http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/06/critical-adobe-flash-bug-under-active-attack-currently-has-no-patch/
IT'S OVER, AIDSDOBE IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT
>>55079433
This is a month old exploit they still have no fix on and there are speculation there are at least two more that are not detected but in the wild.
what a fucking joke
>>55079433
That's what they get for insipid garbage like Adobe Cloud.
This has happened pretty much every week for the past 5-10 years. The result is always that normies continue using it anyways.
>>55079555
There is a bank that just recently switched to flash based internet banking. Yes.
>>55079433
who still uses flash as a player.
I only use the software (because it's a damn good animation tool), but the plugin is unreliable as fuck
>>55079580
I use it for streaming
>>55079740
>streaming
>>55079580
What >>55079740 said.
>>55079856
Hey. Sometimes it's nice not having to spend two months downloading a torrent of some old series nobody cares about that has one Russian dude seeding for 20 minutes every Monday or go full autism and start hanging out in some private piracy networks.
That and porn. My god the porn.
>>55079740
>streaming through the browser
yeah, you better install Kodi right now and get the Exodus Add-on
>>55079901
>Exodus Add-on
what's that for?
>>55079921
An Add-on for Kodi, on which you can stream many TV-shows and movies(in HD)
it pulls its sources from many hosters, so it takes away the time off you waisting to find a working mirror
if you have never realy worked with Kodi, here is a step by step add-on installation guide: https://seo-michael.co.uk/how-to-install-exodus-for-kodi/
I recommend checking out his other tutorials for other add-ons which might interest you, like Live-TV or such
i disabled flash a few months ago. didn't notice any difference until i wanted to watch a livestream on youtube. you can easily browse without flash.
Are click to play disabling add ons good enough to protect yourself?
Is pepperflash in chrome/ium is affected?
>>55080128
>until i wanted to watch a livestream on youtube
Watching a livestream right now on YouTube, with Flash disabled.
Even streaming isn't an excuse for flash at this point; websites just need to catch up and drop flash player already.
>>55079740
Did you mean 'screaming'?
>>55080305
It's only a workaround and it's an ugly one, too.
I'm not lieing when I say that I do not miss flash. Even most modern porn sites have HTML5 nowadays. Heck, a few days ago the HTML5 beta of tnaflix went live and replaced the old flash version of the site. Most stream hosters (even the ones for anime, which I don't even watch) offer a HTML5 version if you change your user agent string to some mobile device (Random Agent Spoofer addon for FF).
Flash was cool when we had no consent of about how video should be implemented in HTML1-4, but these times are finally over. So fuck flash.
HTML5 on youtube desyncs audio so I'm stuck with flash for now.
>>55080783
What kind of shit computer do you have to be able to even fuck up watching YouTube videos?
>>55079880
youtube-dl http://vimeo.com/fetishporn | mpv
or most likely just this
mpv http://vimeo.com/fetishporn
Like I give a fuck.
>>55079880
If you watch shitty SD porn from 10 years ago on shady porn streaming sites using flash, then you quite frankly deserve to get v&.
As I'm aware, HTML5 doesn't natively support full screen mode on video elements and you have to use JS. Is this really the case?
>>55081016
You can't even play html5 videos whatsoever without javascript.
>>55079577
>flash based internet banking
what is this for real?
flash > silverlight. at least the former is available on decent operating systems.
>>55081037
Huh? Sure you can.
>>55081149
He means on sites that use customized video players and such, by binding event listeners to controls, instead of using the browser's default player.
>>55079580
What else would I use on /f/?
>>55079433
Adobe themselves don't give a shit about Flash anymore.
Unless this involves the source code leak of any of their photo or video editors, it has no affect on Adobe. Don't be so fucking retarded.
>>55081187
Right, I thought so. Is it best to just build your own, that will probably look like shit if done quickly, or are there any good alternatives?
>>55081096
I believe it's mandatory in South Korea. All of the banks have an online system that has to match the government's regulations and it uses an outdated IE and either Flash or Java - I forget which plugin specifically.
>>55081239
Actually it's worse than Flash or Java, it's ActiveX, which MS doesn't maintain anymore IIRC.
>>55081239
>>55081469
South Korea is moving away from ActiveX. By 2017, 90% of the top 100 websites will no longer require ActiveX for banking or online shopping.
>>55081533
>mfw i realize my country is far more technologically advanced than south korea
wow
>>55081227
If you want your player to function for people with Javascript disabled, then you'll probably want to just have a <video> tag, and when the page loads have the player built up through JS, so that it doesn't have broken off pieces without JS.
That said, there are a lot of HTML5 video players that work well for different things, that aim to imitate how Flash video players are. Could probably just use one of them.
>>55079433
Oh noes, /f/ is doomed.
>>55082255
who gives a fucking shit
what the fuck is /f/ about? you retards post little flash games and animations from the early 2000s or what? what the fuck is the point of that board?
chatroulette
how about these faggot fuck sites finish their html5 players so we don't have to use the shit
nobody cares about your kike ass copy protection, just get it fucking done
but how will enjoy loops on /f/ if adobe shits itself?
>>55082321
/f/ is a historic board young summerfriend
Thank god. This is what happens when you run proprietary shitware.
>flash exploit every week
>>55079433
Every day is zero day at Adobe!
>xhamster
>motherless
>xvideo
>youporn
>pornhub
>youtube
They all provide a html5 player, who have flash installed ?
>>55083025
Only site I can think of that doesn't is twitch.
>>55083060
Twitch added it too
>>55083095
no, the controls use html5 but the player is still flash
and its all because html5 doesn't have inherent copy protection
>>55083113
>and its all because html5 doesn't have inherent copy protection
It does, It has stuff like EME.
>>55083174
>EME
wasn't aware it had been added
i guess that just makes twitch faggots then for not getting it done in a timely manner
>>55083060
>twitch
I just use mpv+ytdl
>>55079433
How the fuck is flash player still vulnerable? Is there not some security expert that has every line of their code? It's ridiculous that this keeps on happening
What the fuck happened to Mozilla's Shumway? Did they just give up?
>>55083722
Bloat.
>>55079580
>>55079433
is flash-plugin vulnerable to these attacks?
>>55083220
Twitch literally has one guy assigned to HTML and an entire team assigned to Flash.
>>55086393
So what you're saying is, that Twitch can't switch to HTML5, because doing so would result on firing all of their devs, who were hired in the first place to work on an already dying platform?
If they were any smaller, they would already be dead.
>>55079433
I do not care. Use windows for over 20 years and never been infected by a virus, besides I do not have money in the bank, only debts to pay, only use gold in everyday and he is kept in my basement for four M18 Claymore.
>>55086393
it sucks their userbase consists mostly of gayming lusers
too little pressure on them to ditch flash
>>55086643
it's not always about you m8
>>55083113
sorry, this is wrong. twitch can be forced to stream in HTML5.
>>55087218
It's never worked for me on the streams I watch.
>>55087236
then it's a problem on your end, even the shitty browser on the Nintendo 3DS can stream twitch via html5.
>>55087218
>twitch can be forced to stream in HTML5
Oh cool...
How?
>>55087424
https://player.[twitch url]/?channel=[channelname]&html5
why is the spam filter on this site so shit btw
>>55087462
Works, but seems like they need to work on it a lot, so I guess it's understandable they have rolled that thing out.
But then again, they've been working on it for months; why isn't it the default already? Or at least not falling back onto it when Flash is disabled?
people still use flash in 2016?
What the hell for? If this was 2007 i could understand, but in the current year?
Who even makes flash applications anymore?
>>55087424
>watching the throwing jew
>>55087462
>>55087424
I use https://github.com/bastimeyer/livestreamer-twitch-gui if I absolutely have to watch shit on twitch
pretty comfy
pic related
>>55080783
That is a problem with your system and configuration, don't blame youtube or HTML5 for your badly configured system.
If it goes out of sync for you then there's something wrong with your browser / computer
>>55079433
>IT'S OVER, AIDSDOBE IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT
People who have Adobe Flash installed didn't listen the last 10 times it was the cause of a 0day malware distribution in the past year
People who have Adobe Flash installed won't listen the next 10 times either.
They're probably also using Windows XP. It's the same mentality. i.e. people who actively WANT to get cryptolockers
>>55080915
Never use the former, always the latter
>>55081227
>are there any good alternatives?
Provide a HTTP direct download link that will open in the end user's favorite local media player when clicked upon.
>>55087733
I've found that a lot of people (all of them chrome users) don't even know that they're using flash because chrome doesn't show it in chrome://extensions/ but hides it in chrome://plugins/ which isn't accessible through the menu
Kind of worrying if you ask me
>>55087673
Just paste the link into Baka MPlayer and it handles it for you. I have an extension for it that makes it much more convenient.
>>55086535
Twitch is going to be assimilated into youtube pretty soon, mark my words.
>>55086643
>only use gold in everyday
Okay Mr. Feimstein, how does it feel to be a total kike
>>55087733
>People who have Adobe Flash installed didn't listen the last 10 times it was the cause of a 0day malware distribution in the past year
>
>People who have Adobe Flash installed won't listen the next 10 times either.
>
>They're probably also using Windows XP. It's the same mentality. i.e. people who actively WANT to get cryptolockers
So your average /g/ user then i take
>>55079433
>new month
>new critical flash bug
>new "no patch yet" panic
Is it already time something's gonna be done about that fucking mess?
>>55087853
EVERYTHING will be assimilated into Google pretty soon.
Twitch... has some time.
>>55082321
>what the fuck is /g/ about? you retards post mini netbooks and keyboards from the early 2000s or what? what the fuck is the point of that board?
>>55087905
When people stop playing and buying Flash crap then people will stop using flash. Also better options for programming/animation noobs who just want to make a porn game would be nice.
>>55087927
Twitch is owned by Microsoft. That's the only thing saving them. If MS and Google partner, then game over.
>>55082511
you mean a webm?
>>55087771
you mean the same people who don't know that their Babylon extension is what's linking ads on every sentence?
>>55087935
So the answer is "no"?
>>55087943
>If MS and Google partner
Google buying MS, when?
That said, MS and Google have agreed to work on certain projects (like recently with AOMedia) so who knows?
>>55087943
When the hell did Microsoft buy Twitch?
>Haha just don't use flash guys, it's easy!
>You just never have to watch porn or watch half the videos on the internet that aren't hosted by Youtube! That simple!
>>55087973
Pretty much, though if ANYONE could make a better noob animation/programming platform flash would eventually die. Until then, we're stuck with it.
>>55087995
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitch.tv
>Twitch is a live streaming video platform owned by Twitch Interactive, a subsidiary of Amazon.com Inc.
Looks like he meant Amazon.
>>55087996
Most streaming sites I visit that aren't YouTube have HTML5 alternatives.
Those that use Flash, I just rip the FLV url from the site and play it in whatever.
>>55088048
that guy confirmed for having an unhealthy obsession with Microsoft
>>55087771
If they use chrome they deserve to get cucked
flash has been dead for a very long time, new friend.
all major websites (or at least those that matter), has phased out flash as an requirement to experience their content. only a few, irrelevant instances remains:
>old 90's porn sites
>flash game site
>some media sites
>>55088493
There's still the occasional local news article I see that has a Flash Video player that's a decade old, and runs like shit cause their tech guy doesn't get paid enough to update anything.
>>55079433
This happens all the time, the question is why is it still not dead already? Isn't supporting it a big enough liability?
But the answer is as always, users don't care. Users don't care when you open a single page which causes RAM usage to spike up to 100%, they don't care that there are more than few websites pretending to be official flash download sites, and this one hurts me the most, they don't care that even Adobe is using its software as it's being used by advertisement overloaded websites by trying to get away with changing settings and installing additional software during installation.
In the end, browsers should kill it, nothing else could at this point but I'm sure as soon as someone ditches it, there's going to be one implement a good enough solution for a year and keep flash under life support.
>>55081803
you shoudnt look up how japan handles such shit they go ape level with activex but they literly are a nation of tech illiterats that foster a mage elite cast that somehow maintains that shit and by just being cryptic as fuck with there language dont have giant exploit and malware waves crush there shit
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4bc4ri/japan_chose_activex_as_a_replacement_for_java/
>>55088706
I can't wait till 2023 or so when internet explorer and ActiveX is completely dead and unsupported.
>Bankrupt
I'm quite sure the majority of their income comes from Creative products anyway.
>>55089177
Why are they not killing it then? It's literally smoking addiction of the internet, it has few advantages for very specific cases but most of the time it ends in cancer and earns Adobe a terrible name.
I think they're catering to sleezy advertisers, and somehow make a lot of money out of it.
>>55087996
You can watch all that porn in mpv with youtube-dl scripts
>>55089278
They're not killing it because plenty of things still use Flash... Sure it's bad for their reputation but suddenly stopping support for software when millions of people (including businesses) would be worse.
>>55089339
Who's going to use flash when flash ads will be a thing of the past? Mid 2016 Google won't accept flash ads anymore and 2017 they're killing off their flash ads entirely.
>>55089339
But even long term support plans usually have a planned end date, why are they still not saying we're killing it off next 5 years or something? Everyone is trying to kill it, Adobe keeps it on life support, only people benefiting from this are sleezy advertisers. How hard it is for non-hardcore advertisement based websites to remove flash?
>>55087996
youtube use html5 videos, so does (for example) pornhub and the rest of the developed web.
i don't know what kind of backwater, pre-y2k sites you visit, but that's your problem right there...
>or you are simply an moron, like most people
>>55088706
>nip webdevs go the way of the gook
>>55089143
you can wait and 2023 will come but dont belive a second that nippons will switch away from windows ie or XP as all they care for is the outdated programs they already have
they still produce software that is build FOR XP
and activex is already outdated and defacto unsupported today
>>55089435
>nip
>go the way of the gook
There's not fucking difference between them.
The only real difference is that gooks actually have some good gamers, but that's about it.
>>55089368
Not even advertisers will benefit from flash in 2017
>>55089458
Japanese are white anon
Flash is still good to have because old Flash animations are pieces of internet history that should be preserved and viewed whenever someone feels like it.
>>55089415
What about anime streaming sites? Last time I checked they still needed Flash.
>>55079580
obscure pornsites still use flash
>>55089759
>streaming anime
CrunchyRoll and Funimations are supposedly sticking with Flash because of contracts or something. That's what's circulated anyways. It's probably just cause they're slow to catch up.
On the other hand, unofficial sites like KissAnime offer HTML5 alternatives.
>>55089759
>Streaming anime
>>55089759
>the current year
>le-streaming-may-may
>not torrenting in hd
>superiority_chuckle.exe
can't believe it, but i feel nice for once...
>gogoanime.io (html5 stream support)
there' go knock yourself out with your ching-chong-kiddie-cartoons
>>55089904
>Video Quality
>Audio Quality
These no longer apply, unless you have shit internet.
>Changing Subtitles
This is implementation specific. Most sites choose to hardcode their subs, but they CAN be dynamically displayed through JavaScript. There are even JavaScript libraries for rendering subtitle formats.
>Flash
>Ads
>Viewing time
Implementation specific.
>>55089983
>These no longer apply
How are you enjoying half the bitrate?
>>55089904
>audiovisual quality concerns me to autistic levels
>but trashy animation quality and recycled highschool bitches doing highschool bitch things plots I'm perfectly fine with
>>55092759
Who ever said that, autist? Good anime is objectively worse when streaming and so is bad anime.
Plus, someone needs to update that picture. With torrenting you have RSS feed downloaders so you can begin downloading the instant the episode comes out then watch whenever you feel like it. Torrenting is literally more convenient than streaming.
>>55092893
>objectively worse
There's a certain point when "objective quality" of audiovisual fidelity stops meaning shit for its benefit is absolutely negligible or even counterproductive.
>story is no harder to follow in lower fi
>two jaggy pixels won't ruin the aesthetic of the show
>you save a ton of bandwidth and contribute to preserving the environment
>>55093142
Bandwidth is irrelevant to everyone but Australia and the east coast of the US.
There point is that it is an objective improvement and, more importantly, more convenient.
>>55093523
>Bandwidth is irrelevant to everyone but Australia and the east coast of the US.
Oh won't you just look at Mr. streetwise here, that's fucking wrong faggot and you know it
The only way it can even compare convenience wise is if you're actively following a show.
And beyond a certain point better audiovisual quality is provably placebo. And even below that, it could be argued that the grit and imperfections themselves might add more character to the medium if it's that kind of show.
