Is the i3 6100 the true king of budget processors right now? Seconded by an a8 or a10 APU?
http://www.trustedreviews.com/intel-core-i5-6400-review-performance-and-verdict-page-3
>>55032501
Yes. Thanks for making this insightful and top quality thread you dumb tripfaggot.
>>55032516
You're welcome.
i've been thinking of picking up an a10-7890k
>>55032501
i3 6300 is the king of budget processors. 3.8ghz and the ability to use DDR4 memeory.
>>55032501
The 845 wins out at about $50 less
and ya the i5 6400 is a pile of shit
>>55032544
>>55032544
Isn't it 3.9ghz?
>>55032548
>>55032561
The intel ark lists it at 3.7ghz
http://ark.intel.com/products/90729/Intel-Core-i3-6100-Processor-3M-Cache-3_70-GHz
>>55032548
The 845 also has no upgrade path.
>>55032548
> calling the i5 6400 shit
> unware that non-k skylake overclocking exists
lol
>>55032585
Nigga can you even read? We're talking about the 6300, the true king of budget processors.
>>55032634
>mfw you get MICROCODE'd through WU
>>55032634
That's not worth the trouble
>>55032628
doesn't matter if you never planned to upgrade
AM4 is going to make the AMD quad cores a lot more sellable though
>>55032645
when was the 6300 mentioned?
>>55032501
Isn't there a Sandy Bridge Xeon chip out there that is an insane deal right now at around 70 bucks?
>>55032717
>doesn't matter of you never planned to upgrade
Lol this pathetic excuse for your shit advice.
Stop recommending AM3+ kid because it's over.
Until AM4 is out, Intel is the way to go. Unless you have a very specific use case where the 8350 shines.
>>55032717
Literally the picture you replied to, dumbfuck.
>>55032628
budget builds usually get replaced, not upgraded.
>>55032645
>dual core
>2016
don't forget to get the good Z series motherboard that allows overclock
>>55032764
If you're a myopic retard, sure.
>>55032758
the 845 is FM2+, have you tried not shit posting? and the 8350 isn't a good buy, you'd want the 8300 or 8320e as they're a decent amount cheaper
>>55032501
>>55032542
If you buy an AMD APU and later on get a AMD GPU DX12 and Vulkan will use all stream processors on both APU and GPU. APU with 500 stream processors + GPU 2000 stream processors = 2500 stream processors
>>55032796
Intel locked that feature on non K chips, aside from the G3258 I guess
>>55032796
>Not realising that with with higher single core speed, you get better performance in most applications.
>Not realising that with hyperthreading the card is essentially a quad core
We're talking about budget processors here. If the guy had the money he'd buy a 6700k.
>>55032800
not really. sometimes it's smarter to get the most bang for you buck on a dead-end platform and then rebuilt later with a newer platform.
at the budget level, you pay a premium for upgradability. if you know that you won't be on a budget in 2 years, then there's no reason to pay that premium. just squeeze as much power into it now and then rebuild from scratch later.
>>55032736
yeah, e5 first revisions are fucking monsters. but the motherboards are insanely expensive, lga2011v1. they go for about $200 minimum on ebay, and it goes without saying there is no ddr4 support, etc. also it's a >140W chip. i own one with 2 e5 2670s and the total system draw is 800W with a single 7970ghz edition and a few hard drives and an ssd. overall the value is depreciated by the fact that finding compatible cases and mobos are really expensive (a lot are eatx).
>>55032874
I knew the motherboards were a bit pricey, I think it's offset nicely by the cheap price of the chip though. The problem is the power draw, goddamn 800w is insane.
>>55032763
Then that begs the question why pay $10-15 extra for .1ghz?
>>55032874
Could you not have just bought a used workstation and cannibalised the parts you needed? Used work stations tend to go for next to nothing much like think pads.
>>55032907
Because 10-15 won't break the bank but will worth it a few years down the line because of how Skylake processors scale with DDR4 ram.
>>55032832
There are some Skylake motherboards that allow overclock of NON-K CPU. Look up google to find out which motherboards supports those. You might need to update those motherboards, but yeah.
>>55032849
As per above, maybe a locked i5 + one of those motherboards that support overclock can help. Its sad that Intel is intentionally holding the CPU market growth down simply because AMD can't compete
>>55032916
Y THO?
>>55032916
Intel forced vendors to remove the overclocking on non K parts a while ago man
>>55032915
*Only in certain games, and only when you hit a CPU bottleneck with high end GPUs
in any case it really won't be worth it over the 6100
>>55032964
Honestly, I'd pay the extra for the 100mhz and 1mb of extra cache.
>>55032689
most likely not going to happen. even if they do someone will come up with a workaround. lol fag try harder
>>55032964
Intel forced mobo makers to update their bios versions. But you can still upgrade your own bios manually.
Verification from the forum is needed.
>>55032796
It's 4 threads anon. And it's better than the quad core 6400.
>>55033065
Doesn't flashing your bios still carry the risk of bricking your board on rare occasions? That's not a risk you'd want to take if you have a low budget
why can't AM4 hurry the fuck up already.
>>55033065
ya exactly. the bios revisions with the nonk OC feature r still around.
>>55033097
Flashing always carries the risk of "bricking." In your case, simply RMA the mobo since it would be new.
>>55032964
No they fucking didn't I have a Z series motherboard and a non-k cpu and overclocked it to 4ghz
>>55033225
Well then you aren't using updated BIOs
>>55033247
Upgrading/Downgrading is same process. Some mobo needs update to get non-K overclock working, others don't. Some newer mobo needs downclock, others don't.
Not always the case since stores might still have older stock that haven't been manufacturer bios upgraded.
>>55033293
in any case it's still a pain in the ass
>>55032910
kind of. for some of the older xeon systems it's readily feasible because the boards aren't exclusively high end or they can be modded (i'm referring to the lga775 mod), but for my e5 2670 in particular and probably every single newer processor, the boards are so expensive it's incredibly hard (but possible) to find one cheap. even right now, a used workstation with a lga2011 board (let alone a dual socket one) like the dell precision t7600 goes for at least 800 dollars.
>>55032902
yeah, i still own the system but i don't really use it that much aside from remote access, it's shoved in the back of the office as a novelty device as i don't like the guzzle that electricity from home.
>>55033316
no it's not, if your on a the newer bios it's so simple just enable turbo boost and vuala, that's all I had to do to go from 3.4ghz to 4.0ghz
>>55033316
All they really did is locked the multiplier at 40x you can still fuck around with the vcore voltage and cache multiplier and pretty much everything else
I currently own an A10-7850k and I find it's really good for its cost, pair it with a built in wifi motherboard, you're set!
My local microcenter has the a10-7890k with wraith cooler for $130. With a good a88x chipset motherboard and their combo bundle deal, you could spend less than $200 and get decent graphics, a decent cpu, etc etc for cheap. I helped a guy build an entire pc for $390. AMD APUs make for perfect CS:GO, DOTA2, and LoL machines hands down.
>>55033434
how does it handle for simple tasks, like web browsing?
also I bumped up the bclk from 800mhz to 1ghz which seemed to be the deciding factor
>>55033497
I don't notice any difference than my i5-4440 build
both off of wireless connections
>>55033521
noice. im building a budget pc for my dad. his current cpu is like 10 years old and he's never seen an ssd before.
>>55033557
Oh wow, hope it works out great for him, slowly introducing my dad to tech, got him a motorola X play phone
dads rite?
>>55033582
yup. i bought him an ipad last year and he fell in love with it. his ipad is probably faster than his computer so the ipad is like the coolest thing in the world to him.
>>55033434
Would you say something like an a8 7600/7650k would be enough for steam games like csgo and planetary annihilation?
>>55033602
Yeah 100% for CS:go but im not sure about planetary annihilation, probably lower settings?
APUs are pretty reliable in games too, smooth as the chip can handle!
>>55033598
I bought him a laptop a few years ago and he used it for checking emails and rarely facebook, but since I got him this phone he is taking pictures and is on facebook pretty much most of the time.
>>55033637
Sweet. Thanks m8.
Would you recommend the 7650k or 7800? They're both same price here.
Or 7600 will be enough? I don't mind lowering settings as long as it's 40fps 1080p.
cinebench r15 single core: 190
cinebench r15 multicore: 742
Pushing the BCLK past 163 causes a freezup after an hour or two of heavy gaming. I think that's due to the 2400mhz ram speed. very stable at 4.4ghz
>>55033707
7650k for sure, its on par with the 7850k for being an A8 chip than a A10
both 95w though
I do a fair bit of everything
with a R9 290x
>>55033740
Thanks anon.
Also, iirc don't all APUs support bclk overclocking?
>>55033816
>Regular Show
ma nigga
>>55033390
You do know that turbo boost works for a single core for about 10 seconds at a time right?
>>55033816
If you go with a "K" APU you can get decent clocks, Mines base at 3.85 and I got 4.2 out of it and it was stable
>>55033840
Yeah!
Rate this build my niggas:
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/QkGxr7
>>55034263
Wait for the RX 470 or buy an 845 and wait for the RX 480
also that PSU is pretty low end
and buy a hard drive for christ's sake
Or better yet, wait for AM4 and buy an AM4 APU system
>>55034263
Why not this?
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/F6ndCy
Better gpu, and faster ram, for the same price.
>>55034263
>80gb of storage
NO
if you're buying a hard drive, you should never go below a terabyte. 15 dollars for 80gb of hard drive is a horrid horrid ratio.
also the r7 370 is the same price but outperforms the 750ti in literally everything.
>>55034327
I don't want to set my house on fire anon.
>>55034352
Lol yea I was just kidding with that. But I just wanna know what you think of the build. I'm a pleb so going for the cheapest build possible.
>>55034360
>>55034360
>>55032689
intel only forced them to remove it in a bios update, you can still use old bios or buy a motherboard with an external clock generator that allows you to bclk overclock
>>55034360
I didn't realise I was trying to help an autistic child...
>>55034360
>faster ram starts housefires
Is this a new meme?
>>55034546
Yes.
>>55032501
no.
if you're on a budget, get some decommissioned server CPUs.
you can get an 8core CPU for $50 USD atm, and overclock it to 3-4ghz
if you're on a budget I have no idea why you would get a new CPU or GPU
>>55036451
What about the mobo? Those are expensive to replace.
>>55036518
theirs plenty floating around.
How does the Intel atom do as far as low end notebooks go? Looking at an Asus to run Linux on for shitposting and watching videos
>>55037390
They're pretty good as long as you don't stray from windows. Linux doesn't support atoms very well.
>>55032645
>180bux
That costs more than my CPU/Mobo/Memory
>>55036671
yea, for 300bux.
>>55037523
This. It's fucking ridiculous.
>>55032501
>trustedreviews
TOPKEK
Yeah it is.
Gonna upgrade to RX480 if the UK prices aren't retarded.
>>55032501
>Is the i3 6100 the true king of budget processors right now?
no. You still have to buy a video card. Thus it ends up more expensive than just getting a amd apu.
>>55041620
You don't NEED to buy a GPU with it. It plays lol, wow and all the other shit most casuals play perfectly fine on the built-in graphics.
