Price for performance build. Can you do better /g/?
where's the rest of it
A lot better.
>>55032592
Yeah that board has shit VRMs get a sabertooth or gigabyte gaming edition 990x
Also get a used 970 or 480x when it drops what are you doing getting a 960?
the 960 is shit, the r9 380 outperforms it by a mile.
>>55032592
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTpNZEW31G0
>>55032653
>nearly 8 minute video starring panjeet just to say R9 380 > GTX 960
fucking pleb just directly link some goddamn benchmarks next time
Is that what shit costs in britbong land? Overpriced AF
>>55032835
you didn't have to watch the whole thing. you can skip around in videos.
>>55032592
R9 380 4GB
AMD 990X board
FX6300
Are you even trying?
>>55032592
I have a case suggestion for you.
>>55032653
This video doesn't takes in consideration AMD driver CPU overhead.
Pairing an budget AMD GPU with a budget and slow AMD CPU will give lower framerates than pairing a Nvidia budget CPU with the same slow AMD CPU.
>>55032946
Nvidia budget GPU*
I thought everyone knew this?
Nvidia + AMD = Yes
AMD + AMD = No
AMD + Intel = Yes
>>55032639
This, just get a 380 anon, 4gb
>>55032946
is 380 budget? seems in the midrange. budget is like gtx 950 type cards.
>>55032992
the 380 is the least powerful card I would bother to buy new. Anything 950 or less, and I would buy second hand.
>>55032946
If you're buying an FX CPU for a budget rig, I hope you're overclocking, otherwise there's no point.
>>55032992
380/960 are budget.
In most games pairing the 960 with a AMD CPU will give you better framerates than pairing the same AMD CPU with a 380, despite the 380 being stronger, the weak CPU can't push the same amount of instructions to the GPU(compared to the 960) fast enough so you have an underutilized GPU.
Intel + 380 is good though.
>>55033013
380X worth it over the 380?
>>55032905
no shit panjeet, I skipped right to the fucking end and wondered why I even needed to do that in the first place
>>55033013
>>55033036
then what's midrange? the 970/390? i don't know if we should be calling $300+dollar cards midrange
>>55033061
Yes, the 970/380 are midrange.
>>55033053
i skipped to the end too. because i assumed that /g/ users are non-memers like you.
>hmm should a take time to collect benchmark images from various games or should i just post a video that cycles through them all already hmmmm
>>55033043
Depends on the games you play, and what your budget is.
Technically, yes, it is worth it in price/performance, but it's only slightly better.
>>55033061
I'd say that a 390 is on the line between mid-high range.
380/960 is still mid-range, but if you're buying a "cheap" gaming PC, you shouldn't be looking at something with much less performance than those.
>>55033082
390*
>>55032592
AFTERMARKET CPU COOLERS ARE THE MEME OF THE CENTURY IF YOU'RE NOT OVERCLOCKING
>>55033149
Unless you bought a 6700K and want to run it at full turbo..
Even without an overcock, the 6700K at stock 4.0-4.2GHz hits 82'C on a 212X.
>>55033134
>>55032592
Yes I can
Wait for Polaris
>>55033084
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1596?vs=1591
>that was so fucking hard
utter pleb
pentium g4400
used older flagship gpu from ebay
>>55033134
>dual core
I wonder how that will perform in 2016
>>55033149
>Not keeping your cpu E X T R A comfy with a Noctua NH-D15.
Stay pleb hothead.
>>55032908
Better??
>>55033182
Why waste money on a slower clocked i5 though?
![anita-sarkeesian[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/0k0jJAH.jpg "anita-sarkeesian[1].jpg")
>>55033190
>me
>posted benchmarks showing 380 > 960 after 5 minutes of the thread being active
>you
>posted benchmarks showing 380 > 960 after 40 minutes of the thread being active, many minutes after the thread had moved to a new topic because everyone already agreed that the 380 was better
in terms of thread participation and relevancy, i won, u lost.
>>55033233
Swap that XFX for a Sapphire, and you're good.
>>55033220
>being a consumerist cuckold
>comfy
>>55033283
>Being too poor to afford the things you like
Not even once.
>>55032592
Get an i3 you dumb cunt.
>>55033266
dosent change the fact you're still a pleb
>>55033233
I've been pushing the i3 for the whole thread with statistics as to why you should get one. And you're still going for the AMD CPU?
Why exactly?
da fuq the hard drive
da fuq the ram
da fuq the power supply
>>55033270
what's better for like, normal stuff with only a little light gaming, amd or intel?
im talking like web browsing, word processing, email, youtube.
![03fa7b6b6822f4814[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/DGPpHBw.gif "03fa7b6b6822f4814[1].gif")
>>55033365
>>55033326
Because the AMD saves me like £30 ....
>>55033366
Apple osx
>>55033036
Is 380x worth buying? Want to upgrade from a 660 ti
>>55032592
Holy shit, wait for 480/470/1060/1050. It's like less than a month for the 480, which is 970-tier performance.
Also Zen is coming out later this year.
If you have to buy the rig now, get a 380/x and an 8350. Buy at least the CPU used
>>55033412
well, if you're going for price/performance, the i3 will be better in most tasks. I have an 8320 (@4.2GHz) because I like the multithread performance.
>>55033440
>lol didn't read thread
>>55033356
Ive already got all the other parts. Just looking to upgrade not build a new machine.
Should I bother upgrading my Ivy i5 K?
>>55033412
That's only when you don't change the motherboard.
It'll save you £4
>>55033501
no. decent cpus don't need frequent upgrades.
>>55033501
No. Performance gains to skylake are minimal at best if you're already overclocking the card.
Am i good?
>>55033536
Why aren't you buying skylake?
>>55032979
FX 8320 and HD 7870 going strong for almost 3 years now. Paid 100$ for the cpu brand new, and 200$ for the gpu.
Youd be out of your mind to rule out AMD+AMD
>>55033536
i have that cpu and it's really good. it's able to handle every game that i throw at it.
![iWKad22[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vQsSPS5.jpg "iWKad22[1].jpg")
>>55033573
>CPU
>HANDLING GAMES
MFW
>>55033555
I mean, I go AMD+AMD for ethical reasons, but yeah, it's pretty nice.
>>55033589
cpu matters. there's a reason he's getting the i5-4690 and not something weaker.
>>55033233
Dont listen to the guy who recommended a 6 core. I started out with an FX 6300 (paid 130$) and couldnt run bioshock infinite without OCing to 4.5 ghz. (Mind you this was 3 yrs ago)
I saw an FX 8320 for 99$ brand new at my microcenter and got that and sold the 6 core (2 months after i bought it). Its leaps and bounds better, at 4.2 ghz it runs everything i got to this day w ease (most recent games being arkham knight and mgsV). I have a strong feeling if i still had the 6 core it wouldnt cut it.
>>55033589
Maybe "every game" just means Minecraft
>>55033612
He's getting the locked version of the CPU and a low end MOBO to save a little bit of money. He's locking into a build he won't be able to upgrade, only replace.
Please explain to me how this is even a remotely intelligent thing to do, let alone condone.
>>55033612
I just want something that will last me for years. All options considered, but for now i got my eye on 4690
>>55033690
Precisely the reason I got my brother a 6700K for his workstation, even though it was a massive portion of the build cost.
>>55033679
because even the locked 4690 is already more than enough for 99% of games and will last him many years.
>>55033712
Its really way out of my budget. Thats why im getting low end mobo and a locked processor.
>>55033690
We're currently in the 6th generation of Intel processors. If you want something that's going to last a long time why are you buying 4th gen?
You're also buying the model which cannot be overclocked. At the very least, you could spend the extra on the 4690k and a z97 MOBO.
I need to upgrade my current rig, and here are my stats. What should I upgrade first?
Also will the 480 be compatible with my PC? Thinking of getting that first.
>CPU
AMD FX-6350
>RAM
8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 803MHz
>Motherboard
Gigabyte Technology Co. Ltd. 990FXA-UD3
>Graphics
2048MB ATI AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series
>>55033366
an amd APU
>>55033679
He will be able to upgrade, he'll be able to get a GPU. If we assume he's building this for video games, then that build is fine. By the time that CPU is outdated, he'll probably be in a different part of his life where he can afford to build a new rig altogether.
>>55033536
No, add SSD and make sure that RAM is a kit, i.e. 2x4GB sticks
>>55033690
>>55033749
>>55033718
>>55033738
Get the 480 when it comes out.
Wait for zen.
It's a really terrible time to be upgrading, because intel is fucking people in the ass with pricing, and new silicon processes are on the horizon in both GPU and Zen.
Intel i5 6500 - £164.28
Asus H110M-K Micro ATX - £46.99
Sapphire Radeon R9 390 Nitro - £214.98
Total of £427.25
>>55033756
We don't know what pricing is like in his country.
>>55033765
Thanks fammo
>>55033738
Get that RX-480 then upgrade to an FX-8350.
>>55033756
Stop posting these. The are plenty of gaming benchmarks out there already that show that i3's are getting manhandled in newer games.
>>55033785
He's from Croatia, he can order from whichever country in the EU it's cheapest in and pay 0 import tax.
>>55033804
Actually Serbia. Import taxes are like 20% of product.
>>55032632
He said price for performance. Reliability was never a factor.
Of course, if it was me I'd get a better board.
>I'm too poor to be cheap.
>>55033827
Apologies, I googled some of the words on your image, it came out Croatian.
>>55033792
>Manhandled
5 fps difference, considerably cheaper.
>>55033848
>that horrible banding
jesus fucking christ, people shouldn't make 8-bit undithered gradients and then JPG-compress them
>>55033792
>Manhandled
4 fps difference
>>55033864
God bless youtube.
>>55033875
>>55033848
Its okay. Anyways, im looking at this i5 6500 and it looks like it scores slightly worse than 4690 on benchmarks ive seen some far. Should i stick to 4690?
>>55033896
If you're going to stick to 4690, get the K, and get a Z97 motherboard. It will future proof you for longer.
Personally, I'd still go for the i3 6320 if you're on a tight budget because it's cheaper, and offers roughly the same performance.
>>55033875
>>55033848
>$160 dual core in 2016
Top nope.
For 100$ I'm going to have 16gb of ddr2, an x5450 and a 7950. Hard to beat that IMO. Just waiting for the 5450 and 16gb of ram to be shipped
>>55033948
>Being this dense.
It has hyperthreading, which essentially makes it a quad core. In the areas that matter (core speed) it's actually better than most of the i5 lineup. The only place where it lags behind is multithreaded applications, like encoding x264 video, or complicated excel spreadsheets with multiple formulas. Games, tend not to utilise more than 4 cores, which this processor essentially has.
If you're going to chat shit, back up your claims with facts.
>>55033992
X5450 isn't very good for games (3GHz w/ no turbo), but the rest is nice.
Would make a very good workstation machine.
>>55034002
>hyperthreading makes it a quad core
no. It just has high clock speeds.
>>55034020
>>55033992
Honestly, it wouldn't do too badly as a gaming machine. It's not like it's going to bottleneck the GPU, and unless he's playing very CPU intensive games like ARMA or TW, for $100 it's a fucking steal.
An R9 290 would be a good start
>>55034020
Its going into lga775 mobo so I can OC it.
It was the x5450 or the q6600 so..
>>55034038
>ESSENTIALLY
Missing the operative word.
>>55034058
I went to a local shop and the owner was in a hurry and said 55$ for the 7950. I knew it was worth 130 so I took it
>>55032835
>panjeet
KEK
>>55034058
ehh... 3GHz is a bottleneck in many modern games with a 7950.
>>55034074
If you can get it above 3.4GHz it will be great.
>>55034076
>Essentially: used to emphasize the basic, fundamental, or intrinsic nature of a person or thing.
No, I didn't. It is not, in essence, a quad core.
Hyperthreading assists in interleaving CPU time, effectively reducing wasted CPU time. It does not increase CPU power.
980ti is a placeholder for the 1080 whenever the hybrid version is out
>>55032920
>fuego
>>55034002
I know it has hyperthreading but that does not "essentially make it a quad core." See: any legitimate benchmark.
Besides, if you want to save him some money you should be recommending the i3 6100 anyway. That's actually cheap enough to begin to make some sense ONLY if we're talking about being able to upgrade later to a more powerful Skylake based CPU since it's only 200 MHz slower. Either way, he's going to have to blow more money on a 1151 mobo and fast DDR4 just to match a locked i5 Haswell in games while being stuck with a meme-tier dual core prone to stuttering anytime a background task needs to be taken care of.
The bottom line is the 6320 is overpriced.
Trying to make a cheap small 1080p rig for schoolwork and gaming. Games wouldn't be any more intense than CS:GO. I have a nice machine already for 1440p but don't want to lug it back to uni in the fall.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/w9JmGf
>>55034002
>It has hyperthreading, which essentially makes it a quad core.
![2015-drive-failures-barchart[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/NNqfRrB.jpg "2015-drive-failures-barchart[1].jpg")
>>55034818
i remember reading something about the v300s being like the worst SSDs ever made so you might wanna look into that because im not sure
if this is for schoolwork and light gaming then you don't need 16gb of ram
this 380x outperforms the 960 in most games while at the same price
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202183&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
benchmarks for cards: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1596?vs=1592
also seagate is making better HDDs than WD right now so i'd go with the seagate barricuda
>>55034450
£100 for 6100
£130 for 6320
The difference is so minimal, that it's worth it for the performance boost.
>>55035184
>3.7 GHz vs 3.9 GHz
>Worth that much money in a "budget build"
No.
>>55032592
lga 771 motherboard > 40
e5450 > 22
ddr2 > 40
hdd > 50
ssd > 30
gtx 660 > 70
or if you're a real big spender
gtx 970 or r9 280x > 250
>>55035376
16gb of ddr2 is 25 of non ecc, around 10-25$ if ecc
>>55035423
not if it's 1066 or even 800mhz for overclocking that e5450.
ALSO
most Intel motherboards do not accept 4gb sticks of ddr2 unless they are server motherboards which will not overclock.
