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>AMD HuskyBoard
>Opteron A1120
>quad-core Cortex-A57 clocked at 1.7 GHz
>dual Gigabit Ethernet
>3 SATA 3.0 ports
>expandable memory with DDR3 SO-DIMM slot (up to 16GB supported)
>PCI-E slot for additional networking or storage capabilities
>$99

Where were you when AMD won the microserver war?
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source?
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>>54967454
>ARM with pcie and sata
INTEL IS FINISHED
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>>54967454
This makes me moist...
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>>54967454
Holy shit, think if they would make GPU drivers...
Holy shit, maybe we can port the free AMD drivers.
This is awesome.
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JEWTEL AND NVIDIOT ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>54967454
Neat.
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>>54967454
>HuskyBoard
http://www.96boards.org/products/ee/huskyboard/
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>>54967454
Isn't that just a picture of a board and not actually a board in their hand?
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>>54967454
>Quad-core AMD Opteron A1100 Series CPU
>Two DDR3 SO-DIMM sockets
>Four SATA ports
>Two USB 3.0 ports
>1GBe Ethernet
>x16 PCIe G3 slot
>10-Pin and 38-PIN JTAG headers
>USB-micro port for console support
>Linaro 96Boards Expansion slot
>Standard 160 x 120mm 96Boards Enterprise Edition form factor
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The open source radeon drivers wouldn't work on that would they?
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>>54967628
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>>54967642
They are open source, so we can always make them work.
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>>54967454
>no ECC
>"server"
Dropped.
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>>54967663
Seattle has ECC

http://www.nextplatform.com/2016/01/14/will-amds-seattle-push-arm-servers-into-the-mainstream/

Highest end Seattle SoC has 8 cores
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>>54967663
Where do you see no ECC? Cortex-A57 has ECC, just pop in ECC memory and ECC compatible firmware and boom.
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>>54967454
But will it run Minecraft?
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These are not APUs correct? I assume no based on the intended purpose of these boards.
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>>54967706
Haven't you heard? Java's Run Everywhere, brah
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>>54967454
That's pretty cool, I'll give it that.
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>has TrustZone
NOT
FREE
WILL
NEVER
BE
FREE
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>>54967625
>This board is not yet in mass production, but an alternative version created by LeMaker and called the Cello Board is available for pre order with shipments expected by the end of Q2 2016.
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>>54967716
ARM SoC, pretty much like an X86 APU.
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>>54967680
>just pop in ECC memory and ECC compatible firmware and boom
Oh just like that? Just reflash the bios and blammo, ECC support. The ECC memory will also drive the price up.
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>>54967802
It's ARM, there's no BIOS, only firmware.
I also guess that's what the MicroSD card slot if for, it also houses the firmware, like a Raspberry Pi-
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>>54967706
IDK about AMD but Nvidia has 32-bit ARM support for their 9xx and 10xx GPUs. I'm not sure if this automatically werks on 64-bit ARM.
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>>54967816
>it also houses the firmware, like a Raspberry Pi
what the FUCK are you talking about? The fucking RPi has the operating system on the MSD.
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>>54967454
I think I'll get one
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>>54967454
>$99
Where'd you find that?
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>>54967831
Also the firmware. It's on the "boot" partition, FAT32 one.
Without an MicroSD in the RasPi, it will do absolutely nothing.

Seeing that the AMD board has an MicroSD slot and no flash memory on it's own it's logical it's housed on the card too, making it easy to change, upgrade, tweak.
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>>54967831
OS and firmware goy. Rasputin Pi has no onboard firmware.
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>>54967862
>OS and firmware goy. Rasputin Pi has no onboard firmware.
Is such a thing even possible? I'm calling shenanigans.
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>>54967454
Need to put it in this.
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>>54967648
It's so adorable, it's even smaller than a M-ITX motherboard.
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>>54967454 Why would one want 2+gb ram, pcie, sata/usb3 with such shitty cpu?
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>>54967882

But anyone else who might be curious, heres the firmware, kernel and initfs of a typical Raspbery Pi running raspbian.

https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/tree/master/boot
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>>54967901
None of those are even Cortex A57s though, the raspi3 and odroid are A53s the low power variant and the orange pi is an A7. These are not typical ARM cores, these have a lot of L2 and L3 cache and they have two 10Gbit ethernet controllers embedded into the SoC.
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>>54967743
What's bad about ARM's TrustZone? I've never been able to get a clear answer on whether or not it actually uses separate firmware or a separate processor like Intel's Management Engine or AMD's Security Processor. There's still the possibility of it requiring signed proprietary blobs to boot like most every other high end ARM SBC.
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>>54968037
AMD's "security co-processor" is just a small ARM core that provides TrustZone functionality.
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can i play video games with it
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>>54967901
Power consumption for something running 24/7. Running x86 requires quite a bit more power.
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>>54968136
Yes, but the complaint with AMD's Security Processor is that it's a separate processor that runs proprietary signed firmware that you can neither study, modify, nor choose not to run. I have yet to see proof that those complaints apply equally to ARM's Trust Zone by itself.
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>>54968183
Not him, but I have a home server running desktop Haslel parts with 6 3TB HDDs and it draws like 50W in idle with plenty of CPU power to spare if it needs to do something heavier like live transcoding.
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>>54968183
I've got a J1900 board running pfsense, the power supply's inefficiency draws more than what the board actually draws
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>>54968235
>in idle
That's the thing though, most don't keep the cpu at idle all the time.
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I see 1GBE port. Who gives a fuck. No different than a shitty PI.
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>>54968264
I have a feeling mine is doing the same (J1900 with an ATX PSU). The difference is that the ARM would max out below 10w.
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>>54968446
>PCIe
>SATA
These are things the pi doesn't have.
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>>54968385
Really? What exactly do people run on their home servers that keeps the CPU under reasonably heavy load at all times?

I'm having a hard time imagining what you'd run at home that would create constant CPU load and at the same time you would only want the low performance of ARM.
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>>54968469
Software RAID
Under-gigabit PFSense box
Minimal web servers (actually the pi works well for this)
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>>54968469
Honestly if not for the windows vms I would run a bunch of Pis. Dual x5650s eat power. (Granted I have a 42u rack half filled with servers)
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>>54968183 These opteron A11xx have 25-32W TDP. Just like 2.1-3Ghz 8 thread Xeon 1240Lv5
>>54968469 Plex with transcoding, openvpn with torrents, encrypted nas, i2p nodes.
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>>54968469
So I have Splunk and a series of domain controllers that use about 8 CPUs ( have a dual 2670 workstation with 256GB of ECC ram).

I'm sorry you don't have enough cool tools or knowledge to use CPUs for learning new things.
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>>54968136
>>54968203
Nevermind, just saw this >>54967679 and realized that AMD implemented it as a separate processor the same as they do with their x86 chips. Really wonder how other ARM SoCs do it as even the Raspberry Pi has ARM's TrustZone.
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>>54968489
I run software RAID6 and my home server does basically nothing most of the time. What sort of CPU load do you expect from software RAID if there's no intensive I/O because the server isn't doing anything? Same goes for pfsense and a web server - you're not going to have constant, high load on a server meant for home use.

Everything else pretty much falls under the same category: transcoding, VPN, various network duties, don't generate constant high load. You'll have a CPU usage spike every once in a while but your overall, average load is going to be very low and the system is going to basically idle for the vast majority of time.

My server runs Plex/Emby, OpenVPN, rtorrent (1Gbps connection), a web server for various web interfaces and some other shit on 6x3TB software RAID. I only use it for myself generally and unless I'm watching a video via the Plex web interface (and thus transcoding could be required) or downloading a torrent. Those things don't last long enough to create constant 24/7 load though.

>>54968716
Do you even know what this discussion is about? Are you about to jump out and replace your shit with the $99 ARM board in the OP?
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>>54967454
...so...they can actually make money on this? And actually fund R&D at a competitive level?
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>>54968452
>>54968264
You should just build your own power supply at those load levels anyways.
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>>54967454
>25W TDP
>ARM
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>tfw no small, cheap, ultra low power cpu+mobo combo with onboard SAS2008 chip
fug
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>>54968264
>>54968452
picoPSU you dumb fucks.
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this is old news, interesting little stuff, but
>arm
not thx, a dual core x86 apu would have been more interesting, imo tBh familiar
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>>54968489
>Software RAID
Software RAID shouldn't use much CPU usage unless you are constantly rebuilding/verifying your drives, which means something is wrong.
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>>54969134
I use as the storage backend for VMs. If I were just hosting shit it wouldn't be so high.
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>>54969029
picoPSUs don't usually include component cables (i.e. SATA power).
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>>54969026
>cheap
It'll be awhile before that. Here's SAS3008 based:
http://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=D1540D4U-2O8R#Specifications
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>>54967827
fuck off nvidiot
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>>54969399
On top of that 2x m.2 slots if you want to do tiered storage.
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>>54967454
Can't play Crysis, it's a shit
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>>54967827
It's possible, the Tegra series are ARM.
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>>54969407
We are talking about amd's and nvidia's ARM products not ur gaymer gee pee jews
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>>54969737
>implying that matters for what I said
fuck off nvidiot
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>>54969434
>it's a shit
English can't be your first language.
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>>54970032
You fucking poo in loo i was an NatIGGER before you were born
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>>54967454
Nvidia shows a mockup of their product
>LOL Nvidia woodscrews

AMD shows a fucking piece of printed cardboard.
>MICROSERVER WAR IS OVER, AMD WON.

What did /g/ mean by this?
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>>54967454
dual gbit ports? Looks like only one? I'd pay $200 for it if it had 4 sata and dual gbit ports. Gladly.

Where can I buy this? Or is this vaporware?
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bow down to your microserver overlords
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Can i power it using battery and solar panel?
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>angry birds processor
DOA
O
A
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>>54969367
splice it yourself, dumbass
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>>54969003
this
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What makes this better than a $40 25W TDP 2GHz Athlon x4 5350 + $10 Artic passive cpu heatsink + $40 AM1 mATX motherboard, $90 total?

It better be a real fucking good reason especially since this piece of shit uses an angry birds processor.
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>>54967588
it doesn't have a GPU you fucking meme lord, its right in the name: Opteron. literally the base line no frills line since the 90's
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>>54973932
>What makes this better than a $40 25W TDP 2GHz Athlon x4 5350 + $10 Artic passive cpu heatsink + $40 AM1 mATX motherboard, $90 total?
It's all preassembled, and would run cheaper than what you posted. x86 will have a hard time matching the efficiency of ARM.
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>>54973963
>efficiency of ARM
>>efficiency
so the huskyboard is slower
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>>54967454
>Where were you when AMD won the microserver war?
I was looking for my 199 dollars
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>>54973888
who is this semen demon?
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>>54973981
Ok.
Run the costs for the manhours required to assemble 250 of those systems you threw up. And then find a housing for them. Be sure to take into account if anything should break, you'll need to take into account the warranties of specific parts, once you find out what part that's broken that is.

Now do the same for the Husky. No assembly cost. No time spent finding which specific part has blown itself. Just swap it out with a new board and away you go. No need to find specific housing either, these being targetted for the server market, they use standardised fittings.
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>>54973981
huskyboard has a higher tdp than the athlon 5350 you fucking dumbass.
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>>54974004
pcengines apu
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serverfag here, this a huge joke. Budget servers already use 25w athlon 5350 processors with better energy efficiency than this 30-45w tdp joke. Not only that but some useful software for servers can only run on x86 processors and emulating x86 code on ARM incurs a huge fucking performance penalty.
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>>54973963
>ARM is more energy efficient than x86
When did this meme start?

pic related has the multi-core performance of an overclocked i7-5960X but a TDP of just 65 watts.

Remember folks: you get what you pay for.
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>>54974154
>costs $2k
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>>54968235
>50W idle
thats pretty high family, raspberry draws <5W
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Am i seeing things or is the entire thing powered by molex?
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>>54974196
>has the performance of at least 8 of these angry birds processor memeboards
>accepts up to 128GB RAM
>dual 10Gbit ethernet ports, yes 10Gbit

Like I said, you get what you pay for.
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>>54974223
Raspberry Pi is pretty much the worst thing to attach 6 3TB HDDs to and use as a server though.
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>>54973956
>PCI-E slot for additional networking or storage capabilities
you literly only read the first two lines right?
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>>54974290
can't argue with that.
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>>54974018
i just need one for myself, you sperg
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>>54974020
and it's still slower
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>>54974349
What makes it better than an AM1 microatx board and a 5350? Honest question. 5350 has a tdp of 25w and am1 motherboards easily accept 128GB of RAM (I think).
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>>54974223
those 60W mostly come from the hdds. haslel is pretty low in idle, around 10-15W if configured correctly

the raspberry, on the other hand, is a piece of shit that can't handle all that storage and even if it could, enjoy those transfer speeds over the raspberry's slow usb hub. and enjoy the inevitable crashes thanks to retarded broadcom
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>>54967882
rpi has its firmware on the sd you can read up on it and its a major reason why the rasbian distro has still firmware blobs inside(kinda complicated situation since the gpu is needed for boot but there is a dev working on it at broadcom creating a open source alternative and the patches have been integrated into the kernel since 4.5 i think /still not complete)

https://github.com/anholt
this is the developer writing the gpu drivers needed and firmware
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>>54974380
i meant i need a 5350 system for myself
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>>54974404
Oh sorry, thought I was talking to the retard anon that actually wants to buy this ARM meme board.
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>>54974196
8 core Xeon D 1540 boards are available for less than $900. Half the cores, but still an absurd amount of performance for very little power.
4 core 1520s are less than $500, still slaps the absolute shit out of everything ARM.

The difference here is that these are still enterprise grade, they have guaranteed uptime reliability that consumer components do not.
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>>54974422
i already have a raspberry pi and it just sits unused on the shelf because it keeps crashing after a while on every OS. it's fucking bullshit. i didn't even want to get something like this, my coworkers gave it to me for my birthday because they didn't know any better and they have no clue about tech. raspberry pi confirmed retard-tier meme
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>>54974461
Not him but that's sad to hear. I had hope ARM would provide cheap servers/ultra budget desktops but like anon said a few posts above, you get what you pay for.
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>>54974495
ARM is fine in come cases, but broadcom should fucking kill themselves if they don't release proper documentation and open-source their horseshit. or raspberry should stop being made using this broadcom retardation

otherwise, mitx is best used with x86
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>>54974461
What are you using it for?
My Raspberry Pi went a year without a reboot, and that was only because I needed to move the server where its NFS root partition lives. That said, mine pretty much only runs an OpenVPN server, adblocking DNS server, and torrent client.
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>>54967628
Yeah, it definitely is a picture. I think its to scale, but that is 100% a photograph.
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>>54974521
>broadcom
>not being a piece of shit
pick one

This isn't just a problem on ARM boards, broadcom has been fucking shit up even windows laptops since forever. They are a plague that must be exterminated. Seriously fuck them, I know how you feel mang. Couldn't get the wifi to fucking work on my HP laptop with ubuntu and when I did make it finally work it kept crashing at random times. Had to go back to winblows out of sheer necessity.
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>>54974565
same issue... i fucking hate broadcom. and i even hear my macfag coworkers complaining that boohoo my mac's losing connectivity
>broadcom ac wifi inside their laptops
>retarded macfag texas instruments airport extreme router
and another one complains about his broadcom wifi shit apple having issues with atheros routers
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>>54974565
>>54974521
>>54974660
Expect it to get even shittier since Broadcom has now been acquired by Avago.
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>>54967553
>Opteron A1120
Eh, cool I gue
>Cortex-A57
>CORTEX
>ARM
WHAT IN THE FUCK IS HABBENING?

Imma get me a PCI-e splitter and run this bitch like a mad cunt.
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>>54969030
>x86
Why?
Muh games?
Muh Windows Server?
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>>54974751
>muh x86 software
I don't want to play angry birds on a server all day long, I want to get things done.
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>>54974751
please kill yourself :^)
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http://www.lenovator.com/product/103.html 299$ actually
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>>54967454
>QuadCore 1.7 GHz
I think my cell phone has one of those
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>>54974154
>>54974453

I just want the Gigabyte MB10-DS4 with the dual SFP+ port and have been waiting in vain since like January...
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>>54967891
>EXTRA LARGE FAN to keep Thermi and Thermi 2.0 cool
You can't make this shit up.
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>>54967454
>dual Gigabit Ethernet
Broadcom? Intel?
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>>54974751
>Why?
Because a lot of software doesn't work with ARM. pfSense is what I'd want to put on this and it only supports x86.
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>>54973956
>Opteron. literally the base line no frills line since the 90's
Uh, no. Opterons are the workstation/server line.
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>>54973888
Would be cool if they were actually retail and the BIOS was finished.
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>>54976860
>a lot of software doesn't work with ARM.
Virtually all FOSS works on ARM.
pfSense is an unfortunate exception.
Proprietary software does not count as it violates basic human rights.
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>>54967454
why is he holding a picture of a board?
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>>54976917
>Proprietary software does not count as it violates basic human rights.
Ignored.
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>>54976917
>Virtually all FOSS works on ARM.
Which mostly consists of shitty programs.

>pfSense is an unfortunate exception.
Extremely unfortunate, there are more "exceptions" like it.

>Proprietary software does not count as it violates basic human rights.
Well go fuck yourself, we need to get work done not tinker with broken software.

I'm a different anon btw.
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>>54976940
He's trying to tell us the idea is fucking shit and only sounds like a good idea on paper. I reality those 4 overheating 1.7 GHz A57 angry birds cores with a TDP of 35W cores gets shit on by 4 2GHz x86 kabini cores found on the 25W Athlon 5350.
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>>54973894
>>54973932
>>54974248
>>54974789
>>54976987
Here's your (You) you can stop now.
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>>54976953
>we
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>>54977009
Suck my cock bitch.
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>>54977041
wewe
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>>54973906
>I love housefires
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>>54967454
>>54967679
>includes AMD's Security Processor backdoor botnet
Why can't companies release higher end hardware now days that doesn't come prebotneted and unable to be fixed?
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