>mfw I'm flashing the bios
Why are the stakes so high when you have to flash your bios?
Why haven't they made a fail safe way to flash the bios already?
If you've ever bricked a mobo you know the feel.
>tfw never updated my BIOS ever
>tfw 10 year old PC
Most motherboards I've seen lately have 2 bios chips, if one doesn't work it boots from the good one.
>tfw not using an arduino to flash your bios
https://sinetek.wordpress.com/2011/05/27/unbricking-the-msi-890fxa-gd70-after-bios-flashing-failure-with-an-arduino/
>>54960349
Yes this has been a thing for almost two decades.
This is a case of if it ain't broke don't fix it. If you have something on your board that doesn't work properly and the update fixes that great. Otherwise I think it's unnecessary
>>54960315
I had to update the BIOS on my machine because it was causing weird shit whenever I booted. Sometimes the anti-surge protector would kick in whenever I booted, or just get stuck on the manufacturer logo on boot.
Thought there was something ronk with my mobo, and I decided to download the manufacturer's new BIOS image and booted into FreeDOS. Flashed that shit, and bootup has been perfect ever since.
I don't think I'll ever do it again though. Too risky, and it works fine.
>Buy some intel motherboard
>Been working good for a while
>Try hackintosh
>"Shit, this works ok, I could probably just use this"
>"Hey anon, there's this ozmosis thing, it might work for you"
>After a few attempts, succeed with flashing a modded bios
>"Oh shit it's booting, I didn't kill it!"
>Let's restart
>Wait a minute, what's with all these duplicated entries?
>Wait hold on now it's not booting anything
>Wait wait I can't even access the bios flashing tool for when shit gets bricked
>Oh god what have I done
>Oh god
>>54960401
Sure on high end desktop motherboards. It's rarely seen on laptops.
>>54960536
In my case it did fix it but shit is it scary. I bricked my laptop when I had to flash the bios so I could use an Intel WiFi card.
>his computer still has a BIOS
>>54961377
What are you on about?
>>54960617
This is the worst. The exact moment you know you fucked up.
>>54961307
Doesn't every gigabyte motherboard have this?
>>54961836
UEFI
>>54961982
Yeah. To see it work after being flashed, to boot into hackintosh fine acting all proud and then it slowly dies in agony. Curse that day.
>>54961990
Most, but not every single one. If you go really cheap it might not have it.
>>54960290
they should add a read-only bios as backup and add a hardware switch for it on the motherboard or something.
>Z87 motherboard
>Buy 4690K i5 4440 was falling behind
>There are new bios that improve OC
>Immediately after I start flashing the bios thunderstorm starts out of nowhere
>bios flashing takes like 1 minutes
>5 minutes later theres a power blackout that last for 30 minutes.
That was close.
>>54960290
desu senpai
There's no reason to update your BIOS unless you're actually trying to fix something. If it's not broken, don't fix it.
>>54962035
I have a 40$ gigabyte H110 and it has dual bios.
>>54962096
Yeah. I think there's some H81 which doesn't I believe.
Don't you just pull out this thing if you fuck up and it resets all the settings to default?
>>54962290
Works in some cases but if you flashed the wrong bios that's not going to help.
The thing is, nowadays many motherboards have protection measures against flashing unsigned or unverified bios files, so if you were to tamper a bit with a bios file, you would need an old version of AFUDOS to flash it.
>>54962052
Exactly. That way there is no way to fuck it up.
>>54962629
>The thing is, nowadays many motherboards have protection measures against flashing unsigned or unverified bios files
My board has a redundant BIOS built into the board
>always installed manufacturer updates with the manfacturer's tool and always with stable power
>be me, many years ago
>ethernet port is not working on new motherboard
>update the bios with no problems
>this fixes the issue
>later on read about how dangerous that can be
It was an expensive computer, too. Glad I didn't fuck up.
>>54961990
>UEFI
>mfw the manufacturer failed at UEFI and it gets bricked when you change a setting
Libreboot was fucking easy to compile and flash. It's freedom respecting too.
>>54962899
>>be me, many years ago
who are you now?
>>54960290
Modern (even the cheapest ones) motherboards can be easily fixed if the BIOS flashing is interrupted. You just have to plug your USB drive containing new image before you turn your pc on.
>>54962974
That is if it works. Fucking trashy h81-plus didn't let me. it's fucking deceased
>BIOS
>2016
How? Almost every mainboard is uefi
>>54962052
There's your business idea Anon. Make it happen and stop jerking off to soft core porn while eating fruity pebbles.
>>54962290
Leave dude.
>>54960550
>anti surge protector
Im scared anons. This is worse than anti ad blockers. How is this even legal?
>>54964949
got a hearty chuckle.
I almost set him straight, but decided it was pointless to try and started scrolling right as I put my mouse over your reply.
notalone.jpg
>>54962891
>stable
dont listen to him, just jerry rig 12 volts from AA batteries you bought at a fleamarket and update your bios using that.
>>54965207
Come to think of it, I think my mobo has an anti ad-blocking chip in it.
That explains why I've been ordering so many products from Amazon since I bought it.
You guys are all forgetting the point of this thread though.
It's not about having a backup BIOS chip. It's about having a seamless method to update a BIOS without any risks. Of course risks are always a factor, but currently as it stands updating a BIOS can just randomly brick a motherboard regardless of how you do it.
If you get 100 motherboards and split them into groups and update them all with a different method/variables at least 30 of them will brick. Updating BIOS is absolute hell for large companies and the like so most of them hold off (huge part of why many just stayed with WinXP all these years).
>>54965254
pleb
>tfw want to update my chinkpad T420 bios against the latest h4xx0r exploit
What are my odds of just fucking my shit up?
>>54964949
Uehuehueh - that's probably bait though.
>>54962969
Are we ever really the same person we were back then?
I just upgrade the BIOS through the Gigabyte application in Windows.
Never gone wrong once and I've done it three times.
>>54964949
>>54965346
>>54965232
I'm not memeing. What's wrong with that?
>>54967857
I just chuckled heartily.. dont jump my shit over it.
The problem is, the batter only saves settings. Flashing the bios is taking the bios chip, removing all data from it, putting in a new chip operating system, and then pray to got that it fucking works because there is no going back.
He said leave because you're a newfag and you should have known what a cmos battery was for long before you found this site, but the internet is broken and normies are flooding in.
>>54968416
no need to get so angsty my friend
>>54968454
Slash vee slash
>>54968454
I'm not your friend, guy!
>>54968454
Dude, I'm a ne'er do well 41 year old neet virgin who lives with my mom and even i know what cmos battery is. I can't program and i must learn how before i'm kicked out. But, on a lighter note, I'm at the very least a bit smarter than you are because I know what a cmos battery is whereas you didn't.
>>54965345
I'd say 3, maybe 4
>>54965308
Large companies should order mobos that are easy to flash. Decent consumer boards have a backup BIOS and removable chips.
