http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/06/snap-to-be-universal-linux-package-format
>Snaps can run on other Linux distributions, including Arch, Fedora, Linux >Mint, CentOS and Gentoo.
Canonical just save the GNU/Linux ecosystem, how do you feel about it ?
>inb4 tar.gz can do that
>inb4 comparing a compressed folder you need to extract to /opt with a single binary file
>>55105451
I feel... actually I don't feel anything.
Who the fuck cares about this?
Snaps don't require sources to be disclosed
Snaps can't be ported to architectures unsupported by the developer
Snaps are ghey
I think freedom wise snaps will be a bad thing but at least we will be able to get good applications
>>55105480
Not to mention from what I've seen so far you'll need some sort of account to download Snaps, and they also automatically update without needing your input.
I'm a little bit worried what this means for Linux. It seems like a cheap ploy to appeal to a new audience with "features" from Windows.
>>55105480
>>55105480
>Snaps don't require sources to be disclosed
Big deal
> Snaps can't be ported to architectures unsupported by the developer
Big deal
>I think freedom wise snaps will be a bad thing but at least we will be able to get good applications
Big deal.
>>55105761
The good thing is that you still have the option to compile from source, just like you'd want to.
This is good, and will only help to grow Linux as a viable platform for everyone - which can only be good in the long run.
>>55105451
>polishing a turd
What's the point? It can't even reach OSX level of support for Windows applications. It offers nothing for desktop systems, rather causes ass pain by installing shitty generic drivers that put you on suicide watch.
Just give up already.
>>55105856
Can snaps actually solve a problem that always has been pointed?
"Every GNU/Linux distribution at the moment (including Ubuntu) confuses system software with end user software, whereas they are two very different beasts which should be treated very, very differently."
Hope they.
>>55105886
Snaps seems like a very consumer-oriented platform from what I've seen of its already-established repository.
>>55105451
>Apps
>>55105918
>and that makes me mad
>>55105829
Not good for muh seekret club /g/ autists
>>55105480
Good. Without freedums and open sores we might actually see some good software in linux soon.
I'm not sure what the point of one package format to rule them all is.
Whats snap app?
>>55105918
Snaps were designed to be used with ubuntu phones first, and then desktops.
>"canonical just save"
kill yourself
I can't wait to have a bunch of programs that aren't managed by my package manager and just update when they want to and shit.
>>55107271
Hopefully they won't become a thing, but it sounds like the odds are stacked against that happening what with all the corps wanking themselves raw about them
Fuck could you imagine if it became standard for all the major distros? I reckon only Gentoo and a few others would refuse to adopt it. I wonder if it'd push more people to the BSD side of the fence?
Yet another standard. Yawn
>>55105829
Wrong. The more use and attention "Snaps" get, the more other companies will see them being used and do the same rather than integrating their software with any, better, systems.
This is bad because it means if you actually want to use any of the software that's now only available in Snaps(tm) format, you lose control over its dependencies, meaning wasting disk space and memory storing/running dozens of versions/variants of the same libraries, security vulnerabilities in dependencies not being patched by your distribution's security team with standard system updates and extra difficulty or impossibility in hacking dependencies.
>>55110698
This
In essence: Goodbye stable releases, it's not just the computer's user who must be beta anymore
>>55105480
>at least we will be able to get good applications
>>55105992
>actually see some good software in linux soon
fucking retards; whatever you call "good software" isn't on linux because there's no money to be made from a linux port (ie, for you mentally ill shits, the costs of doing the port and support it long term are not justifiable in the face of the low market share of linux desktops)
the problem is not the packaging; fucking sharutils and linking the application with a relative rpath can do the same thing (again, with regard to packaging, illiterate fucks) as snaps/flatpacks/whatever-the-fuck since the 80s
>>55111453
Most problems I encountered with linux was from the so called stable release distros. Like CentOS. The packages are so fucking old they contain bazillion bugs and incompabilities with anything made in the past 5 years ffs.
>>55111715
>CentOS
It's like you want to have a shit time
>>55105464
Snaps are not "a single binary file", they're literally compressed archives.
>>55105451
>>55105918
Go kill yourself kid.
They are called snapps, get with the times or die you mindless twat
>>55105451
I think a better solution would be to make a point and click way to compile packages from a tarball. If there was a gui for it then new users would not be scared away.
>>55112614
This already exists you collosal manky carrot.
>>55112614
Already exists.
Ewwwww
>>55105451
Finally!
I've always thought having 2186 different versions of the same library on my system would be a good thing.
http://kmkeen.com/maintainers-matter/2016-06-15-11-51-16-472.html
>>55105451
>not statically linking
>ever
Snaps? More like s'NOPE's
>>55112630
>>55112722
What I meant by that was to build it into Ubuntu.
>>55113063
>>55105451
What happened to Flatpak?
>>55113063
Are you from the year 2002?
>>55105451
Say 'hi' to a lot more Linux malware. Courtesy of NS,... Canonical.
>>55105451
>Hey you know that thing windows does that's awful.
>Yeah let's do that.
Its a package manager with better security for binaries stop freaking out.
Its a long way off from adoption.
>>55113493
Filtered.
>>55113124
>>55113093
>>55112722
>>55112630
He said compile, not install from binaries.
>>55113543
Inbred
>>55105451
>app
Fuck off
>>55108188
When it catches on in all the "big" distros I might move on to BSD. Or I'll give up, embrace the botnet and buy a MacBook.
>>55108236
At least it doesn't come from Red Hat.
Sounds like a solution looking for a problem.
>>55107271
It's like I'm on Windows again!
i don't see it replacing apt/pacman/yum/etc
but rather being an alternative for application devs to release software themselves as
think of something like GoG linux releases, they're either;
- an installer which just extracts the game to your home folder and throws a shortcut in your applications list
- is a tarball with the game contents and a launch script
technically speaking, snaps aren't much different, they're a squashfs filesystem with the program and some metadata (.desktop file, icon, launch/wrapper scripts)
the snapd daemon just mounts the squashfs, and places the .desktop/icon/wrapper scripts into appropriate paths, making them appear to be "installed"
>snap store
no thanks
