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I couldn't find any iso with installer on gentoo's website, it just starts with this thing and says "boot: "
uhh what the fuck, did i get a faulty ISO? why does /g/ praise this piece of trash Linux
epic trole xd
>>55111964
Gentoo is a troll and a meme
https://www.system-rescue-cd.org/Download
Don't use the Gentoo install images.
install gentoo
>>55111952
Kkys xd
>>55111952
>he fell for it
Someone (won't say who) didn't actually read the wiki. If you had, you would know that Gentoo is notoriously difficult to install for newfriends. It is not for the user new to Linux. It is not for the user that's been using Linux for a year or two. You have to compile the kernel manually, for example. It is for people who have been using Linux for many, many years. Those who have an in depth knowledge of what goes into an operating system and how it functions. Robust knowledge of the entire system, from kernel to desktop environment.
In short: you fucked up. Grab a ubuntu or mint ISO, probably more your speed.
>>55111952
>>55112135
We can't all be illiterate nignogs like you, tripfag. Go live sawako somewhere else weeb REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Ooooh a Gentoo thread. You must be part of the Arch Linux community.
>>55112686
>Not Found
>Not Found
>Not Found
Great distro xD
>>55112742
Go home, GUI fag
>>55112788
Not Found
>>55112250
What a load of bullshit. All you need to do is RTFM
On a scale of 1-10 how hard would it be to install Gentoo
(i have installed Arch linux before so im pretty experienced)
>>55112955
If you can read 1/10
else infinity/10
>>55112955
It's not much harder than arch, you just need to be a little more mindful of your hardware and the type of system you want. IMO if arch is a 3 then gentoo is a 5.
Oh we're posting our gentoo screenfetches? Okay
>>55112955
It's simple shit. You could probably do it with your eyes closed. A lot of people fuck up by doing some retarded shit though.
1. UEFI is needed for GPT installs
2. FAT32 is needed for UEFI installs
2. configure the kernel correctly by checking obvious options, reading the documentation (?), and lspci -vnn
3. make sure your mountpoints are right in /etc/fstab, make sure grub.conf is properly configured, make sure you have an initramfs, make sure you have the firmware for your graphics card, and that they are loaded in /etc/conf.d/modules
4. a EFI bootloader is needed (GRUB2, ELILO systemdicks-boot), best solution is rEFInd or stub booting if you don't have multiple OSes
There really is no way to fuck up other than these areas. Some rarities is when people prune packages without knowing what the fuck they're doing, e.g. GCC dependencies like MPFR and GMP.
>>55112955
>(i have installed Arch linux before so im pretty experienced)
If you fully understood exactly what you were doing with each command in Arch and you understand the installation process and why it takes place the way it does, you'll be fine. It's a similar setup to arch, you setup your drives and unpack the base environment, the difference is there's a lot more setup with your package manager due to the choices you get with init systems and general packages compared to arch's systemd base repos. So lots more config files, documentation, reading and things to do. None of it anything complex to understand until you get to kernel compilation, you might need to learn that. Don't use genkernel for kernel build but do use it for initramfs.
>>55113083
>0m uptime
>>55113426
got out of bed to take the screenshot yesterday lol
I'm still working on my Gentoo install. I have it on a secondary SSD. I think I have everything except XORG working. I am dual booting with Arch at the moment.
>>55113083
>Intel Core i5
>GTX 660
are you me?
>>55113787
perhaps, it's been a comfy ride but I think I might have to put the old girl down and grab an rx 480 later this year
asus by any chance?
r8
You guys can install gentoo perfectly and all but have you made your own distro?
>>55114001
Linux from scratch isn't a distro.
It's a book that tells you how to install your own OS from "scratch"
It's only a distro once you package it up and DISTRIBUTE it
>>55112844
To complete an install yes the manual is quite easy to follow. In order to actually make use of the tools that Gentoo offers one must understand *why* they need those tools. Most newfriends won't have any real need for any of that stuff. Hell I doubt most professionals would even need it but it might make their life a little easier.
>>55113836
shitty wallpaper. Bet you wear fedoras.
Otherwise 8/10
If everything goes as planned, I will be posting a gentoo in virtualbox snap in the coming weeks.
It seems that the more I learn about Linux the harder it gets to install Gentoo. First time I had only run Ubuntu for ~2 years and had no idea what I was doing, no problems at all. Did another a few years later, lot more experienced, took forever. Tried again last year and couldn't get nothing to work. Fuck me.
>>55114526
>literally too dumb to follow a walkthrough
>>55111970
>>>/b/ if you can't justify that, faggot
>>55112742
He didn't install a DE or GTK, therefore they aren't found. He could install them if he wanted, but he doesn't give a fuck. If you had ever used a distro besides Arch you would understand these simple things.
>>55112742
Better? That one was pretty old
>>55112250
The Gentoo wiki has a list of commands you can literally fucking copy paste to install Gentoo.
>>55112955
>installed arch = experienced
well shitposted
>>55114526
It only seems that way.
Simply buy hardware that is known to be well supported, insert standard iso of fav distro and start working without any hassle at all.
What's so hard about that?
>>55111952
>2016
>Not installing Gentoo with Calculate Linux
Gentoo install isn't bad. Don't just copy and paste commands though. I honestly can't stress that enough for people who are new to UNIX and/or GNU/Linux. ALWAYS make sure you know exactly what is going on if you paste something into the terminal. This way if you make a mistake then you can likely undo it. If you make a habit of being a script kiddie I guarantee it will be one of the worst mistakes of your life. Honestly, I was kind of a script kiddie when I first started with Ubuntu and Debian but you know, people make mistakes and we fix them. That's how we learn.
>>55112686
>1465602448775
You must be a fedora user to be this dumb
>>55114723
I was on mobile. My family took me out for my birthday and I was lurking before I left.
>>55111952
Learn how to terminal faggot
Install gentoo
>>55114742
>My family took me out for my birthday
M A N C H I L D
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>>55114776
I'm 23 faggot. Big deal.
>>55114776
>he doesn't have a family that likes him
kek
>>55114784
>>55114795
How many goodboy points did you have to gather?
>>55114813
if you have a family that actually likes you and you aren't a piece of shit to and you give back to, you don't need to "earn" anything, retard
>>55114825
This
I feel bad for this pathetic unloved loser tho >>55114776
>>55114795
>>55114825
>>55114852
Thanks anons
>>55114825
>>55114852
How old are you? Do you seriously live with your parents? Holy shit hahaha
>>55114880
How does that imply that they live with their parents? Even if they do it's not that big of a deal. Shit happens. Do you realize your logic is fucked?
>>55114904
Do you?
>>55114880
No? Do you not see your family on occasions? Probably not because you're a fucking loser.
>>55114948
I live in a fucking different continent, child
>>55114953
Sucks for you.
>>55114926
Yes, we all realize your logic is fucked.
>>55115012
News flash: Once you will have to grow up, and with any luck move out
>>55115021
Its you
>>55115022
do you ever visit your family?
>>55115056
Couple years back, yeah. Why?
>>55115063
M A N C H I L D
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>>55115088
You could save the mental gymnastics for later
>>55115095
Do you not see the fault in your logic, here?
Maybe you really are the manchild.
>>55115063
i was just asking, its good that you still visit your family. try to do it more.
>>55112250
>It is not for the user that's been using Linux for a year or two
Bullshit. I switched to Gentoo after using Linux for about 1-2 months, simply because my current distro at the time (debian) pissed me off.
>>55115114
Unless you don't know how to communicate properly you can stop trying hereby.
>>55115122
I'll try.
>>55113083
>Only 700 packages
And I thought my setup was minimalistic
>>55112250
Yeah, I disagree with this as well. I usually encourage new friends to try meta distros like Gentoo. It might be intimidating but it's worth the effort. I know some people use Genkernel for an auto kernel compile but I definitely recommend using the menuconfig. Menuconfig makes compiling the kernel sooo much easier. Atleast during a rootshell install you know exactly what is going on, you're not just enabling some options and watching a loading screen.
>>55115174
I have 682 on my gentoo box
>>55115264
>I know some people use Genkernel for an auto kernel compile but I definitely recommend using the menuconfig. Menuconfig makes compiling the kernel sooo much easier
>menuconfig
>notmake nconfig
low-time gentoo user detected
>>55115282
>notmake xconfig
>>55115282
you've got to be kidding me
>>55115328
GUI babby go away
>>55115282
>>55115328
>notmake randconfig
pussies
>>55115356
If I wanted a 50% chance of my system being bootable after an upgrade, I'd just use archlinux
When installing gentoo how do you know which modules to automatically load? Can you just leave it alone?
>>55115496
Modules are always automatically loaded when appropriate hardware is found, that's a linux thing and not a GNU thing. The question should be: how do I figure out what modules to build? And the answer is: manually.
>>55115496
>>55115522
I don't use any modules on my end. I just look at what hardware I have (via lspci -k) and statically compile all of the relevant drivers, as well as everything else I need for booting (initramfs support, root FS support, etc.)
I'm waiting for Midori to finish installing so I can shitpost my screenfetch.
Why must everything take a year to compile?
>>55115727
Blame webkit
>>55115377
>implying you would even have 50% chance of boot
>>55115282
Is nconfig actually better than menuconfig in any way? I've been using menuconfig... :^(
>>55116067
No. It's just less graphical and so some people think it's more 1337
>>55116067
>>55117020
I find it much easier on the eyes and much easier to use
YMMV
>>55111952
RTFM
>>55117088
How are the kernels from the testing branch? I've seen a lot of people use them with few issues but I haven't actually tried one myself.
>>55117266
Well, I use everything from the testing branch because the stable branch is even more fucking outdated than debian. In general, I find using testing is *more* stable than using stable.
They're fine for me.
>>55115749
>>55115727
After waiting 4 hours for Midori to compile, it then fails on the very last part on webkit...
Then I learn Google installs in 10min.
Gentoo takes so much time to manage, any tips for a new user?
> have to compile media-libs/imlib2 with .png support to screenfetch
here is my metal + vmware LFS install. gentoo is for plebs
>>55117891
Now with a bigger screen.
What dm should I install?
What can I do to make this more Gentoo?
>>55117891
>3GB RAM
found your problem
>>55117935
>inside a virtual machine
I bet you're real proud of your uber 1337 setup, fag
>>55118123
Compiling is more CPU heavy no?
>>55118134
>metal + vmware
what part did you not understand? I can boot it from either vmware or directly on metal. Vmware has this nice feature that it lets you use physical disks/partitions.
>>55118159
then why not show a screenshot of you booted into your uber 1337 distro
oh, is it because you're too much of a pretentious fag to actually *use* it?
>>55118177
What's it to you?
>>55118123
Well now that I've almost successfully installed Gentoo on a VM, it's time to do it on actual hardware.
I say this right after I rebooted and Xorg killed itself.
>>55118249
Kek that sucks. Startx didnt work?
>>55118265
Yep failed to start, no screens found.
It's funny because It was working perfectly, and this is completely random.
>>55113251
You dont even need to 100% correct when you first the kernel, as long as you can get a bootable system from the first install then you can work on reconfiguring your kernel to suit your hardware.
>>55112250
My ass. RTFM and there's no problem. It's idiots who can't follow instructions who have issues.
>>55112250
If you can bake a cake you can install gentoo.
>>55111952
install gentoo
What is the actual benefit of installing gentoo? I'm not too clear on this.
>>55118522
But the cakes that I bake are shit
>>55118600
did you follow a messy recipe?
>>55118563
portage
use flags
4chan points
a godly level of control
money and a sexy wife
>>55118612
Yea I found the recipe on wiki.gentoo.org
>>55117891
You probably still have to learn how Portage works and how to maintain a source based distro. I'm in the dev support and 90% of issues are pebcak related.
>>55118637
You know you can't be lazy
>>55118833
But I didn't want to go out to the chickens, cut the wheat out in the field, and milk the cows...
Why do that when I could go to a store.
>>55118860
Because when you go to the store you're also paying taxes and a bunch of other shit you shouldn't have to deal with
>>55118936
You know It would probably be a lot cheaper to go and buy what you need, compared to having a huge farm.
>>55118860
>>55118936
>>55118987
This is a horrible analogy and you should all kill yourselves
Here's a better one:
Normal distro: You go to the store, you can choose between 2 brands of whatever. Both contain all sorts of additives and allergens, and if you don't like that fact you can go fuck off.
Gentoo: You go to the store, you pick from a list of 20+ base brands of spaghetti including the 2 major ones and 18 minor obscure alternatives, then if you you have the option of customizing each of the brands first to remove a certain allergen you don't like or an additive you're uncomfortable with, and in theory you could even go wild making your entirely personal, highly customized brand of spaghetti that matches your tastes and preference exactly.
But you could also just go with the default and not touch it. (Although if that's the case, why bother with Gentoo?)
The point is, gentoo is about choice. Other distros take that choice away from you, gentoo doesn't.
>>55119023
Very Nice analogy, but it still feels like I have to grow the wheat to get there.
>>55118860
You gotta do the cooking by the book
>>55118833
>>55119085
>>>/reddit/
We get it, you got the reference. Woohoo. Go celebrate somewhere else. In case you haven't noticed, you're anonymous on this site. Nobody gives a shit about your display of le epic pop culture reference mastery.
>>55119082
All good things take effort
>>55118860
>>55118936
>>55118987
>>55119023
I don't like any of these analogies
>>55119437
It got a little carried away, sorry to waste your precious time.
>>55119023
>But you could also just go with the default and not touch it. (Although if that's the case, why bother with Gentoo?)
Hey retard. Some people use Gentoo because they like the default. It's a hell of a lot better than Systemd cancer and software anarchy
>>55117963
Deep into Gentoo, and it just doesn't make sense. I mean the people in the irc are very friendly and answer all my questions, and by now I have a lot better understanding of Gentoo-
But I can't justify it's use for any normal person.
I mean if I where to actually use Gentoo I wouldn't even take advantage of any the customization it provides.
>need to recompile all of xfce with .jpg and .png support just so I can use them as background pictures
>>55121468
It's not Gentoo's fault that you don't know how to maintain a source based distro. Gentoo is like the perfect operating system.
install gentoo
>>55118936
What's wrong with paying taxes?
>>55121468
>the people in the irc are very friendly and answer all my questions
tfw I helped you over irc :3
>>55124667
I knew someone from there would comment :3
>>55114631
no tiling wm -> beta
>>55111952
Install Gentoo is not difficult. The problem is the post-installation. To be able to install something is a martyr.
>>55112321
have you noticed any improvements over the X experience on your part?
>anon@home:~$
rate my gentoo os
[spoiler]i have no idea what to do now[/spoiler]
>>55112250
>gentoo super cyber elite hackerman delux edition halo plus cawadoodee combined awesome so cool
Compiling the kernel is literally the first thing I learned to do in linux when i was 12, anon.
>>55125469
Install Xorg and a WM or DE.
you are supposed to type PCMACIA at boot: prompt.
