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Last Thread: >>55102322
>>55118794
Kill yourself you fucking degenerate pedophile
>>55118868
Love you too, bro!
Audio technica or GTFO
>>55118977
I wonder why the big three do not include an ATH. . .
>>55118977
Audiotechnica is nice for soundstage but that's about it. The new X line isn't much of an improvement. There are some that even prefer the 40X over the 50X.
>excited to get new pairs of cans in the mail
>open to find cheetos
t-thanks sonic electronix
>>55119065
Are those the "edible" packing puffs?
>>55119065
Eat one, post results.
>>55119071
>>55119073
taste pretty stale tbqh
>>55119065
Not that I'm suggesting you try eating them. They taste like wax if they are edible.
>>55119065
Where's the picture of your new cans?
>>55119065
Looks like a pretty big box. I hope they aren't some IEMs with all that packing material.
>>55119065
They didn't send you the cans? Just a box full of popcorn?
>>55119065
>1 of 1
>>55119088
>>55119115
>>55119186
Just these humble and comfy ones. They really made the package much bigger than it had to be.
Funny thing to note is that the cheetos were only in the top half on the package so unless they were stacking grand pianos on top of the cans the puffs did literally nothing lmao
>>55119260
Noice. How do you like the sound?
Another night another /hpg/.
>>55119275
Definitely a big (health) improvement over the garbage earbuds I've had in the past. The neutral response shocked me at first because of how soft some of the lows and highs had become, but I'm pretty inexperienced with listening so I can't form an educated opinion yet. Orchestral stuff sounds a bit off.
$200
US
PC
Over
Open
Max
Jpop, kpop, EDM
>>55119370
>Orchestral stuff sounds a bit off.
You'd probably be better off with an open set of cans over closed. Why'd you go closed?
>>55119397
You're look at cheap earbuds like the Piston 3 or KSC75. Filling out the form would be helpful but your options are pretty limited at that price point anyways.
What's good for $10?
>>55119407
>$10
>good
Pick one. You might try the EDR2 but chink shit is a risk between crap QC and knockoffs.
>>55118794
What's something good for $30?
>>55119427
Fill out the form.
>>55119384
HD598.
>>55119399
I admit for no good reason really. I plan to make these last forever so closed cans would fit my lifestyle more since I'm around people often.
>>55118794
What's something good for $70?
>>55119457
WTF? Do they not have vagisil in China?
>>55118794
What's something good for $45
>>55119397
TH02, Piston 3.
>>55119407
RPHJE120
>>55119427
>>55119486
E10
>>55119457
MK5, 7506.
Now, what's something good for $2000
>>55119519
>Now, what's something good for $2000
HD800S.
>>55119457
>that fucking webm
what the fuck
Why is wireless frowned upon?
>>55118794
What's something good for $9999?
>>55119457
Sennheiser HD202, MonopriceDJ.
>>55118794
What's something good for $2
>>55119542
Extra complexity, more shit to break, requires power, can suffer from interference, typically compromise sound quality due to compressing the source file and when it gets nearly as good as wired headphones it uses proprietary technology, all for extra cost.
>>55119519
Ether, Andromeda
>>55119548
009 with KGSSHV Carbon, KSE1500
>his """audiophile quality""" cables aren't dolphin veins rubbed with activated almonds
>>55119575
We generally suggest against such snake oil products.
>>55119564
Whatever you can pick up from the floor
what are the best headphones i can get from Best Buy, tryna use my discount famalaminos
>>55118794
What's something good for $16.78
>>55119624
AIDS
>>55119548
Shotgun mouthwash.
>>55119572
>009 instead of 007
trash
>KSE1500
trash
are these audiophile approved?
>>55119655
hahahahahaha
>>55119608
Beats Solo 2. Not even trolling.
>>55119680
>Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
Faggot OP of other thread spamming senses are tingling.
>>55119696
we dont get a great discount on beats, even still
>on-ear headphones
no thanx
>>55119704
Then you're fucked.
I guess Bose QC 25 if you carry those?
>>55119703
so does that mean you don't approve of my minions headphones?
>>55119714
we do have those and the QC35s which recently came out, get a bretty gud discount on those.
QC35s are 350 and around 240 with discount.
also we have some other stuff on our website i get a discount on, like sennheiser and audio technica
ATH-M50x goes from 169 to 129, for example
>>55118794
What's something good for $25?
>>55119747
The M50x seems like the better deal. See if they stock the 40x, same thing but cheaper.
What sennheiser models you carry?
I'm guessing it will be entry level shit
>>55119747
>ATH-M50x goes from 169 to 129, for example
Still overpriced while the XPT100 is around $100.
>>55119399
>>55119454
Yeah, I've pinned it down to the lack of soundstage that's making pretty much any song with live or orchestral elements sound lacking. It's definitely something to consider when picking open or closed cans. On the other hand music, particularly electronic, is no longer headache-inducing after 10 minutes, probably because of the neutral response?
Overall these headphones are still breddy gud. Closed and $80, and they do exactly what they claim to do.
>>55119680
>bright
>heavily colored
>only works with French music
It's shit.
>>55119568
Should be added to the wiki.
>>55118794
Yo /hpg/ I need some really simple stuff:
a cheap headphone for skype (at work) with decent audio quality for music (zoning out of office noise)
>http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM
>Budget
Some 40-50€, don't need audiophile gear
>Location
Italy/Europe
>Source
3-way jack (stereo + mic)
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
I'd prefer to be able to wear them for at least a couple of hours
>Preferred tonal balance
no preference
>Preferred music
All things instrumental, form classical to stoner metal to idm
>Past headphones
Sony MDR-V150 (comfy, pretty old at this point)
Brainwavs beta & delta (decent cheap IEMs)
random cheap bluetooth gear for Teamspeak
Thanks in advance, /hpg/
>>55118794
What's something good for $3?
>>55119859
No wait, I also got Bluedio Hurricanes for black friday (since I didn't have a bluetooth set for the smatphone, I use them to listen to podcast on the commute sometimes)
Actually, if I can't find anythng, I can try that for skype.
>>55119888
>>55119904
How are the hurricanes?
so what if we make headphones digital instead of analog
so we can cut the middle man that is the dac and switch to entirely digital
>>55118794
What's something good for $650?
>>55119941
>so what if we make headphones digital instead of analog
How would you do that? Every driver for sound in both headphones and speakers use analog signal.
>>55119771
we have them, there's a pretty bad review of them though, but i wouldn't put much faith in a best buy customer review lmao, they're pretty dumb overall.
we don't actually carry sennheiser in-store, only online so i don't know every model, but we have some higher grade ones from Magnolia and some more consumer-grade ones. don't want to spend $500+ right now though so i'd probably look more in the consumer ones.
>>55119965
we put digital drivers
>>55120004
Why not put in unicorn horns too?
>>55119914
Decent for 30€ (black friday price)
They have incredible features at that price: buetooth, microsd-reader, fm-radio, and attachable cable, so you can listen to music even if the battery is dead.
They're decently comfortable
The buttons are fucked up if you use them for anything else than bluetooth.
The 52mm drivers give bass a good presence, but the overall quality is, well idk, not an audiophile and never had expensive gear, I think it's decent for 30€
tl;dr: decent for the price
They should have some new models by now, tho
>>55120010
How's sounds quality?
Vocals? Highs? Bass?
Please anon, I need to know
>>55120051
I'm sorry bro, I just can't offer reliable advice.
Have this: it's both good (good enough for me) for a podcast and for the rare occasion when I have a joint and phase out with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vpOHq8bkzA it gets me a fine trip
>>55119384
K702
>>55119065
>cans
> lots of people unironically say that bass is the most important thing in music
> lots of people deliberately choose warmth and veil over detail and clarity
> lots of people don't even wonder why the best headphones are somehow bright
Hopefully all these people will be happy to spend money to listen to sound walls.
>>55121022
>lots of people deliberately choose warmth and veil over detail and clarity
>implying the two are mutually exclusive
>>55121113
They are though. You can't have clarity and warmth in the same headphone.
> inb4 HD600
Error 404: Clarity Not Found
>>55121144
>They are though. You can't have clarity and warmth in the same headphone.
[citation needed]
At least you made your idiocy clear instead of an implication. You might as well claim you cannot have bass and clarity as well.
>>55121169
>At least you made your idiocy clear instead of an implication. You might as well claim you cannot have bass and clarity as well.
By definition, yes, you cannot. If you imply the contrary, you should review your definition of idiocy as well.
Do headphones have to be "for professionals" to be good? I just want something balanced that is meant for just listening. None of that DJ crap.
>>55121220
>By definition
By whose definition?
>>55121238
>Do headphones have to be "for professionals" to be good?
Usually headphones marketed as "for professionals" are just that, marketing.
>>55121220
*chirp**chirp*
*chirp**chirp*
That's what I thought. It seems you are functioning under some grave misconceptions. Let's just borrow the definition of the term warm from head-fi's glossary for describing a sound.
>Good bass, adequate low frequencies, adequate fundamentals relative to harmonics. Not thin. Also excessive bass or mid bass. Also, pleasantly spacious, with adequate reverberation at low frequencies. Also see Rich, Round. Warm highs means sweet highs.
Clearly no contradiction to clarity based upon this definition. Nor is there in regards to bass, mid- and sub-bass included as they have their own clarity or "texture." For example, low clarity/resolution bass is bloated or muddy. You can have nice tight and textured bass, Etymotics are infamous for this, and some prefer that but you can have good impact as well as tight and textured bass, like say, since I went with Ety IEMs, with the MA750.
>>55121244
Every person having a slight knowledge of English vocabulary.
>>55121414
>my definition is everyone's definition!
If you cannot provide anything authoritative or at least can be plausibly construed as coming from more than just your personal opinion, I'm left to assume all you are going to do is argue in circles.
>>55121400
> taking head-fi glossary as a reliable source
Thanks for the laughs.
> excessive bass or mid-bass
> no contradiction with clarity here
Indeed.
It's true that any frequency has its own texture, but a warm/bassy sound signature covers lots of details elsewhere in the frequency range, then it can't be considered as a properly clean and clear sound.
>>55121440
Take an English dictionary and check it out by yourself.
>>55121513
>arguing in circles
Gods it almost hurts to be right so often.
>>55119542
>>55119823
It has more to do with thick-headed audiophiles clashing with novices stubbornly asking about things that don't have many good options. This is like the situation with active noise cancelling headphones, another feature that the wider market wants, but tend to be on poorly designed headphones.
Wireless audio itself isn't so bad. It doesn't have to be bad for acoustics either. The lack of good options tends to lead to a conflation of issues.
It doesn't belong in the OP.
>>55121256
Well I brushed off that marketing word when I got the sennheiser HD 25 which is one of the headphones recommended from one of the links and obviously wasn't for just listening for entertainment. The cord is long, the jack doesn't fit tightly to the phone and the printed materials was against using it for just listening to music.
>>55121848
>Wireless audio itself isn't so bad
Yes. Yes it is. All it does is make the personal audio experience worse in almost every way except convenience.
>>55121868
>source
>my ass
>>55121880
Would you like to address the problems with wireless brought up in >>55119568
>>55121880
Well after waiting for ten minutes or so I'm going to assume you've got nothing.
Wireless headphones are less dependable due to the extra complexity. Less sturdy due having more shit to break. Less reliable due to power requirements and possible interference. Worse performing in regards to sound quality. Arguably less comfortable due to the extra weight. And worse price wise. All that for the convenience of not having a single wire.
>>55119859
Bump, plz
Are the Sennheiser momentum in ears any good? Am considering purchasing them.
>>55119648
>007 instead of 207
trash
Looking for some real good quality stuff
>Budget
€200~
>Location
EU
>Source
PC and phone (usb works)
>Open or closed
Closed, but if open offers more quality then that is fine
>Comfort level
Mid, don't want something that hurts my head.
>Preferred music
Jpop, EDM
>Past headphones
Cloud II, Astro A50, both gaming headphones with a shitty mic attached. The A50 was shit but very comfy while the Cloud II was meh. Looking for better sound.
>>55122091
>Less sturdy due having more shit to break.
Cable break or circuit break. The cables should be designed around being reinforced at strain points while the circuitry should be inside the enclosure. Cables are rarely ever rugged enough in practice, and particularly at the low range.
>Less reliable due to power requirements and possible interference
Wireless headphones commonly have analog bypass cables, so they still are usable as wired headphones.
The interference and transmission distance will vary, but if you are just going to keep the transmitter and receiver on your person, signal strength is going to be steady.
>Worse performing in regards to sound quality.
It's not better than any carefully manipulated wired headphone. It couldn't be.
Headphones have a screwy response, so DSP can be used to adjust the FR, and the vendors can piggyback on the hardware needed for wireless audio in the first place.
>And worse price wise
Sure. You also asked for an extra feature. The prices demanded can vary from a token addition to a twice the cost of the headphone, but that's how audio prices are.
>>55121903
>typically compromise sound quality due to compressing the source file and when it gets nearly as good as wired headphones it uses proprietary technology, all for extra cost
Lossy coding doesn't have to be a significant factor in audio quality, there many things better managed than high bitrate mp3, which can already be sufficient. At some point, the criticism of lossy audio is more philosophical than practical.
Bluetooth SBC coding serves as the Bluetooth baseline, but headphones with aspirations of being good include support for other codecs.
AAC isn't particularly proprietary. It is also optional in the Bluetooth A2DP spec, but most receivers include support.
aptX for Bluetooth is proprietary, but most Bluetooth devices include support.
Kleer is a lossless only audio streaming and transmission method, and hasn't made significant inroads.
>>55119524
>HD800S
Literal garbage inaccurate meme headphone.
>Budget
below 150$
>Location
EU
>Source
PC and phone, TRRS preferred because I dislike taking out my phone to answer it, especially on a bike
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
I found brainwavz R1 too big and uncomfortable, rarely got proper seal with these.
>Preferred tonal balance
included below
>Preferred music
I listen to so many different kinds of music, I can only write which type I have the most: metal and vocaloid (lol)
>Past headphones
creative ep630 and 830
liked them at first but using them was super tiring. Like after 30min to an hour and I had enough of them. Back then I hardly knew anything better, and at my age at that time, bass was everything.
brainwavz delta
I liked these for the price a lot, but I the bass was very weak. Once they broke, I started looking for something with more of it.
Decided to get:
brainwavz R1
Both these and delta sound felt a bit, harsh I guess. There was too much bass tough, and it felt like certain mid range sounds were lost or behind too much. I only noticed it when I tried my next purchase, which was the most expensive iems I ever bought:
westone um10 pro
I also tried w10 ones, but these felt like the bass was so strong it nearly hurt.
um10 on the other hand separated instruments very nicely, which made huge impression on me. I love how vocals sound on these, but whenever I listen to something heavier(metal etc) it seems like the detail and clarity is lost, because of how smooth the bass is - I have no idea how to describe it better, it's like the drum and bass guitar merge with each other. But what bothers me when this happens is that the sound of drum plates becomes hardly audible during it.
I'm looking for IEMs that sound similiar to um10, but don't forsake plates when music is faster and heavier. I will visit an audio shop that let's me test most of the stuff beforehand, but I still need at least a list of what to ask for and compare, and what to look out for while listening.
Hello! How are you? Are you enjoying your headphones? Masterrace is speaking.
>>55118794
So /hg/
Design me your dream set of cans no limits beside it should be actually possible with current tech
So what is it?
my SRH840 just broke... I'm gonna try to superglue it back together.
it (still) sounds great but the headband quality apparently isn't that good. I've had this pari for roughly 4 years or more and I'm just not ready to let it go
>>55123115
L-700
>>55123135
It's L700, mate. Hyphen doesn't belong.
Triggered my fucking autism.
All headphones are a rip off. There isn't a single one worth the price.
>>55123330
good thing you aren't forced to buy any if that's what you think
Guys, I'm sitting in an office all day long, I need really comfy headphones. Don't really care about quality, what should I get ?
I'm considering selling my K7xx, since a lot of people have suggested that they're not of the quality that should be expected at this price point and I would not be down very much. I already have a solid amp I picked up on the cheap, so any side grade would be fine.
Would it be worth getting DT880s or HD600s instead, since they seem to be the other big recommendations in this bracket, or is the drama mostly from AKG users who are averse to bass increases?
I mostly listen to drone, industrial and noise, but every kind of music gets its playtime. I would also watch movies and everything else with the same pair.
>>55119608
You can use that discount online to order real headphones. Got my HD600s that way. They are considered 'magnolia' headphones.
>>55123634
>I'm considering selling my K7xx, since a lot of people have suggested that they're not of the quality that should be expected at this price point
That's just FR to taste, a few rounds of EQ away. If you don't have any problem with what you have, why are you bothering?
>is the drama mostly from AKG users who are averse to bass increases?
Since there aren't fixed usernames, I don't know well who owns and says what. There are at least a few people in that mindset.
>>55122884
First thought is that you want something with less upper bass/low mid.
Second thought is maybe more high mids-treble added. That goes against the Westone sound.
>>55123634
K7XX has an unnecessary bass boost over the K702/Q701 imo, nonetheless it's a very good heapdhone. Neither the DT880 nor the HD600 can be considered as straight upgrades over it. Keep your K7XX, enjoy their sound and stop watching this thread.
>Budget - $50
>Location - Midwest
>Type - in ear
> Comfort - not a big priority just so long as it doesn't feel like I'm jamming nails into my ears
>Music - psychedelic rock/ pop
>Past - sennheiser cx 300 ii
About 150 USD
Australia
Dac
Full sized
Closed Back
Comfort that can last me muh gaymur binges
Preferred music:
Melodic house
Alt
Generally chill music youd expect made by Avicii or Kygo
https://youtu.be/mmvf_zDLXKc
https://youtu.be/FYyCbKZIkgc
https://youtu.be/m-M1AtrxztU
https://youtu.be/ip4Q1pbrYDg
My only past headphones are logitech gaymur ones and they suck ass hence why im here /hpg/
>Budget
$70 ~ $100.
>Location
Brazil.
>Source
Computer.
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-Sized, maybe?
>Open or closed
Closed.
>Comfort level
I don't care.
>Preferred tonal balance
>Preferred music
Techno.
>Past headphones
Superlux HD681.
I need a headphone to be at maximum "R$500" (currency here) and for a matter of comparision, I will let you know some of the headphones I'm considering and the respective value between the prices here and America (that you already know):
Superlux HD681 EVO: R$300.
Philips SHP9500: R$340.
Philips Fidelio L1: R$699.
Help me, /hpg/.
>>55123634
>>55124436
>>55124448
I am one of the people that posted "k7xx drama". There were multiple people responding to me that sounded distinct, but there are definitely at least two of us.
I have a fair bit of prior experience with / ownership of good headphones, including AKGs. Maybe you can say some of the complaints are subjective, but AKG switching around so much stuff and alienating their usual sound is very worrisome. I've honestly lost faith in the company, and need to be convinced once again afresh to trust them.
>>55118794
ayyyyyy
>Budget:100 Euro
>Location:Eu
>Source:Phone
>Preferred type of headphone:In-ear
>Comfort level:not priority
>Preferred music:Indie/Psychedelic/Rock
>Past headphones:Sennheiser cx-300 II/Piston 2/Urbanears Kransen/Lg Quadbeat 3
>>55119323
Indded, Anon.
>>55119384
>>55122398
K7xx is going for 199$ on Massdrop, but that benefits from an amp.
alternativelly i think L2 does comes close to the big three and it doesn't require amping at all, but it's a warm signature.
>>55122984
>nice detail
>no presence/bass
>master race
Na, bow to the akg god that is the k712
>>55123634
m8 the 702s are brilliant but the fact that is they're as flat as a pancake, listen to any rap song and you'll see that straight away. I sold my 702's for the k712's (mainly for more bass whilst keeping the wide soundstage and great detail) and I don't regret it at all. It's actually satisfying listening to music now, and I mean in general, I mostly don't listen to rap.
Which hybrid amp under $1k besides Schiit Mjolnir 2 should I consider?
Bonus points for single XLR output
>>55124869 Here.
http://www.head-fi.org/products/audio-technica-ath-m40
I think I will go with the ATH-M40 for R$630. A little more than what I was thinking on spending, but that's okay.
What do you guys think? Better options? This will do for the heavy bass Techno sound?
>>55124869
Que tal o Fidelio L2? É mais flat que o L1 e saiu relativamente barato na Kabum.
http://www.kabum.com.br/produto/58870/headphone-philips-fidelio-l2-over-ear-com-microfone-l2bo-00/?tag=PHilips%20l2
Uma alternativa seria comprar um headphoneusado nos classificados do HT Forum, já comprei lá também, sempre tem variedade de modelos e preços justos, sem falar que a maioria dos vendedores são audiófilos e mantém os fones em ótimo estado.
>>55124969
MDR 7506 perhaps?
>>55125451
bonus points if you go back 2 reddit
>>55123634
Keep your headphones. Why does it matter what a bunch of literally autistic manchildren on /g/ think of your purchase?
>>55125523
>
>>55125471
Good choice, get the M40X. M40 is the older version without detachable cable. If you want to increase comfort you can buy the HM5 pads.
>>55124969
>>55124452
What did you think of your previous in-ears?
>>55124869
What do you think of the 681 EVO?
>Preferred music
>Techno
You really do?
>>55125451
>hybrid amp
>XLR output
Why do you care about these aspects?
>tfw I fell for the m40x meme
They're very comfy but the build quality is horrendous
>>55125945
It might not seem like much now, but next month they'll look like this
Just got an o2+odac
headphones that need the juice haven't yet arrived.
on my current cans, a brief listening test finds no difference, other than removing some bullshit crackle/interference my laptop has that I need to fix.
anyone want to sell me some gold-plated usb cables?
>>55118794
I want to upgrade my 702's and i'm looking at either the hd600 or the 650, the price difference between them isn't an issue.
Which one is better and why, Do either of them come close to the 702 in detail and soundstage?, i'd like something similar to the 702s but with a touch more bass and less piercing highs.
>>55125992
you should wait for someone with first-hand experience to comment, but for now I'll say: 600 is the neutral one, 650 is "warmer"/"funner"
>Budget
Up to $100 but preferably as cheap and good value as possible
>Location
Canada
>Source
Phone, will be using outside a lot
>Type
Full
>Open or closed
Don't care too much
>Comfort level
Prefer more but can live with less
>Tonal balance
Neutral as possible
>Music
Jazz, electronic
>Past headphones
Simple no-name earbuds
>>55125967
Wait till you get your new headphones obviously.
>>55124943
> AKG switching around so much stuff and alienating their usual sound is very worrisome. I've honestly lost faith in the company, and need to be convinced once again afresh to trust them.
AKG hasn't been alienating their usual sound, except for the K712, which is infact considered by many people as the worst open AKG. Both K701/K702/Q701 and, to a certain extent, the K612 are close to the classical AKG sound and they are actually as good as, if not even better, than most glorious "vintage" AKG. The only thing that AKG changed lately is some fabric/material details, but for the rest their headphones are good. K7XX is just a K702 with a bit more bass below 100 Hz, which for some people may be a positive thing. I think that you're getting carried away too much by what people say here.
>>55125223
> no bass
Compared to K712, but K712 is definitely too bassy.
>>55125992
>I want to upgrade my 702's and i'm looking at either the hd600 or the 650, the price difference between them isn't an issue.
Neither HD600 nor HD650 is an upgrade over K702.
>Which one is better and why,
HD600, it's more neutral, aka more balanced.
> Do either of them come close to the 702 in detail and soundstage?
No
> , i'd like something similar to the 702s but with a touch more bass and less piercing highs.
Then stay away from the HD650, it's the opposite of the K702. HD600 has slightly less sub-bass, definitely more mid-bass, less emphasis on mid-highs and it's smoother in the treble area. Before buying a different headphone, I suggest to EQ your K702 a little.
>>55125729
The sennheisers are really good for their price
Very high quality
IS THERE MORE
>>55125750
>hybrid
because tube rolling is fun, but I don't want a pure tube amp. Most are too warm for my taste.
>XLR
It would be nice to have balanced output since I have headphones that included balanced XLR cables. It's fun to play with different set-ups.
>>55126493
I appreciate your reply but it seems that maybe you love your 702's too much so I have to take your opinion with a pinch of salt although I fully understand your love for them. My 702's are fantastic when it comes to detail and soundstage but they're too flat and harsh imo. I was hoping to pay more money for the hd600 or 650 to give me something similar but with a bit more weight/bass.
The right driver in my DT880s is rattling. Do you think I can get a replacement from Beyerdynamic?
So, I decided to pick up JDS Labs O2 amp.
My question is is it worth it without a DAC? Or should I save up and pick up single complete unit?
Current Headphones - AKG 702
I'm open to any other suggestions
>>55127785
Try to get at least a Fiio E10k to use its dac, still much better than whatever dirty audio your motherboard is outputting. If you already had a sound card it might not be necessary
>>55127772
if you have warranty yes. they'll probably replace your pads for you too
>>55127785
It depends if you on board sound makes a noise/hiss or not imo. I own the o2 amp and a cheap sabre dac which cuts out the hiss fro my on board. I can't be bothered to get into details as I do this nearly every weekend when someone asks about my setup.
>>55127818
Bought them in September 2014. Apparently they're within warranty.
Is Lepai LP-2020A still the go to cheap but ok/good amp? My current amp is going to my new floorstanders, so need a somewhat cheap replacement.
pretty good setup
>>55127922
Yes, SMSL SA-36 is also an option if you want something good looking. It's not much more expensive.
>>55126145
MDR 7506 or M40X
>>55127984
>192/32
Now that's a meme.
>>55128003
Thanks for the suggestion, seems like a good alternative.
>>55122551
First is untouched so established.
>Cable break or circuit break.
Latter applies to both equally. Former is valid.
>Wireless headphones commonly have analog bypass cables
Making them wired headphones and defeating the benefit of wireless.
>It's not better than any carefully manipulated wired headphone.
Then it is established that wireless are generally worse performing.
>Sure.
Price, comfort, performance, etc. In almost every way wireless headphones are worse than wired except for comfort. Glad that was established.
>Lossy coding doesn't have to be a significant factor in audio quality
>don't have to be
Just like driving a car "don't have to be" polluting but it is.
>AAC isn't particularly proprietary.
AAC is a trasmission compression like AptX is?
>>55128416
>First is untouched
I don't see a worthwhile distinction.
>Then it is established that wireless are generally worse performing.
Ideally they are the same. In practice, it can go either way.
DSP can improve on balance way past what any acoustic design can manage. Headphone correction is not exclusive to ANC/wireless, but they can be set up so that can have a near idealized response from the get go, considering the requisite hardware, before user input.
>Price
I don't see this as a fair critique to make. If you want more components and more features, you would normally expect to pay more.
>Making them wired headphones and defeating the benefit of wireless.
It's only for the purposes of backup operation. The battery life on sets is generally long enough that wiping it out in less than a day is unlikely.
>Just like driving a car "don't have to be" polluting but it is.
I do not follow. And as an aside, I have never seen a car analogy that made sense either.
Lossy compression can sound the same as the original track. It often does at high bitrates with modern codec, and if it doesn't sound the same then, it is a minute difference.
>AAC is a trasmission compression like AptX is?
It can be used by Bluetooth that way.
Is the XPT100 sturdy?
What does /hpg/ think of Zeos / Z Reviews?
Found him today he seriously sound like a long-lost twin brother with a vast knowledge of hentai and animu and seems to have had his hands on just about every headphone that matters
His advice good or is he too basement modo?
The Stax 2170 review was also hilarious I never laughed so much during a review of anything his way to talking is just funny
>>55129466
he won't tell you anything that measurements can't tell you to a more accurate degree
also literally a redditor
>Budget
£100
>location
UK
>source
Phone and PC
>type
full
>open or closed
Closed since will be using them in public a lot
>comfort level
don't mind as long as both ears feel the same unlike my last pair
>music
alt rock, electronic, rap
>past headphones
sennheiser HD751G's I impulse bought on break at work
has anyone ever figured out how to stop your computer chair from rolling over your headphone cable?
>>55128058
i am a living meme
>>55129870
by getting a shorter cable
>>55129870
remove your computer chair wheels
>>55129256
>I don't see a worthwhile distinction.
Sounds like a personal problem.
>In practice, it can go either way.
In practice it is going to go worse as people do not plan on the their entire audio chain working on one standard.
>I don't see this as a fair critique to make.
It is as much a feature as a screen door is on a submarine.
>It's only for the purposes of backup operation.
Then it is established as being worse as at best, if they come with it, they can be almost as reliable as wired headphones.
>I do not follow.
Your presentation was fallacious. Just like the above ideal is not the same as in practice.
>It can be used by Bluetooth that way.
Got a source for that or are you confusing the source file compression with the transmission compression? I don't recall bluetooth using AAC to compress an audio signal into digital format to transmit to wireless bluetooth headphones.
>budget
at absolute most $150
>location
the U S of A dog bless
>source
directly into my PC. (if you think I'll need a sound card, please recommend me one)
>open or closed
either is fine, open would probably be preferable though
>preferred tonal balance
i really don't know. i'm a big n00b when it comes to audio, but it'll be for playing games and listening to music at home if that helps.
>preferred music
rap, some edm, anything that sounds good really. wide range.
>past headphones
ATH-m20
I've more or less settled on the ATH-m50x, but I'd like /hpg/'s advice first. The AKG headphones look nice but I can't find one in the price range I'm in.
>>55130591
HD598
Question
I do a lot of gayming on handhelds (3DS and Vita) but the headphones jack is absolute shit in both.
Now my question is, would I benefit from getting a DAC? I'm guessing only certain devices support a DAC since the output on the headphones is already analog.
If the answer is no which amp should I get to increase the max volume and drive my headphones properly?
>>55130591
DT990 is probably your best bet considering the genres you like
>>55130668
Ignore this shill
>>55130690
DT990 has eardrilling treble and is above his budget.
>shill
Thanks for the classic version of an ad hominem fallacy.
>>55130669
Can you connect a DAC (usually USB) to a Vita/3ds? If not the question is kind of moot.
>>55118794
>>>/a/
Dumb weaboo
>>55130791
Welcome to 4chan summerfag.
>>55130690
genre doesn't really matter too much for me as i listen to most everything except classical
also, that's about $10-20 over 150, at which point i could get a pair of AKG Q 701s, do you recommend anything else?
>>55130820
Stupid weaboo.
>>55130839
So you're just a newfag complaining about an anime-centric site having anime images? Glad that was cleared up.
>>55130872
>anime centric
No, it's an image board with an anime containment board you stupid shitposter
>>55130939
>No, it's an image board
How do you come to that conclusion? From the start, when moot created 4chan to discuss anime with his friends online, to today where the owner is the same guy who runs 2channel and NicoNicoDouga?
It's okay to be an idiot here, even expected (see pic), but expecting anyone to take you seriously in the face of overwhelming facts to the contrary is ridiculous.
>>55130991
You're the idiot. It's an image board with containment boards for anime, technology, diy, etc.
Regardless what you dumb fucks want to believe, that's what it is now.
Weaboos too fucking retarded to understand that I suppose.
>>55130991
>moot made 4chan for anime
Moot is gone you autistic fuck
>>55131073
No shit? Did I not, IN THE SAME SENTENCE, point out:
>to today where the owner is the same guy who runs 2channel and NicoNicoDouga?
Holy fuck the stupid is strong with 4chan this summer.
>>55131105
Sure is summer.
>>55131051
How many of the boards are anime "containment boards" on 4chan? Just looking at the primary list of /a/ through /wg/ it would appear to be MOST OF THEM?
I'm done responding to a closed-minded idiot who disregards inconvenient and overwhelming facts.
>>55131116
>Oh shit! I failed at basic reading comprehension. I better call him a summerfag just like he called another and hope no one notices!
1/10. You got two posts out of me for your weak trolling.
>>55119043
The 40x is objectively better than the 50x
XB950 with this eq sound amazing
>>55125945
>>55125964
Loll ive never had any problems with mine before
>>55131269
Kind of reminds me of that one guy and his quest against "snapheisers."
>>55131257
no one cares about your opinion and your eq is crude and shitty
>Budget
$50 - $200
>Location
USA
>Source
Laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-the-ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Max comfy
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Preferred music
Classical, Electronic
>Past headphones
HD598 (love), ATH M50 (meh)
Help /g/ ; -;
>>55132285
DT770
>>55131140
>>>/a/ stupid weaboos
>>55131163
>>55132304
The price on these just jumped 50. Worth waiting for them to drop back to 135?
>>55132359
>Worth waiting for them to drop back to 135?
Maybe. They've been out for a long time and the price goes up and down with demand so you might be waiting a while.
>>55132304
>>55132285
Any other recs?
So I had a pair of Sennheiser cx 985s for like 3 years and I loved the sound and look, but there are only like a handful left for sale so they are like twice what I paid for them. Can anyone recommend a pair of earphones with as sturdy of a jack that looks and sounds good enough for daily music listening via smartphone. I'm thinking something <$150.
I'm a newfag
>$200
>US
>smart phone
>iem
>/mu/ core
>Sennheiser cx 985
>Budget
150-200 usd
>Location
Merica
>Source
Straight into comp
>Preferred type of headphone
Fulls-Sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
The cumfier the better
>Preferred music
Electronic/ 90's Hip hop
Alright I'm pretty new to this headphone shit what get?
I was looking at the Beyerdynamic DT 770 PRO I don't know if those are any good.
Dumb fucking weaboos
$30
U.S.A
Phone
Earbuds
Noise Isolating (they're gonna be used at school)
>I already looked at the piston 3's, and they don't seem to have good noise isolation.
>>55133265
And I forgot, they're gonna be used for primarily rock and edm. Thanks /g/ents.
>>55133293
Fuck off with your disgusting taste in music
>>55133302
Y-you too
>>55133316
Stupid weaboo.
>>55133332
Y-you too, desu
>>55133006
>>55133050
Assuming you're the same anon.
MA750
>>55133265
Piston 3
Beware knockoffs.
>>55133437
ty and yes I am
OP here, how's the noise isolation? I don't want to hear other people in the cafeteria or at pep rallies. And gaybest only sells the legit ones right? I really don't want knockoffs.
>>55133437
Any other ideas? I don't like the behind the ear stuff.
>>55133449
>>55133485
Sorry
>>55133265
$9 more and you can isolate a nuclear explosion.
https://www.amazon.com/Etymotic-Research-ETY-Kids5-Safe-Listening-Earphones/dp/B005TOV0OM/
>>55133528
Thanks man. These look pretty good.
>>55133695
It's better if you go for the MK5 for $59. There's a few anons here that own it instead of the EK5.
But if you don't wanna spend that much money and don't mind big bass get Rock Zircon. I think it isolates good, better to go safe with Etymotic if you want mega isolation.
>>55133713
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/100-Original-Rock-Luxury-Zircon-Stereo-Headphones-Headset-3-5mm-In-Ear-Earphone-Earbuds-For-IPhone/32471175916.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_7,searchweb201602_3_10017_507_9999,searchweb201603_1&btsid=ce80014c-b431-4560-8834-cf3f550d6bf7
These are the Zircons you're mentioning right? Do you happen to know how well they isolate compared to the MK5's?
>>55133760
Isolate against what? I'm at home right now.
>>55133765
Noise, specifically teenagers in enclosed spaces.
>>55133760
MK5's isolate much more if I click my fingers loudly. But still. Rock Zircons still sound very good with vocals but it's extremely bassy. MK5's are very neutral which $1000+ headphones aim for.
Thanks man. I'll probably just pick up both, lol.
>>55125945
>>55125964
wtf did you do to them, those are some of the best constructed headphones in that price range...
>Budget
<$20 if possible. I can spend more, but with all the IEMs I've broken over the years I'm not sure I want to.
>Location
J-Pan (I don't mind aliexpress shipping)
>Source
Mostly smartphone and laptop. No external DAC or AMP.
>Preferred type of headphone
IEMs
>Open or closed
Closed (I know the template says to skip this section for IEMs, but I know of some that leak quite a bit of sound so...)
>Comfort level
With IEM tip rolling it probably doesn't matter too much (as long as the units themselves aren't huge and protrude a ton)
>Preferred tonal balance
Don't have a huge preference, but the main thing is that I hate sibilant highs. That doesn't mean I want a recessed treble, just that I don't want it to be exaggerated.
>Preferred music
EDM (DnB, Garage mostly), Rock, Hip Hop
>Past headphones
JVC S500, FXT90, RX500 (big fan of the S500 and FXT90. Just wish the S500 was more comfy)
Audio Technica CKM500, CKN70, CKM55 (broke/sold or gave them all away so I don't remember much)
Zero Audio Carbo Tenore, Carbo Basso (Love the tenore, but they seem way too fragile.)
KZ EDR2 (Got these off some random seller on Aliex, the sound is not balanced. By that I mean one side is louder than the other)
Shure SRH440 (didn't like these much, sold)
I was thinking about getting the Uiisii HM7 because of the review from Audiobudget ,but that website seems to be quite controversial.
If you /g/oys could suggest two pairs of IEMs, one for sports and one for general use, I'd be very grateful.
>>55134037
Why is that website controversial? What should we know about it?
>>55134054
Controversial in the sense that tons of people on /g/ and head-fi say he's full of shit with his reviews and measurements, and therefore not a very trustworthy review source.
Also AFAIK he got banned from Head-fi for flaming.
>>55134037
>could suggest two pairs of IEMs, one for sports and one for general use
><$20 if possible
Sports: VE Monk+
General: Rock Zircon (EQ the bass if it's too much)
>>55134082
>VE Monk+
Is Massdrop still selling the Red versions?
>>55134117
nvm
>>55134082
I've heard lots of good things about the VE Monk+, but why do you suggest them for sports? Wouldn't they fall out easily because they're earbuds and not IEMs?
Also, they're completely sold out atm
>>55134130
It won't fall out so easily if you use the foamies and you can hear your surroundings so it's safer.
>>55134142
I used foamies, both full and donuts, for years before switching to IEMs. One side or the other would fall out after a dozen steps. Had to run them over my ears so they wouldn't fall far when they came out.
Switching to IEMs and they never fall out. Of course, I also greatly increased my situational awareness and check my six at every intersection because I can't hear as well. But then that's useful as well. No more sudden big dog barks startling me or jackasses driving by with horns blaring bothering me anymore as well.
>Budget
$250 - $300
>Location
US
>Source
Shiit modi/magni stack.
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized.
>Open or closed
Open.
>Comfort level
Comfy is nice but not a priority.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral.
>Preferred music
Electronic / Rock.
>Past headphones
HM5 (plastic connecting the cup to the rest of it now falling apart).
I really like these HM5's but I feel they're going to reach their end soon and I'll be left without headphones (I don't have any others at the moment).
>>55135400
On second thought, open/closed doesn't really matter to me.
>>55135400
HD600 or DT880
>>55132675
AKG K553, but they're only moderate comfy, not max.
>>55135466
You know somewhere where the HD600's aren't $400? I've looked them before and they looked nice, but the price point is a bit above what I can spend.
Amazon has them for ~$350, and I might be able to afford that, but its pushing things a bit.
>>55135667
Price fluctuates. It wasn't a couple of months ago that you could get one for $300 with an amazon gift card.
Does anyone have any information on the Phillips A5PRO/00?
They are cheaper than Fidelio X1 and basically the same price as ATH-M40x and MDR-7506.
What's the opinion?
What would you guys recommend for a budget/cheap amp?
>>55135400
K702/Q701l
>>55136003
>Electronic/Rock
>K702/Q701
Pick one.
>>55136034
They're excellent for both rock and electronic music.
>>55136045
Far too cold and analytical to be "excellent for both rock and electronic music." I'd suggest you try some other headphones before you make such a statement.
>>55135545
How about K550?
>>55136054
> cold and analytical
Here, these websites are probably more suitable to you: www.reddit.com , www.headfi.com
I picked up the K702 after testing them along with the Fidelio X2, the DT880 and the HD600 on a broad range of music genres. DT880 probably has a slight advantage in the reproduction of electronic music due to its emphasized sub-bass, but I still prefered the K702 for electronic and for everything else. Emphasized bass sounds fatiguing to me after some time. Both DT880 and K702 are fairly neutral btw, then they both work for every music genres.
>>55135719
I can't find any information online. And the "In collaboration with Armin Van Buuren" bugs me. However, the design is great.
>>55136062
The exact same thing as the K553 pro, but without the improvements. They're a great pair of headphones but I would only consider them if budget is tight and they're substantially cheaper than the 553
>>55136098
>DT880 probably has a slight advantage in the reproduction of electronic music due to its emphasized sub-bass
>I still prefered the K702 for electronic
You recognize that the DT880 is better for electronic, and by extention hard rock, but you still prefer the K702? Can you be a bit more obvious in your irrational bias?
Under 100
U.S.A
Phone, laptop with dac/amp
Iems
I hate Sibilance, anything that is neutral with good mids
Jazz, Rock, Hip Hop, lots of music.
I tried the zircons and they were WAY too bassy.
>>55136115
> by extention hard rock
No. Hard Rock sounds better on the K702 to me. It depends on what Hard Rock we're talking about, I mostly listen to classic Rock/Hard Rock.
> but you still prefer the K702? Can you be a bit more obvious in your irrational bias?
Since when is preferring a less bassy sound signature an irrational bias?
>>55136161
>Since when is preferring a less bassy sound signature an irrational bias?
When the genre functions on a strong emphasis in bassy sound?
How much of a meme is this and why is it getting funded so fast?
find Nura headphones on Kickstarter, because apparently links are blocked
>>55136185
So what? Is there a problem for you if I can enjoy bass on my K702 a lot, whereas I find DT880 bass overwhelming?
