x 20gb xbox 360 hard drive and 1x 500gb WD green, custom built case/
>>55180007
Then don't use the superior Hyper-V. Don't come crying to us because you're a massive faggot.
>>55180343
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>>55180343
Is this a joke? Does this really work cause looks like a fire hazard to me not to mention all the electrical shorts and dead parts.
>>55180513
Fire hazard? Maybe. Electrical shorts? Since when was cardboard conductive?
>>55179955
Use xenserver, fám.
>>55145831
Virtualization on j1900s?
>>55180571
>xenserver
What are the catches? What makes it better than Proxmox?
>>55180552
It's not the conductivity, it's the heat
>>55152818
Damn son, how old's that picture?
9tb is like 2 hdd's.
