>RX480 will have slightly lower performance than a R9 390
>GTX1070 will cost 500€ in Europe
Guess I won't get a new graphics card then. How disappointing...
>>54992013
GOOD FIGHT THE MINDLESS CONSUMERISM
>tfw burger
>tfw get to order a 1070 strix as soon as possible and not pay through the nose for it
Anyways, maybe the 1060/ti will suit your needs better when that comes out.
I don't even think the 480 will cost 200€
>>54992087
It absolutely won't. Cheapest 380 is around 200€.
>>54992109
I guess I will stay poor with my 280x
>>54992057
Might as well just get a used GTX970 or 480 then.
I think everyone was expecting the 970 to step in the footsteps of the 970. But the 970 was 320€ at launch. The 1070 will never sell like the 970 did.
>>54992087
It will be at least 230€ if you're lucky.
Probably:
>4GB, 239€
>8GB, 279€
>>RX480 will have slightly lower performance than a R9 390
Source on that? I though the benchmarks put it between GTX 980 and Fury X.
>>54992013
>RX480 will have slightly lower performance than a R9 390
Stop spreading that bullshit around, Nvidia shill.
The RX 480 will have Fury (Non-X) level performance @ 100 W and crazy OC headroom.
>>54992126
Yeah, I'm not sure it's worth upgrading.
I just wish there was something a little bit better than the 280x for a decent price on the nvidia side.
>>54992127
>I though the benchmarks put it between GTX 980 and Fury X.
Source on that?
>>54992013
>lower performance than a R9 390
Source needed.
>>54992127
Somone put together all the AoS benchmarks and AMD infos we got. And the 480 performs slower than a 390 and even 290x in that game at the same settings AMD used for their presentation.
Odc there are also the "leaked" benchmarks from 3dmark which put them in 980 region, but these can't be really trusted.
My guess is that it will be pretty much GTX970 performance.
>>54992143
>nvidia
>decent prices
>>54992126
>Might as well just get a used GTX970 or 480 then.
480 is gonna be very similar in price range anyway. Just go for the new tech. And if you want to upgrade in the future you just get another one.
>inb4 crossfire meme
It's literally no longer a meme.
>>54992164
Yeah. An used GTX 970 is like 250€. I might as well get the RX 480 which won't be used and still probably get at least better performance.
>>54992013
Why do you need a graphics card you fucking manchild? To play your pic related epik gaymes?
Fuck off to >>>/v/
>>54992127
http://www.3dcenter.org/news/weitere-aots-benchmarks-der-radeon-rx480-ausgewertet
Here is the site in german, you can check all the sources yourself.
Their conclusion is:
>das von der Radeon RX480 besser keine Performance auf Augenhöhe mit Radeon R9 390X oder GeForce GTX 980 erwarten werden sollte
or in english
>You shouldn't expect performance in the regions of the 390X or GTX980
I don't get how AMD aim to compete with NVIDIA when the only option is double 480. Crossfire never worked properly and litterally unusable with 80% of the games
>>54992231
Op said not on same level as r9 390
That's a other story.
>>54992237
>I don't get how AMD aim to compete with NVIDIA
80% of the market plays at 1080p and buys cards for between $100-300.
1070 costs well above that range. It's actually nvidia that's gonna have to adjust their prices.
>>54992190
> What is CAD
You'll realise high performance PC's are for more than gaymin when you move out of home and start interacting with adults anon.
>>54992013
>lower performance than a R9 390
Source?
>>54992013
>RX480 will have slightly lower performance than a R9 390
Nvidia shills just making shit up as they do damage control I see
>>54992256
>>54992274
>>54992276
Well, the 290X is 15% faster than the 480 in AoS.
Also a GTX970 is just 13% slower than the 480 in a game that performas MUCH better on AMD cards.
That's why I say it will be slightly slower than a 390. Mark my words man
>>54992268
I know about other uses of a GPU. But 99% of /v/ idiots that spread their cancer in /g/ do not use CAD and probably never will
>>54992308
Fuck.
>>54992266
Well this is blatantly false due to the fact the 970 was the most dominant card last gen and had an msrp of over $300.
You people can deny it all you want but everyone knows the new x70 series by nvidia will dominate. Amd are crazy not have a 1070 competitor. For them to release the cheaper cards is all fine but they need a 1070 competitor at least because it's the price bracket which sells the most. The 970 and the 390 to a much lesser extent were by far the most popular and best selling gpus last gen and both were launched with prices exceeding $300.
In bongland the 1070 is set to be £500 which is nearly twice what the Americans pay.
>>54992308
I'm pretty sure adored tv already said the 480 will be 290 performance. And he's a massive amd shill who likes to exaggerate everything.
>>54992344
>Well this is blatantly false due to the fact the 970 was the most dominant card last gen and had an msrp of over $300.
Feel free to post proofs instead of rhetoric.
>>54992344
>I don't have facts to backup my claims
Import and avoid taxes like a real nigga.
>>54992347
> http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/new-product/pc-components/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-gtx-1070-release-date-price-specs-available-out-3639751/
Nvidia have already confirmed the founders edition 1070 to be £399, which puts the msrp at £320.
>>54992190
>implying graphics cards are for graphics anymore
I'm writing my dissertation on deep learning in computer vision. Running a neural network on a GPU is a godsend.
>>54992374
Kind of like how the 1080 totally hit that £450 MSRP amirite
>>54992395
99% of that is because of the retailers, not Nvidia.
>>54992371
How do you do this? Do I need to have a guy in America who can send it as a gift, or are there services that will do it for me?
>>54992231
>>54992308
That's an 8% overclocked 290x, there is no info on what clocks that 390x was using and the 480 is running on prerelease drivers.
Wait for actual benchmarks, numbnuts
>>54992356
http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/matthew-wilson/december-steam-hardware-survey-shows-gtx-970-as-most-popular-gpu/
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-970-steam-survey/
http://www.techspot.com/news/63497-steam-hardware-survey-gtx-970-most-popular-gpu.html
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/125239/20160118/steam-gamers-have-a-new-favorite-graphics-card-nvidia-geforce-gtx-970.htm
https://www.vrfocus.com/2016/01/geforce-gtx-970-now-most-popular-gpu-in-steam-survey/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_900_series
>GeForce GTX 970
>$329 USD
>>54992395
The msrp of the 1080 is £529
>>54992414
Also different game versions.
Those benchmarks are literally worthless.
Disregard nvidia shills about 480 being slower than 390. There is no exact same configurations in AOTS with 480 or other cards to compare (game version, cpu, settings). DX11 bench shows performance levels of 980. Same with 3DMark scores.
>>54992426
That just goes to show you how even though the 970 is popular, 80% of people still buy a gpu at $300 the most.
>>54992466
This thread destroyed my illusion of a nice poorfag gaymur build, tell me more.
I was going to keep the 970 as a backup in case my 1080 went for a shit in any way.
Fuck that im selling it then, people will be wanting one if this is true >>54992126
>>54992013
>dx12 aots @ 4k
>fury x cf only does 54
>480 cf with no official drivers does 62
>480 weaker than 390
Pretty sure you're wrong op.
>>54992485
It clearly shows it doesn't. The 970 won't be the most gpu if the majority of the people spend lower than $300. If anything they look for the $300-$400 cards because they're the ones which offer the best price/performance. The 390 was $329 msrp at release too.
>>54992547
It clearly shows they don't *
>>54992414
>>54992444
You have to keep in mind that AMD would only release results where their new card performs very well. If you are now saying that the drivers aren't optimized yet and what not you are just lying to yourself. Just face it, the RX480 will absolutely not fulfill the expectations, just like the 1070 is not fulfilling them.
>>54992539
>cf
For the last fucking time, the test was NOT crossfire. It was dx12's native multi GPU support. If you crossfire the 480, you won't get as much performance as dx12's native multi GPU support.
>>54992547
You fail statistics
also
>970
>price/performance
This meme was never true and will never be true no matter how often Nvidia spambots repeated it.
GPU price/performance peaks in the $150-$250 range.
>>54992547
It actually does. 970 being popular doesn't negate that most people buy a max $300 cpu.
>>54992013
>RX480 will have slightly lower performance than a R9 390
People should srsly stop posting anything about 480 performance. We know nothing about it yet
>>54992592
The only results they released officially was 480 crossfire performing like 390x crossfire in AoS.
The single card benchmark that is showing in the AoS database shows it performing like a 390, but that wasn't meant to be released yet.
>>54992547
>>54992622
960 being shit and not being released until 2015 made many of the potential 960 buyers buy a 970 instead.
>>54992616
Yes you're probably right, if you're looking for shit tier performance. When talking about price/performance it is assumed you're talking about it within a performance bracket that isn't totally shit tier.
>>54992622
>cpu
This is a gpu thread
>>54992622
It actually doesn't or the 970 and 390 won't be the best sellers on the market.
>>54992087
Import fees will kill it.
The RX 480 pricing are:
4GB $199.99 USD
8GB $249.99 USD
so essentially $200 USD and $250 USD in the states, pre-tax.
In the EU I can only imagine what VAT and import tariffs will do.
If it weren't for any of those i'd say it would cost €150 and €205 respectively
but we both know VAT and tariffs will fuck you guys harder than Mahmoud does Elsa.
>>54992793
Prices will be 220-250€ and 250-290€
>>54992666
>Nvidia marketeer trying to upsell goys on overpriced GPUs they don't actually need
Kill yourself.
In the last 4-5 years Nvidia upped the price of high end from $500 to $700 or more. Now they are upping the price of midrange from $250 to $380.
It's prime jewery and we are actually getting smaller performance improvements compared to previous generation than in the old days.
>>54992805
That shit is so depressing, the Euro is stronger than the $ but somehow all of our shit is overpriced as fuck in the EU because 'murrika.
Of course its just like how VW, BMW, and MB are overpriced as fuck in the states because *muh import taxes and elimination of competition with inferior domestic market products that can't compete*
>>54992806
this.
I really hope AMD unfucks their shit this year and actually BTFOs nVidia at $150-200 cheaper just for the sake of competition and market unfuckery.
I know it won't happen just like it hasn't happened the last 8 years, but still... if only
>>54992616
>tfw used 290
i feel it
>>54992426
>5-6% of a cross section of gamers buying the 970 somehow means most people spend over $300 on a GPU
Nvidiots and math. Not even once.
>>54992930
A lot of GPUs that were $300+ when they were new are also on the list. And you have to account that a lot of integrated graphics are counted even though most people don't game with them.
>>54992930
>t.buttblasted amdrone over the fact the 970 is the most popular and successful card in recent years
>>54992993
>>54992013
Euroland is great, isn't it? High taxes, no freedom trade from real nations that actually contribute to society, sand monkeys running around, blowing shit up, and taking your money.
Do yourself a favor, and move to USA, China, Japan, or Russia, then you can meet your gaymer needs.
>>54992848
>Of course its just like how VW, BMW, and MB are overpriced as fuck in the states because *muh import taxes and elimination of competition with inferior domestic market products that can't compete*
They are overpriced in Europe too. American cars are rare here because gasoline is overpriced too.
1070 will be 800 aud
800 aud
>>54992976
Pretty much this. It's weird that nobody cared about $300-$400 cards being the prices they were but suddenly when amd announces a $250 everyone starts claiming that anything above $300 is worthless and nobody like anything above that price.
>>54993013
>Do yourself a favor, and move to USA
Hahaha oh wew
>Get sick, be totally fucked because can't pay for treatment
>Nigger and latino gangsters with guns
>Trigger happy cops with guns
>Can get life sentence for smoking weed in one state while it's legal in another
>Shit internet with bandwith limit
>>54993044
whats that
autism dollars?
>>54993150
dollarydoos.
>>54993035
and they still manage to be on average $10k-20k cheaper than they are in the USA. (Source: everyone I've ever met who was stationed in Germany, Italy, or the UK)
>>54993121
>>Do yourself a favor, and move to USA
>Hahaha oh wew
Did you miss the other options?
>>Get sick, be totally fucked because can't pay for treatment
Get a job, if you're a poor fag, you get free medical.
>>Nigger and latino gangsters with guns
If you're in a shit state. They mostly kill each other anyways, and they don't blow up mass crowds like sand monkeys, or snipe down a school like beta whites.
>>Trigger happy cops with guns
Only when their life is in danger.
>>Can get life sentence for smoking weed in one state while it's legal in another
No, most states treat it like a traffic ticket, unless you have a shit ton, along with a gun and huge sums of cash.
>>Shit internet with bandwith limit
True.
>>54993192
oy you cheeky cunt, what do you think youre smart or something, you make two guys fucking in the middle of mardi gras look like a steel cage monster truck rally
t. Jack Jones
>>54993013
Lel the murifatard thinks he's more freedoms than Europe.
>>54992406
You buy from store that's willing to undervalue and then hope it's not caught by customs.
>>54993327
How does it feel to be this culturally dominated by America? Your youth honestly believe America single handedly won WW2.
>>54993327
I can teach my dog to be a Nazi, and not be sent to jail.
I don't have to accept Muhammad raping my wife, and my wife's son.
>>54993349
What happens if it gets caught?
Hows the performance lower than the 390?
The new new 3dmark db entry shows it is on par with a 980@1170mhz.
>>54993388
They ask you to provide receipt of the purchase and then you pay the VAT and possible customs fees normally.
>>54992426
Something being the most popular model isn't the same as being what most people bought.
>>54993426
Which will end up with you overpaying much more than if you bought it locally. And let me assure you that customs aren't stupid.
>>54993372
>>54993375
You can do whatever you want you could plaster your toilet tiles with swastikas if you want to.
LBGT degenerates are hitting you murifatards as much as Europe.
>>54992013
still stuck with a 770 and 1080p....maybe next gen
>>54992140
Lmao. Stop shitposting and go back to your AMD hugbox.
I've seen no objective benchmark proving the 480 is anything but bullshit.
GPU - GTX 970 $537.11NZD
GPU – R9 380X $354.58NZD
GPU - GTX 960 $339.89NZD
GPU - GTX 950 $258.54NZD
>tfw on a budget
Which should I get?
>>54993546
If you just play DOTA and CSGO, the 950. If you don't care about playing other games at Xbox 360 quality buy 60fps, get the 950. Otherwise IDK what is best.
>>54993546
380x
>>54993546
>Which should I get?
cancer
>>54993546
missalice
1. 500€ is the fucking FE
Nobody with brain will buy a FE.
2.The RX480 will be in R9 390 region performancewise is only logical.
Only brainretards (many are here obviously) will think AMD will give you a Fury performance for half the price.
Please, kill yourself, thanks
>>54993564
I won't be playing Witcher 3 or anything like that... not sure what I will be desu
>>54993583
This is what I'm thinking desu, would have liked a 970 but fuck me it is overpriced here
>>54993613
She's qt af. Pity our girls are absolute shit tier, especially compared to Australia
>>54993592
pls no bully
>>54993672
380x would be good enough for 1080p on high end graphics, if you aren't looking for 10000 fps, and some titles for 1440p. It's performance will probably still get increased from drivers, and get closer to 970 in performance over time... Maybe you can get lucky and find a used 290, or something in your tight market.
>>54992013
The 480 should end up at 390X performance levels what are you talking about?
>>54992351
Damn well I guess I'll be keeping my early 2014 Era R9 290's around for awhile longer then.
Honestly though a card 2 generations newer should be able to beat the card one higher than it on the product stack from 3 years prior
How good would a 480 be on 1440p?
>>54993196
>>54992848
>European cars
>Cheaper
In what universe?
>BMW M3
>62,000 Euros
https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=220072403&usageType=PRE_REGISTRATION&isSearchRequest=true&usage=NEW&damageUnrepaired=NO_DAMAGE_UNREPAIRED&scopeId=C&ambitCountry=DE&makeModelVariant1.makeId=3500&makeModelVariant1.modelId=45&pageNumber=1
Meanwhile, in the USA
>$60,000-$62,000 (54,796 euro)
http://www.kbb.com/bmw/m3/2016/base-style/?vehicleid=415356&intent=buy-new
>>54993774
How good is a 390X in 1440p?
>>54993757
Well, just like the 7950/70, the 290/x where god send, like the 2500k.
>>54993806
Oooo, I can answer this, my r9 390 does great in 1440p!
i currently have this monster 3 slot hd 6950 but it's load as hell and idles at almost 50 detgrees. Should I get the RX 480 when I can? just want something quieter and cooler and more powerful.
>>54993890
Yes? That's not a very hard choice, the RX 480 should pretty much dominate this generation given it's performance per dollar.
Not counting nvidia's marketing and fanboys buying 1070s for their 1080p displays though
hai /g/
>>54993954
For your wife's son?
>$100 less burger bucks
>Only slightly worse performance
Sounds like a deal to me
>>54994073
The other cards have had a ton of driver improvements, and we don't know how well the 480 will OC given it's smaller process
>>54992495
the rx 480 will be a good deal for poorfags
it will be able to run any game on max details in FHD for a while and you can always upgrade it with a second one because of its low energy consumption.
I ordered a gtx 1080 because I want the A-Cup of my VR waifus to be rendered with max AA to make it even more flat but the card is overkill for general gaming.
>>54992013
Im a now #vidja4nvidia
>>54994245
Even if you have money the 480 is a great buy because you can buy a high end display with it vs the 1080 and the extra cost of G-sync
>>54993918
I doubt i'll do much gaming, but if I do, I ahve 2 1440p screens (will only use one) will i be ok? No idea about gaming performance of these cards, I just need a bit of power to use in applications
>>54992666
The 290 is literally as powerful as a 970
The 390 is a 290 by the way
>>54994335
It should be as fast a 390X, which is already fairly capable at 1440p
>>54994339
The 390 is a newer 290 built with a better process letting it hit higher base clock speeds, and making it about 10% faster
>>54994245
Thanks anoni-chan
>>54992848
You are a fucking idiot who has no business commenting on anything other than what videogame you played this weekend.
The dollar is strong right now. Something like .88-1.
The c series(or whatever) is different from us to eu. Different engines, trim levels, and options. It's sold as a premium brand, and the fit and finish reflect that. The entry BMW or MB in the EU is more like a Ford Taurus over here. That's one reason for the price disparity.
this generation should be skipped, nvidia cards are grossly overpriced in europe and amd cards have lower performance than previous generation. just gonna keep my 670gtx and wait for generation of cards where i can buy x60 type card with hbm2 memory.
>>54994654
so, vega?
>>54994679
will see
>>54992848
it's overpriced because we have to pay 20% of the price in taxes for our overlord the state (at least in france)
stop being a retard aniki
AMD delivers disappointment right on schedule. Actually a bit late but that's just another layer of disappointment.
>>54994654
>amd cards have lower performance than previous generation.
Since when was the 380 faster than a 390?
>>54994759
1070 is faster than 980ti
>>54994774
At stock maybe, but a 980ti at 1400-1500mhz can nearly keep up with the 1080
>>54993918
>stop doing whatever you want with your money
>>54994774
not my question :^)
>>54994774
THE GIMPING BEGINS
>>54994792
It just doesn't make any sense to buy a high end GPU for a 1080p 60hz display rather than buying a mid range GPU with a new display for the same price
Don't know how many times I tried to tell people buying a 980ti for a 1080p display was retarded
>>54992426
>Steam
Less than 3% of all gamers use Steam at the first place.
>>54992268
>buying gaymen-optimized GPUs for CAD
Nice try.
>>>/v/
>>54994819
>125 million active accounts
>lord knows how.nany inactive
Gee I didn't know 4.2 billion people played video games.
>>54995333
The 125 million already counts accounts that aren't used anymore. In reality there are only 12.74 million Steam users.
http://www.statista.com/statistics/308330/number-stream-users/
Meanwhile there are 711 million PC gamers total.
http://www.pcgamer.com/there-are-711-million-pc-gamers-in-the-world-today-says-intel/
12.74 million is about 1.8% of 711 million.
>>54995412
>Peak concurrent
Are you retarded?
>>54993527
you're both cancerous idiots for speculating
>>54993628
>2.The RX480 will be in R9 390 region performancewise is only logical.
25% faster core clocks
36 vs 40 compute units
new architecture, smaller process
its literally impossible, also makes no economic sense for them. $230+ for a 8gb 480, r9 390 currently on newegg for $260 with a free game
piss off troll.
>>54995412
>711 million
>698.26 million Facebook gamers
>>54992187
This. I really wanted a 1070 and was even willing to pay €400 but paying €500 is like getting fucked in the ass. I got no money problems but I am not willing to pay a €150 premium from the previous generation.
It seems to me more cost effective to upgrade my 560ti with a RX480 and look for another upgrade 2-3 years down the line.
>>54995516
Clocks confirmed to be 1266mhz; 5.8 teraflops
390 gets 5.1
390X gets 5.9
Fury gets 7.2
Fury X gets 8.6
12% regression per core per clock to match 390
1% improvement pcpc to match 390X
23% improvement pcpc to match Fury
47% improvement pcpc to match Fury X
I think it's reasonable to expect Fury performance
>>54992379
>using consumer card for literally anything other than gaming
>>54992013
The price of that shit here will cost $1600, that is like...well fuck it.
AMD to go.
>>54995866
Why would you pay more for less when you don't need double precision?
>>54992013
>500 euro
>buying a reference card for a premium
Top kekkity kek
>>54995780
Do you honestly think that if it had fury performance, the best results they would come up with of that card in CF on with 83% scaling in Asots is barely beating a 1080?
>>54993546
the RX480
>>54996078
decent non-reference cards cost the same as the reference model, retard. Just look at the 1080 models. You are only getting shit cards for less than what the FE costs.
>>54996316
Even if they do cost the same (which they don't) that's still a much better deal than a reference card
I can either get a GTX 970 as an upgrade form my 760 SC 2GB, or get something else entirely. My gift card runs out tomorrow.
What do I get?
just got a 290X for $150 used. did I do good?
>>54996818
yeah the gtx970 is the best think you can do unless you go 1080.
But will the RX 480 be priced retardedly in Europe? If not AMD will automatically get my sale just for the sake of not supporting this bullshit.
>>54996962
no
gtx 970 is shit on by a 390
I need a good blower-style card. Is it worth getting the FE over the generic reference designs from third parties? Will it have any meaningful difference in accoustics or performance?
>>54997108
>blower-style card
for what purpose
>>54996316
You can get a decent non-reference 1080 if you're not a brand whore who needs Asus' or MSI's dick up their ass to breathe properly. KFA2's EXOC model is £85/€109 cheaper than a FE in the UK. Their 970 EXOC reviewed very well.
>>54997133
It's going in my ncase.
>>54995175
Shitpost all you like but there are idiots who actually believe that Quadros are somehow better by virtue of being stupid expensive for identical performance in most applications.
>>54996108
Wanna know a secret?
It doesn't scale as well in AotS
ie, Polaris gets more of a percentage performance gain in other games as compared to AotS
490213 is why :^)
>>54997292
quatros in specific pre built/detrended computers are guaranteed to never crash, and if it does, you are given dev time for a new driver to fix the crash, usually same day turnaround.
will probably buy a rx480 to put into a shuttle SZ170R8.
>>54995624
the ps2 alone sold 155 million units, lets say that 100 million individual units were sold and not upgraded or bought to replace broke systems, that's at least 100 million gamers.
you don't just grow out of gaming, and you don't just go from hardcore to casual.
a good number of people are moving to pc from consoles, especially this gen that has the weakest first party lineups ever (outside of nintendo) with almost everything worth a damn also coming to pc.
>>54992013
>RX480 will have slightly lower performance than a R9 390
>slightly lower performance
lol
Not for my wallet and favorite games.
>>54997099
A stock 970 maybe. A moderately overclocked 970 trashes a 390 and this can't be denied. Overclocked 970 = 980.
I'll drop this off here
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11263084
>>54992013
>>RX480 will have slightly lower performance than a R9 390
Oy vey how much are they paying you?
>>54992013
don´t know were this meme came from but the 480 is if we look at the "leaked" benchs we have so far slightly below the 390x which is above 980...
Also there are now offical drivers for the 480 so you should keep that in mind.
but well nvidiots will always try to bad mouth amd so they can feel better about their housefires
>>54997854
no it doesn't lol
when will this meme end. the 900 series is aging like milk. look at any new game benchmarks at all.
>>54997903
no offical drivers, is what i wanted to say
>>54997854
>>54997903
Do you think it could be better than the 390x with better drivers?
>>54997854
>3.5
>>54997347
What is 490213?
>>54997976
Just a reference number for a bit of documentation that popped up recently. :^)
>>54992848
Tfw you live in the greatest country in the world
>>54998128
This? http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2016/0085551.html
>>54998351
Good man
Give a good read of it and see if you understand it. Pay attention to the filing date as well.
>>54992190
>unironically calling someone else a manchild on fucking 4chan
Wow, you're a loser
>>54992013
>AMD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04ITA1_XoqM
>>54997925
>he's stupid enough to buy a 390 for 4k
I'd expect a retarded amdrone to do that anyway
>>54997905
Yes if does. Even in digital foundries latest vid they show a 970 overclocked to 980 performance. The 390 can't get anywhere near 980 performance with an overclock.
>>54998351
give us a tl;dr.
that shit is like runemoons to me.
>>54999156
3.5GB
>>54993514
>Implying the walls, floors, and ceilings in my house don't all have 1 swastika/40 "cm"^2.
>>54999334
>he's stupid enough to use an outdated pic thinking he won't be called on it
Compare
>>54992190
Why am I laughing so hard at this, it's not even that funny.
>>54992054
Swiss citizen, got a 1080 ftw for 650€
feels pretty good
8% swiss tax tho but it comes off around 100€ cheaper still
Speaking of terrible region pricing, are there any sites in UK that sell at UK prices. Only overclockers seems to have decent EU prices for EU brands.
Found a kfa2 1080 for £520 and a bunch of weird german brands which have the performance but low cost, and MSI has a 1080 for £550, both reference models though..
>>54992616
How is performance per dollar even measured? Like, what's a 1:1 performance:dollar ratio?
>>54993954
awesome
Are the Founder's Edition cards bad?
>>54999356
>2016
>needing spoonfeeding
Does anybody know what time I can get it tmr?!?!
i've been searching on google for over 60 seconds and can't find the fucking time tomorrow
>>54993954
nice one man the founder's edition!!
good purchase
>>54993954
Does any game with GameWorks actively gimp performance on AMD cards? I keep hearing conflicting reports, and while I probably could just turn off any GameWorks features, I'd like to get the answer pinned down now.
>>55000115
No
They're good for small cases and SLI mostly.
But the fact they cost more puts a lot of people off, but the custom ones seem to be the same price anyway, not $100 less...So...
>>55000248
The DX11 tessellation spec calls for a maximum of 64x. They expected 64x to never really be used in games when drafting the spec.
Large numbers of gameworks games now use 64x tessellation, in idiotic things such as Fallout 4's godrays, or Witcher 3's fur effects, both of which are nearly indistinguishable when going from 16x to 64x.
It got to the point where AMD put in a maximum allowed tessellation slider in their driver control panel.
>>55000255
So conflicted. Now I dunno whether to wait or just get the Founder's Edition now.
>>55000248
>>55000420
oh, and not to mention Crysis 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYL07c74Jr4&t=1m44s
check how the alien has less fucking polygons than a plank of wood.
>>55000255
>Custom ones
>Same price
I sure do love this meme.
>>55000467
Or the always rendered and tesselated water....
>>55000248
You can't turn off gameworks anything, that would be like turning off DirectX off.
All the AMD performance panics come out of things that affect BOTH brands (Witcher 3's hairworks brutal performance costs) or sheer AMD retardedness (drivers not being ready for Project Cars/Fallout 4 and later corrected.)
Tessellation shit just comes from AMD tendency to go as high as it can possibly go, hence why they let you turn it down.
AMD buyers just spout that shit because they need an excuse as to why their supposedly superior hardware runs shit worse (in reality being because AMD has a tendency to offload work onto the CPU.)
>GTX1070 will cost 500€ in Europe
If this is true then I guess I'm happy I didn't sell off my 970 a few weeks before the unveiling like I planned to. I bought the damn thing second hand last September for 300€ and could have sold it for about that in early May.
>>55000224
that doesn't help
>>55000541
>>55000467
>>55000420
So it's literally just 'treat it like a normal game and turn off shit that doesn't majorly impact graphical detail, like HairFX or bullshit like that'?
>>55000674
AMD had to add in a direct driver override to disable excessive tessellation like that.
What's funny is that as older Nvidia cards aren't as capable in Tessellation in the newer ones, but Nvidia doesn't have the overrides, they end up hurting the performance of their older cards far more than it'd hurt any AMD owners.
>>55000708
Huh, cool.
Cause I'm looking at an RX 480 (won't make a decision until proper benchmarks because I'm not a retard), but I heard a lot of hearsay about nVidia specifically fucking over AMD cards through proprietary software and shit. I'm glad AMD worked in a way to disable bullshit shenanigans like that, I guess. I'm not the kind of person that needs to play on 4K@144Hz on Ultra to enjoy a game, so hopefully like Very High/Ultra on 1080p@60 should be easy enough to handle.
>>55000751
yeah, they still have some bullshit though
Fallout 4, if you disable the godrays from the settings menu, it also disables SSAO, despite them being entirely unrelated.
>>54994052
>>55000780
I'll probably look into it more if I get an AMD card. I should find a list of all GameWorks games - I don't think I actually own that many that use it anyway.
>>55000541
>AMD has a tendency to offload work onto the CPU.
this is the exact opposite of what happens.
Nvidia dropped their hardware scheduler (in favor of shaders being statically scheduled in the host driver) after Fermi to save power, whereas GCN is more designed for GPGPU stuff.
>>55000889
Watch Dogs
AssCreed Unity
Witcher 3
War Thunder
Fallout 4
GTA 5
The Crew
The Division
Lords of the Fallen
Roller Coaster Tycoon World
Triad Wars
Rise of the Tomb Raider
Bamham Arkham Knight
Borderlands Pre
Life is Strange
Killing Floor 2
Farcry 4
Strife
Hatred
Project Cars
Warface
>>54992109
>>54992115
>>54992127
>>54992143
>>54992164
>>54992237
>>54992266
>>54992274
the diffrence between nvidia and amd graphics are that nvidia has better effects proccessing and better render quality,period.
amd can offer decent frae rate but has shitty driver updates that punish people with older cards.and fucking sucks at tessilation,and runs hot as the sun.BUT amd can handle high resolutions well.
so go invidia if you like better looking game.
go amd if you really want nothing better because everything can hadle 1080 p.
amd has decent cpu, but garbage hyped gpus/
>>55001062
Aiight then.
> Watch_Dogs
Played once. Finished. Haven't touched since.
> ACU, W3, WT, FA4, GTA5, The Crew, The Division, LotF, RCTW, TW, RotTR, Batman: AK, Borderlands Pre-S, LiS, KF2, Strife, Hatred, P:C, Warface
Never played or owned
> Far Cry 4
Only one I might actually play.
Not too bad.
>>55001100 >>54992109
>>54992115
>>54992127
>>54992143
>>54992164
>>54992237
>>54992266
>>54992274
o forgot my image,
>>55001100
This isn't fucking true at all retard.
>>55001062
Fucking Borderlands man. Or any UE3 game.
CPU capped out of the ass, my OCed 5820K can't even get stable 100 FPS with shadows off and .ini optimised, yet my 290X barely breaks a sweat with SSAA on, because the game can't even into fucking MSAA....
>>54999636
>calls someone stupid for using outdated pics
>posts an outdated pic himself
Gameworks: A collection of things that a single programmer could implement in a week based on published papers that nvidia pretend are more complicated than they actually are
The hard part of things like VXGI is the research and development, not the implementation. I've implemented sparse voxel octree global illumination myself using hardware sparse textures. It's really not something big enough to require a (hardware specific) library.
>>55001349
>because the game can't even into fucking MSAA
It uses a deferred renderer, they couldn't (at the time) use MSAA.
>>55001415
spec the difference in the games used. They loaded that one full of Gameworks titles; Arkham Knight, Fallout 4, Witcher 3, GTA5, Tomb Raider
>>54993954
My nigga!!! Hope you got the case to match it though.
>>55001100
I think you're actually this retarded, so you've succeeded.
