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So the store I usually buy from has the Dell U2417H for 220€. Kept searching and couldn't find it for lower than 275€, so I took the chance and ordered 2 to replace my current 22' tv-only-working-as-a-monitor and 17' secondary monitor. How bad did I fuck up and where could I find a better price?

>Inb4 1080p 60hz
>Inb4 pls
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That's a good price.
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>>54976911
No idea.
Some time ago I bought a 1080p IPS LED LG monitor.
Now my eyes suffer.
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>>54976943
What do you mean by that?
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>>54976911
https://www.365tageoffen.de/detail/index/sArticle/62230?campaign=psm/geizahls_at/Monitore/MonitoreTFTSonstige
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>>54976943

Odd.

The tv these are replacing is also an ips lg. Don't have any issue, but I do have f.lux on, don't know how much it can affect or not.
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>>54977042
I have eyestrain with that monitor.
I don't know if its flicker (says it's flicker safe) the blues or the fact that anti glare scatters the light in some manner that my eyes don't like.
I'll have an appointment with the ophthalmologist. The, if there isn't anything bad with my eyes, will replace this shit.
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>>54976911
They were recently selling them for a good price at balli whatever, I ordered myself a 25" model for like £200, great screen for the price, outdoes my Apple one which has the same res and that cost over £1000
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>>54977042
he means IPS is shit and is bad for your eyes. this has been pretty much proven.
nothing like a quality TN panel. instead of wasting your money on an IPS panel, buy a 144hz TN panel.
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>>54977079

What else but german. I got mine of computeruniverse, price is still the same, give or take for vat depending on country.
>Could've had them for lower if not for our 23% vat
I've heard about 365tage before, but never dealt with them honestly.
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>>54977218
?b-but muh color reproduction
>b-but muh viewing angles
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>>54977230

Nah, ips type for me. I can live with poor angles, but not with washed colors
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>>54977230
IPS panels bleed colours and ghost. it's awful.
and literally who cares about viewing angles? how often do you look at your monitor from an angle exactly? maybe when youre watching porn and you stand up to cum but is that really the reason you buy an IPS panel?

back in the day TN panels did have their problems but todays TN panel are pretty much fixed.
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>>54977300

Any particular reason tn is fixed but ips isn't? Mine has neither noticeable bleed not ghosting.
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>>54977346

>*nor ghosting

Thanks autocorrect
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>>54977346
because IPS panels are newer and still have their problems while TN panels have been around for a long time and had a long time to perfect it.
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>>54977391

Such as what else? Like I said mine has neither of the problems you mention.
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>>54977346
Go to http://www.testufo.com/
Watch the ufo, if you see any blur whatsoever you fail.
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>>54977451
input lag, lower response rate, and yes your panel is bleeding and ghosting. just because you don't notice it doesn't mean it isn't there. you can't see the difference between 1 and 10ms response rate either but that doesn't mean 1ms isnt objectively better.
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>>54977509

Passed, just like I said.
What I didn't expect though is the 17' tn panel performing worse. Oh well, a 10 year old design can't exactly work miracles, even if it's a tn.
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>>54977574
17'..?
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>>54977300
>how often do you look at your monitor from an angle exactly?
Are you only pretending to be retarded?
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>>54977515
>input lag, lower response rate, ghosting
Irrelevant if you're over the age of 15, i.e. you don't play video games.
>bleeding
Not inherent to IPS
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>>54977515

Yes, it's part of the nature of an ips, but why is it a problem if I don't notice it? Just like a tn shits the bed at angles and color reproduction, even if you don't care it still performs worse. What you're implying is it's better because synthetic numbers, which honestly makes you sound dangerously like a shill
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>>54977617

17 inch, an old 4:3
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This kills the TN

only works unscaled + fullscreen
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>>54977658
>sitting 30 cm from your computer
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>>54977715
>>54977706
repeatable wallpaper
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>>54977668

Funny part is I checked the Dell reviews before buying, their input lag rivals most high end tn's, and the announced 8ms response time is an average, rather than a best case scenario announced by the 1ms ones
>Mfw I once saw a "1ms" panel that on certain cases drops to almost 20ms
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>>54977658
>>54977668
>>54977683
oh look guys it's the IPS jew. everyone say hi, IPS jew!

>>54977704
so it's an outdated TN panel. those are the bad ones.

>>54977706
if your monitor is right in front of you and at the right height, you don't notice anything. only if you move your head around you can see a difference. so either your monitor isn't in the right position or you're a kid who can't sit still.
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>>54977892

>Oh no! They successfully countered all my points! Better call them jews, that will surely win me the argument
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>>54977936
who are you?
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>>54977892

So are old ips. Both panels have their issues fixed, not only tn's
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>>54977950
TN doesn't have its issues fixed
It still has horrible color accuracy, viewing angles and contrast.
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>>54977892
Holy fuck its just a panel. Ever heard of personal perference? Why the fuck would you shill a certain panel type? just be happy with what you enjoy and fuck right off. Each to their own
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>>54977967

What he implied is tn panels were improved over the years, but somehow ips weren't
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>>54977950
okay so we can agree that IPS panels are a waste of money unless you care about something as retarded as viewing angles or over exaggerated colours.

>>54977967
>colours and viewing angles
read above
>contrast
actually TN panels have better contrast
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>>54977982
so if it's a preference then why do IPS cucks always act like IPS is better?
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>>54977892

I can't even imagine having a TN panel on a phone or tablet.

less-mobile Laptops and Monitors are fine though, some early TN panels are really shitty though, newer ones give you about 15-20 degrees in any direction before color really starts shitting up your experience. (fine for stationary monitors/laptops)

IPS is obviously best for color reproduction, but it's generally slower unless you shell out big $$ for it. higher speed IPS monitors also burn out the video board quite a bit--

source: guy who works on monitors, replacing power and video boards on various monitors in a location with 5,000+ monitors in an area the size of a home depot..

I own a BenQ 1440p 144hz 1ms TN panel for gaming. I'll just buy a 4K HDR 144hz monitor when they're available. (along with Vega 10 or 1080 Ti)
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>>54977990

>okay so we can agree that IPS panels are a waste of money unless you care about something as retarded as viewing angles or over exaggerated colours.

Depends, can agree that TN panels are a waste of money unless you care about something as retarded as monitor lag or response times?
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>>54977300
>stand up to cum
but why?
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>>54978079
because thats what the porn actor is doing. it makes it more interactive.

ugh dont you know anything?
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>>54978100
No i usually just suck my own dick
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>>54978007
It all depends on what your using the panel for so ips vs tn panels retarded. If you need absolute color reproduction for graphic design or just want colors to pop in games get an ips but for general browsing media and games get tn...in the end its all personal preference in what you think is the best solution for you. Who gives a fuck if other people shill ips its just as pathetic as amd vs nvidia. If your happy with your purchase then it doesnt matter what other people think, just ignore it. I run dual monitors one ips one tn so Im not on any particular side.
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>>54978059
but TN panels are cheaper than IPS panels, that's why i said it's a waste of money. so that's not an argument. just because it costs more doesn't automatically mean it's better.
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What's the best TN panel in terms of color accuracy and viewing angles?
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>>54976911
At least you didn't buy this
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>>54978209
I have a benq xl2430T. Accoring to Toms Shillware it has pretty good vewing angles and covers 99.6% of srgb color space.
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>>54978121

Entry level tn's are cheaper. The high end ones you are shilling are the same price as ips ones, if not more expensive.
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>>54976911
You can overclock them to (72/1.001)Hz without frameskipping with these settings.
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>>54977248
This
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>>54977300
u2515, two of them. Neither ghost. And bleed non-existant.

Stop living in 2012
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>>54978435

Sadly sRGB is not that impressive of a standard, since it only covers 72% of the color gamut. Went and checked that review, the 68% adobergb is a bit disppointing
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>>54978484
that's a personal experience, not an argument.

>>54978447
not true. TN panels are cheaper than IPS panels. even the best ones. the whole monitor may be more expensive because of the extra features and build quality it has, but the TN panel itself is cheaper than IPS.
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>>54978468

Speaking of which, if you guys have an ips and the colors seem washed, make sure color reproduction is set to "full rgb range" instead of limited, made a noticeable difference on mine.
Apparently some video cards recognize monitors connected through hdmi (and rare cases displayport) as tv's, especially nvidia's, and set a limited rgb range (16-235 instead of the full 0-255 range).
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>>54978787

>not true. TN panels are cheaper than IPS panels. even the best ones. the whole monitor may be more expensive because of the extra features and build quality it has, but the TN panel itself is cheaper than IPS.

Your point being? You buy the whole monitor package, not just the panel.
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>>54978787


Important to note that in 1 or 2 years TN will be reserved for the absolute minimum spec of monitors, IPS will be mainstream and HDR will be the new thing. TN and IPS colors are just absolutely shit when compared to an HDR panel
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>>54978856
>HDR
is not a display technology.
is not a display technology.
is not a display technology.

It just described a "high dynamic range", which could be anything. CRTs have high dynamic range.
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>>54978834
if you want just a plain better monitor with better build quality then ofcourse it's going to cost more, but it has nothing to do with the quality of the panel.

>>54978856
not an argument. you are saying that TN is below IPS, while in reality they both have pros and cons and TN panels actually have more pros than IPS panels for the average 4chan user. so TN panels have more pros than IPS panels, plus they cost less for the panel. and what do you mean with minimum spec exactly? because price does play a role. if i can get the best monitor for the least amount of money, how is that a bad thing?
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>>54977218
>he means IPS is shit and is bad for your eyes. this has been pretty much proven.
[citation needed]
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>>54978899
>It just described a "high dynamic range", which could be anything. CRTs have high dynamic range.
HDR is a marketing buzz word for “extremely high brightness”.

HDR is basically the display version of loudness war
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>>54978972
>average 4chan user.
4chan requires users to be over 18 which precludes video games.
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>>54978899


HDR photography are not the same thing as the new HDR standard which is being implemented into new TV's and Monitors over the next few years.

"HD IS NOT A DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY
It just describes "High Definition"! Sega Genesis had "High Definition Graphics" on the top of it!"

Or terms can and will change and you need to catch on, massive fucking pleb...
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>>54978972

>if you want just a plain better monitor with better build quality then ofcourse it's going to cost more, but it has nothing to do with the quality of the panel.

You know what, I'm already off work, and I have nothing better to do, I'll bite the bait.

Alright then, let's play a game. Same store, I'll check prices for both 144hz TN vs. IPS.

On 24 inches:
-Cheapest 144hz TN at 250€
-Cheapest IPS at 130€, and before 250 I'm already having tons of business-class ones.

Same story on 27 inches, cheapest TN at 350€, cheapest IPS at 185.

Do you want me to go on?
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>>54979052
not an argument.
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>>54976911
Man, I just got myself a AOC 1440p 144Hz monitor for the same price. Kek.
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>>54979115
you are comparing 144hz to 60hz now. that's a completely different story. if you want to compare TN to IPS prices, use the same factors, ie same frequency.
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>>54979028


HDR panels are far more than just "brighter". They offer a massive contrast ratio.

Most monitors today have just more than 1000:1 contrast ratio. Some shitty marketing guy started saying "1 million to 1 Dynamic Contrast Ratio".... which basically started a whole shitstorm of lies surrounding display technology which half of you fucking morons are still falling for!

HDR standard has an actual contrast ratio far exceeding any IPS panel on the market today. In order to utilize it, you need a new panel, a new video board on the TV or monitor itself, a compatable Graphics chip (HDR is only available on GTX 900 series and R9 290/260 series and up)

You also require a newer DP or the newest HDMI standard to actually carry that signal over as well, as HDR spec requires a massive increase in data to transfer the improved image quality.
While CRTs had perfect contrast for their time,

"HDR is something even further. it extends the HDR capabilities of existing technologies by driving the tone map through their hardware. This involves not only developing a hardware standard for monitors but also incorporating the technology into graphic chips."

Similar to how HD required an HD signal, HDR content will need a HDR signal in order to actually work. It's a complete re-tooling of how tone-maps currently work, and those tone-maps were created as a standard way back when the first color TV's were invented, and haven't really changed since.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvD37UUcdIo
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>>54979221

skip to 3:45 for HDR interview
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>>54979208

Let's go back to >>54977218

>he means IPS is shit and is bad for your eyes. this has been pretty much proven.
nothing like a quality TN panel. instead of wasting your money on an IPS panel, buy a 144hz TN panel.
>instead of wasting your money on an IPS panel, buy a 144hz TN panel.
>buy a 144hz TN panel.

Will you stop carrying the goalposts around the field now?
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>>54976911
I have U2414H, I really like it.
Obviously if you wanted 144hz or 4k then you are a fucking retard for buying it, but it's an excellent, cheap monitor for people who didn't fall for meme resolutions or meme refresh rates.

Just make sure to have it calibrated AND set the color profile in your OS as well. That way you can avoid having your eyes burn out like a fucking retard such as >>54976943
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>>54979221
The only meaningful (physical) quantity standardized by HDR is moving the white point to 10000 cd/m^2 (for comparison, typical displays are at around 250 cd/m^2).

You're paying for a display that's 10x brighter, good job.
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>>54978458
I have a U2414H does that work too? And is that secure or will it kill my monitors quickly?
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>>54979272

>Obviously if you wanted 144hz or 4k then you are a fucking retard for buying it

Don't care for neither of them. I value color reproduction much more, I'd rather have dual 1080's for multitasking, I don't game that often and unless you consider Fallout 4 a fast paced game, I take no benefit from high refresh rates.
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>>54979308


You fail to take into account the massive increase in color depth and the added insurance that your contrast is going to be amazing out of the box. TN contrast is shit and IPS is meh, I would prefer a 1080p HDR monitor over a 4K monitor at the same price any day of the week
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>>54979245
i never said 144hz TN panels are cheaper than 60hz IPS panels. what you're doing is severe strawmanning.
what i said is that you're better off buying a 144hz TN panel than a 60hz IPS panel. never ever did i mention anything about them being cheaper than 60hz IPS panels.

>Will you stop carrying the goalposts around the field now?
do not disrespect my intelligence. i have been directly refuting the arguments in this thread regarding IPS vs TN panels. the fact that i recommended a 144hz monitor as my personal preference is not shifting the goalpost. if anything, you are shifting the goalpost by making it a 144hz compared to a 60hz monitor.
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It's a good 1080@60 IPS pivot monitor for a great price that looks really good and is very suitable for multi-monitor setups. If that's what you wanted, you dun gud.
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>>54979221
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvD37UUcdIo
Holy shit the amount of marketing bullshit and misinformation in this is making me cringe.

>implying CRTs even have a meaningful dynamic range
>implying HDR has “more colors”, whatever that means
>only difference pointed out is the black level, which has fuck-all to do with dynamic range
>implying HDR affects “sharpness” at all
>comparing a meaningless buzz word like HDR against physical technologies like IPS and MVA
>claiming to be a gamer and liking MVA panels. lol.

just fucking ridiculous. If I was there I'd ask him if he's genuinely this fucking clueless or if marketing is just forcing him to misinform the people he's talking to.

>>54979343
>You fail to take into account the massive increase in color depth
blah blah blah. There is no fucking difference except for the grossly inflated brightness (which is what you mean by “dynamic range”) and marginally lower black levels

>TN contrast is shit and IPS is meh, I would prefer a 1080p HDR monitor over a 4K monitor at the same price any day of the week
t. marketing shill. I can't wait for you to actually have HDR displays sitting on your desk so the extreme brightness burns out your retinas and causes eye fatigue, headaches and nausea.

Fuck, I'm running my displays on 60 cd/m^2 as we speak, even 250 makes my eyes feel physical pain. I do NOT want a fucking 10,000 cd/m^2 display and the sooner you consumer idiots realize this the better.
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>>54979360


IPS vs TN

buy a good IPS if:
You do photo/video editing
You watch movies
You appreciate color depth

Buy a good TN if:
You're a gamer
You like faster input

Cheaper IPS and TN both have the same advantages/flaws, but their amplified.

Some of the best TN panels have close to IPS color reproduction and very good viewing angles.

While some of the best IPS panels have higher refresh rates and lower input lag

The expensive TN's are going to cost you 600-700$

The expensive IPS are going to cost you 600-1200$

At that point, the differences are actually not as noticeable on monitors.

I still think if you buy a product today: TV's, phones and tablets should all be IPS.

TN panels are only relevant in Monitors and only because you can get 1ms 1440p 144hz for 500$.

The IPS equivalent is still not as fast and will cost you 700$ (but ofc better picture)
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>>54979360

>i never said 144hz TN panels are cheaper than 60hz IPS panels
I used your post as reference to >>54978787, assuming of course this is not samefagging.

The point of the discussion always was comparing the high refresh rate - high response time TN against an IPS. Entry level TN's were never in scope.
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>>54979420
Yes, as you turn your brightness up, the entire fucking screen lights up like a god damn light bulb doesn't it? HDR doesn't do that, it's pretty obvious just watching the video that the HDR screen is much darker overall (save the stars) than the other display, and on that other display, the goddamn blacks look like gray and the fucking stars look like gray.

Are you a little butthurt you spent 1000$ on a tech that's going to be buried in 2 years by something far better? You might want to get off this board because that's how it goes in the tech world, kiddo.
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>>54979469
the problem is that TN memesters try to present this as if IPS completely unsuitable gaymun purposes. Unless you're some fucking faggot "pro gamer" manchild who uses minimum graphics settings in order to achieve slightly danker k/d ratios, IPS is completely fine for gaming. In fact it is better because the game just fucking looks better.
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>>54979530
Agreed. Civ:BE and Europa Universalis are perfectly playable on my IPS. I don't play anything else.
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>>54979523
So the only thing you care about is the dark level, not the brightness? Got it.

Then explain to me what HDR accomplishes that a CRT or OLED display does not.
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>>54979530


I gamed on a 20ms response time monitor for quite a while as a kid back in the early days of LCD. I never had any complaints.

Realistically the difference between a 9ms IPS and a 1ms TN response time are going to go unnoticed by almost everyone.

It's one of those things where idiots are going to try and upgrade their graphics cards to the newest and most expensive Nvidia and AMD solutions for their 1080p 60hz monitor, and then argue over who has the biggest E-peen when both cards get 300+ FPS... In the end no one gives a shit.

IPS is objectively better looking though, although it's not ungodly so. especially when you look at a newer more expensive TN. The problems are still there but they're not bad by any means.
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>he built a "rig"
>his keyboard is backlit
>his monitor is a TN
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>>54979469
like i already said, the vast majority of 4chan users would be more interested in TN panels. they are a better choice for general webbrowsing and gaming. if you are actually into photo or video editing which isn't as common as gaming and webbrowsing, you might want an IPS monitor. just keep in mind that they will generally cost more, depending on the build quality. the fact that TN panels today have improved so much that they come very close to the colours of IPS panels, makes TN panels an even better choice.

now, regaring TV's phones and tablets, IPS panels actually are the better choice because viewing angles are actually important in those devices, as opposed to PC monitors. but i never argued about that.

>>54979504
when someone says high end TN panel, he doesn't automatically mean 144hz. 144hz TN panels are a completely different category and a completely different topic. we were talking about high end IPS panels vs high end TN panels, not 60hz vs 144hz. so if you truly want to compare TN with IPS regarding price, do not bring up a 144hz TN panel and a 60hz IPS panel.
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>>54979409

Exactly what I wanted. What I'm curious to find is how the PLS panel compares. Apparently Dell switched to a Samsung PLS panel in th 17 series (which let's face it, in the end is pretty much an IPS clone)
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>>54979651
that is not relevant.
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>>54979691

Ok, what do you mean with high end TN panel then?
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>>54979608

I have a BenQ XL2730Z.

It's a TN and I play with brightness from 1/100 to 10/100. If I get into a competitive match of CS I might turn it up to 20/100.

Brightness on monitors has gotten ridiculous. Most tech illiterate assholes are going to choose the phone or TV with the brightest screen over any other. Similiar to Beats headphones, the only thing that matters is how stupidly loud/bright their crap can get.

HDR tech can give me a more realistic view of the world by lowering brightness on the darker parts of the image and increasing brightness on parts that should naturally be brighter. This increases muh immersion levels and gives me less headaches.
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>>54979651
>his case has a plexi glass on the side with a bunch of LED fans inside
>he overclocks his components instead of just buying better ones in the first place because the electricity bill is paid by his mom anyway
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>>54976911
How is backbleeding ?
I want to buy the 1440p version, but I don't know if it's good.
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>>54979746

I don't know, waiting for them to arrive.

From what I've read, it's there, like any ips panel, but it's unnoticeable on normal usage.
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>>54979716
the newer TN panels. the same thing you mean with high end IPS panels. because you didn't bring up a 144hz IPS panel either so with high end you certainly didn't mean 144hz with high end.
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>>54979734

>He bought a gaming headset instead of some audiophile headphones and a studio microphone
>He owns a "bucket seat" gaming chair
>He has a greenscreen for his twitch channel with 14 subs and 100 total views
>he fell for the gamer meme
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>>54976911

Recently bought a Liyama x2483hsu. 1080p 75hz or some shit, amva display. It was on sale and I paid less than 150 bucks for it. 144hz/1440p is a fucking meme unless you go overkill and either invest in a good TV or a decent 32inch+ display.
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>>54979774

Exactly, 144hz IPS panels were never brought up. 144 TN's on the other hand were, and that's what was discussed all the time.
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It's a fine price. I would have gone for the U2415 myself
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>>54979722
>HDR tech can give me a more realistic view of the world by lowering brightness on the darker parts of the image and increasing brightness on parts that should naturally be brighter. This increases muh immersion levels and gives me less headaches.
So you also want a brighter display. Got it.
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>>54979839

It was there as well, but it was retailing at the 300€.
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>>54979806
we didn't discuss 144hz panels at all. i mentioned it once as my personal recommendation, i never compared them to 60hz IPS monitors. you on the other hand, you did that. if you truly want to compare TN with IPS, they must both be the same frequency. this is what i have been doing all along. but you tried to sneak in that 144hz when comparing IPS to TN prices because that makes it look like TN is more expensive than IPS, which it isn't. 144hz is more expensive than 60hz, but that's not what we were discussing at that moment. it's bizarre because i gave you the facts and your reaction is strawmanning which is an emotional reaction, not a constructive reaction.
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>>54979311
Yes it works
Yes it's safe
No it won't
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>>54980267
Thank you i have set it on 75hz without any problems. Somewhere i've read that 72hz would be better for some 24fps movies, is this true? Or should i try even higher refresh rates or is this too risky? I suppose if 120hz would be possible on a 60hz monitor then nobody would buy those...
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>>54980404

Yes. If we're assuming perfect 24fps, that's exactly 3 screen refreshes for each frame.
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>>54980404
Actually most movies/animu files are encoded at 23.976 i.e. 24/1.001 FPS.
That's why I'm running it at 3x times that, 71.928 Hz, using the settings I posted above.

Oh and 60 FPS on 72/75/whatever Hz won't be smooth anymore, it'll stutter, cause 60 isn't a multiple of it.
That's why 120 Hz is the far superior refresh rate.
It's got it all.
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>>54980489
is 120hz better than 144hz?
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>>54980538
144/60 is uneven

144 is only usable with FreeSync (or the proprietary freedom hating G-Sync)
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>>54980431
>>54980489
So if it isn't an exact multiple it will cause stutters?
Is the 75hz "overclock" even worth it then?
Also will i break my monitor if i try 120hz? Apparently there is some "AMD/ATI Pixel Clock Patcher", but i have no idea of all that stuff and i don't really think that would even possible at all...
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>>54980404
>Watching movies on a computer monitor
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>>54980538
I'd say yes.
If your computer can push your game to 144 FPS locked and at least high settings (it won't) then it's not worth it, in my opinion.

>>54980560
Yeah, that's it.
I don't think it's worth OCing to 75 Hz, because you lose the benefits of having an exact multiple.

>120Hz
It won't work because there probably won't be enough bandwidth (if you're on HDMI), or the screen will just tell you to fuck off because it can't keep with the pace.
U2414Hs only OC up to 85ish Hz, IIRC.
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>>54980588
Hm i see...
Well i leave it on 75hz for now and look if i even see any difference at all. And would 120Hz be possible with another type of cable, like display port or something?
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>>54980572
>present day, present time
>using a tv to watch movies
No seriously why would i need a TV if i have a computer?
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>>54981076
for the living room experience.
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>>54981115
Nah i like my basement
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>>54981145
ok then no tv for you
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>>54980572

This. Pajeet level faggotry right there.
Why people are so scared of bying decent TVs?
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>>54981178
I'm too lazy to pick a TV, then find a suitable spot, then set it up, etc...
I only watch 1-2 films a month.
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>>54981076
>>54981145
You can have your TV and PC in the same room you know (unless you're a NEET living with your parents I guess?), connected with an HDMI cable.
I prefer IPS but yeah using your monitor to watch movies is fucking stupid.
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Pic related. The S2415H is $150 cheaper in canada than the U2414H or U2417H. Am I being retarded or are they comparable?
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>>54982893

Not that related. From memory, glossy panel, fixed stand, ditches displayport for vga, and lacks factory calibration. Essentially a mainstream U series
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>>54979272
>implying I haven't calibrated my monitor
/g/ taking things granted from their arse as usual.
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So
What's the best monitor to the eyes with good colors and 1080p, /g/?
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>U2417H for 225 euro
Nigga I bought a U2515H for 140 USD last year
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