Look at this fucking graph.
Look at how awful an investment Kepler was.
Highlights:
>GTX 760 is now slower than R7 370, which is a rebrand of HD 7850. 7850 cost $150 when the GTX 760 was released for $300
>GTX 770, an overclocked 680, is now barely any faster than R9 270X, which is a rebranded HD 7870. From this we can extrapolate that 680 == 7870
>GTX 780 is now equal to R9 280X, which is a rebranded 7970 clocked at 1000MHz. From this we can say that the 780 is now slower than the 7970 GHz Edition (which ran at 1050MHz).
>GTX 780 Ti, the card that countered and edged ahead of the R9 290X for $700, is now slower than the R9 290 which debuted at $450 just a week prior.
The Maxwell side of things is less interesting; the Fury X has caught up with the 980 Ti and the 390X is edging ahead of the 980, but the Maxwell cards have much greater overclocking potential so it doesn't really matter.
Anyway, this proves that NVIDIA is simply a horrible investment. Imagine how it feels being a 680 owner whose card was 15% faster than the 7970 when he bought it and now can't even beat a fucking 7870.
>>54984951
Nobody cares, AYYMDPOORFAG. Not all of us are NEET losers who can't afford to upgrade our GPU once a year. Enjoy your 5% gain over 5 years whilst Nvidia race off over the horizon.
i'm never buying nvidia again
Fuck off AMDrone shill cucks.
The new 1080 is the most powerful card ever made, and not buying it would be some typical AMcuck mistake.
Just because you're a bunch of neckbeard autistic shills who don't understand economics doesn't mean shit to me, you're just proud of your inferior and low owner systems.
Plus the fury x is the worst fucking overheated cuck card ever, which will never be able to compete with Nvidia superiority
>inb4 muh power draw
>Inb4 muh price
>inb4 muh hot card
It doesn't fucking matter
>>54984985
>annual GPU upgrades
troll post
>>54984985
>if you buy NVIDIA you have to upgrade your GPU every year
top fucking kek
>>54984999
>The new 1080 is the most powerful card ever made, and not buying it would be some typical AMcuck mistake.
Yeah, it's the fastest card right now, sure. Have fun in two or three years when it'll be no faster than a Fury X.
>>54985001
>AYYMDPOORFAGS are so poor that the very notion of upgrading once a year melts their brain
>>54984992
nanisorenvidia
>>54985018
>Have fun in two or three years when it'll be no faster than a Fury X
But I won't still own a 1080 in two or three years. I'll own an 1180 or a 1280 or whatever it ends up being called, and I'll be enjoying performance far beyond what any AYYMD card can offer. So explain why I should care.
>>54985020
Your graphics card of choice is so shit you have to replace it yearly and this is how you rationalize it?
>>54985043
>Your graphics card of choice is so shit
My graphics card is significantly faster than anything AYYMD have ever made. So what does that make AYYMD's cards?
![STzq6Xzsv3PJdRizjnMghg-650-80[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/OqcF2Hw.png "STzq6Xzsv3PJdRizjnMghg-650-80[1].png")
>>54985018
It already loses to a Fury X in DX12 LMAO Nvidiots
>>54985039
>and I'll be enjoying performance far beyond what any AYYMD card can offer.
Are you sure that is the case? Tahiti handily destroyed GK104 and Hawaii was very competitive with GK110. But if you like to waste money and then accuse the financially responsible of being "poor", go ahead. Everyone with a brain will laugh.
>>54985071
>total warhammer
>1080p
>Gayming
Fuck off poorfag
>>54985067
>comparing new generation card to previous generation cards
NVIDIA doesn't train its shills to operate off of rational arguments, do they? Perhaps because there are few to none in their favor.
GCN is a great architecture with immense potential for throughput. The 4x16 SIMD lanes have such a high utilization rate , AMD's only short comings have been the front end, and cache which they've progressively improved upon. In both software and in hardware with new generations of the GCN architecture they've made consistent performance uplifts.
The exciting thing to see with Polaris and the upcoming Vega GPUs is that AMD might end up matching the 980ti with 100w~ 36CU Polaris 10, and handedly outperform the GTX 1080 with Vega.
Apple liked Polaris 11's perf/watt enough to buy several million of them for a new line of laptops. Obviously AMD's 14nm FinFET GPUs are up to snuff.
>>54984951
>>54985018
>A 3 year newer GPU is faster than a 3 year older one
Well, yeah...
>therefore AMD wins
What?
Are AMDrones brains powered by AMD market-shares?
>>54985089
Anonymous-sama you need to stop taking this low quality bait.
>>54985071
>cherrypicking CPU-bound gaymes
>92.4 is a lower number than 92.1
AYYMDPOORFAGS are really this desperate.
>>54985077
>Are you sure that is the case?
Yes. I'm sure I'll lose a lot of sleep over what somebody dumb enough to have bought an AYYMD housefire thinks of me too. :^)
>>54985089
>J-j-j-just you w-wait!!!
The eternal mantra of the AYYMDPOORFAG. There's always an Intel/Nvidia killer just around the corner, but you have to wait! Just wait! You'll see!
>it's released
>it's shit
>W-well the next one will be g-good, you'll see...!
You guys are like battered housewives.
>>54985100
What the fuck are you talking about? We're comparing cards from the same time period, three years later. NVIDIA has consistently shown itself to be a horrible investment. Now that Pascal is out and Maxwell presumably won't be benefiting from driver updates, we can expect the Fury X to start beating the 980 Ti at stock and competing well with it OC vs OC.
>support AMD
get called AMDrone, poorfag
>support nvidia
get called nvidiot, cuck
Am I missing something?
>>54985137
>There's always an Intel/Nvidia killer just around the corner, but you have to wait! Just wait! You'll see!
Like when NVIDIA's flagship 680 got curbstomped by the 7970 and is now slower than a $200 7870? I sure hope you aren't being paid for this.
fuck this thread, shilling for Nvidia is hard when I buy AMD products
>>54985141
>We're comparing cards from the same time period, three years later
But only the AYYMDPOORFAG still owns that same card three years later. Nvidia owners have moved on and are enjoying cutting edge performance, rather than clinging to a three year old card and trying their best to convince themselves that it's still relevant. Nobody cares about how deprecated hardware performs except AYYMD owners.
>>54985163
>Like when NVIDIA's flagship 680 got curbstomped by the 7970
>things that never happened
Nobody cares how a 680 or a 7970 performs in 2016. Get a job.
>>54985188
>release day benchmarks
Yeah, just three months later with the 12.11 driver update the 7970 was winning by an even larger margin. And there was no new NVIDIA card for you to buy. There is a virtually unanimous consensus that Tahiti > GK104. GK104 is now slower than Pitcairn.
I'm not going to keep responding to your posts anymore, I'm just going to leave you with this: I really hope you don't get paid.
>>54985215
>winning by an even larger margin
It's losing comfortably. You say that changed quickly, so you'll have absolutely no trouble producing proof, right? It's "unanimous" after all, so no doubt it'll be easy to find. Oh, but what's this? You're not going to reply any more after making an unsubstantiated claim that you knew I'd call you out on? How convenient.
The difference between me and you is that I KNOW you're not getting paid for this either way after getting BTFO this hard. :^)
>>54985001
This, honestly even if you have the money it's just retarded and throwing away money for no reason. Like you can just work less and save the money to actually play the video games you bought the damn thing for.
Fuck off AMDrone shill cucks.
The new 1080 is the most powerful card ever made, and not buying it would be some typical AMcuck mistake.
Just because you're a bunch of neckbeard autistic shills who don't understand economics doesn't mean shit to me, you're just proud of your inferior and low owner systems.
Plus the fury x is the worst fucking overheated cuck card ever, which will never be able to compete with Nvidia superiority
>inb4 muh power draw
>Inb4 muh price
>inb4 muh hot card
It doesn't fucking matter
>>54985256
Here you go, last post, friend.
>>54984951
I bought my 780tis at $180 a pop, and can 60fps everything at 4k. Nice try amd shill.
>>54985293
What? Where?
I have a HD7950 reference I got on day one and you AMD shills are working overtime, this thing can't run modern games at high/medium settings 60FPS anymore.
It was a god like card when it came out but now is nothing but console quality trash.
I'm surprised there are people who pay full price for the 280X/380
>>54985292
Wow, Cat 12.11 was a long time ago too.
I remember 12.2 was the version that turned the 7950 into a 660ti killer, and had overclocked cards tackling the GTX 670. Its pretty easy to see the 7970 coming to outperform the 680.
This was way back in 2012 still. Guess AMD GPUs really do hold up over time.
>>54985335
You're saying that while the 280X is now equal to a GTX 780? Are you the same poster here? >>54985188
>>54985335
I put a deposit on a 380X before it was even available in my region because I was voting with my wallet on more power efficient, mid-tier cards, with open source drivers. (At the time, amdgpu only supported GCN1.2)
>>54985365
No, I'm the poster that knows playing videogames with above console quality.
>>54985351
>Its pretty easy to see the 7970 coming to outperform the 680.
The 7970 has been the better card since June of 2012 and its lead has only been growing ever since. Now the 680 is 7870-tier.
>>54985406
If you had paid more money for a 680 or 770 you'd be getting even worse performance today so I'm not sure what you're complaining about.
>>54985292
>comparing factory overclocked cards to reference cards
Another trick of the AYYMDPOORFAG, used most frequently with the 390 versus the 970. The 7970 is 1% there versus a launch 680. Where's the comparison to Nvidia's latest driver at the time? Where's this "large margin" you were talking about? You're going to need to do better than this, friend. Go on, have another go.
>>54985365
>280X is now equal to a GTX 780
Nice meme and using the stock vs overclock trick again. A 280X is just a factory-overclocked 7970. It's, at best, slightly behind a stock 780 even then. Then you overclock the 780 too and it streaks away again, because AYYMD's cards are clocked to near their limit out of the box just to keep up with stock Nvidia cards. Hence why the """""overclock's dream""""" Fury X can barely overclock at all, whilst you can add 400MHz to literally any 980 Ti at stock voltage.
The factory overclock versus stock trick isn't working any more, guys. People have seen through it. You need new material.
>>54985433
I don't know where in in the universe you live because when the HD7950 came out Nvidia had nothing to compete and the HD7950 was more than $500 and way more expensive than anything Nvidia had at the moment.
>>54985446
not him but are you fucking stupid? the 280x is clocked lower than 7970ghz and mine runs a 25% overclock with no problems. the 680 hits the same clock speeds as the 7970/280x yet has a higher clock out of the box.
>>54985472
The HD 7950 debuted at $450 (680 did at $500) and the price crashed quickly after 2-3 months when the 680 and 670 came out. Additionally I don't see what NVIDIA not having a competing card has to do with the fact that, even when NVIDIA's lineup was released, it was worse than the card you bought anyway.
>>54985504
AMD's overclock potential actually was better back then, yes. My 7950 does 1200/1800 at 1.3v, stock clocks are 800/1250. That's a 50% overclock. Even when I bought it in 2012 it held its own against overclocked 680s.
>>54985532
lmao this kid
The HD7950 was priced at $700 at every retailer for months and that was even before the buttcoin mining became popular.
its pretty obvious you weren't in the scene when the 7000 series was released which wasn't very long anyway, speaks volumes on the kind of people who currently browse /g/ and those kind of threads.
>>54985638
>he HD7950 was priced at $700 at every retailer for months and that was even before the buttcoin mining became popular.
completely made up
>>54985691
Bought my HD7950 closely after launch for 300ish euro.
>>54984951
>read post
>ohshit.jpg
>look at graph
>1440p
>opinion discarded
>>54985188
This is true. I have a 980 and I'll be looking for an upgrade this time next year just because these older generation cards, no matter which company they're from, can't manage 1080p60 at maximum settings in the newer games. It's just logical to upgrade every 3 or so years.
>>54984951
Nvidia keep shitting out new architectures which causes the driver quality for their previous architecture cards to plummet. It is known.
Meanwhile AMD made a single long-term architecture that they can keep updating alongside their new cards because they're so similar.
Nvidia fucked up big time.
Why is this a thread again?
It's a fucking graphics card. Buy the fastest card at the price you're willing to pay. Is it an AMD? Get that. nVidia? Get that. Done.
Nvida makes so much money from "whales".
Some of you people genuinely buy a 980, then a 980 Ti, then a 1080, then a 1080 Ti. It's just idiotic.
>muh 1440p 144hz tri-SLI Ultra maxed out settings
Do you even play video games anymore? High and even medium settings usually look the same. Anything over 75hz is placebo too.
>>54984951
A gimping each gen keeps the goyim in fear
>>54985095
>High utilization rate on the SIMD
Eh not really. But there's a fix for that, 490213
36 CU is a hair below the Fury desu, it ain't a 980 Ti match.
>>54984992
Pretty much this. At this point it looks like the AMD side of things is looking up for me. Linux drivers for it are improving, and Blender finally supports OpenCL as an alternative to CUDA and they're even getting AMD help to improve it. I won't be getting rid of my GTX 970 any time soon, but when I do I'll be ditching it for an AMD card.
>>54984951
>tfw gtx680
>handles all my games fine
>don't buy anything newer than gta v out of fear thanks to /g/ shills
>>54985281
This guy gets it. For 13 years I had a PC with a 1.8GHz AMD Sempron with integrated GeForce 6100 graphics (later upgraded to a PCI GT 610) and I was fine. For the next 13 years I'll be using this i7 4790 and a GTX 970 and I'll be fine. Who needs yearly upgrades?
>>54986672
Agreed. Went from a q8400+gtx260 to an i5 4460+r9 380.next upgrade will be in ~ 5-6 years.
>>54986585
>I have no idea what the fuck I'm talking about
Stick to /v/ threads, child.
Contradicting the very basis for the GCN architecture is full retard.
>>54985095
This sounds impressive.
>>54984985
You buying JEWVIDIA is like a person who has no knowlege of technology says that they buy Apple for quality
>>54984999
Two RX 480 performs better than a 1080 for a lower price. :^)
>>54984985
>>54984999
>>54985188
>>54985288
>>54985446
I like to overpay for my gpu
>knew guy on Steam
>when he got his 680, he bragged for weeks
>then he got a 2nd in SLi
>literally had it in his Steam name (something like "680 SLI")
and now you can buy a used 7870 for $80 each that'll perform the same
>>54987006
holy crap that's hilarious. PM him the chart, anon.
>>54986369
this post is nothing about drivers and more about memory amount
the new AMD rebrands simply have more VRAM than the old nvidia cards, which do well in 1440p+ resolutions
why he is comparing old cards to new? No idea
>>54985020
how can one upgrade their gpu every year if amd and nvidia only release new products every 2 years?
>>54985086
>a game from 2016
>the resolution most people use
it's pretty relevant. Who cares what is written on the paper if it can't do his job properly ?
>biased, specific non-real world benchmarks mean everything
Why do you idiots continue to post these shitty graphs that provide no useful information and jump to the conclusion that [THE GRAPHICS CARD BRAND I DON'T USE] is inferior to [THE ONE I DO]?
Fuck off, you underage, underdeveloped piles of shit. Go back to Facebook where you belong.
>>54986672
I plan to do the same if I ever get my hands on a Fury Nano, a 970 or a RX 480 at least
>tfw you bought an i7 2600k and 7979 GHz Edition back in 2011
>didnt upgrade a single time
>everything works
>>54987006
I hard a steam "friend" name MarkGTX580 then he changed his name to MarkGTX770 and now he is MarkGTX970. He will probably become MarkGTX1070 or something.
I can't imagine how anyone could be so pathetic that they name themselves after graphics cards but some people...
>>54988371
All those nvidia cards can't even beat cards half their price when released. It's pathetic that nvidiots never learn.
>>54986412
>High and medium settings look the same.
The battlecry of the amd owner.
>>54986724
If you give a GCN SIMD something that only requires 4 vector operations, it takes as much hardware as 16 vector operations (assuming same operation) despite being four times more work.
GCN SIMD are only frequently 100% used, and what I was referring to helps mitigate that.
It's better than VLIW usage wise sure
>>54985071
>implying direct x12 is actually a thing in gaming
>implying there's any gains from direct x12
>implying being spied on is worth direct x12
i find it ironic how most amdfags are the first to dismiss windows 10 as a botnet, however they cling to dx12 as the savior of their brand.
>>54986672
I like playing triple A games at high settings though. I doubt a 970 will do that well in 4 years time.
>>54989401
>how do I operate a checkbox to opt out
>>54989409
The names of the settings may move on, but the actual visual quality stays constant. I'm happy with the visual quality of the games my graphics card renders, and that quality will not drop over time. Except it probably will because it's an nvidia card but I'm ignoring that for now.
>>54989434
>implying it's that easy
>implying it's not hidden as well as microsoft can
>implying that checkbox isn't actually 50 registry hacks and a polite letter to microsoft signed in the blood of orphans
>implying that it is anything but a placebo in the end
>mfw bought a 380 only 2 months ago
Pic very related
>>54989434
you have to have windows 10 to have dx12. simple as that.
you can't opt out of the telemetry unless you're running enterprise versions.
your argument is invalid
>>54985020
I bet you upgrade your smartphone annualy too like a retarded applefag.
>>54985137
>>cherrypicking CPU-bound gaymes
>>92.4 is a lower number than 92.1
>AYYMDPOORFAGS are really this desperate.
AMDCANTINTOCPUOVERHEADRETARD
You literally know nothing. If the game was "SEE PEE EWE BOUND" Nvidia would have the edge. Kill yourself right now.
>>54985137
>Yes. I'm sure I'll lose a lot of sleep over what somebody dumb enough to have bought an AYYMD housefire thinks of me too. :^)
I'm sure such a retarded fermi-poster as you would lose sleep over graphics cards. You probably even have a special calendar budget for the next twelve months when the 1050 comes out, the only card you can afford after your second hand 750Ti
>>54989452
>Implying that it isn't that easy
>Implying that is isn't the fraction of the work involved getting anything to do anything on any distro
>>54989466
I meant opting out of the botnet shit; not the entire OS
>>54984951
FUCK
I thought they would stop cucking old cards after I sold my 780ti for a 980ti.
This is retarded now I'll seriously consider moving to the 4XX series from AMD.
>>54989623
>implying you're not a literal tard
go back to plebbit, summer
>>54988839
Actually, this year it'll be MarkGTX1060
>>54989633
>Implying that you have an argument
>>54989645
says the tard who thinks that it's as easy as checking a box and that linux is at all hard. Honestly, this is b8 of the lowest quality. I'm disappointed in you anon.
>>54989623
>implying linux is hard
You must be new here, friend. Allow me to assist you. You have found your way onto the board known as /g/, the technology board. You're looking for /v/, the video game board. Don't worry, it's an easy mistake to make. The keys are super close on your keyboard, and to the average autist that browses /v/, the boards might look a little similar as well. No worries, mate. Just click this little link and it'll take you right to your new containment board.
>>>/v/
>>54989623
>I meant opting out of the botnet shit; not the entire OS
you cannot unless you're on an enterprise edition, even then they collect info. checking boxes literally does nothing for you, but go ahead and think that.
you look more and more ignorant every time you type.
>>54989657
You can't tell me that you have trouble checking a few boxes and changing a few registry entries, whilst condescending about Linux.
>>54989682
You missed my point entirely, if you aren't in fact the same person. I simply meant that when comparing time spent, turning W10 into a botnet free OS is no more time consuming than getting basic shit running on Linux, regardless of expertise.
You're confusing difficulty with convolution.
>>54989695
Really, you're making a third post now? Jesus Christ you really are insecure. Again, if you're not capable of making Win10 botnet free, then you have no authority to condescend. Fucking pleb
>>54989695
>being delusional
>>54989764
You missed my point entirely. Even if you do check those boxes and change those entries, none of it actually works unless you pay through the nose to get or just pirate the enterprise version. "Don't spy on me" isn't a feature you should have to pay extra for.
Getting basic stuff running on linux takes as much time as it does to install. If you're not installing some distro's netinstall version then it's all there for you already.
>>54989764
For the record, only those first two are me.
>>54989792
I'm not sure if you're delusional or if i'm naive. Probably somewhere inbetween.
>>54985157
rather be called a poorfag than a cuck
>>54989792
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>>54989883
>>54989898
My hat is tin foil tyvm. Solid tin contains numerous sensors and microprocessors (redundancy to prevent removal) distributed throughout it that take advantage of the hat's conical shape to boost their signal, allowing them to broadcast directly to NSA satellites.
It's well documented by microsoft themselves that you can't completely shut off telemetry without 3rd party hacks or enterprise. All you can do is reduce it.
>>54989883
About which part? As far as linux, while the install might not be easy for the total newbie, it's not much different from installing some program on windows. And most desktop-oriented distros come with software out of the box to do most computer-y things. Browse the web, check your email, create documents. I'm not sure if that's what you meant by basic stuff though.
>>54989462
I just sold mine yesterday, why aren't you doing the same anon?
>>54985163
AMD is still selling 7870s and 7970s as new cards.
It's not surprising that those cards are still getting the benefits of driver optimizations. It's not that the Nvidia cards got slower, It's just that AMD takes about 3-4 years to actually fix their goddamn drivers.
So basically if you want performance right now, Go with Nvidia. If you want to wait 3 years to brag about how your deprecated card beats other deprecated cards go with AMD.
Unfortunately AMD retards have no concept of the time value of money.
>>54984951
>tfw 1090t and 680; best of both worlds from 2k11-2
>only update the drivers till the 700 series got released
>not even gimped at all
>heard about jewidia skimmish driver sabotage scene going on
>hold the same drivers even til this day
>it's "current year" and they're still doing this
Now I'm thinking about getting the opposite soon.
>intel/amd
>>54984951
Everyone has caught on to nvidia's shit by now
>friend A spends a small fortune back in 2014 to build a gaming PC
>i7 4770K, GTX770 in sli, watercooling
>friend B builds a budget PC with used parts (i5, gtx 960) about a month ago
>friend A is getting like 15-20 fps less than him on DOOM
glad I didn't listen to /v/ and went with a PS4 this gen
>>54988960
Fucking true.
Those Top Fuel dragsters can't beat the Renault Twingo price/performance, pure shit, those they even melt the transmission, it's fermi all over again am I right? :^) (s [/sarcasm] #Sargasm @sarcasm.org
>>54991822
is this real?
>>54984999
>>inb4 muh power draw
>>Inb4 muh price
>>inb4 muh hot card
Seems to matter when it's about AMD.
>>54994861
Welcome to the wonderful world of novidia shills
>>54990084
If you read your post from bottom to top is the toppest keks of all.
>>54984999
>power throttling
>worse than polaris
>worse than vega
>no HBM
>just shit all around
somebody ought to talk to your mum and tell her why it's not wise to give you money
