Are SSDs made of fucking gold?
Why are they so fucking expensive?
lots of expensive r&d goes into ssd tech so that it can be cheaper in the short term.
ssds are already so much cheaper and better than they used to be
just give it time, hdds had the same problem and now they are dirt cheap
>>55057070
That SSD weighs 4oz, therefore if it was made entirely of gold it would cost you around $5K.
>>55057070
Considering the size the memory chips are probably the highest capacity ones available and thus the most expensive.
>>55057161
Thank you Dwight
>>55057070
Not cheap for a TB when you can get 2 at 125$
>>55057186
it's portable ssd
>>55057161
thanks dwight
>>55057194
I know but still... if you just want storage it's just too pricey.
>>55057070
very small + portable ssd + new technology
I am pissed as well, but it takes some time to become cheaper. They are still trying to sell HDs as much as possible
>>55057117
>wait 10 years
Seriously?
>portable SSD
>usb 3.0
>>55057223
usb 3.0 saturates at 5Gbps = 625MBps
Even if you account for 50% overhead that's still 312.5 MBps, which is good enough for low/mid end SSDs
AFAIK there is no alternative high speed high volume data storage, so SSDs are as good as it gets for now.
Just change it to USB 3.1 and you're golden
>>55057211
>if you just want storage it's just too pricey
If you just want storage and you're buying a fucking SSD you're doing it wrong.
>>55057220
Wait 10 years or pay the fuck up you entitled millennial.
>SSD
>External
Fucking WHY
>>55057728
Why not?
>>55057687
>born in 1973
>millennial
I'm quite happy with my HDD speed thanks bruv
>>55057745
>I'm quite happy with my HDD speed thanks bruv
You just don't know any better. Using a HDD based system is torture after accustomed to an SSD. It's one of the biggest quality-of-life improvements you can make to a computer.
>>55057728
Not sensitive to drops or being thrown around. Makes perfect sense externally.
>>55057791
I've used them, I just don't see what the big deal is. Wow now it loads slightly faster, big whoop. Maybe these millennials you speak of just have no patience.
So is it retarded to use ONLY SSDs? I remember asking this question before and getting answers from two camps; that you could either pretty much never ever in your lifetime 'burn out' an SSD or that it would happen in less than two years. Which is it?
>>55057728
>not wanting an external drive with no moving parts, much lower power consumption and much much faster speeds compared to shitty 2.5" HDDs
Have fun living in the past faggot
>pissed at ssd prices
I just can't comprehend the level of entitlement some people have
You faggots are the most disgusting shitheads I've ever seen, you're always looking for flaws, ALWAYS.
You could get an ssd for $100 and you'd find something to complain about.
Here's a protip: stop being such poor, entitled, insufferable faggots.
>>55057823
Buy Intel SSDs or Sandisk Ultras.
You will now never kill an SSD before you want to upgrade.
Don't touch samshit or kingston or any of that shit.
>>55057823
The former
>>55057853
Basically, my thought is that I currently have a 1TB HDD, which I don't even have half full; I uninstall games and shit when I'm done with it and a lot of my music is cloud based, so I just don't use a lot of room. I could easily get by with a 500GB SSD alone.
I guess I could get an SSD and keep the HDD as an emergency backup, but it's super old by now, I think I bought this fucker in like 2009.
>>55057223
>>portable SSD
>>usb 3.0
>transferring from 5400rpm internal HDD
>>55057848
Is this your first day?
>>55057823
Depends on the SSD. Old SSDs ran out of writes pretty quickly, but you're not going to run out of writes in a new quality SSD assuming TRIM is working correctly. That doesn't mean they won't fail eventually, it just won't be because the memory stopped being writeable.
>>55057468
isn't 300mbps speed of Sata 3 HDD?
>>55057877
By the time a good 500gb SSD actually dies, you'll be able to buy a 2tb for $50.
>>55057903
It's more like 80-150 MBps, and only with linear read/write - seek time fucks your shit up once you start dealing with small/fragmented files.
>>55057877
Next time you upgrade I would go 120gb ssd and 500gb hard drive though 240gb ssds aren't a big cost jump for double the space and often better performance
>>55057186
Where can I get a 2TB SSD for 125 dollars?
>>55057728
Faster and more durable than an HDD
>>55057903
I've not seen a consumer hard disk that could sustain 300MB/s. 375MB/s is the limit of SATA 3, if that is what you were asking.
>>55057903
WD blacks apparently max out at little over 200 MB/s for sustained read speed assuming you get a 5 or 6 TB one: http://www.wdc.com/wdproducts/library/SpecSheet/ENG/2879-771434.pdf
Note that that's the absolute maximum, in practice it's going to be slower than that except, perhaps, in ideal conditions. So the only way to get 300 MB/s sustained speeds would be to get a 10 000 RPM enterprise drive.
>>55057950
>120gb SSD
>Mid 2016
Fuck off. 500gbs are $120.
>>55058005
If you need more than 240GB and it's not going in a laptop with a single drive bay you're doing it wrong.
>>55057822
We dont for the most part. Found my brothers old compaq with an athlon 64 3400+. Installed lubuntu and now im grateful for the speed of the new stuff we have now
>>55058021
>want ssd+hdd
>laptop with mSATA and 2.5" slots
>only the 2.5" slot is SATA 3
fuck lenovo
>>55058021
If you only need 500 GB of storage and aren't on poverty-tier budget, there's little point in getting a HDD(except for backups), let alone an SSD+HHD combo which will cost at least as much as the single 500 GB SSD would cost.
>>55058050
>want ssd
>laptop with SATA 2 connection
fuck old lenovo!
>>55058021
Or you stop being a pleb and go SSD in all your devices with a couple external HDD or a NAS to store you bulk data in.
There's no reason to not go 500gb, though. Gives you more space to work with (especially with retarded modern games needing 50gb despite having pathetic textures) and it'll last longer while often being quicker in terms of IOPS.
>>55058118
>Or you stop being a pleb and go SSD in all your devices with a couple external HDD or a NAS to store you bulk data in.
That's my point dumbass. 240GB SSD in all your devices and you don't need anything more because you have your server. I excluded laptops because they're the one thing where you don't always have a high speed connection to your server.
>>55058155
There's no reason to go 240 or 120 in anything, though. 500gbs last longer due to wear leveling, they generally have better IOPS which is what you actually feel (how often do you transfer shit big enough to use 500mb/s) and gives you the benefit of more usable room.
You're not going to run AAA games off a NAS, and if you want more than a few installed at a time 240/250 is no longer enough.
Shit, if halo 5 comes to the PC that fucker is like 70gb by the time everything's said and done.
>>55058189
>There's no reason to go 240 or 120 in anything, though
Except for the part where you don't need more than 240GB since you've got an NAS
>You're not going to run AAA games off a NAS
Wanna bet? That's how I play most of my games.
>>55058227
Then you're a moron who's accepting lower performance for the sake of little money.
>>55058080
I use an SSD over sata2 and you can't tell the difference unless you so tons of sequential reads and writes.
It's still magnitudes faster over a HDD and especially 2.5" HDDs.
>>55057070
Im thinking about buying a kingston ssd for my laptop.
Trying to get better battery life.
>>55057967
not ssd
>>55057995
Sata revision 3 or sata 3gbps? Because that's wrong in both cases.
>>55057853
Why so salty about samshit? Their SSDs are top tier.
>>55058275
>lower performance
kek, I'm the moron? The only thing an SSD does is make the game load faster.
>>55058368
If you're just browsing and shitposting then don't bother with SSDs but if you actually work with your machine it pays off.
Anyone that does any kind of rendering, editing large video/audio/image files and the like will know and appreciate SSDs for what they can do.
>>55058409
The fuck are you on about? An SSD is a worthy upgrade for any machine.
>>55057194
>literally a regular ssd with a usb controller strapped to it and a case
>>55058422
I know, I have SSDs in all my machines. For some people it really isn't that big of a deal though.
My mother for example leaves her laptop running mostly, the rest of the time it's in standby so she rarely cold boots it. It's almost pointless upgrading her HDD for example.
Even the lowered power consumption barely makes a difference as it's always plugged in anyway.
>>55058441
What do you think a portable HDD is? It's the exact same concept.
>>55057853
>Sandisk Ultras
>Don't touch samshit
Brah, Samsung SSDs are more reliable and have a longer warranty than Sandisk.
Got SSDs in my computer. SSDs in RAID. SSDs in my NAS. This is the meme to fall for, anon.
>>55058629
>tfw 20+TB raid 6 with SSDs not affordable
FUGGIN END IT SENPAI WHY EVEN LIVE
Because fast and memory costs a lot. Especially when you want a lot of memory.
>>55057070
Why don't you make your own? See how expensive that is you little cunt.
>>55058696
How much does fast cost?
>>55057745
>>>55057687
>>born in 1973
>>millennial
>I'm quite happy with my HDD speed thanks bruv
>He's over 40 years old
>He still posts on 4chan
>>55058774
>spent over half my life on 4chan
At least I'm not NEET anymore.
>>55058785
>At least I'm not NEET anymore
How? Send halp pls
>>55058813
Get a job dumbass
>tfw you remember when a 1TB internal SSD was over $1000
>now LogicalIncrements lists 2TB SSDs and they're <$1k
stop whining
>>55058832
>no experience
>7 year employment gap
I think it's easier to just ride it out and then kill myself
>>55057687
O-okay, Goldberg-san.
>>55058870
Your local McDonald's won't care about any of that.
>>55058845
I remember filling your mom's cunt and now here you are shitposting.
Really makes you think doesn't it?
>>55057223
>>55057878
It would have the advantage of being safer from physical shock... If that's important to you.
>>55057822
you are being dense, SSDs are better performance wise, they are a huge improvement over a standard 5400rpm hdd and more so if you are loading stuff and lots of files regularly for work.
I certainly hope you are not a 40 year old turbo faggot that defends cheap ass hdds because he has 20Tb of lolis and cp.
>>55057223
What would you choose instead? Thunderbolt? There's not much point of it being portable if you can't fucking connect it to anything you cocksniffer.
why are these things even more expensive?
>>55057070
Because retards pay that much would be my guess. Wait 6-12 months they'll be half the price.
>>55058958
Low demand.
>>55057070
what the fuck man
why isn't a 2PB nanoSD card with 10GBps read/write on the shelf for $15?
>>55058972
It will take a little longer than that. I bought a 60gb OCZ roughly 6 years ago for £120 or so and a few months ago I bought a 500gb for a similar price.
Storage increases have slowed down a little and so have prices. I can't wait until I can get 4tb of SSD storage for ~120 britbongmonies.
>>55058996
>why isn't a 2PB nanoSD card with 10GBps read/write on the shelf for $15?
Because that way they can't milk you from 64mb all the way to 2pb?
>>55058080
i have a 600gb sata 2 ssd in my thinkpad
it was dirt cheap because there high likelihood it will brick itself and delete all my data
>>55059040
Intel SSDs are gud you know
>>55058327
Sorry, I assumed he meant SATA 3Gbps, not SATA 3.0.
3Gbs is most certainly 375MB/s, though.
I remember when mine was 130 bucks for 128gb, that was only 4 years ago. I remember when my 64gb hdd was like 200 or something
>>55058311
then shut the fuck up
>>55059074
Maximum theoretical speed for Sata II is 300MB/s a d Sata III 600MB/s.
>>55058650
>raid 6
Stop this meme
>>55059183
What's wrong with raid6?
>>55059138
All right what is the meaning of this?
>>55059212
The same shit that was wrong with RAID 5.
>>55059216
Sata I = 1.5gbit/s
Sata II = 3gbit/s
Sata III = 6gbit/s
>>55059235
What's wrong with raid 5? It has its uses albeit slow writes.
>>55059059
Not the 320 series they have a firmware bug that intel never fixed
>>55059243
Yes, but WHY is the throughput lower? 3Gbps should be 375MB/s. 6Gbps should be 750MB/s. What makes SATA not follow this rule?
>>55059262
The risk of a drive failing during array rebuild.
>>55059308
Almost everything has overhead. That's why you will rarely get the full bandwidth as some of that bandwidth is used for things other than pure data transfer and some of it is just lost due to other reasons.
My sata II SSD tops out at like 250mb/s for example. It's quite shitty though so it might not even fully saturate it either.
An extreme example od this is wifi sync speed vs actual throughput.
>>55059326
Hence why raid6 has two parity disks anon.
Also when you lose your raid array you shouldn't be worried about losing data, you should be worried about availability.
>>55059326
RAID isn't a backup. While your array is rebuilding you should have already put in place either the backup or another live version of the data.
You don't fucking rebuild an array when you need the data you faggot.
>>55057984
>SSD hard disk
>>55057903
SATA 1-3 has nothing to do with the actual speed of the hard drive you twat. it just puts a hard cap on the max speed.
>>55058021
fuck off you clueless faggot. you dont know what software i run.
>>55059892
You expect chinks to properly label shit in English?
>>55058335
Guess you are too young to remember firmware issues that bricked devices.
>>55059944
Okay, kid.
>>55057848
but that is most of 4chin users. These people spend their waking life here being insufferable about the mundane and benign of things. its actually sickening seeing constant hating. This place is far more cancerous than a lot of other places. But it can also be worth browsing for the lols and sometimes informative posts.
>>55059992
So did Intel kid. Every SSD manufacturer had one or two fucked up models.
>>55058462
Resuming from sleep mode is much faster on SSDs. Also programs that need to be reloaded from swap etc. will definitely cause lag on an hdd.
>>55060012
say that to my face, bitch
>>55059992
>too young
>last year
Fuck off KID.
>>55060037
Literally takes two seconds and 3gb ram is more than enough for Windows 7 and two browser tabs anon.
>hey mom if you give me £80 I can get rid of 3/4 of your storage for half a second faster wake speed
It's a waste of money.
>>55060037
there's sleep and hibernation, one is fast and the other slow. i dont remember which
>>55060032
>>55060084
I'll never forgive them for what they did to plasma TVs. I'll never give those garlic eaters my money.
>>55057822
>Waiting 2 minutes for you computer to boot up
>Waiting 2 minutes after logged in for you computer to be usable
>Waiting a minute or more for Visual Studio or any other large program to start
I mean sure, if all you do it browse 4chin all day, an HDD is fine. If you do actual work on your computer, especially with lots of files and/or programs at once, an SSD is fucking wonderful. It allows you to use faster workflows that would otherwise be infuriating on an HDD.
>>55057161
Thanks Dr. Stallman
>>55060280
Fuck work. If you have ever browsed your 400gb porn collection, and each thumbnail loads instantly, and you can load each file instantly, ssd's are well worth the entry fee.
>>55060441
Do you seriously store your porn on SSDs? I store mine on my 8tb RAID10.
>>55057070
time is money
>>55060478
I make backups. I'm too poor for 8tb.
>>55060501
A 4TB drive is almost the same price as a 500GB SSD..
>>55060830
Yeah, so 8 back ups
>>55057070
Because burning through 1000:1 to find one unit that's not as volatile as nitro glycerine so that it can be sold on the open market without a high likelihood of eating itself into oblivion (and thus required service) is expensive.
