Does the government maintain an archive of every website that you visit and all the information that you send on the internet?
So logs of all your chats, porn habits, shitposts on 4chan, etc.
Do they only do it for people on a 'list'? What do you need to do to get on such a list?
>>55127588
>Does the government maintain an archive of every website that you visit and all the information that you send on the internet?
>So logs of all your chats, porn habits, shitposts on 4chan, etc.
Yes, pic related.
>Do they only do it for people on a 'list'?
No, they do it to all traffic they encounter. No one is exempted.
>>55127610
How is that tinfoil at all you retard
>>55127640
This.
The director told a shitty story about seeing only a bunch of people at one time, while in reality it was wordplay.
They claim "storing" data of everyone not being the same as "seeing" the data.
Are the Jews lizard people?
>>55127588
>does the government maintain an archive of every website that you visit
Mostly, yes.
>all the information that you send on the internet
Not necessarily, but it would be safe to assume so.
>Do they only do it for people on a 'list'?
No, most of the bulk surveillance is mass-targeted, such as recording which websites everyone visits. They collect all the traffic that they can. However, some "selectors" do escalate what they record, so they'll end up actually retaining more details.
>What do you need to do to get on such a list?
That depends on the selectors they use. You're looking at this the wrong way around: they record everything they can (GCHQ for example use a 72-hour ring buffer of "full take feeds" i.e. literally everything that transits a network they're spying on, 3 days back), THEN they filter it. (They lie and say that such a thing doesn't constitute collecting everything. It obviously does, it's just a question of what they choose to then deem uninteresting and then throw away.)
Any such "list" would be the selector - search terms - they use.
Most of them are names, email addresses, phone numbers, IP addresses, and certain tracking cookie contents - but they also do often search for things which are several "hops" over from those (for example, phone numbers which call phone numbers, or IP addresses which post to the same board).
For example, you're now one hop from me, so you're on at least one list, if a case officer were to bother to search for that.
>>55127588
ITT
Prepare yourself for:
-not one single substantiated fact
-paranoid confirmation bias
-posers
But, here is the deal, all the bullshit you read or hear or whatever can be reduced to a few constants:
-You are one of millions of people sending and receiving content daily.
-No one cares about your specific porn habits
-No one cares about you at all UNLESS:
-You get algorithmic-ally (yeah i said it) flagged doing something very naughty, which still does not matter because NSA is actually in the earlier stages of technological development.
FACT:
NSA tracks info but is not fully capable of sorting it efficiently.
Other FACT,
larger corporations in general are more capable of sorting and using this information BUT, in this example, MICROSOFT has specifically created one of the most advanced tracking and for lack of a better term "sorting" systems EVER known. Guess what? they were shut out by the US government, which prompted them to set their servers in Canada. Microsoft has a system much more capable than the NSA.
Otherwise, to put simply because I really don't feel like getting into another one of "these" arguments by paranoid and greasy faced "experts".... The technology we have is great on an individual level, but we are still a bit in the dark ages compared to our imaginations. People are claiming so many false things these days and what does it amount to? FEAR MONGERING. Who is to be feared? The NSA, which is fairly advanced but not quite as much as anyone is MADE to believe. The bigger corporations have much more capabilities, less restrictions and one huge benefit.... Microsoft (again) has it's finger in the vag of almost every home in america, and pushing further into the world each day. Many years ago (same time) Microsoft released a notice about technology that allows a digital database (the INTERNET) to be automatically scanned for content that is predetermined to be illegal or illicit in nature (to be continued)
>>55127588
1. yes
2. all unencrypted
3. no
that's the problem
#Needle in a Stack of Needles
>>55130051
>>55129348
Good info
>>55130051
>because I really don't feel like getting into another one of "these" arguments by paranoid and greasy faced "experts"
hahahahahahahaha
the sad truth is, the NSA doesn't need to develop another capability as long as they're believed to be omniscient
it's probably a great resume item for crypto guys but there are better places to work probably
>>55130051
>ITT
>-not one single substantiated fact
>-paranoid confirmation bias
>-posers
so which one are you famalam?
>>55127640
Now that's just wasteful spending right there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV2HDM86XgI
its a bit over an hour long, but a good watch
>>55130127
NSA shill pls
Every link you ever clicked on.
Every comment you ever made.
Every conversation you ever had.
Its all stored forever in a neat little database with your name on it.
>>55130456
>citation needed
>>55129099
are they really tho?
>>55130051
(continued)
This technology was "disallowed" by the US government due to the "invasive nature". For example, the algorithm could be used to break down content on any connected device to determine systematically if there was illegal content. So what happened? Microsoft moved to Canada and also was "contracted" to securely store Canadian government data. It goes to show you the world is advancing as to be expected, big tech will be like big banks, "controlled" or "regulated" by the government but only as a measure to ensure the public does not believe these corporations are bigger than the regulating body of a particular country. I typically implore those that are really interested in the truth do some research for themselves, but read between the lines. Avoid "conspiracy" related articles and just browse the average everyday information and start researching to connect the dots. NSA is the least of your worries, because in the end, if you have a jar of pennies, there is no single penny in the jar worth more than another, EXCEPT if one of those pennies is capable of using all of the other pennies for personal gain. THIS is the technology you need to worry about, if you want to. I don't recommend worrying about anything in particular, again, no matter what, you are just another one of millions of individuals who do normal things every day. NSA may be evolving slowly, but their technology and utilization of said tech is still practically a fetus. Browse safely if you want, use a external encrypted hard drive to boot from a laptop you paid cash for and browse with a VPN on public wifi in a place without cameras. Otherwise, just use the internet like everyone else.. As long as you're not a legitimate high profile person or super criminal, your data is mostly used for advertising and testing of new monitoring systems.
>>55127588
I strongly suspect it is worse than anyone in this thread has claimed, and I shitpost in massive quantities just to make life a little more difficult for whatever alphabet agency is currently violating >muh freedoms and >muh constitution.
>>55130706
Yes
>>55130127
I think more specifically I am a poser.
Reason being, I really have no care for the subject other than for the arguments made by the "truther" types or people who just regurgitate information that other people have purported. It's like how in high school I created a small experiment regarding the potential chemical reaction present in the WTC, specifically regarding the presence of boiling aluminum exposed to sprinklers, creating what could be technically referred to as a hydrogen bomb. This experiment got me a scholarship, and guess what? The resulting backlash from ignorant truthers was ridiculous. Why? confirmation bias. I did not care about conspiracy theories but I did care about FACTS. Actually, not technically the facts themselves, but the intelligent interpretation of information to conclude substantial and reliable data. So yes, I am a poser of sorts, not exactly a hipster. I enjoy many subjects, but not necessarily the subject itself, but the intellectual experience and argument may present.
>>55130800
*an argument may present
>>55127588
Yes, just the US Government. They are the only ones on the planet who want to get at your info and browsing activity.
Yes, but they don't necessarily know how to sort it, it is hard to see where information is coming from, especially when using tor
>Does the government maintain an archive of every website that you visit and all the information that you send on the internet?
What the fuck do you think the NSA data facility in Bluffdale, Utah is all about?
Why do you think there was a worldwide glut of hard drives a few years back (protip: it wasn't because of the floods in Thailand - it was because the NSA needed about 7 million drives to get the facility working and it is live as of 2 years ago, has been 24/7 since and it does snatch every fucking bit including the ones that make up this post)
Pay attention, stupid.
Hi NSA. Gimme a job. I'll gladly take your money and sit in Hawaii. kthxbi
>>55127588
So if they do... what ?
>>55131379
>a worldwide glut of hard drives
i think you meant whatever the opposite of glut is
dearth?
>>55130800
Uh huh. So why doesn't that happen to all the other skyscrapers hit by planes?
>>55127588
>What do you need to do to get on such a list?
Searching for TAILS and reading Linux Journal :^)
Most of /g/ is already on some watchlist
https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/nsa-linux-journal-extremist-forum-and-its-readers-get-flagged-extra-surveillance
>>55131405
>HP, Oracle, IBM, Intel
>These are major enterprise Linux contributors
Linux confirmed for botnet
>>55131405
funny thing about taht qwest partnership...
>>55127687
It's not he's just a leftist sheep
>>55130456
Every link you take
Every post you make
I'll be watching you
>>55127588
FBI already has a mirror of 4chan after Moot went to court against the US gov over CP spam.
>>55133394
did he win
>>55134358
we all won :3
>>55132502
>leftist
You realize all republicans including your amazing trump support everything the nsa does, right?
>>55127640
totally cant confirm. Its totally only above ground... No deep ass bunker here..
but Im just a faggot, the fuck do I know
Probably.
Ever notice how porn sites never use HTTPS? It's always HTTP?
NSA knows your porn preferences.
