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Previously on: >>55119368

Welcome to /fglt/. We are always open to users of all levels, including absolute beginners.

There are four ways to try GNU/Linux, you can:

0) Install a GNU/Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
1) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full GNU/Linux experience".
2) Dual-boot GNU/Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about GNU/Linux)
3) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with GNU/Linux

Before asking, please search for answers to your questions in resources.

Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.

Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe WINE can make up for it.

IRC connection details:
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If you don't have an IRC client (which you should), go to https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/flt to use IRC on a web client.

Visit the Friendly GNU/Linux Thread/Website:
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Resources:
man <insert command here>
Your friendly neighborhood search engine (searx.me, ixquick, whatever)
https://wiki.archlinux.org/ (Most of the configurations and troubleshoots will work on various distros, including Debian)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux/
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
https://www.gnu.org/
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How do you deal with old kernels in *buntu? I've been using kubuntu for a few weeks and I already have 3 kernels installed, I thought that it kept current and last previous version and removed the rest but it seems they are kept unless removed explicitly. Am I missing something? I don't want a million kernel versions in /boot.
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How do you change the default terminal in Arch?

I want urxvt to open when I choose "open a terminal here" in Thunar.
Thunar custom action is
exo-open --working-directory %f --launch TerminalEmulator
but TerminalEmulator is not an environment variable. I tried replacing "TerminalEmulator" by "urxvt" without success.
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>>55133835
have you tried the window class of urxvt? Isn't it something like URxvt?
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>>55133856
I tried to replace TerminalEmulator by URxvt but still no success.

However, when I type URxvt in a terminal, I get the error
zsh: command not found: URxvt
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>>55133936
It was a pointer to a direction, not an instruction. Find out what the actual window class is.
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>>55133835
>Arch Linux
>Has no idea how to change the terminal

>>55133936
>zsh
>has no idea how to use a shell

sorry but, EVERY TIME
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>>55134120
>>55133835
>>55133936

Now let's be helpful.

Two ways:

1. use "x-terminal-emulator" which always points to the default terminal

2. to call URxvt, you need to use run "urxvt" (lowercase)
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>>55134120
Ayy, I know right. I should install windows 10, stay away from a terminal and never try to learn anything new.

>>55134159
Thank you.
I don't know what to edit to change "x-terminal-emulator"...

what do you mean by needing to run "urxvt" to call URxvt?

The problem was solved using exo-preferred-applications and then replacing the "default terminal emulator"
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>>55134120
>using arch has nothing to do with a file manager that is not installed by default
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>>55133665
apt-get autoremove
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So if I install Ubuntu Mate as my first linux distro. What should/could I do with it?
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>>55133611
I just found out about KDE Connect. If I put this on my media server would I be able to control Kodi from it?
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>>55134416
Learn shell scripting.
Automate things.
Automate more things.
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>>55134444
Automate? Explain please. Im a pleb
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>>55134456
Let's say you want to press a hotkey that automatically runs programs, places windows, sorts pictures and makes coffee and gives you a foot massage - then you want shell scripting.
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Someone asked for pasta? Delicious pasta here:

> Shell pasta:

The based GNU Bourne Again SHell:
https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/

The community driven BASH wiki:
http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/

The Grymoire - home for UNIX wizards:
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/index.html

Greg's (also known as GreyCat's) wiki:
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls

SED and AWK; your new best friends:
http://www.pement.org/sed/sed1line.txt
http://www.pement.org/awk/awk1line.txt

Google's Shell Style Guide:
https://google.github.io/styleguide/shell.xml

The Linux Command Line - A Book By William Shotts:
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php

Interesting, useful and dangerous one-liners:
http://www.commandlinefu.com/

Great online (and offline) linting tool:
http://www.shellcheck.net/

Know what you are doing:
http://explainshell.com/
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>>55134556
>The Linux Command Line
The book is very good, but the title pants on head.
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>>55134556
>tfw I never managed to learn how to use sed

I kept doing overengineered vim trickeries ever since I was a freshman
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I'm currently installing Funtoo
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>>55134367
That doesn't get rid of the old ones. How many kernels is it supposed to keep?
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Cleaning my pasta archives and found this one, maybe someone has use for it.

> Tiling pasta:

/*
Tiling Window Managers:
*/

General informations:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Window_manager

Awesome:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Awesome

Awesome + Gaps:
https://github.com/copycat-killer/lain

i3:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/I3

i3 + Gaps:
https://github.com/Airblader/i3

bspwm:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bspwm

spectrwm:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Spectrwm

dwm:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dwm

/*
Tiling scripts (these work DE/WM independent):
*/

Pytyle:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/pytyle/

Pytyle2:
https://code.google.com/p/pytyle/

Pytyle3:
https://github.com/BurntSushi/pytyle3/

Pytyle differences:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1058199#p1058199

Horsefuckers tiling BASH scripts:
http://twily.info/scripts/tiling/
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>>55134715
https://github.com/TheWanderer/stiler
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>>55134715
https://gist.github.com/datalyze-solutions/f7d54c020e8f41896b3d
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>>55134715
>>55134745
>>55134753
I guess that's all.
Personally, I'd recommend bspwm.
Enjoy.
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I'm experiencing quite a strange problem with the sound in Arch linux.

>I had no problem for few months.

>Then the sound is starting to stop randomly. Once it has stopped only a reboot solves the issue
I tried for example to restart asla but nothing does.
Nothing appears on dmesg
alsa doesn't seems to have logs I can read to try to troobleshoot
The issue keep happening. Sometimes after ~40 min, sometime within seconds after the reboot.
pluging the earphone also give no sound

>But if I keep the earphones plugged in FROM the reboot, I can keep the sound working for hours.

I have no idea what to do.
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tried ricing with open box and it fucked up my previous config. how do I remove openbox? running
pacman -Rs openbox doesn't work. or -Runs it's still there after reboot.
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>>55134880
>Arch user
Lmao every time
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>>55134880
Have you tried
pacman -Rsc openbox
?

>>55134893
>go to friendly linux thread
>"bully" arch users
lmaoing at your life. If you spent as much time trying to install than shitposting, maybe you'd also successfully install arch one day.
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>>55134880

>doesn't know how to uninstall a package
>wants to "rice"

Let me guess, you also installed zsh, without even utilizing 1% of Bash's capabilities?
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>>55134880
>>55134957
If still not working, try pacman -Rn opembox and remove manually your dotfiles.

Also, what was your problem when you riced openbox?

>>55134998
zsh autocomplete is goat tho.
>let me guess, you have built your own supercomputer and installed LFS on your fridge?
My guess is that you're one of those "pls rate my built" /v/ spillover.
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>>55134697
It should get rid of all unused software, which all old kernels are. Maybe it doesn't work that way in Kubuntu, I use Ubuntu. You could just remove them manually.
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>>55134873
You're using alsa only or with pulseaudio?
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>>55135345
only alsa.
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>>55133665
 r="$(dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d')"
[[ -n $r ]] && sudo apt-get purge $r
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I've been running mint 17.2 for about 6 months now. Initially I installed it for my uni work as developing embedded software in a gnu/linux environment is much easier, but I have begun to use it for entertainment thanks to wine and the growing support for gnu/linux as a platform.

However, I get the feeling that my system is slowly failing. It is beginning to freeze after ~1 hour usage. Shutting my laptop and re-opening unfreezes it and flashes an error message across the screen for a second or so before it flicks to the login screen. Is there a way to find or capture these error messages? The messages always say something about "unclaimed resources" but I need to record everything before I can get more help. A quick google has yielded nothing.
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>>55135373
>>55135373
not sure I can help you but try giving a look at the ouptut of "dmesg"

Also maybe not a fix but have you tried other desktop environments or windows manager?
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This guy.
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I've been installing Funtoo for the past fucking 3 hours. Kernel took an hour. God damn

Is this shit even going to be worth it in the end?
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>>55135730

>installing an operating system without even knowing its merrits

Idiot.
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>>55135749
Is that what you decided to stick with windows 10?
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>>55135777
Have they?
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>>55135685
He's uniq.
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What flavor of Debian (i386 or amd64) do I put on my 6600K PC?
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>>55134492
>makes coffee and gives you a foot massage
>mfw we live in a time where this is actually possible
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>>55136024
the 64bit one.
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Don't see Debian getting much love in here. Is that bad or good?
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I need to get a new laptop and I'd like to be able to do some light gaming on it. Should I go AMD or Nvidia? I know Nvidia has better performance on the proprietary drivers for the moment, but I hear AMD is catching up, is that true? Also, which one provides a better experience outside of gaming (keeping up with kernel updates, etc.)? Will Vulkan tip the balance in AMD's favor a few years down the road?

In short, which would you pick?
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>>55136136
Used it for a few years. Debian stable is great until you want a newer package and go to Testing, which removes Debian's trademark stability. Then you might lose your GUI just by running apt-get dist-upgrade without an easy way to unfuck your system just by running a command.

If there was an easy and obvious way to do that I'd still be running Debian Testing. Now, I'm trying my luck with Fedora.

If someone gives you a script/command to 'undo' apt-get dist-upgrade it's totally worth checking out.
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Do I have to install usb drivers for my portable usbs to work in arch?

My mouse works fine but my beagle bone and usb don't even show up when I plug it in. worked with manjaro.
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>>55134120
gotta appreciate them diving into the deep end.

now if they only drowned too.
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Is this good anons?
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>>55136972
Bump
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>>55136972
>Bumping that fast
there is no "good" scheme.
If you want a separate home partition and some swap, go for it.

Myself, I have only one partition, the /
I have only one user, myself and I don't want to swap on my ssd.

On the gentoo handbook, they advise to have at least a / and /boot partition.
if you have a lot of user, a separate /home partition is good
if you are running a mail server, a separate /var partition is good

One good thing with a separate home partition is that you don't have to backup your stuff when you fuck up and need a fresh install. But I don't mind since I backup anyway.
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>my picture used for a general
oh boy
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>>55137307

Wow, you're such an unique and well rounded person, amazing how you project your soul and personality via an image, we approve you, you're g approved, amazing, you were validated, people look at your objects that other people created but you consume, you did well, amazing, you did so well buying things
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>>55137372
thank you, friend! that was the validation I was looking for!
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>>55136972
If I was you, I'd use a /boot partition (and it should be the first one)
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I can't use "Universal USB Installer" to install on my usb drive, "syslinux" just crash instantly.
How to proceed?
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>>55137307
>sharpnel sticker
good taste
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I am trying to use the wifi on a Dell Latitude e6440
From this page, https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Dell/LatitudeE6440/Jessie since it is using muh non free driver, I have to install it myself

Following the instructions on this page https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi#Installation,


I add to /etc/apt/sources.list
# Debian 8 "Jessie"
deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free
and run the instructions

# apt-get update && apt-get install firmware-iwlwifi
# modprobe -r iwlwifi ; modprobe iwlwifi

as root.

But no wifi interface shows up when I do ifconfig.
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>>55137751
Wait what
I didn't know about this
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>>55137584

your distro will have specific instructions for making a usb if not post your OS and what distro you're trying to use

the universal installers can be okay for some distros but they tend to break others
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>>55137372
And here we see an autist and its natural reaction when seeing people.
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How do I clean up useless packages I have installed on arch? I mean when I use yaourt is installs a million things to compile shit
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>>55137751
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
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>>55137751
can you copy pasta all your /etc/apt/source.list please ?

use pastebin if it's too long
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So I've installed arch and now got a comfy set up. Feels good actually. pretty novice linux too.
why do archfags insist on being pricks?
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>>55138731
# 

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.5.0 _Jessie_ - Official amd64 CD Binary-1 20160604-15:35]/ jessie main

#deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.5.0 _Jessie_ - Official amd64 CD Binary-1 20160604-15:35]/ jessie main

deb http://ftp.jp.debian.org/debian/ jessie main
deb-src http://ftp.jp.debian.org/debian/ jessie main

deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main

# jessie-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
deb http://ftp.jp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main
deb-src http://ftp.jp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main

# Debian 8 "Jessie"
# for the non-free wifi driver
deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free
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>>55138801
I'm not sure those guys are actual arch users. I think there's a lot of retards that wants to shitpost and just meme about arch users.
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>>55138801
They don't. It's arch hater that keep shitposting thus propagating the image.
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>>55138917

add
contrib non-free
at the end of every line starting with deb

deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free

is probably not required, you can try without it, it should works.

update & try to install your driver again.
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>>55138917
>
deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free

This isn't just for the non-free wifi drivers
Its for everything non-free not included in the main repos


Anyways try to replace deb
http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free
with
deb http://ftp.jp.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free
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>>55138954
Do not do this
It will break the main repos
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>>55138954
I installed firmware-iwlwifi already.

But when I try to add the module, nothing changes in the answer of ifconfig.

>>55138963
?

>>55138956
The comment was for me to remember why I put that line there. But thank you for the precision.

I'll try what you suggest and repeat the process, but as mentioned in this post, I feel like the problem is with modprobe
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>>55139019
>I installed firmware-iwlwifi already.
>
>But when I try to add the module, nothing changes in the answer of ifconfig.
Reboot
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>>55139040
I tried before posting.
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What's the benefit of using urxvt? I know rice fags like it, but I'm pretty happy with my default xfce but if there's some features that I'm missing or perfomance I'd be interested.
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>>55139055
Have you tried this?
https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line
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>>55135730
Funtoo comes with a binary kernel now doesn't it?!
If you're compiling debian sources then it is huge with every module known to man enabled.
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>>55139097
I tried before posting but since no wireless interface was shown in ifconfig, I went asking for help.
Somehow after the edit proposed by >>55138956
my ifconfig now shows a wlan0

I'll try, hoping it works.
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>>55139097
>>55139190
>>55139097

The wifi is on, but no network is showing up when my computer is scanning.
I tried nmtui and it doesn't even let me activate the wifi.

When I have the wifi on, I cannot acces the network via a wired connection. Switching it off instantly makes it available again.
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How do I go about customizing lightdm-gtk-greeter it's just an ugly black colour atm. using xfce
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>>55139073
nah, you're only missing out on autism.
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>>55139252
[user1@primary ~]$ pacman -Qi lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings
Name : lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings
Version : 1.2.0-4
Description : Settings editor for the LightDM GTK+ Greeter
Architecture : any
URL : https://launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings
Licenses : GPL3
Groups : None
Provides : None
Depends On : gtk-update-icon-cache lightdm-gtk-greeter python-gobject
Optional Deps : None
Required By : None
Optional For : None
Conflicts With : None
Replaces : None
Installed Size : 1052.00 KiB
Packager : Maxime Gauduin <[email protected]>
Build Date : Sat 30 Apr 2016 04:34:08 AEST
Install Date : Wed 15 Jun 2016 00:54:27 AEST
Install Reason : Explicitly installed
Install Script : No
Validated By : Signature
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>>55139252
You can use lightdm-gtk-greeter https://www.archlinux.org/packages/?name=lightdm-gtk-greeter

>>55139257
I use urxvt because I can add space between the lines making it more readable to IMO.
Else, stick with what is working for you.

>>55139257
You're the kind of guys that is changing changing the wallpaper and gets sour when people tell you it's shit? Or you're more a wannabe that keeps crying "stop liking what I don't like!!" cause you can't tweak your gui?
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>>55139190
>>55139242
Now I am completely lost
Atleast I got you somewhere
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>>55139312
>>55139281

already have it installed. tried going into the conf file and changing the variable background to
background=/home/paddy/Pictures/1452552535352.png

but nothing has changed.
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>>55139357
It's a gui though.
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>>55139403
that's odd. what's the gui called? I have both light dm and lightdm-gtk-greeter installed.
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>>55139441
lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings
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>>55139403
>settings

holy fuck I'm retared. thanks so much.need to read properly
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>>55139524
Glad I help.

(Shameful bump for my sound issue >>55134873 )
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>>55139548
have you tried pulseaudio ?
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I'm getting the message "Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switch" when I'm in a X session and change TTY and I can't go back to my X session, what do?
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>>55139586
No, I didn't tried on this machine.

I tried, a while ago, to have both pulseaudio and alsa on the same machine but I got caught in a clusterfuck and wasn't able to see what I was doing anymore.

On this machine, a thinkpad x201, running only alsa worked fine until it didn't.

I am afraid not to be able to control the sound from my gui and buttons on the keyboard anymore.
For the buttons, I add

# Mute
"amixer -q set Master toggle"
m:0x0 + c:121
NoSymbol

# VolDown
"amixer -q set Master unmute && amixer -q set Master 5%-"
m:0x0 + c:122
NoSymbol

# VolUp
"amixer -q set Master unmute && amixer -q set Master 5%+"
m:0x0 + c:123
NoSymbol

in my .xbindkeysrc so I'd have to find the new "way" to change the volume. For the gui Volume Icon it was a pain in the neck to tune and I feel like it is likely to make things worse.
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I've got NIC with ath9k driver. On windows my connections is two times faster than on Linux. How can I fix that on Linux?
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ah the woes of setting up a dual boot
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>>55133611
Is that a x200 or x201?
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How do I edit these files to turn amdgpu on, it just doesn't show up on Xorg.0.log
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lubuntu is awesome. My old x200 runs so much more smoothly after switching from windows 7, it's easy to use, and all the programs I use have linux versions and are working properly. It's like now the only reason to keep a windows partition somewhere is to play VNs.
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So when I startx with compton in my .xinitrc I get a black screen and I have to swap TTYs anything to appear on screen
Any ideas on how to fix this? I'm at a loss there

>>55140513
first try
glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer"


and post result here
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>>55140626
bash: glxinfo: command not found
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>>55140637
distro?
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Hello guys. I have a question that may mostly require opinions:

What is the advantage of CentOS/RHEL? Why do people and businesses use it?

I am working for a product that only officially supports RHEL/CentOS. It doesn't support Fedora because Fedora it is too bleeding edge and they don't want to keep up with every update. I find that every time a problem occurs or extra configuration is needed, it would probably be much more simple to fix in Debian-based distros.

I know that RHEL-based distros are free software only, but that can not be it. The product I work for is not free and has dependencies on non-free software, so obviously its target customers don't care about that. So what else is there?
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>>55140652
Arch on antergos
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>>55140652
your patience is admirable
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>>55140637
>>55140657
Too lazy to do
sudo pacman -S glxinfo
?
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>>55140657
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/glxinfo/

>>55140663
Well it IS a friendly linux thread
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>>55140677
==> ERROR: Failure while downloading ftp://ftp.freedesktop.org/pub/mesa/demos/8.3.0/mesa-demos-8.3.0.tar.bz2
Aborting...
==> ERROR: Makepkg was unable to build glxinfo.
==> Restart building glxinfo ? [y/N]
==> --------------------------------
==>
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>>55140704
is this a pacman error? pacman should take care of all this I think (not an arch user)
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>>55140742
pacman doesn't find glxinfo, that's the output from yaourt it can't connect to the ftp server, can I find the file somewhere else?
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>>55140704
try removing /etc/X11/xorg.conf, 20-radeon.conf and 10-amdgpu.conf
also print the output of lsmod | grep amdgpu
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What's a good distro for me?
>Never used desktop Linux before
>Windows babby since I was 2, used OSX past 2 years because windows computer bricked
>Only experience with Linux is Android
>Kind of a ricefag, but Arch seems overwhelming
>Don't really care about free software
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>>55133835
rxvt-unicode*
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>>55140829
>Kind of a ricefag, but Arch seems overwhelming
>Don't really care about free software
Manjaro or the GUI installer for Arch
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>>55140829
First time I tried arch I just mesmerized the installation process and had no idea what the fuck I was doing. I didn't learn what chrooting, mounting, and fstab were until I actually had an installed system to work with, so don't worry too much about the installation process for now. Just do a GUI install.
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>>55140829
I N S T A L L
G
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N
T
O
O
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Q. do you know how to read?
A:no: ubuntu
A:yes:
How much free time do you have?
A:not much at all: ubuntu
A:some: arch
A:many: gentoo
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>>55138720

>using yaourt and similar shit to install packages from the AUR
>doesn't even know how to remove unneeded packages

It's explained on the Wiki, in the pacman man page and elsewhere on the internet.
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>>55140764
Did all that, rebooted and that command shows nothing.

Also I saw this
>You need to compile a kernel with CIK support for amdgpu
but also saw other posts saying that compiling isn't necessary and you can use something called "linux-headers"
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>>55140829
>Ricing

I have never done ricing before so I'd like someone with experience to confirm, but can't you "rice" pretty much any distribution? It's just tinkering with your DE, no?
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>>55139357

Because the lightdm user has no permission to read your background file. Had you read the Arch Wiki article you'd know that.
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>muh read the arch wiki
literally hang yourselves
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>>55140829

>>Kind of a ricefag, but Arch seems overwhelming

Your distribution has nothing to do with "ricing". You can "rice" all distributions the same. Stop spreading misinformation and believing myths and memes you see on the internet.
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>>55141008

Enjoy asking a stupid question on here and waiting to be spoonfed when the answer is already out there, only a simple internet search away. Also, bump your "problem" post after 5 minutes, which seems to be popular nowadays.
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So I finally have a second laptop to play around with and so am going to check out some of the more hardcore distros, maybe even other *nix OS's. I'm going to try them all, but should I start with Arch, Gentoo or Slackware?

Also my live puppy CD is pretty dated, although I don't use it very much anymore it's comforting to have around. Which lightweight distros which run in ram are comfy and up to date these days? or should I just bite the bullet and make a tails USB.
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>>55140993
I've only been doing crap through Nova Launcher and KLWP on Android.
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>>55140990
It means the amdgpu kernel module isn't loaded
If you have installed the xf86-video-amdgpu package it probably means that you will either have to recompile your kernel yourself, or find why the module isn't loaded; is it even built? is it blacklisted?
try
modprobe amdgpu
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>>55141049
gentoo, if you have time on your hands for the installation and are rigorous it's the best distro
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I am on Debian.
I wanna change my ps1 by adding some colors,why is this one so complicated?
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>>55141076
modprobe only has "radeon.conf"
with
options radeon modeset=1
inside.
> is it even built?
What
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>>55140829
Why don't you care about freedom?
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I made a program in C and wanted to make a GUI.
I already know Qt and thought of using GTK+ to learn new stuff.
Should I use GTK+2 or 3 ? Does anyone have a nice tutorial ?
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>>55141103

Your distribution has nothing to do with your shell's PS1.
http://ezprompt.net/
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>>55141144
i am pretty sure ubuntu didnt have debian_Chroot and long prompt like this.Now ,i do understand the prompt after the } when it start with /u@ and so on but until that i dont.
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>>55141137

>Should I use GTK+2 or 3 ?
Why would you use a deprecated toolkit? Of course you should use GTK3.

>tutorial
The official one with the documentation.
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>>55141108
When you compile your kernel, the desired modules (and built-in functionalities obvs) are "built" (compiled), amdgpu is one of those modules
Did you run modprobe as root?

Try
lsmod radeon
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>>55141169
I didn't compile my kernel, I was just mentioning something I've read.

lsmod | grep radeon
radeon               1474560  4
ttm 81920 1 radeon
drm_kms_helper 114688 1 radeon
drm 294912 17 ttm,drm_kms_helper,radeon
i2c_algo_bit 16384 1 radeon
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Question:

Linux is GPL licensed, but it includes nonfree blobs.
How is this allowed?
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>>55141184
do you have https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/any/linux-firmware/ installed
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>>55141207
I guess those non-free modules are not part of the kernel itself, so the GPL doesn't apply for them. (Correct me if I'm wrong)
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>>55141224
No, what do I do after installing it?
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>>55141242
reboot
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>>55141253
Alright I rebooted it
[~@host ~]$ lsmod | grep radeon
radeon 1474560 3
ttm 81920 1 radeon
drm_kms_helper 114688 1 radeon
drm 294912 12 ttm,drm_kms_helper,radeon
i2c_algo_bit 16384 1 radeon
[~@host ~]$ lsmod | grep amdgpu
[~@host ~]$
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This is my PS1:
\[\e]0;\u@\h: \w\a\]${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:w\$

I got my PS1 from http://ezprompt.net/ ,now i know i must add on my bashrc folder but can someone tell me what i modify?
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>>55141232
>>55141207
Linus explains: http://yarchive.net/comp/linux/gpl_modules.html
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>>55141299
gedit ~/.bashrc
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>>55141327
ya but the ezprompt gave me without the debian chroot part.If i export it as i got it wont it replace the debian part too?
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>>55141296
try
sudo echo "blacklist radeon" >/etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf
 and reboot
before you do that, what's your GPU
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>>55141364
R7 260x, what's why I saw the "CONFIG_DRM_AMDGPU_CIK" thing
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>>55138614
>>55137751
We must go deeper.
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>>55141385
ok try that, reboot and post result. If you can't log in to X delete this file and reboot
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>>55133611
I have mint and I need to install visual studio 2010 for a class. I know how to mount the iso but I don't I ow what to do beyond that to install it with wine. Has anyone done this before? Any advice?
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>>55141334

Why don't you search the internet? It's all explained on there.
Do you use chroot often? Do you need to be informed about being chrooted within your prompt? If the answer is no, then you don't need that part.
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>>55141415
tell her you're vim masterrace and spit a huge phlegm on her face.
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>>55141429
anon,i dont know whats chroot.
I just finished that linux ommand line free ebook.My experience is limited with config files and how linux works behind.
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>>55141454
CHange ROOT
It creates a shell the specified directory as new root (/)
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>>55141403
I managed to get in but everything was glitched, managed to take a picture but everything was frozen like that and my conky lost the transparency, the browser opened but I couldn't scroll or change tabs, literally like everything was frozen.
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>>55141400
You can't do more then 2 layers
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>>55141565
It probably means that it used a fallback driver and not the AMDGPU one. I think you will have to recompile your kernel with AMD GPU support. I don't use arch so I can't help you
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>>55141676
Alright thanks man
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>>55132980
>>55133012
4chan does not require nonfree javascript. https://github.com/4chan/4chan-JS/blob/master/LICENSE
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Installed Ubuntu onto an ssd in a USB enclosure on my 2007 macbook. Problem is when I boot with option key to choose different partitions to boot from the USB ssd doesn't show up.

What do? I definitely chose the ssd as the target for the boot loader.
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>>55133611
What phone is that?

Also are you running some kinda ROM on it?
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>>55132911
>teach newfags wrong things
You are not telling them that other userlands exist, that can be used with the Linux Kernel.
Such as falloc, qlibq,busybox. Not informing them of the alternatives, is quite hypocritcal
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>>55139349
Didn't advanced much. I'll try again tomorrow. If I fail again, I'll go back to arch I guess.
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What's the UNIX equivalent of rufus? (https://rufus.akeo.ie)
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>>55141844
dd
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>>55141719
That's just the 4chan extension script license, retard.
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>>55141794
The programs you listed are extentions to be used in embedded systems, eg TVs and smart toasters.
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>>55142322
Yes? 4chan's javascript is freely licensed, and you can force the noscript captcha for Google's.
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>>55142359
extension buddy, extension
4chanJS extension
extension
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>>55142379
extension?
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>>55141706
Here, currently compiling my kernel for the first time, may god guide my hand.
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>>55142400
4chanJS extension, extending 4chan with 4chanJS extension to extend 4chan with 4chanJS' extension.
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>>55142351
Every alternative i listed, is used as a userland outside of emdedded system, such as daily desktop use.
Perhaps you could read up on them as alternatives, so you may be educated when you discuss them at a future date ,as you seem ill informed.
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>>55142359
>>55141719
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Does Linux have fragmentation?

Does Linux need to use TRIM on SSDs?

Does Linux have a registry?
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>>55142548
>defrag
Some filesystems have it(xfs) but no really
>trim
Yes
>reg
lolno
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Wtf should I do. My system started crashing after X amount of time. Bash commands give "segmentation fault" or "input/output error". Then the GUI just freezes and eventually kernel panic. Google says it's a corrupted drive or filesystem or some shit. I can't even copy my home folder to another drive without this shit crashing. Send help.
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>>55142560
So if I install a program on Linux, and then need to uninstall it, there will be ZERO (0) files on the ysteM?


Because when I do this on WIndows, there's always registry files left.
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>>55142576
The files will be deleted provided you used a package manager. if you did it out side of your manager,you may have files left over.
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>>55142471
You know, you're always free to create a Busybox/Linux thread and circlejerk there about RMS eating something from his foot.
Alternativly you could learn about the history of GNU/Linux and stop being buttblasted just because some faggot correctly interjected you.
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>>55142560
>lolno
lie
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>>55142576
Depends on your packet manager. Most packet managers offer the option to remove a program and also purge configurations seperatly.
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>>55142608
You are forcing new users to belive that gnu is the only option.This is a linux thread,you can have other userlands then gnu. Making threads for each subset, would be asinine.
Let them be informed and make their own choice.
Or do you want to force gnu on them so you get more stallman points?
>history
Linus waited for one userland to develope, it was slow he was defaulted to gnu.
30 years later,its stallmans only claim to the world. When he has done nothing since then to warrent acknowledgement.He wants to piggy back on Linus' success
Now he just posts asinine blogs on his website, like how he thinks peodphilia and necrophillia is acceptable.And is a massive hypocrite when his "ideology" is challened in every day life.
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>>55142608

You could join him in a joint "GNU/RMS/linux/non-GNU/ thread where there's only two of you wasting precious 4chan megabytes, without clogging up this thread with noise.
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>>55142711
I've seen better bait anon.
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>>55142758
Yeah, just deflect it.
True stallmanist. Completly unable to handle truths.

Linus writes beautiful code. He has published some side projects that he wrote all on his own and the code is just wonderful. He also lives in the real world while still maintaining his open source ideals and supporting himself through his work.

RMS is basically a homeless loser who hasn't made any real contributions in the last 20 years. He is still super butthurt that Linux beet HURD (but hey, HURD just got basic sound support in 2016!) and basically tries to claim Linux because Linus used GCC and the GNU coreutils. He survives on the charity of others and speaking engagements where he spouts his insane, paranoid, philosophy. Basically he won't be happy until all the programmers are homeless hackers like him and all the companies are shut down. How people are supposed to support themselves and their families in that scenario aren't things he has to deal with because he is basically a permanent grad student. He does make some good points about privacy, but for him, there is no middle ground. Anything that may reduce your privacy even the slightest bit (like movie recommendations on Netflix) is evil according to him, and must be destroyed. In a lot of ways he show classic signs of mental splitting, which is a classic symptom of mental illness. To top it off, when he does write code, he does so in the style of the awful GNU style guide which is a crime against humanity IMHO.

So, in a nutshell:
He's a bird-fucking, self-absorbed, power hungry, toe jam eating pedophile that thinks everything should be free and everyone should be forced to share, who looks like he hasn't showered in years so as to create a static shield around his body to protect from aliens. He also created an OS without a kernel because he's basically Steve Jobs gone communist. Oh, and he calls himself doctor though he holds no PhD.
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>>55142782
Old bait pasta is old. Give up finally. :^)
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>>55142359
>Being that much of a freetard that you can't even stand your browser running "proprietary" javascript.

What the fuck is wrong with this board? It's fucking javascript on a fucking webpage.
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>>55142782
Meh.
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>>55142792
>using the smiley with a carat nose
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How can I enable touch-the-touchpad-to-click?
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I'm trying to bulk convert all my jpg files to webp for space savings, but can't remove the second file extension. Any ideas?

find . -type f -iname '*.jpg' -exec cwebp "{}" -o "{}.webp" \;


I've previously used ${i%jpg}webp but this doesn't work.
I'm trying to avoid using xargs.
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>>55142871
Forgot to meention:

Generic SynPS/2 Touchpad running Manjaro Xfce
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>>55142792
>truthurts
>themoreyouknow
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>>55142794
>What the fuck is wrong with this board? It's fucking programs on a fucking computer.

Protip: saying "fucking" a lot doesn't help your case.
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>>55142958
Why not just convert them to a specified size and change the qualiy with imagemagick?
for file in *.jpg; do convert $file -resize YxZ -quality XX $file; done
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>>55142794
You don't execute javascript on a website, you execute it in your browser; a program running on your computer. Therefore it makes (basically) no difference if the source is a local executable or a script sent from a webpage. Sure, depending on the language, a local executable can be more powerful than javscript, but JS can be harmful enough.
Check this site for some basic tracking examples: http://panopticlick.eff.org/
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>>55143019
>click testing
>wait 5 minutes
>still testing
>wait 5 more minutes
>still testing
Oh right, i dont run shit i dont trust
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>>55143048
If you're the guy he replied to, that's the point.
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>>55142958
This should work with find via parameter expansion:
find . -type f -iname '*.jpg' -exec bash -c 'f={}; cwebp "${f}" "${f%.*}.webp"' ';'
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>>55142966

The latest synaptics driver update reverted an applied patch, making it stick to upstream's config which disables touch to click.
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>>55142966
Is it really this hard you retard?
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>>55143013
Doesn't offer the same kind of space savings, and I'd like to keep the original resolution.
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>>55143136
You cant compress compressed data.
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>>55143120
Friendly Thread
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>>55143019
No, you're not getting my point.

It shouldn't matter to you that a website's code is free or not.

1. You can check the source code anyway, because it's a webpage.
2. You're not gonna want to reuse it for your own purposes at any point.

There's a point past which being a paranoid freetard delves into social dysfunction, and I'd say you're there.

>>55143048
>Haha, my browser does not run scripts, therefore I have defeated this evil script which is meant to tell me how secure my browser is. Take that, the man

You're just really horny to tell people that you disable scripts, aren't you? It's like being a vegan: You have to suffer using a very limited subset of the Web, so people are going to have to suffer with you.
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- - - Friendly Line - - -

It's 100% friendly from now on
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>>55143201
No, I'm pointing out your entire argument is moot. Tests that test for security should have other options then just javascript. Otherwise it is worthless.
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>>55143097
Works perfectly after adding -o, thanks!

>>55143169
Do you know what webp is?
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>>55143234
>webp
Unless you have TIFF or RAW data, its already been compressed. Compressing it further is worthless.
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>>55143201
>what is obfuscated javascript
Also stop this "people who care about privacy must be retarded freetards" crap.
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>>55143234
Ayy crap, I forgot the flag. Anyway, glad it works, enjoy.
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>>55143283
>what is obfuscated javascript
The worst thing I have to deal with at work
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>>55143230
That's like saying you should be able to test a bulletproof vest with a kitchen knife.

>>55143283
>What is corporate liability
You can say whatever you want about privacy, Google is not a threat to your security. As for privacy, well guess what: You're using the board for free, so you're the product. If you're that afraid of penis pill ads, dish out the membership cost. You're not entitled to free open-source everything.
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This might be a stupid question, but keepass or keepassx? Now they're both multiplat so I don't know which one install...
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>>55143550
Neither.
You're decreasing your security 99%. It offers a single point of failure
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>>55143569
It's the first time I've heard anyone speak against password managers. Can you back up your claims?
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>friendly linux thread
>retards discussing muh free software muh free javascript
>being cunts to new people
>lol just read this 500 page wiki article
CLASSIC /g/
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>>55143613
I'll help you out if I can. I don't check the thread unless I have questions to post because I'm trying to get off 4chan.

Next OP should put more emphasis in the 'friendly' nature of the thread.

C&C3 was good, but having Cameron giving you orders made it even better.
>>
I installed Linux Mint with Cinammon. In the panel, everything with text (the Menu button, open windows, and the date/time) appears to have a second font behind it. It looks like it is a handwritten style font, and it appears to be cut off and buggy. I couldn't find any mention of this issue with google. When you hover over the items, the weird background font lights up with the normal highlight effect that happens. Is this a graphics driver issue? Or is this just a really bad theme design decision?
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>>55143608
If you have 50 password in your database,say your bank account, your hmo account,and various websites payment info. Assuming your passwards are secure(alpha numeric + symbols). That is fine, type them in when you use them.
But with a passord manager, you're putting ONE password on your databse.You then have to remember this password.If this password is stolen, you now have your entire password database exposed.
Its a single point of failure.

It is not hard to remember passwords
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>>55137307
Nice watch, just got one
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>>55137372
>Wow, you're such an unique and well rounded person, amazing how you project your soul and personality via an image, we approve you, you're g approved, amazing, you were validated, people look at your objects that other people created but you consume, you did well, amazing, you did so well buying things

Are you being sarcastic.

~tripfag
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>>55143674
>It is not hard to remember passwords
Maybe shitty passwords. You must be the only person that has some knowledge about tech and is still against password managers.

Let's use a simple example. We both have the same number of accounts and passwords to protect. You use your system and I use mine. My master password has the length of all your password together. Who's safer?

To anyone wondering, I'm going with Keepassx, since it looks nicer on KDE and doesn't need mono.
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>>55143761
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Getting kind of board with Java so I'm trying to learn a new language. Which is better: node.js or c++?
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>>55143814
Python
>>
Alright,i have an spare drive which has win 10,it's 250GB and 10 is eating 22.6GB,if i partitioned drive which distro could i put on it,i wanna learn something about loonix.
So no arch please
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>>55143812
My point still stands. Regardless of what kind of password you pick, you either have to choose between a password of strength 1 or n passwords of strength 1/n.
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>>55143877
Former Debian user trying Fedora atm. It's pretty sweet and everything seems to work out of the box. Just add the non-free repository (RPMfusion, I believe) and roll.
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>>55143883
No.
I easily have 20ish unquie paswords around 48-64 characaters long that are used for important reasons.
I dont care if some shitty forum i joined once to get a download and then never use again,gets a password that is only ever used as a throw away for these reasons.

I guess you milinials just cant retain long term data.Stuck in your instant now shit term life.

Password managers are a single point of failure that risks your security.
Simple as that
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>>55143860
why you recommend Python to anyone who isnt in the physics/engineering etc.. field?
This is the only reason you'd use Python ever.
Not to mention that is such a stupid language >"you dont have to learn how to do anything,we have a class/expression/function for that,so ya remember 10000 of those.
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>>55143979
>you dont have to learn how to do anything,we have a class/expression/function for that,so ya remember 10000 of those
isn't that the purpose of every library of every language ever?
anyway, everyone should know Python.
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>>55144055
Python is not for beginners,you arent actually learning anything there ,you are wasting time memorizing billions of declarations and functions .
Also,why should i learn Python?Give me 1 reason.
>inb4 automate stuff
fk off ,this aint an argument.
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>>55143452
>privacy and security are completly different things
>people have no right to know the code they execute at home
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>>55143812

Just so you know, this comic does get something wrong. When using this method, each character does not count as a bit of entropy as it normally would in a completely random password.

Because anyone trying to brute force a password has the ability to use dictionary attacks, each word is counted as one bit of entropy rather than each character composing it. Still actually works, but you need to have quite a few words for it to be secure at all.

TL;DR:
>?yh2
= roughly 4 bits of entropy
>CorrectHorseBatteryStaple
= roughly 4 bits of entropy
When using whole words, the individual characters composing it stop counting.
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>>55143937
>I easily have 20ish unquie paswords around 48-64 characaters long that are used for important reasons.
Congratulations on becoming average at something a database will do orders of magnitude better than you and your betters. Maybe you should focus in improving human skills, like not getting upset over a disagreement on the internet.

>I guess you milinials just cant retain long term data.Stuck in your instant now shit term life.
I would like to comment on this, but I don't even understand it fully and it's a 'friendly' thread.

>Password managers are a single point of failure that risks your security.
I guess that the security experts of the world and I disagree with you and there's nothing we can do about it.
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>>55143814
go node.js, it's just comfy as hell
>>
Does anyone know how do I change which kernel Antergos is going to load at boot?
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>>55144087
if i want to write a script that runs on any OS i write it in python
if i want to write a quick backend website to a simple form i write it in python/django
if i want to edit thousands of images i automate it (yeah i said it) with python/gimp
if i i have an simplex problem i solve it with python/sage
honestly i can go all day..
i can do all those with java. or even C. but python is so much simpler sometimes..
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>>55144120
Please look up actual cryptology before you continue to embarass your self.
Do you even umderstand how a dictionay attack works?

>>55144150
Are you this fucking dense?? Holy shit
How can you tall a SINGLE password viable to protect ALL your passwords?
Are you telling me you have your master password in a text file? Ok if it is PGP passworded ok,but now you have another password, AND a private key you have to manager.Oh lets put it in a new database.Oh well look at that. etc etc
SINGLE POINT OF FAILURE

>security experts
[citation needed]

Stallman is not an acceptable answer
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>>55144209
Or just use perl.
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>>55144209
>if i want to write a script that runs on any OS i write it in python
thats your problem.
>if i want to write a quick backend website to a simple form i write it in python/django
i fail to understand why you'd write a website in anything else except html if you aint working as web developer.
>if i want to edit thousands of images i automate it (yeah i said it) with python/gimp
only valid reason,
>if i i have an simplex problem i solve it with python/sage
thats your problem.
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>>55144210
Would you please finally stop trolling and fuck off. Thanks.
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Previously on: >>########

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We are always open to users of all levels, including absolute beginners.
In this thread you can ask questions about your GNU/Linux experience, We would if you ask kindly answer this question

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0) Install a GNU/Linux distrobution of your choice in a Virtual Machine using VMware, VirtualBox or other software made for this puporse for safety purposes.
1) Use the Live ISO (if your distrobution of choice has one) to boot directly into the GNU/Linux disrobution without installing anything, that way, you can get to experience the GNU/Linux operating system without installing it.
2) Dual boot the GNU/Linux distrobution of your choice along with Windows or macOS, this is recommended if you want to know more about the GNU/Linux operating system
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Before asking, please search for answers to your questions in resources.
Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.

Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe WINE or GNU/Linux only alternatives can make up for it.

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wiki.gentoo.org (Please see comment above)
wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux
wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux
prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux/
linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
www.gnu.org
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>>55144300
>no https'd links
dropped
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>>55144210
>WHAAAAAAA
>SINGLE POINT OF FAILURE
>WHAAAAAAA
Heh. Sorry I fed the troll, guys.
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>>55144210
>uses [citation needed] meme without providing citation for any of his own claims
>can't spell
>is actually this asspained with no provocation on a technology board

get help, friend
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>>55144288
>thats your problem.
i understand but i'm trying to say that python is extremely useful for all sorts of shit.
>you aint working as web developer.
sometimes i need to make a simple server API for my Java software.
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>>55144328
>VMware
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>>55144371
Not my burden of proof.
Ill just drop this one here, as its all there is to be shown

http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/07/severe-password-manager-attacks-steal-digital-keys-and-data-en-masse/
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>>55144382
Meant to quote >>55144300
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