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>>55050656
You people are cancerously autistic.
>>55102536
That complete rig costs more than a house (at least here in the flyover states)
and I have not even mentioned audiophile-grade approved power conditioners and cables.
>>55101797
Pretty much the same thing actually, if Anon can get it for less than he probably should.
>>55102536
>>55102571
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO6XRFGCKSw
>>55102601
not him but is the K712 the only one that does not have that midrange bump in the fq chart?
>Budget:
$150
>Location
California
>Source
PC, no sound card (mostly for gayming)
>Type
Over-ears, Closed
>Comfort
Something that at least won't hurt after hours of straight use
>past headphones
Was using Sennheiser CX 300 II until my dog rekt them yesterday
>>55102942
Cheapest piece of shit from aliexpress
>>55102942
>rekt them yesterday
So you're just gonna throw them in the trash?
Go to a dollar store + buy a $1 earphone + solder the new cables on = Refurbished/Profit.
>>55102942
DT770
>Budget
$300 - $600
>Location
USA
>Source
o2 dac+amp
>Preferred type of headphone
full size
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
don't care
>Preferred tonal balance
mids. do not care about bass or treble "v-shaped" response
I want a precise, tight sound.
>Preferred music
various electro from 1985 - 2005 (aphex twin, drexciya, boards of canada), classical (primarily piano solo)
>Past headphones
AKG K550, etymotic hf5, sony mdr 7506
I liked the tight sound of the first two a lot
>Models I was eyeing
hifiman he-400i, but I hear varying things about bass, which I do not want overemphasized?
k712, but seems akg is making shit bassy and muddy? I tried the k7xx and think they are garbage.
>>55103208
you're confusing the 400i's extended sub-bass
if you want mids then hd600 / hd650
>Budget
150 USD but im willing to budge
>Location
Southern US but I use amazon 90% of the time for technology
>Source
Mostly my phone as I already have headphones for monitoring
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-ear headphones
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Never had a problem with other headphones so a nonfactor i suppose
>Preferred tonal balance
I like a big v-cut so boosted treble and bass is a must
>Preferred music
Literally everything from vocaloid to rap to math rock so a nonfactor
>Past headphones
I had V-Modas that I liked but idk if i want another pair since the first one broke, i've used M50s before and they sounded good but they were ugly to me and im a picky bastard
>>55102942
honestly either spectrums or g430s from logitech
now I know the "gaymin hedset are shit" meme but honestly considering how cheap they are and they come with decent mics its really all you need
i have a question for you noobs...
some (not all) musicians dont have headphones or rigs as good as you guys, so their vision/desired sound isn't the same as what you're doing.
if i use apple earpods im actually getting the intended experience
>>55103342
>implying the musicians and not the engineer/producer who creates the master determines what is the "intended experience"
>>55103342
this isnt a question lmao
I fucked up my previous post.
Austrian K702 vs. Chinese/Bumpless K702
Did I fuck up by buying the Chinese ones?
>>55103208
>>55103252
I briefly tried an hd600 but it didn't sound very precise compared to my k550. Am I just really used to the k550?
Do you think the hd600 is best in that price range for mids?
Also I see that hd600 is more neutral than hd650, thus you suggested hd600.
thanks!
>>55095311
WHY IS NOBODY RESPONDING
Are the Objective 2 Massdrop sells any good? I'm planing on buying 4 to resell them in my 3rd world country.
>>55103514
I personally don't trust it, they are using some no-name manufacturer in china. No doubt they will also start making o2+odac once they feel confident in the build process, but I won't trust it as much as jds/mayflower.
>>55103476
Fuck off.
>>55103604
Why?I just want to know which headphones are better you mongoloid.
>>55103529
Oh I see. Better invest in something else.
I've got soldering skills, maybe I could buy the kits and finish them myself.
>>55103476
>look at reviews online
>see which model is regarded as more neutral
>get that one
Otherwise, step up to an MDR-7506. A whole shit-ton of people can't be wrong.
>>55103613
If you have soldering skills and are interested in gaining more knowledge in electronics, maybe try to make the o2 yourself?
also, people around the net discuss making DIY kits for them (say, giving you a pcb ad a bag of parts), but I haven't seen it happen yet.
Can digital audio sound better than listening to the actual instrument producing the noise in real life?
>>55103617
>MDR-7506
Don't have them in my country.I've read that 681hd are extremely flat and good for producing but don't know how they compete with akg240 mk ii
>>55103677
Sounds like the 681hd are a good bet then. For production purposes, as close to flat as possible is ideal. What type of source will you be using?
>>55103700
>681hd are a good bet then.
I want the best bang for the buck because I had so many purchase that I still regret to this day.
>What type of source will you be using?
What do you mean by source?
>>55103677
Neither of those are particularly flat. The SuperluxHD have better bass extension but they're a bit boomy inthe bass department.
The AKGs are darker in comparison but also have less bass boost.
Neither are particularly good for production
>>55103764
better treble extenson***
>>55103764
Really?I've read that hd681(not evo saying it once again) are almost ear piercing flat.
Hey guys, what's your opinion on kz edr2?
https://audiobudget.com/product.php?brand=KZ&id=EDR2
Which in-ear should I get, Sennheiser CX-300 II or CX 3.0
i use my iphone headphone atm
wat should i buy to get better quality sound.
has to work with apple music
>>55103818
Read the op cucknuts
>>55103841
I did.
Take a joke numbnuts.
But seriously, are they decent?
>>55103841
Speaking of the OP, Tranquilizer should touch up his Universal IEM list (or someone else should make an updated one in it's place).
Is attached pic still the current recommendation list? why no k712?
>>55104067
>Those MSR7's in that pic
I don't know how I should feel. I missed an opportunity to nab those MSR7's for $160 from a local shop having a closing down sale.
>>55104067
What's the most up to date /g/uide for poorfags?
>>55103424
No, they are more comfortable and the build quality is fine.
>>55104300
This one?
Tascam TH-02 needs updating. Spending a little bit more for HM5 pads are 1000% worth it.
>>55102655
it also doesn't have the imbalance from bass to treble that the rest of the range has
>>55102322
nep nep
>>55104674
I have the first neptunia steam game and I still haven't played it or watched the anime if there is one. Any good? Have you played it?
I always listen to NeptuneSagashite.mp3 all the time. It sounds good on repeat.
>>55103208
400i will have better bass than anything in dynamic headphones for the price
k712 doesn't have muddy bass, I owned a pair and they definitely aren't
HD650 isn't less balanced, it just doesn't have the rolled off bass that the hd600 does
you might like the dt880 as well
>>55103291
beyer dt770
>>55103342
>I have a question that is actually a really stupid statement
cool
nice autism
>>55103652
Are you autistic?
I want to get a headphone dac/amp for my PC because I get a lot of noise over the line out that I think is interference from my GPU. Should I get one with USB or SPDIF input?
>>55104772
Whatever is more convenient for your setup.
>>55104784
Might as well use the SPDIF since then I won't lose a USB port, eh?
>>55104736
Thanks for the advice!
Since you owned the k712, can you tell me what you use and like now?
Is the bass in the 400i pretty clean, or is it overpowering? I like midrange the most.
>>55104772
get an o2+odac if you can bud
i have one and use it for sennheiser hd 600s and its brilliant
also makes my speakers sound better then through my mobos sound card so they go through it too
>>55104829
to elaborate some guy who was apparently an audio engineer sperged out at shitty overpriced amps/dacs/soundcards and posted his own design and gave companies permission to make it as long as they do it right, so you can get it from mayflower, jdslabs, and maybe a few others.
He left afterwards and i dont think ever returned but the amp/dac just sounds so good to my ears
>>55104829
Thanks. A follow up question, I use the Peace equilizer APO with Windows. If I use a digital output from the mobo through USB or SPDIF will this bypass the equalizer?
I notice there is one playback device in the menu called Realtek Digital Output. I'm not sure if this the SPDIF port only or USB also?
Alright hpg I fell for the MDR 7506 meme and I must say it's a good meme.
>>55104887
now you just need a decent amp/dac combo to make the 7506 sound punchier in bass, tame the treble and give it solid mids
I'm interested in these Mayflower modded Fostex T50RP Mk3s. Any opinions?
https://www.mayflowerelectronics.com/shop/headphones/fostex-t50rp-version-3/
>>55104802
I could never find a comfortable fit for the k712, the wing suspansion design just was not able to hold the ear cups at either the same height, or with any amount of clamp force on my head. I imagine the problem might not extend so far for a person with a smaller skull though. I'm 6'1" and have a big head.
I now use sennheiser hd598's and I love them to bits. They don't quite have the detail of the 712, but I'm looking to get some hd650's in the future because I love the way the sennheisers sit on my head and I've already owned dt880's in the past but my father owns hd600's and they're the bees knees, I just got the hd598 as a temporary replacement for the broken k712.
Bass in the he400i shouldn't be overpowering, it's supposed to be pretty accurate, check some reviews.
People recommend the srh1840 by shure but the measurements look like shit and they have a weird sound signature by the looks so I'd take those with a grain of salt.
>>55103342
The mixing and mastering engineers are responsible for this, not the artists. While studio monitor accuracy does vary quite a bit, it's not as radical of a different than plugging in Earbuds. And in the end, the arbitrary equalizer that your colored piece of gear actually becomes to might even make some tracks sound better to you personally than they would during the mastering.
http://www.genelec.fi/documents/publications/SurveyofMonitoringConditions.pdf
>>55103476
K240 Mk II is V-shaped and HD-681 is bright. I'd say the HD-681 is a better choice here but beware of the comfort.
>>55103652
Of course. Not only is that a matter of opinion but something playing in real life always mixes in with the environment. Something that was recorded in a very silent studio, using good quality equipment, carefully mastered and then played back with a high quality system could very well sound better to many than the same thing being played back without the post production and acoustics of a studio.
>>55104067
Most would consider it a downgrade to the K612 and K7-series headphones. Same applies to K812.
>>55104772
Whichever you prefer. Do note that in some cases the USB can be prone to EMI and carry that in the signal to your DAC. This is rare though and likely not an issue.
>>55104861
EQ APO is a system wide software equalizer which works on every single DirectSound device. So no, it will not bypass your digital outputs.
>>55105126
My opinion is that you should buy it. Fostex is pretty much the final boss of headphones.
>>55103860
It's yet another massively bass heavy set from KZ.
>>55103954
>Tranquilizer should touch up his Universal IEM list
There are still a few layout changes I should make, but I've long since gotten tired of tracking down in-ears to add to it.
>>55104736
>400i will have better bass than anything in dynamic headphones for the price
>for the price
for any price
>>55105496
Is it worth it for the mods though or should get the stock Mk3?
>>55104723
play it for the characterization of 4 goddesses and comedy but its non canon cause of retcon.
2nd game is about the imouto
3rd game is going to another universe
4th game i dunno yet, probably released next month
go play all 3 before 4th game is released
>>55105635
Cool. Thank you. Will do.
>>55103208
> K712
Not less muddy than K7XX. They're both worse than K702/Q701, which is also cheaper, depending on where you live. K612 is also better than K712, but it has harsher treble than K702/Q701 imo.
>>55104067
> why no K712?
Buy one yourself and compare it along with a K702/Q701/K612. People in these threads started considering the K712 only because a guy here liked it and started shilling it over and over. Before that, noone ever considered the K712 as good as the K702/Q701/K612. If you're curious about the AKG sound, get one of these and disregard everything else.
Golden rule of audio products: more expensive doesn't always equate to better.
Should I buy some focal spirit pro ? I can get them for ~150€, which seems like a decent price to me. And they look like decent cans.
>>55105474
>L/R and L/C/R channel matching
That's probably not the chart you're thinking of.
>>55105709
They sound decent, but:
-tight fit, small pads
-headband is somewhat frail
Your call.
my M50's just broke so I'm looking for the next logical upgrade
Looking for a headphone amp combo
>budget
$300-$400
>Location
Southern US
>Source
Computer
>preferred type of headphone
Over-ear
Open
>preferred music
I like all sorts but more specifically I'm looking for a headphone that has a very strong bass that doesn't gloss over the details too much (mids and highs)
>past headphone
M50
>>55105731
Correction: amp and/or DAC
>>55105731
Fidelio X2
>>55105350
Thanks for all the comments!
The hd600 and the he400i look interesting. I love AKG sound but also need some variety. I think though I will take this slow and try them out before making a purchase. The frequency response curve on the he400i is marvelously flat
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/HiFiMANHE4002014.pdf
I haven't looked into the srh1840; I'll scope them out, thanks!
I hope you find some headphones you like too. Thanks again for the comments!
>>55105474
Thanks for the comments on the K712 and K812
>>55105682
Thanks for the comments on the K712. Seems K7xx and K712 are victims of new production processes at AKG which afaics are designed for "more popular" sounding headphones and also... just being fucking cheap. I tried the K7XX and was shocked how shitty they are.
anyway, thanks for all the comments.
I have some cheap Sennheiser HD439's right now.
What would you say is the single biggest thing I'm missing out on by not investing in better headphones?
>>55105731
dt770 250 ohms + schiit stack
>>55105867
>What would you say is the single biggest thing I'm missing out on by not investing in better headphones?
Treble.
>>55105725
>That's probably not the chart you're thinking of.
Yea I just posted a quick screen of the paper. Maybe should've picked it better.
>>55105978
This. Treble is underrated
Been watching a certain series and I noticed that when there is a loud "impact"-ish sound like an explosion or a crash or something, it will usually have noticeable distortion, kind of like the sound gets shredded or something. Anyone know what this is and why it might happen? Is most likely just an issue with the source, or could something be up in my setup? My DAC was not cheap so I'm hoping it's not a hardware issue.
>>55106695
>Been watching a certain series
Heavy Object? I remember a big explosion that crackled. I own several high end headphones. Sennheiser etc.
Question:
What are the best brands for earbud headhphones?
>>55106771
>I own several high end headphones. Sennheiser etc.
comedy gold
>>55106695
You forgot to mention what headphones you use.
>best brands
Don't do this.
>>55106807
Huh?
I didn't say AKG, Philips or Beyer which upsets some anons.
>>55106820
AKG K7XX
>>55106771
Jojo's Bizarre Adventure. Pretty noticeable distortion on pretty much every loud explosion, though I'm not sure if it's the encoder's fault or what, haven't really noticed the problem much in other stuff but it's super noticeable here in almost every episode where such sounds occur. (Which is pretty often in this series.)
Watching the DHD encode of the first season's blu-rays.
>>55106923
This scene from Heavy Object is what I'm talking about. [SPOILERS] https://youtu.be/-J_EdnJ_3c4?t=16m6s
If you watch it with full size 1080p and .mkv the sound and distortion is much more better.
How long does the battery last on your bluetooth headphones? Whats the quality/ range like?
How much longer do you think the current runs of STAX 4170s will last?
Budget
~1500 NOK
About $180, 160€
>Location
Norway
>Source
Phone, laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
Circumaural
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy for use with glasses
Would also appreciate if they had decent build quality and last more than a year of daily use
>Preferred tonal balance
>Preferred music
Classical, electronic
>Past headphones
Bottom of the barrel shit
>>55105844
>I haven't looked into the srh1840; I'll scope them out, thanks!
I told you not to look at the srh1840. I said take the recommendations with a grain of salt because the measurements are total shit.
>>55105522
It won't have more detail than something like the hd800, so no, not for any price.
>>55107537
you're wrong
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/HiFiMANHE4002014.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD800.pdf
>>55105731
You didn't mention what you want them to sound like.
>>55107563
>very strong bass that doesn't gloss over the details too much (mids and highs)
>>55107143
Beyerdynamic dt 250
>>55107558
>FR graphs equate to detail
I'm not the one who's wrong.
>>55107578
Ah whoops didn't see that.
>>55105731
Probably the fidelio X2 like that other anon suggested
Maybe this is a case of fox and grapes but I can't imagine it gets all that much better than this.
Btw, get the kz-ed9 instead of the piston 3's and use the alternate filters that come in the box. It makes them sound perfect
>>55107892
My first good headphones were audio technica ath-ad700. I thought they were the best thing I'd heard, as the only good headphones I had heard up to that point were hd518's on a friend's PC onboard audio.
When I bought my next pair, some beyerdynamic DT880's I was blown away by the difference.
Be careful about declarations you make at the start of your exploration of the hobby.
>Budget
a max $100 headphone and max $300 other one
>Location
NA
>Source
JDS Labs The Element (brother gave it to me)
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized Open
>Comfort
will be using them at home only while lying down so weight/head fit is not an issue but I like the skin around my ears to be comfortable and breathable?
>Preferred tonal balance
I like mids it's my favorite
I like clear sound (I'm only mentioning this cause I heard sennheiser's "garglesound(tm)" years ago, and I do not want that)
I don't like apple earpods bass, average bass or slightly lower than average is good enough for me
I don't enjoy piercing highs but I can live with it if the headphone's other features outweigh them (I will use equalizer to fix it, but prefer not to)
>Preferred music
it keeps on changing so maybe a headphone for all types of music? (except dubstep, acapella, and violin solos)
>Past headphones
Supertreble hd668b
-treble fatigue, hot n sweaty earpads, shitty ass-backwards cable attachment, chink manual
+very clear sound, ok bass (to my ears at least)
>>55099239
>>55099295
Told an anon in the old thread I'd comment on the HiFiMeDIY DAC. It arrived a day earlier than expected.
Compared to motherboard out (using Beyer DT770 250ohm):
The volume goes a lot higher.
Sound is clearer.
More detailed, getting those textures better.
"Soundstage" seems bigger, more wide. Seems easier to separate instruments? (I've missed these two things from previous headphones)
So overall it seems it was true about them needing a bit more power. They're better driven now. Unfortunately that also means I'm now hearing the DT770's treble more (which I was warned about) which isn't so much to my liking.
Also it came with optical out on the same socket as the headphones plug in to, which I wasn't expecting.
I was only looking for a DAC, but may need different headphones now as there's only so much EQing can do and I wouldn't mind more
Worth the £40, but buyer's remorse is creeping up for the DT770s. They're not bad, just not much to my liking. Too v-shaped.
/blog
Anyone I hope the curious anon sees this.
Also hoping for a rec on something with better mids (bass bleeding on to them is a dealbreaker), milder treble, less clamp. Open/semi-open?
Would a DT880 achieve this?
>>55108248
>"garglesound(tm)"
I usually don't bother with autismals and their bait memes but I have to ask what this one is about.
>>55108303
*wouldn't mind more mids
Guys I need something I could wear all day long at work. I'm a developer, in an office with some coworkers.
I don't care that much about sound quality, I'm mostly using Spotify or some web radios anyways, I'm looking for something REALLY comfy that's not gonna make feel like I need to kill myself after 2 or 3 hours of wearing.
Any advice ?
>>55108321
it sounded to me like the whole audio had a little gargling/popping/crackling kinda feel to it
you know the sound a campfire makes when the wood is burning? if someone could make that into an audio filter, then sennheiser has put something like that into their headphones and toned it down hard so it is subtle
I probably wouldn't have noticed it at all, but many years ago I went into a shop and auditioned some of the headphones there, the sennheiser had some gargling going on (i forgot model but it was a black one with big drivers, they said it was high end)
>>55102942
>Something that at least won't hurt after hours of straight use
Bose Over-Ears for ~150$
- comfiest headphones ever made
- no "Audiophile" shilling
- no need for Amp
>>55108303
>Would a DT880 achieve this?
Yes. Definitely.
>>55108179
It's not the start I've been in the audiophile thing for 10+ years.
Is the AT m40x too bad compared to the m50x? Frankly the difference is almost twice the price here.
Im coming from a sony mdr v6
>>55108382
Sennheiser HD518
>>55108437
yea but your budget is like $50 max for those last 10 years you gotta level up at some point
>>55108460
Thanks anon
>>55108437
After ten years you're still buying $50 or less headphones?
>>55108443
m40x is better than m50x.
>>55108390
It's likely they were using an awful audio splitter and a low quality source. I recently tested some headphones at a jb-hifi in Australia. There was audible hiss sibilance and distortion on every track they had playing. It was obvious they were using low bitrate mp3's to display their headphones with.
You might wish to re-evaluate your assessment of the brand based entirely off one bad experience from an awful shop.
>>55108505
Uh, really? I thought the m50x had bigger driver and broader frequencies. Thanks for the input anyways
>>55108505
Don't listen to this. This anon probably hasn't even heard either headphone and is basing his autism off /g/'s own autistic rants about how the m50x is worse than the m50 when the measurements don't agree.
It's the same as when they claim anybody who recommends the hd598 is a "sennshill" and retarded because the 558 is somehow superior because they saw an autist posting such on headfi once and choose to be contrary for its own sake.
>>55108443
Neither will be particularly flat, and detail on the m50x is lacking, my advice is to fill out the purchase request form and advise as to the options you have regarding price and location.
>>55108461
>>55108501
Why change what's sounding perfect? The only thing I could see making a difference would be the different driver types like planar magnetic or electrostatic.
>>55108531
which sennheiser can you recommend to me? I will buy immediately. this is the best way to get to know the company better
>>55108248
>wide range of genres
>flat with inoffensive treble
>comfortable
AKG K712
>>55108564
Thanks for your input too.
But the question is really simple. Im either going for m50x or m40x. I will go for the m50x as long as the difference is worth the price. In my country the difference being 2x the price.
>>55108583
Depends on your definition of perfect, which here seems to mean value for money.
I would suggest maybe trying a higher end pair of headphones paired with an amp in a hifi store using a cd you know. It might change your mind, but if you don't hear a difference there's no point convincing yourself to buy something you don't want.
>>55108633
Again my advice is don't get either. Neither is really very good and you haven't given us anything to go off. Twice the price might mean they're $400, or $40.
>>55108583
not really, big part of the sound depends on the skill of the company (e.g. HiFiMan, Takstar, Superlux, basically all chink companies copy from european headphone makers since they have their phones made in Chinese factories and factory owner can just steal their technology and sell it around inside the country)
>2016
>Im still using Creative Aurvana Live
Am i doing something wrong?
I got these for $50 did I do horrible? They seem better than I t hought they'd be. But a big audiophile type so I think all is well
>Budget
150-250€
>Location
France
>Source
Phone, sansa clip sport
>Preferred type of headphone
Circumaural
>Open or closed
Any
>Comfort level
Not too hot
Needs a removable cable
>Preferred tonal balance
Dunno
>Preferred music
Classical, jazz, folk, trance, metal
>Past headphones
Portapro, custom one pro
Shortlist:
- akg k702/q701
- beyer dt 770 or 880
- ath m50x
I'd prefer white cans.
>>55108654
So is the copy worse than the original?
>>55108501
>>55108461
I've always used MDR-7506's, I'm on my fourth pair, I simply buy the same when I break/misplace them and I see no reason to "upgrade", although I do acknowledge that higher tier audio makes a significant difference. I'll probably use these all my life as long as Sony doesn't cease production.
>inb4 MUH BRIGHTNESS
>>55108564
bought the m50x first, returned, bought the m40x, still use them today.
>>55108605
I can recommend the hd598 hd600 and hd650. You can likely find the hd600 for close to $300, but the 650 will probably cost more. I don't know any cheap American retailers so I can't really price check that for you.
The K712 seems to fit your bill, especially the soft ear cups part, but if you want to wear them while not lying down you may encounter problems with the suspension band design.
That said if you really like your mids then the best recommendation I can make is sennheiser, beyer and akg mids often sound less forward than on sennheiser headphones making voices and vocals sound like they're a secondary part of the music, instead of taking up part of the whole.
>>55108680
well what do you think
>>55108671
Either stop trying to decide based on extraneous information, or admit you don't care about sound quality and get a cheap pair of fashion cans.
>>55108671
>Budget
Up to 130
>Location
Argentina
>Source
Sansa clip zip
>Preferred type of headphone
Any
>Open or closed
Any
>Comfort level
Needs a removable cable
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Preferred music
Classical, radiohead
>Past headphones
I have a superlux and sony mdr v6
Shortlist:
- ath m40x
- ath m50x
- open to other options
Thanks
>>55108688
That's probably autism.
>>55108711
I don't know, if they're using the same manufacturing machines it would be the same. If they are just taking the blueprints for the headphone design who the hell knows
>>55108732
>neutral
>m40x
>m50x
pick neither
>130
sennheiser hd558 maybe
>>55108622
>>55108700
I will decide on sennheiser and AKG. actually I was doing some reading on what headphones to buy and it seems everybody these days (outside 4chan) recommends the HE400S.
so I will pick one from those three after auditioning them at the shop. thank you both for the advice.
>>55108747
Anon your autism is making you overthink this. The clear inference was that they are trying to copy designs without having access to the same manufacturing equipment, otherwise they wouldn't be making cheap copies in a country without labor laws.
>>55108797
The 400s has rolled off bass and a large treble boost. I would not recommend them.
>>55108837
we'll hear
i'll keep it in mind when auditioning
koss portapro + dragonfly red here, pretty happy with this portable setup but I feel like i'd want another pair of headphones for muh audiofile 24bit remastered album circlejerking, any tips?
>>55108794
>nobass
>neutral
>>55109029
I will never ever get a proper answer on which m40x or m50x is better right?
do you EQ your phone? is there a decent way to do so?
>>55109069
It's a matter of preference.
They have different FR, with roughly similar construction.
The M50 and M50x have a more noticeable bass boost than M40x. Both have some treble edge to them, the increased bass may offset it. M40x costs less, that much holds
>>55109072
>do you EQ your phone?
Why not? I do, at least.
>is there a decent way to do so?
A flexible parametric equalizer, at the minimum.
The wiki has a guide for setting one up for Windows desktops, via Equalizer APO.
>Sansa stuff 100 bucks now
Oh well, any other 50 usd device with decent sound quality? My 6 inches phone is not fit for the gym or running
>>55109288
>>Sansa stuff 100 bucks now
https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Sansa-Clip-MP3-Player/dp/B01FG4UX6A/
>>55109414
>refurbished
>>55109206
is it for desktops or for phones? the APO that is
>>55109426
Stop being so picky.
>>55108926
Buy vynil and appreciate the pops and clicks and distortion.
>>55109029
598 is nobass?
Autistic memer.
Would these be a good beginner's headset? Someone recommended them last time & I want to know if anything's changed.
https://www.amazon.com/AKG-Signature-Reference-Class-Premium-Headphones/dp/B004444O3W
>Location
Source: PC headphone jack, laserdisc player, turntable, possible a sega genesis audio jack
>Preferred type of headphone
No preference
>Open or closed
No preference
>Comfort level
Max
>Preferred tonal balance
High
>Preferred music
Metal, rock, electronic/80s synth,jazz
>Past headphones
Shure headphones that died after a year of use (sounded great while they worked)
>>55109756
Budget? Location?
>>55109756
Forgot location: U.S.
>>55109756
no budget?
sennheiser he-1
>>55109778
No budget? Orpheus.
>>55109798
>>55109781
>>55109776
Budget: $300-$500, & on the higher end that would ONLY be for something that's going to last.
Location is the U.S. Let's do this
>>55109832
Take your pick from the big three. HD600/650, DT880 or K702.
>>55109832
HD600 / HD650 with JDS Labs O2.
No need for DAC just plug 3.5mm male to male Aux cable or 3.5mm to RCA from your onboard.
Click customize. Choose rear power, 1/4", RCA.
https://www.jdslabs.com/products/35/objective2-headphone-amplifier/
>>55109877
What are the things I should consider when comparing the three?
>>55109514
mud =/= bass
>>55109897
Being the big three there are several subjective comparisons to describe their experiences. A quick google search will bring up a selection like this.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/554575/dt880-k702-hd600-a-beginner-audiophiles-thoughts
>>55110018
>headfi reviews
no
>>55109444
>Windows desktops
Reading the wiki would also have been informative.
EQAPO has a system wide effect.
For phones, the only comparable that I can recall is Viper4Android, which is tricker to set up.
>>55109832
HE-400i, Stax 2170, K612, and if you look secondhand, that'll turn up things such as the HE-500 and 560 and other old Stax.
There are many options to choose from.
>>55110139
i was asking for phones, i know about EQAPO thats why i was wondering if it applied for phones. what do you by trickier?
>>55110107
You'd consider the words of a complete stranger on 4chan but not the words of a complete stranger on head-fi?
>>55110158
one doesn't have a product hype agenda
>>55110164
>one doesn't have a product hype agenda
How do you know either stranger has a product hype agenda?
>>55110178
every post on head-fi is product hype. if it's not it gets deleted.
>>55110193
You just won the award for the most retarded thing I've read on 4chan. That's like claiming any post on 4chan that isn't anime hype gets deleted.
>>55110203
it's adorable that somebody who knows absolutely nothing about the hobby or the communities around it is commenting on such things.
>>55110158
Just watch the comments. Conversations end up going: opinion -> sidegrade recommendation -> upgrade recommendation
Repeats like that. It's like >>55110164 says
>>55110178 it's about the attitude and patterns you find. /g/ will often jeer at someone for spending "too much" money. There's a lot of thinly-veiled buyer's remorse on head-fi, and comments "x is just 10% better than y. There's nothing really wrong with y, but if you MUST have the best, go with x."
Head fi will push towards x, /g/ will push towards y.
>>55110203
What is recognising hyperbole?
Oh wait I'm on 4chan, autism is the status quo.
>>55110218
This.
>>55110218
The guy who suggested the big three knows absolutely nothing about the hobby. . .
You don't have to beg for more rope. You'll be handily given as much as you want just by posting as you have been.
>>55110224
>What is recognising hyperbole?
A weak attempt to make up for an obviously stupid comment being made similar to [pic related].
I find it somewhat entertaining that someone who had nothing to do with the previous comments would jump in and defend another's retarded post as "hyperbole" as he clearly had no idea if it was intended as such or not.
>>55110250
>saving meme images you downloaded from kym to support your terrible argument
stop
>>55110277
>complains about meme images
Welcome to 4chan, summerfag.
>>55110288
yer really fitting in now, partner
>>55110250
If it's an impossible blanket statement made for emphasis.... it is hyperbole
>someone who had nothing to do with the previous comments
>implying implications
>>55110288
>everyone who disagrees with me is new!
>backpedaling this hard
>>55110302
>newfag comes in asking from advice
>starts to shitpost when gets the advice
just leave????
>>55109832
You opened up a shitstorm. Follow >>55109890's advice. I own all three K702, DT880, HD600. And a HD800.
You'll enjoy the HD600 most definitely. Or a HD650 if you're into that.
>Budget: $99.99 (Or just $100.00 if the stupid fucking penny didn't exist.)
>Location: United States.
>Source: iMac. (I'd prefer wireless because I fucking hate wires.)
>Preferred type of headphone: Full-sized.
>Open or closed: Closed.
>Comfort level: The absolute highest comfort without sacrificing sound quality.
>Preferred tonal balance: Don't care.
>Preferred music: No favorite genre.
>Past headphones: I had one from Beats, one from Bose, and a Turtle Beach Elite 800x that can actually connect to my iMac via Bluetooth.
>>55110313
you're not even trying at this point. did you really get told that hard?
>>55110302
You'll excuse me if I don't consider the opinion of someone who is obviously new to 4chan in regards to fitting in.
>>55110310
>If it's an impossible blanket statement made for emphasis
Are you also new here or do you honestly believe there are not people who go full retard in their posts?
>everyone who disagrees with me is new!
Specifically pointed out how memes are a part of 4chan's culture and you read that as "disagreement?" Thank you for proving exactly the point that there are people who go full retard here.
>>55110346
>projecting his newfaggotry
unoriginal.
>>55110346
Why even assume that a blanket statement that couldn't RATIONALLY be literal is anything but exaggeration? You'd have to assume someone was delusional rather than retarded to jump right over the obvious hyperbole scenario.
>you read that as "disagreement?"
I've realised that you are actually illiterate. I'll just go back to watching you guys bicker.
>>55110156
V4A has a convolver option, but lacks the parametric option. Convolvers are not directly conparable to PEQ, they go beyond it. They can duplicate the effect of a parametric through a generated impulse response.
Requires you to be able to generate the necessary impulse files, and root of course.
Besides Viper, you have players with built in PEQ for iOS and Android.
my dt770 shit the bed, looking for something with a 150~ eur budget, everything points towards getting another dt770.
any suggestions?
>>55110379
Wait a second. The guy who complained about memes is using memes like 0 of 10?
Either you're new or a hypocrite.
>>55110386
>I've realised that you are actually illiterate
You didn't not, and I did not explicitly quote, "agree" and somehow I failed at literacy for reading "agree?"
You sir, need to stop posting or see pic related.
>>55110462
>uses dated 9gag memes as a terrible attempt to fit in
>wonders why he is called out for it
>>55110457
Someone's never heard of occam's razor
>>55110457
80ohm without an amp, 600 with one, don't half ass it
>>55110496
i had the 80ohm, rebuying it feels.. unexciting.
>>55109832
HD600 is a safe headphone recommendation.
Trust me.
>>55110529
Try the DT990s. They're "fun".
>>55110490
You just keep repeating the same debunked "new" bullshit. There's no point in responding any further as you'll just repeat the same bullshit probably adding to your hypocrisy. That's not entertaining. That's just pathetic because you just don't know when to stop posting. Do you have an immature need to have the last word?
The next post will only contain "It almost hurts to be right so often." You know what is coming so you can address it in your next post. If you respond to both posts you prove to have an immature need to have the last word.
>>55110437
>>55110139
>>55109206
What about for Macs is there a solid alternative to EQAPO?
>>55110548
right to left order of superiority
>>55110559
"Fun" if you like ear drilling treble.
>>55110561
>The next post will only contain "It almost hurts to be right so often."
oh it's this retarded autist.
remember to report and filter the term, it's just shitposting.
https://rbt.asia/g/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=It+almost+hurts+to+be+right+so+often
>>55110573
It almost hurts to be right so often.
>>55110561
>an immature need to have the last word
>projecting while projecting about others' anticipated projection and others' anticipated anticipation
come on now
occam's razor
try it
>>55110571
The 770s have a fair bit of treble too, it's only an issue if they were already EQing away treble on those.
>>55110566
Decreasing or increasing? I will assume increasing?
>>55110613
>K702
>better than any of the others
had a good laugh thanks.
>>55110613
>it's only an issue if they were already EQing away treble on those.
What headphone cannot be "fun" with EQing? This response makes most any headphone suggestion pointless.
>>55110565
For Windows, the system wide solution before EQAPO was to route a VST plugin to the audio output.
That still is the solution for Macs and Linux. Mess around with Soundflower to use AU Lab or some other plugin.
Or maybe there is some more convenient solution, I haven't checked in a while.
>>55110636
Well there is a limit to how much you can EQ. The 990s would have different limits to the 770s.
>>55103830
Definitely 3.0. The 300 II is from a weird transitional phase when they catered their budget segment to the Beats crowd. Compared to my old CX 200, the 300 II sounded muddy as shit.
The x.0 series was pretty well-received in general.
>>55110685
>Well there is a limit to how much you can EQ.
No shit? I wonder why I said "most any?"
>>55110712
You're arguing a point I never made
I'm saying that anon had less of a chance of enjoying the DT990's treble if they were already trying to reduce the treble on the DT770.
So the DT990 may not turn out to be fun if treble is a dealbreaker, which the above implied.
>>55110751
>You're arguing a point I never made
Bullshit. You suggested the DT990. I pointed out a well known issue with the DT990. In response you said the issue can be fixed with EQing. To which I pointed out your solution can be used to just about every headphone meaning it is a retarded solution that shouldn't be needed in the first place.
>if they were already
Thank you for admitting it is a redundant suggestion.
>>55104352
are you talking about these pads?
>https://www.amazon.com/Brainwavz-Velor-Memory-Replacements-Earpads/dp/B00MFDX4YO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1466104164&sr=8-1&keywords=hm5+pads
It seems it will make the tascam from on ear to over the ear headphones.
>>55110879
These
http://www.mp4nation.net/brainwavz-hm5-thick-memory-foam-earpad-suitable-for-large-over-the-ear-headphones-1pc
or https://www.amazon.com/Brainwavz-Replacement-Memory-Foam-Earpads/dp/B00MFDT894/
I have the MP4Nation HM5 Pads. In April there was a 20% off sale.
>>55110879
You get a 2 Pads. A pair. If you're concerned you can ask the seller I guess.
>>55110879
>>55111039
Thanks anon for the pic, since I am a poorfag, these will work.
>>55107892
Piston Air > KZ ED 9 > Piston 3
>Budget
100 USD
>Location
U.S
>Source
Vinyl, Chromebook with Fiio Dac
>Preferred type of headphone
On ear/ Over, Open
>Comfort level
Very comfy pls
>Preferred tonal balance
Flat, or slightly warmer
>Preferred music
Jazz, Metal, Hip Hop
>Past headphones
Grado sr60i, koss portapro, sony mdr 7506
My biggest concern is soundstage, what's the best soundstage I can get for under 100?
This might be off topic, but I just recently came into possession of a Sansui G-7500. I pulled it out of a dumpster, & I'm trying to figure out what to do with it.
Thoughts? I'm afraid to plug it in. Who knows if it's wet inside, or has dust that could short something out. How do I approach getting this running?
>>55111576
Buy a $5.50 USB Endoscope Camera on eBay and look for yourself. That's the usual low priced ones. Or $10~ on Aliexpress or eBay for Buy It Now.
>>55111334
open it and post a pic here
>>55111576
I mean win. I won a $5.50 endoscope. Mistype.
>>55111576
>how deep is a human ear canal?
>The adult human ear canal extends from the pinna to the eardrum and is about 2.5 centimetres (1 in) in length.
Help me out, anons. My sennheiser HD558s are starting to get rattly on low end stuff on one side, so I'm looking for some upgrades from them.
>Budget
200 Freedom fries, hopefully. I'd go over a bit, but I would rather not.
>Location
U.S.
>Source
Fiio E10K
>Preferred type of headphone
I already have some IEMs so I'm looking for full headphones.
>Open or closed
Open, preferably. However, if it sounds like a closed headphone would be better for what I want, I'm fine with that.
>Comfort level
Real comfy. I wear my HD 558s for entire days, constantly, and I have not once had any discomfort from these headphones. I want something right along that area of comfy.
>Preferred tonal balance
I really like the sound of the HD558s, but I wish they had a little bit more low end. Just a little more would be fine, just enough so metal and harsher genres don't feel so lifeless, sometimes. Everything sounds real nice and controlled on these, but harder music genres lose a bit of their edge because of it, and poppier stuff loses some it's luster.
>Preferred music
I listen to everything. Harsh noise to radio pop. I want something that is pretty neutral so nothing sounds weird when I use the headphones. I also watch movies and play single player games with my HD558s, so I would like them to be a replacement for this, as well. If that's at all possible. If not, just focus on something that would be nicer for music.
>Past headphones
HD558s
Shure se215s
What is a good step up from the HD558s for someone who wants something similar, but a little more lively while still being neutral. I was looking at some AKG701/Q7010s and Massdrop x AKG K7XX as they look rather tempting. But, I'm just not sure.
Any help or reccs are appreciated.
>>55111669
>starting to get rattly on low end stuff on one side
Hair.
Open it up and remove hair. It's a mosquito buzz noise right? When bass plays.
>>55111613
It's going to be awhile. May not be able top get to it for a week, but will keep /g/ posted.
>>55111669
Also if driver membranes are deformed try opening it up and use stick tape to gently pull the creases. Pic related.
Use tape and a toothpick to lightly dab the tape onto membrane and gently pull.
>>55105731
Fidelio X2
>>55111683
>>55111727
You might be onto something, anons. I'll check that out. Might as well see if anyone has some reccs for me as well, just so I can get an idea of where to go from these headphones.
So you can get an idea of what I'm talking about. And cause it's easy for me to reproduce it here.
>http://www.audiocheck.net/soundtests_headphones.php
when I go on the quality test on this site. My left side sounds like it is actually rattling. Like it's shaking and that sound is not present on the right side.
>>55111840
It almost sounds like a crackling sound sometimes. Like, my drivers are making popcorn. I'll open them up and see for any trouble.
How are HD598? Any better alternatives for $150?
>>55104352
since when do the takstar's cost 100$?
I got mine for 37$
>>55112016
m40x
Don't wanna fill out the form since I have a small question, what are some good earbuds for 100$ or less?
I currently have the sennheiser MX 365 and they are great, I don't want the ones you have to jam deep inside your ear, these are the only kind I'll use. Was thinking of just getting another pair of these but the foam keeps coming off. I use to love the old apple ones before they changed the design
>>55106695
>>55106897
AKG K7XX is known to have this problem in early models. if you have a recent drop though, it shouldn't be there...
sorry to tell you..
>Budget
~30-50 USD
>Location
US
>Source
My x220, iphone5c and my shit realtek onboard audio for my desktop, nothing fancy
>Preferred type of headphone
Looking at IEM for now, may get an over ear set later
>Open or closed
>Muh IEM's
>Comfort level
I want to be able to wear them for at least a couple hours.
I live specifically in Florida and it gets hot as balls, consequently I sweat a lot.
>Preferred tonal balance
what ever is decent for general use
>Preferred music
I listen to a wide range of music depending on what I am in the mood for as well as using voip software on my x220 while I am out
Classical, rock, EDM (mostly ambient trance like EDM and related stuff but house music rubs me wrong) are the major 3.
>Past headphones
Logitech gaymer headphones
the IEM's you get with iPhones and stuff
a few pairs of the lower end Sennheiser over-ear's
I was looking at the Beteran KZ ATE KZ-ATE because they look like they are receiving generally decent reviews and they are cheap.
I am a poorfag/frugal so I can't imagine spending more then $50 on some headphones.
Anyone know if AKG is actually made in Austria? Is Beyerdynamic actually made in Germany too?
I'm thinking about buying an AKG under 100 bucks. Need one because earbuds aren't good for my ears.
DO YOU WANT EAR SOUND COMFORT DETONATION?
how much difference do DACs make, exactly?
I got the magni 2 amp but I'm using it with this $30 berhinger USB thing. would replacing that with the modi really be that noticeable?
2 questions boys.
1. Will a sansa clip be able to drive a dt770 80 ohm effectively? Not just loudness, but bass response as well (nwavguy said they can be muddy if not properly driven)
2. How do they sound for genres like indie rock, jazz, and classical?
>>55113668
Do you need a clip+ as a source for bigg-ass headphones?
>>55113623
probably wouldn't change anything at all
>>55113695
Pardon?
>>55112645
You talking about the bass rattle? It's not a rattling sound on top of the audio, the audio itself is being shredded.
>>55109756
yeahhhhh slice that shit... So juicy
>>55113033
Cheaper AKG are made in China. And cheaper rose to 500+$ headphones recently.
I don't know about Beyer.
>>55113767
fuck dude, sorry to hear that.
Incidentally I received a k7xx 2 days ago, but immediately gave it away. I thought they were total garbage, I was shocked by how poor they were. Looking into it, AKG is experimenting a lot with both cost cutting and with making the sound profile more """popularly appealing""". Digging through head-fi, you can find lots of pissed off people. Last people know, it's manufactured dirt cheap somewhere in china.
Bro we got rekt
I might be looking to spend $200-$300
I live in the US
would be using headphones with my pc that has an MSI gaming 5 mobo that supposedly has a dedicated amp on one of the 3.5mm jacks but I assume that it doesn't work well compared to even cheap headphone amps
open/closed doesn't matter to me but I need to be able to wear them for 8+ hours at a time
I currently mostly play games and occasionally listen to music, I would probably prefer neutral headphones the most
currently I have cheap sennheiser HD-280s that I got for like $75, will I see a significant step up in audio quality in the $200-300 range enough to bother to replace them and if so what should I get?
>>55103440
Define precise. To me precision is roughly accuracy, especially in the 2-5kHz range. MDR-V6, Etymotic ER-4S and HD600 are examples of what I'd consider to be precise headphones.
K550 sounds too bassy and the treble is too bright to be precise IMO.
>>55104736
HD650 and HD600 literally have the same bass response if you level them around at 200Hz.
>tfw Audeze headphones have the exact signature I want
>tfw Audeze headphones look really nice
>tfw Audeze headphones have fucking awful quality assurance and build quality, just like Hifiman
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>55114657
I don't care about that, I found them uncomfortable however. Then again, I only tried LCD-2 and LCD-3.
>>55111224
Self bump, can anyone help? I was thinking either some cheap superlux 668b or maybe the philips shp9500?
