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This thread is about the appreciation of watches, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that is required to make a fine watch.

Required viewing for newbies:
http://youtu.be/508-rmdY4jQ

Strap guide:
http://pastebin.com/SwRysprE

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>>54956014
>1st for Casio
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way to let the general die without starting a new one fags


can anyone speak to the quality of "Borealis" watches? is it some fly by night brand or decent?


i'm interested in pic related: borealis sea hawk. it has a 4r36 so movement should be fine, can anyone speak to the quality of the brand or build quality?
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>>54956164
different pic to show double domed sapphire crystal; i don't know if the crystal jutting out that much is a good or bad thing
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>>54956069
And... the thread is ruined.
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Is using a proxy like From Japan a good way to buy watches from Yahoo auctions?
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>>54956254
At least I showed up 'on time' :^)
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So fucking good. Why won't Bulova remake these, I won't mind negative LCD even.
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>>54956391
Because nobody would buy it.
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>>54956411
i would. That's already one.
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>>54956329
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>>54956411
>>54956431
I would too. Much better than shitty Casio digi-digi.
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>>54956411
>>54956431
>>54956448
Also probably sparkly niggs like Will.I.Am and Kanye
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>>54956460
And your whore mom too.
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>>54956474
At least I have a mom and not two gay dads, you queer ass-baby.
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>>54956164
>>54956205
nice fake rolex bro
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I asked just before the finale catharsis of the last thread,
seiko couture
is is worth getting as a dress style watch?
specifically looking at the kinetic perpetual ones
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>>54956391
If you want that funky 70's LED stuff check out the G. Gerlach Kosmonauta.

>>54956710
You mean the Coutura line? All the ones I saw were pretty ugly but they are Seikos so it'll be fine.
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>>54956973
I like the blocky minimalism of the Kosmonauta but the message of polish pride escapes me. If it had sapphire glass, 200m WR and a battery that lasted more than 6 months, I would see myself buying and wearing one, autoironically of course.
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Not been here a while. Here's my DIY NASA strap with a few months of wear on it
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>>54957081

What's the other side like?
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>>54957059

According the their website it does have a sapphire crystal and the battery life is rated for 2 years but it's only 100m water resistant.
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>>54956973
Yeah, I like the look of this one
just wanted to make sure there wasnt any obscure reason I should avoid it
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>>54957146
So I might have a fancy paper holder after some diving.
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>>54957210
You often dive below 125m with cheap watches?
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>>54957096
Other side is barely visible when worn
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>>54956532
It's a fake Tudor, faggot.
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>>54956164
I think this one has a lumed bezel which is particularly neat. Isn't it massive though?
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>>54957503
yes

42mm wide, 15mm thick. i don't know if that's too huge or not
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>>54957503
>Isn't it massive though?

Depends on how much of a wristlet you are. it is kind of thick though.
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>>54956014
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>>54957255
>175 €
>cheap
I'm sorry your lordship, have you perhaps come here by accident?
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>>54957591
That's not so bad. thought it was over 45 because it takes after the DSSD
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>>54957620
In the grand scheme of things. €175 is damn cheap for a watch if you're to exclude Supermarket Quartz from the average.
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>>54957620
>€175
>not cheap for a watch
It's a lcd quartz, though.
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>>54957599
Fuark, that is thick
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>>54956164
I have a scout sniper, very nice watch for the price although it is on the big side. I do have some complaints about the bracelet but most of their other models seem to have better ones, especially the sea hawk.
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>>54957661
>>54957702
>In the grand scheme of things,
I dont have 175€ to burn on that kind of a watch
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>>54957854
I'm by no means saying that €175 is an insignificant amount of money. But to look at watches as a whole, €175 isn't much to spend.
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>>54957854
Your problem. That's the price of decent watches.
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>>54956329
Fucking hell anon...
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>>54957610
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>>54957831
how's the overall construction of the watch or anything

any other complaints other than the bracelet
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I decided to go with Rolex Datejust II for first luxury watch. Just can't decide on the color. Which one is best and most versatile?
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>>54958213
Black is a pretty common colour for watch dials, instantly readable vs the batons too. With the white and grey they just sort of hide there. I'd say black.
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>>54958213
I think the white dial looks the best and probably goes with the most clothes
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>>54958234
>>54958213
Meh, the light colors look better with the Datejust design. For me, at least. I think the gold/champagne dial is the best one with the silver one coming second.
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>>54958213
So are you choosing from the three in your photo famalam? They are all pretty versatile, guess it would come down to choice, go to a dealer and have a look at them irl

>why no glorious explorer or omega speedmaster
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Got it today.

Favourite module by far.

I wish it was solar and multi band 6
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what do we think about black bay 36mm?

imo it seems a little overpriced for ETA but tudor always does that and people say it's good value so idk
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>>54958313
It's a shame the Explorer has the
6, 9 ,12 they just look obnoxious as fuck.
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>>54958322
Nice watch you have there.
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>>54958213
>>54958234
>>54958252
>>54958313
>not gold
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>>54958327
Do all Tudor have ETA or do some models have rolex movements as well?
I like some Tudor designs but if they only got ETA it's a big no for me at that price.
>>54958331
Only the metal ones do, the old one looks great.
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>>54958331
I don't think it looks all that bad, adds to the aesthetic I think


I think it's on ar with the datejust for looks

Air Kings aren't bad either
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>>54958348
Never gold, unless you're that royal butler faggot on tv
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>>54957204
Is that the only one you like?
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>>54958376
>Do all Tudor have ETA or do some models have rolex movements as well?

Last year Tudor introduced their first ever in-house movement. It is not a Rolex movement, it's a completely new movement exclusive to Tudor. Before that they were all ETA and some of their models still today use ETA movements.
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>>54958108
If I had to complain about something it would be that they put white lume paint on the numerals and not on the giant white hands. The tritium makes up for it though. Construction wise it's very sturdy feeling, the case is pretty simple though.
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>>54956164
>>54956205
>a fake Tudor
You might as well kill yourself mate.
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>>54958462
Eh, I'll never get a Tudor, then.
Just fucking save on the materials and work, not on the movement, what's the point?
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old friend from navy gave me this for some reason. i think it looks nice
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>€320
Nice
>42mm
Fuck.
If only the Steinhart ocean one vintage red wasn't so big with huge lugs I'd buy it.

Any other option at that price?
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>>54958322
That watch is stealthy as fuck anon.
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>>54958917
Doesn't look to bad

>>54958975
The lume and the hands being the same colour is a little off putting for me
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>>54958917
>for some reason
He wants your boypuss, Nancy.
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>>54959135
You think I could sport it with a 16cm wrist? The Stein.
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>>54959224
don't do it, i have 16cm wrists and everything above 40mm looks horrible no exceptions
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>>54959161
;_;
>>54959135
im cleaning it with swabs and vinegar now
might be done by the end of the day
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>>54958975
Why not just mod a seiko instead of buying a "buyer's remorse: the brand"?
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>>54959356
Don't forget to clean your butt hole with vinegar too, after he rams it like a train, Nancy.
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>>54959271
Yeah, thought so.
Though, this one is 42mm, how does it look?
Don't mind the garbage watch.
>>54959413
I don't mod no watch. For €320 I couldn't get a remorse even if I wanted, escept for not being able to wear it, of course.
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>>54959224
Yeah. Honestly, people wear literal fuckhuge watches these days. You aren't going to look out of place with a 42mm watch, still below average by what is going around

>>54959356
Give the crystal a bit of a polish and it will look bretty gud
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>>54959465
pls no bully
>>54959552
yeah, will do
its a good watch, right? i dont know if it will fit on me though
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>>54959472
Whatever you say anon, just make sure you don't end up with a collection of entry-level junk like some average redditor.
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>>54959689
I need a watch to wear everyday. I don't even have a watch I can wear right now, I have a Seiko 5 that needs service and a new bracelet, 2 vintages (Zenith and Hamilton) that need servicing and that garbage which I refuse to wear and I'm trying to sell.

I want to buy a Seiko 5206/5216 LM and I'm trying to find a watch to buy to wear everyday.
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getting some really good vibes of the 35mm tangente

would it be a good watch for daily use? i am in college
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>>54959804
>would it be a good watch for daily use?
>no date
No.
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>>54959741
How you collect watches is none of my business, and if you say you need a watch then you need watch.

It's just that I honestly think that there is absolutely zero charm in the Steinhart brand. They're decent budget versions of famous watches, but why not just buy some chink shit if you like the design? Or mod the fuck out of a seiko, that way you at least showed some sign of creativity. Or at least go for a brand that actually does a homage design instead of the "as close as possible before hitting the trademark" school of design that steinhart uses?

It's a brand that gets pretty much zero respect, and for good reason. I honestly think it would only be a matter of time before you regret the purchase, even it it's only 320€.
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Is there anything in between the 6R15 Seiko and the Grand Seiko?
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>>54960041
>why not just buy some chink shit if you like the design? Or mod the fuck out of a seiko, that way you at least showed some sign of creativity
What? Because the Steinhart has a decent movement, it's a certified diver and has decent materials for a cheap price?
>creativity
I'm not gay.
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I'm interested in buying an actual decent watch after perusing these threads, what's the largest I can go with 7 inch wrists without the watch looking like it's too large?
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I will leave this here, ok?
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>>54960305
How much?
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>>54960281
42mm
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>>54960086
>I'm not gay.
No, but you sure are a jackass.
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>>54960086
I've built a 40mm double red sea dweller styled watch and have had it and enjoyed it for over a year while I regret buying an orient ray every time I look at it. Get what you want
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>>54960351
http://www.instrmnt.co.uk/watch/
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>>54960378
What I want doesn't exist. Nothing is up to my standards and I wouldn't have the moeny to buy it anyway.
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>>54960356
Shit.

A lot of the ones I've been lusting over are 44mm.
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Got this for $20

Ok or not?
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>>54960450
nice find
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How the fuck does a mechanical alarm watch work? Where does the sound come from?
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>>54960467
https://youtu.be/Lpb0TaVrFFk?t=78
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>>54960398
>250€ watch
>Ronda 585 3H
>15-20€ depending on where you get it
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In a year and a bit i am turning 30 and my wife is going to buy me any watch i want. She has already saved up a chunk of cash with the intent to buy me a rolex submariner which i have always fancied. Since it recently came up i have been thinking about it and decided i want to explorer niche or specialist options. I like the vacheron constantin style. However, i would also love to find the smaller specialist watch companies or hobbyist. I also wouldnt mind spending less on a watch since its ridiculously expensive when you think about it (so i try not too).

Before i go balls deep into all kind of fora i was hoping you guys could help me out a bit?
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Is the LLD a good watch or another "not allowed to be better than an Omega in any way" neutered Swatch garbage?
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>>54961067
>Inner rotating bezel
As an Orient Marshall owner, I can safely say that's it's annoying as shit having such a free moving bezel. Would much rather if it were 120-point inner rotating. Would no doubt be possible with a heavy lug system?, Or hell, could even live with it if the crown used to rotate the bezel had to extend first.
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>>54961067
If what I heard is true the LLD is one of the better parts of modern Longines entire lineup. I have no hands on experience with them though.
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>>54960416
Too big. 42 was pretty much the upper limit
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>>54960771
yea, good luck on that
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>>54961067
Fuck, that's nice.
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>>54960233
Both the monster and the turtle share the 4r36 movement so it will boil down to looks. The monster is larger in diameter and thickness (52 x 14 mm vs 45 x 13 mm). Subjectively, both appear to wear smaller than their actual size. The band size at the lugs is also different between the two. The monster is 20 mm due to a tapered bracelet vs 22 mm on the turtle. Keep that in mind if you have any aftermarket straps already from other watches. The only other issues of note that come to mind are that the monster can accumulate sand or dirt in the scallops of the dive bezel (this can be cleaned with a toothpick and water) and that some early turtles made it through Seiko QC with misaligned inner bezels. So try to order from someplace with a warranty. It will all come down to whether you want a watch with a classic design or something a bit more garish. Try both on and see which one you like better.
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If I went to Switzerland would I pay watches less? I mean in places where taxes aren't applied.
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>>54962342
There are places in the EU where you don't get assfucked by taxes?
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>>54962387
Yeah. Like Campione in Switzerland or San Marino in Italy, if I'm not wrong. The equivalent of VAT shouldn't be applied.
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>>54962438
>>54962387
Oh, there's Livigno as well.
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Something arrived for me, /wt/. And this time I ordered from the sneaky Jap who lies about customs value so I don't get fucked by Canada Post.

>>54960450
Very nice Penisquartz for the price, good find.
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Thoughts? best looking diver in the 1k price range in my opinion.
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>>54962680
What could it be...

>>54961067
Sometimes Longines is allowed to put out nice stuff. Sometimes.
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>>54962719
I have joined the 52 caliber meme
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>>54962707
Looks like shit, the Longines posted above looks a thousand times better.
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>>54962742
And you decided to beat the shit out of your new watch??

>No watch should be bought in that condition.
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>>54962707
>Calibre 5
>It's just a 2824
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>>54962707
>TAG
>best looking anything
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>>54962742
It's a little dirty and beat up, but $100 for 28800 bph, hacking, handwinding etc, I'm not complaining. I have a new crystal on the way from Y! Auctions so that should clean up the look considerably.

Also, this has to be the quietest mechanical movement I've ever seen. Barely audible when held to your ear. And really thin, too, definitely slimmer than anything I've seen with a 6R15. Remind me why Seiko can't give us something like this anymore?

>>54962707
Get a Seiko Shogun
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>>54962707
Check out the Oris Aquis
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>>54962793
That watch is probably about 40 years old, mate. I'd say it's in decent nick for its age. Faceted crystals are a bitch.
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What do you guys think about the Hamilton Jazzmaster Day Date and the Certina DS1 Day Date?
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Yo, /wt/
are analogue watches decent at keeping the time?
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>>54962938
The Hamilton.

>>54962954
You mean mechanical? What do you mean with decent? How much time are we talking about?
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How much should fixing a Grand Seiko from the 70's cost me?
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>>54956164
What's the point of buying this when you can get a high-quality Tudor rep for cheaper? The rep even has a better movement than the 4R36.
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>>54962982
No I mean Analogue, with microcontroller.
they are also called Quartz maybe?
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>>54963028
If a spring drive is extremely accurate I don't see how an analogue quartz couldn't be.
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>>54956391
There's a company that still makes these with a better module.
Go on the digital watch forum, it's in the modern digitals section.
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>>54963084
that is what I was thinking, but I though to ask if /wt/ knows something I don't.
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>>54962793
I could have bought a vintage 52xx in really good shape, but I was too cheap. I just wanted a blue dial, and I wanted in on the meme. Besides, I already paid good money to get other vintage Seikos in good shape.

>>54963028
A typical quartz watch should keep time within 15-30 seconds per month. Higher quality ones should do 5-10 seconds per month, and the very best (Seiko 9F quartz comes to mind) keep time to about 5-10 seconds per year.
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>>54958462
>year Tudor introduced their first ever in-house movement.
Oh yay. Time to pay 4x the price just to service the damn thing
You in-house movement faggots are fucking retarded
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>>54962742
>>54962856
>>54962914
>>54960450
You people didn't learned nuffin from lawyerfag?
If you're going to buy vintage, pour some more dollarus and get something mint.
>I'm saving for an inmaculated KS I found in a forum
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I'll keep asking until I get a response.

Is there a guide on how to buy watches from Yahoo Auctions?
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>>54963244
>I'm saving for a watch that will be sold tomorrow
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>>54960061

I know of the 8L35, they use it in some of the Marinemaster watches. From what I read it's basically the same movement as the Grand Seiko 9S55 only they don't finish and decorate the movement like the Grand Seiko version or put through the Grand Seiko adjustment and certification process.
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>>54963244
>Buys KS models for inflated prices from other Seiko autists
>Too lazy to do research and pick up a good one for close to nothing from the right sources

I'll bet this KS you're lusting after is a 45 or 56 caliber, too.

>>54963251
Fat Canadian helps those who help themselves
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>>54963355
>Fat Canadian helps those who help themselves
Yeah but who the fuck is fat canadian? There are too many canadians in this generals and they might all be fat for what I know.
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>>54961730

Where did you get those measurements from? the Monster is 43mm wide, 13mm thick, and 47.5mm lug to lug. While the Turtle is 44mm wide, 14mm thick, and 48mm lug to lug.
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I use NATO straps because I find them comfortable.

They also solve the problem of how metal straps scratch up my desk and laptop while I work.

And I sweat so much during the summer that any leather band would be ruined pretty quickly.

I understand NATOs on fine watches are ugly, but they are great for me.
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>>54963489
>scratch up my desk and laptop
What kind of desk do you have? Also laptops are consumable goods.
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>>54963501
Get out, you and your poor man's 007.
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Does anybody have the info graphs on good watches? Would you mind posting them.
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>>54963244
>saving for a KS
>saving
>for a KS

How poor are you? There's dozens of them in fantastic shape scattered across eBay and Yahoo Auctions in the $300 range. Just go for it.

>>54963489
I'm actually wondering if I should put the 7018 on a NATO, and what colour would look best. I think it would be good for the watch too, since it prevents the stainless steel caseback from coming into contact with my skin. I'm thinking either gray or something like a charcoal. I'm pretty sure this uses 18mm lugs so finding one shouldn't be as hard as the more oddball 19mm Seikos from this period.
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>>54963771
He's probably saving for that laughable purple redial that retard is trying to sell for $500
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>>54963663

I've been on two desks at work , one cheap the other expensive. Both got scratched.

If you slide the strap with enough pressure at the right angle, it can dig into the wood.

And I use a work assigned Mac laptop.

Nothing like metal on metal action.
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>>54963489
>NATOs on fine watches are ugly

Where the fuck is that photo of NineBall's Calatrava quote...
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>>54963771

I think a perlon/braided nylon strap would be better than a nato, as for color maybe a light gray or some kind of off-white.
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>>54963812
It's not even yours, who cares.
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>>54963009
Depends on which caliber and what exactly is wrong with it. If its a 56GS parts are available for those. Parts for the 61GS and the 45GS are much harder to find (if they can be found at all). I would avoid a non-running Grand Seiko at all costs.
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>>54956391
It is actually a nice design in that you do not have to twist your arm around all the way to read out the time. I wish more watch designers made more creative use of the sides without going completely into la-la-land.

>>54958213
>Rolex
Does any other watch scream nouveau riche more than Rolex? As for colour I would recommend one that works well for your eyes. I prefer light faces to provide good contrast in twilight and goes well with a suit and tie.

Could I choose I would prefer the discression of Patek Philippe with tritium but that would of course elicit questions like "Lordship is an original?" pronounced "village idiot". Heathens.
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>>54963431
Amazon. I should have noticed the dimensions of the of the monster seems off. They probably listed the measurements for the srp 637 (shrouded monster) instead of the srp 309.
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>>54963279
>>54963355
>>54963771
It's 560 USD. I'm poor, but want something like new in box.
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>>54962707
How about you get an actual diver?
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>>54964132
>digi-digi crap
no, thanks
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>>54960450
I am pretty sure this was on my watch list. Good job anon, I dun goofed.
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>>54964037

How much does that stupid pocket watch cost? Like 15 bucks ?
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>>54964311
I wish it was fifteen dollars. That would be a George Daniels Space Traveller's watch. It was appraised when it it went up for auction for something like 635,000~950,000 USD.
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>>54964311
>Things an unedicated nigger says
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>>54964311

http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2012/george-daniels-so-l12313/lot.9.lotnum.html

More like $1.9 million.
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>>54964417
*uneducated
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>>54964433
>irony is not a thing
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>>54964037
It's a shame how poorly the hands are ageing.

A knighthood to the man who takes up the task of servicing such a piece.
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>>54964037
So if I buy a Rolex and I'm poor it's ok?
Good to know.
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>tfw no nork beater
I swear I'll travel there one day and buy/trade all the shitty old Moranbongs I could find.
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>>54964037
Its like I'm reading the "Watch SnobÂź" in /wt/.
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>>54964311
Kek. Good troll, the faggot deserves it.
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>>54964716
Such a shitty bracelet, by god.
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>>54964736
Don't you ever dare to speak ill of something our glorious leader considered worthy, that's gotta be the most beautiful bracelet ever conceived.
To the gallows with this infidel!
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>>54960450

Not bad if you're sure it was not refurbished with a poo in loo movement.
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>>54964736
Can your sensitive fat bourgeois wrist only tolerate solid links, capitalist piggu-doggu? Moranbong bracelet meant for tough worker-peasant wrist of communist men.
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>>54964882
It's not even solid link vs folded. It's just that insane gap between links, it looks awful.
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>>54964132

Digits are too fucking tiny on the Frogman.

Almost half the other g-shock models are better dive watches
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>>54964528
>So if I buy a Rolex and I'm poor it's ok?
You are supposed to become stinking rich immediately before buying it.

>Good to know.
You are welcome.

>>54964681
>Its like I'm reading the "Watch SnobÂź" in /wt/.
Mwah.

Asking for tritium in an upmarket dress watch is hardly snobbish. And the popularity of famous faces for digital watches suggests many would like a stylish and elegant watch but will never afford one.

What will up the design conflicts already brewing is the next generation 3D printers that will create any watch face you want. Copies of "Lollex" and "Pathetic Phil" will explode for a while until we get back to what I am more interested in: a tidy, elegant design with great readability and the (few) functions that I need.

Perhaps the next thread can be dedicated to how we would like a watch to be, could we have whatever we wanted.
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>>54965018
>could we have whatever we wanted.
So an explorer without the integers?

Datejust just doesn't rock the look as well with that edgy bezel.
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>>54965018
But what if I'm poor and stay poor after I get a Rolex? Is that acceptable?
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>>54965191
>explorer without the integers
What?
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>>54965228
>THREE
>SIX
>NINE
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>>54965018
>need
I expected better of a snob. Luxury watches are all about what's superfluous. Sure, you do it with style and competence but it must still be vain, in the end. Otherwise it has no appeal.
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>>54964882
It's not even a matter of solid vs folded. Most of the old Seiko bracelets, and evensome of the Rolex ones, were folded but not shit. This is just shit.
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>>54965261
>still this shitty meme
It's perfect as it is. The one with the lume only indices, at least.
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>>54965338
It's a beautiful watch, one cannot deny. But personally, I feel the numbers just sort of damage the aesthetic of the watch.
It has all of these crisp, clean lines, bezel polished to a mirror finish, even the borders of the batons are mirror-like. But the numbers stick out too much, there's nothing to compliment them, they're obnoxious.
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>20.000€

why
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>>54965395
I think they compliment with the 12 o'clock index perfectly. It's a tool watch, it needs the hour numbers for immediate readability.
For me it's perfect as it is.
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>>54965395
I personally disagree. I think the numbers bring a necessary bit of extra character to the watch and keep it from looking too sterile and sedated.

>>54965432
That specific colorway is ugly as fuck but it's reasonably priced for the technology packed into it.
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>>54963022
Where?
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>>54965472

Japs like them biggu
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>>54965505

The regular frogman is overpriced as shit as it is, why the fuck is 20.000€ normal?

>TWENTY THOUSAND
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>>54965261
I don't like the Explorer but for tidiness, yes, I prefer no digits, just hour indicators.

>>54965285
>I expected better of a snob.
Since I am not a snob the rest don't parse. I have a need to see what time it is and I have a preference to see time clearly, hence my comments about tritium. This is a question of eye sight, not vanity on my part.
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>>54965432
Top kek, it reminds me of pic related.
I don't know how people can defend that obnoxious design that looks like a chinese child's toy.
>>54965519
>>54965472
Compensating much?
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>>54965018
>how we would like a watch to be, could we have whatever we wanted.
A speedsonic with the same case style as the mechanical speedy pros would be nice.
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>>54965560
So you need to see what time it is but you also don't like digits?

Yours must be a tough existence.
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>>54965586

My g-shock addiction started with the smaller 5600, and even though Im ok with my dick of all things I just cannot go back to small watches anymore.

I feel like a fag for some reason.
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>>54965626

There is no need for any digints on analog watches, as time is understood in a spatial way, not in numbers
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>>54965621
Now this is getting close to what I am looking for.

>>54965626
>tough existence
Woe is, like, me.

As long as the 12 o'clock is clearly indicated, like on some Omega watches, the rest of the hour indicators are quickly read. Can this be so hard to understand?
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>>54965540

My mistake I misread that as Yen instead of Euro at first. It turns out it's an old super limited edition that was a collaboration with a world famous artist so it was bound to rise in value but that is just crazy.
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>>54963022
link?
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>>54964681
>>54965018
My comparison was not rooted in the argument but the presentation and tone of it. You do raise a good point though. Its why I prefer vintages. Watches were usually purpose-built before The Quartz Crisis. Now more effort is spent in branding rather than the engineering and design behind watches. This is apparent with the proliferation of "fashion" brands.

As for what I want a watch to be. I prefer old fashion mechanical timekeeping purely for aesthetic reasons. I like a sweeping second hand. If somehow Citizen could somehow combine the smooth sweep of its precisionist movements with the solar charging of its eco drives and most importantly place it in a watch that did not look like complete ass I would be a happy man.

The flightmaster 910 is probably my favorite omega design. It would be what I would buy if I found myself in need of a chronograph. If I had a chance to buy a relatively unmolested example in person I would surely snap it up.
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>>54965928

Not an argument.
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>>54961002
How about you get a JLC and be happy for the rest of your life.
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>>54961002

G-shock
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>>54964853
I buy this from reputable vintage seller in my country
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thoughts on poor mans moon watch? ($300)
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>>54966575

G-Shock much better
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>>54965651
If you have the time to fully rotate you wrist and check the hands you don't have any need to see what time it is.

In the end you're just a poser.
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>>54966694

Not sure I understand.

You have to turn your hand to see digits too.

I understand the hand positions better than numbers, I calculate time visually in terms of space in.

If I see digits I have to rationalize the numbers and make a mental analog watch in my head
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>>54966694

Not an argument
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>>54966575
Fuck you.
You've made me go to their site, and look at their other shit.
Now I've got a hardon for the Infantry.
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Thoughts on Praetorian?

I really need to know if they're a scam because I really love pretty much everything of picrelated.


http://praetorianwatches.com/
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>>54966991
By god that is a busy watch. And not in a good way. They could have cut the crown down that extra mm so it was flush with the lugs.
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>>54967031

I agree, and I dont like the letters or the red scorpion, but other than that It has everything I'm looking for, including different colors for the tritium.

The website looks shady as fuck though.
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>>54966991
>Indexes all around the bezel, not just 1/4 or 1/3
>Sub second indexes on dial
>Fat hands
>Overextended crown
>Batons, 12 hour, AND 24 hour times, seriously, it's 2/3 at best otherwise it looks like ass.

I do like the second hand though, and the threading on the crown.
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>>54967056
Tritium tubes usually glow green because your eyes are most sensitive to those wavelengths, the blue is going to be hard as fuck to see. Check out the Borealis scout sniper for a similar look though.
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>>54966991
>Citizen/Miyota 8215 Automatic Movement
>398 eur

I will admit the tritium is nice and all but I would want to get something a little better in the movement department for that price point.
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>>54967081

Love the Borealis.

Is ist tough? Can it compare with a G-Shock?

I dont hammer my watches but I need a watch that can stand sand / salt water / mud etc...
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>>54967142
Well of course it's no g-shock in the impact resistance category but mine hasn't had any issues, there's a lot of steel there. I have some small issues with the bracelet, namely the polished links and the stamped clasp.
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why the fuck did they stop making club dunkel in 36mm
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>>54967179

Does it withstand cold?

I need like -20ÂșC give or take resistance to cold.
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>>54966991
Just get a Marathon.
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>>54967246
Handled the Wisconsin winter like a champ.
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>>54962938
>>54962982
Aren't these ridiculously overpriced for what they are?
Don't get me wrong, I love how they look, but I've always been hesitant to get one.

I've been searching for months now to get a early 60s or older non-Frabken with no luck.
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>>54967246
Even if the air temperature is that cold the watch movement wont get that cold because your body is warm. It may run a little bit fast as it cools down.

And we've worn watches in a lot colder than -20 Celsius, that's only like 0 Fahrenheit. That being said, if you straight up leave your watch in -30c or lower, and you don't have extra special Sinn watch oils, and it's not on your body to get heat from, the oils may become significantly more viscus and slow the watch noticeably. But, if you're not wearing it, then I suppose it doesn't matter much.
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