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>Headphone purchase advice
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM
Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
Wireless is frowned upon.
Headset requests are frowned upon.
Noise isolation ≠ Noise cancellation
If you dislike a headphone suggestion, try giving a better suggestion to whomever asked instead of going "hurr, brand x sucks"
>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones
Last Thread: >>54917937
JBL J88i, Sennheiser HD 202ii or Philips Citiscape Downtown?
IEMs > Headphones
Fight me
>>54955332
>-- PLEASE USE THIS FORM TO GET PURCHASE ADVICE --
>>54955336
>http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM
Did you not read the form?
>>54955336
For portable and public use, sure.
>>54955345
But I just want to know each one is the best. I'm not going to buy it.
>>54955386
wich*
>>54955402
*which
>>54955386
>But I just want to know each one is the best.
Why are you asking if you aren't going to-
Nevermind.
>Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
>>54955425
Witch*
>>54955427
It's not "x". It's a comparison between x, y and z.
>>54955386
they're all shit
>>54955438
>>54955433
Thank you.
>>54955445
Witch one is the less shittier?
>>54955332
I like my urbanears.
JBL always dull
Philips always too squeaky clean.
I like my cucked out swedish hipstershit headphones.
>>54955485
Oh, I forgot the Sennheisers. Right. So you wanna be a wannabe DJ?
I thoroughly enjoy my overpriced cucked out hipstershit faggotass mediocre swedish headphones.
>Budget
$80
>Location
Earth.
>Source
Notebook.
>Preferred type of headphone
Full.
>Open or closed
Open.
>Comfort level
None.
>Preferred tonal balance
>Preferred music
Dark Ambient, Techno, Industrial, Black Metal.
>Past headphones
Superlux HD681
>>54955466
>Witch one is the less shittier
>Witch one
>Witch
2spooky4me
>>54955336
For everything else than comfort I agree.
>>54955604
And price-performance ratio.
>>54955446
Stop posting these 9gag level facepalm/fail -reaction images already. You do it in every thread after an idiotic argument(read: in a case where you call other anon a retard and/or enforce some unwritten thread rules).
>>54955616
I meant that I prefer good in-ears to headphones in every other aspect than comfort where(some) headphones are much more comfy. In terms of price to performance in-ears are unmatched.
>>54955650
>Stop posting these 9gag level facepalm/fail -reaction images already.
>>54955650
>In terms of price to performance in-ears are unmatched.
>>54955586
Which*
>>54955672
>>54955686
even worst pepes are better than this shit
>>54955686
id agree with that
>>54955755
>id agree with that
No wonder, samefag.
>>54955686
Sounds about right, not sure why you're meme texting tho
>>54955769
>Sounds about right
Let's get this shit straight. You are saying that a $100 set of IEMs sound better than $100 headphones, open or closed?
>>54955778
That's exactly what I'm saying, I'm not sure why you find this so hard to believe.
>>54955778
IEMs are inherently superior to headphones.
>>54955793
>I'm not sure why you find this so hard to believe.
Tiny little 10mm drivers sound better than 40 or 50mm drivers? That doesn't seem a ludicrous claim to make?
>>54955778
Always depends on the model.
For example, I would take a HF5 over something like the M40x or 558. It's still an apples to oranges comparison and completely subjective.
>>54955686
Yes indeed, imo. A lot of the cheapest IEMs only suffer from abundance of bass which is easily fixed with EQ. Their distortion and bandwidth is usually excellent and in the best case the response is fairly smooth, too. I don't think there are many if any headphones which can compete with best Etys.
>>54955841
Driver size is a completely irrelevant thing to focus on.
>>54955841
>bigger driver is better
>>54955843
>I would take a HF5 over something like the M40x or 558
That's not the assertion made. The assertion made is that something like the SE215 sounds better than the HM5 or 558.
>>54955873
>Driver size is a completely irrelevant thing to focus on.
Driver size does not affect SPL or SQ?
>>54955886
It certainly provides for more engineering and quality component choice.
I'm stunned there are idiots this seriously retarded.
>>54955841
I'm basing my claims off of the numerous IEM's and headphones I've auditioned and owned. Under $150-$200, IEMs just smokes headphones in fidelity, imaging, and instrument separation. Above that... Well then I'd say it becomes preference really.
>>54955892
>Under $150-$200, IEMs just smokes headphones in fidelity, imaging, and instrument separation.
List your models and experience. I'm all but certain it is going to be very different from my own experience amped or unamped. The only benefit IEMs have over headphones of equal price is sensitivity.
>instrument separation
Because IEMs in that price range are not limited to headspace and can have a similar sound stage to open headphones in that price range?
Nevermind answering the above. I'm sure your talking complete shit now.
>>54955904
>instrument separation is the same as soundstage
Yeah, you're a fucking idiot, literally no point in arguing with you.
>>54955938
>I have magic ears! I can hear separation in instruments when they are congested together in a tiny headstage!
just got my q701. first impressions:
upper mids into highs not ear-rape or fatiguing, but definitely "cold" sounding. mids are not as deliciously smooth as my 598, but overall it sounds more clear. bass is better; better extended and has a bit more impact. not bassy but these are far from nobass. soundstage is crazy wide. I can see what people said about unnatural soundstage but it's not a bad thing imo, it gives a very outside the head feeling, even more than the 598 which was already damn spacious.
comfort is ok, even with the bumps, though I am going to pad the band some. pads are a bit stiff but the stretchiness of the elastic and the light weight help a lot. a bit hard to drive, even more than my mad dogs.
responds better to eq than the 598 in terms of adding bass. people talk about AKG like it's all upper mids, and it does have that cold character, but it's also a great all-rounder, no serious problems here.
compared to 598 because its the closest I have.
hd600 next I think.
>>54956005
Why the old Q701 and not the K702?
>>54955891
>Driver size does not affect SPL or SQ?
It certainly does but not in a manner that could be derived from the mere size of the driver. Driver size and type are means to an end.
>I'm stunned there are idiots this seriously retarded.
Great going man.
>>54955778
not in every case but IEMs destroy at lower price points. you do hit diminishing returns earlier, and personally I don't see a point to buying expensive IEMs because they will always have an inside the head sound, but there are IEMs <$20 which sound comparable to $100+ headphones.
>>54956023
>It certainly does but not in a manner that could be derived from the mere size of the driver
Then the previous assertion is refuted.
>Driver size is a completely irrelevant thing to focus on
I wonder if there is a reason why the big three are have large drivers. Hmmm. . .
>>54956032
>not in every case but IEMs destroy at lower price points
I have to disagree with you there. Monoprices and Kossessound far better than the Piston 3s and the like. Low end IEMs tend to unbalanced shit and the rare decent ones still cannot match.
Would you guys recommend MDR-7506s for travel (phone) and laptop use ?
>Budget
My budget is 50-200
>Previous Set
Senheiser Game One (i know gaymer shit)
>>54955534
Tell me.
>>54956064
Any particular reason you want fullsized for travel instead of IEMs?
>>54956041
Because they don't go in your ears you imbecile.
>>54955534
Normally for that price in open cans the suggestion is the SHP9500 but they don't have much impact which you will want for your preferred music.
>>54956077
No reason, i just heard its the best you can do in that range ; what you get for your $
>>54956091
>Because they don't go in your ears you imbecile.
It seems you missed the point. Let's try another.
I wonder why there aren't any IEMs that are compared to the big 3. Hmm. . .
>>54956077
also >>54956114
i hate in-ear headphones, they are very uncomfortable after 1hr of use
>>54956117
The big 3 are dated. IEMs aren't compared to headphones for the same reason headphones aren't compared to loudspeakers.
IEMs, again, are inherently superior to headphones.
>>54956041
>Then the previous assertion is refuted.
No. The point is that you can't deduct anything about the headphone performance from the driver size.
>I wonder if there is a reason why the big three are have large drivers. Hmmm. . .
Except they don't? Sennheiser drivers are rather small. Unless your definition of large is something else or if you are comparing the drivers of circumaural headphones to in-ears.
I can think plenty of headphones with way larger drivers and much worse performance than "big three". It's not a trait of quality and not something you should focus on. End result is all that matters.
It's quite evident that even the tiny in-ear drivers can reproduce a very high SPL with minimal distortion(lower than larger headphone drivers in many cases), excellent bandwidth and fairly linear response.
>>54956114
For mobile/portable use an IEM is generally a better choice. More compact, lighter, easier to use in compact circumstances (bus seat, airplane, etc.)
Check out the RHA MA750.
>>54956138
>The big 3 are dated.
>>54956117
>I wonder why there aren't any IEMs that are compared to the big 3. Hmm. . .
Why would anyone make this comparison? What would be the purpose of it? You have no point.
I use powebeats wireless bluetooth earphones. No real complaints.
>>54956157
>hurdur I know nothing about headphones at all
Why do you even post here?
>>54956021
because the differences seem minimal, plus I heard a lot of good stuff about the bassport mod which is mostly on the q701, and because I got them for $100. impulse buy.
actually looking at tylls measurements now the k702 seems to have much less bass roll off, but it does it by having a huge arch through the bass and mids. in my experience I don't like that kind of response and the k/q701 seems more even. the 701, 712, and 65th annie look the best to me, 702 and k7xx look the worst.
>Budget
200-250
>Location
Australia
>Source
Nexus 6p, Laptop (Dell)
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-ears
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
I don't care (as long as its not fabric)
>Preferred music
Blues, Jazz
>Past Headphones
Doesn't matter, i hated all of them
Senheiser Game One(shitty material)
Some IEMs (All IEMs start to irritate my ears so im not looking for them)
>>54956139
>The point is that you can't deduct anything about the headphone performance from the driver size.
I have to disagree with you there if only because of the breadth and wealth of choice in comparative quality. Every great sounding, great selling headphone use large drivers be they dynamic, planar, or electrostat.
>>54956159
>Why would anyone make this comparison?
That's a retarded question. Why does anyone compare one headphone to another? To make sure they aren't being suckered into buying snake oil? To not spend more for what you are getting when there are better alternatives? If you could get the sound quality of an HD600 in an IEM for the same price most people would buy the IEMs over the HD600.
>>54956103
What is the headphone I am looking foward to in order to serve my purposes soundlike?
>>54956197
You make a demonstrably retarded statement about the big three and you think other people know nothing about headphones?
There are no words to describe how ironic your post is.
>>54956062
>Monoprices
like the 8323? those were one of my first buys and I ended up hating them. piston 3 is waaay better imo. not only in sound but build quality by far. if there is a value headphone that threatens IEMs it's the th-02. but like the monoprice it needs comfort mods. ksc75 would be another. but when you can get a good sounding hje-120k for $7 it's hard to argue headphones offer better value. it's just impossible to have a decent over-ear build at that kind of price.
>>54956201
MSR7
>>54956206
>Every great sounding, great selling headphone use large drivers be they dynamic, planar, or electrostat.
I see no correlation with this.
>>54956227
You keep trying to sound like you know what you're talking about while you have 3 people responding to your inability to understand basic concepts.
>>54956239
>like the 8323?
Sorry. Meant Superlux.
>>54956242
Then you are blind or cherry-picking.
>>54956245
Argumentum ad populum. This is especially poignant during summertime.
>>54956252
>projecting how new you are
How adorable.
>>54956213
Not him and I'm certainly not an expert, but I hear closed headphones have a much bigger impact than open headphones at lower price ranges.
Open headphones tend to be airy and natural with the sound coming from around you, whereas closed headphones tend to have the whole "jackhammer of sound being drilled directly into the center of your skull" effect
open headphones would be better for classical, country, prog rock, and pop, and closed headphones would likely be better for high impact high bass techno, industrial, and the like
>>54956270
Aw. Poor baby got caught presenting poor logic and resorts to personal insults.
Especially retarded personal insults. How am I "projecting" an argument of popular opinion when YOU are the only one who presented such an argument? You might want to look up what a buzzword means before you start bantering it about.
Would you like some more rope?
>>54956064
no. the cable is very long, bulky, and the terminating male end is large and will probably conflict with a phone case. I love the v6 but it's not very portable, also poor isolation. m40x is similar and can take a short cable. CAL is only 50 and sounds amazing, and it's lightweight and portable with a short cable, but the build quality is not the best. doesn't fold but you can do a mod so the cups lie flat.
>>54956288
>autist needs to have his 'final word' to 'win' the 'internet argument'
>>54956311
So if I prove you wrong and leave you with the last post does that mean I lose?
Why do idiots try to use this ploy when they don't understand its meaning?
>>54956297
What about MSR7 ?
Im this guy >>54956201
>>54956325
>still needs to reply
You just continue to expose yourself as new. I'm embarrassed for you. Chances are you'll reply to this as well, knowing how severely autistic you are.
So when are diminishing returns for
>IEMs
>Closed headphones
>Open headphones
>Bookshelves
>>54956325
>Why do idiots try to use this ploy when they don't understand its meaning?
Because he suffered humiliation by it and project their personal failings on others and expect them to feel just as humiliated when he uses it.
>>54956247
owned the 668b, 661 and evo. all great for what they are. but again, comfort and minor build problems, and they're not as even or refined as the piston 3 imo, though being big and open they win out in soudstage and that open sound. never had the 681 but I know like the 668b it has a treble spike that needs serious taming. detail is as good or better on the 668b, evo is good for a fart cannon but that's what it is, like the piston 2 or hybrid. but just think about it. 668b is like 40-50. 681 I have seen as low as 30. piston 3 is like $16.
I don't think IEMs are better though, they have a confined sound that will always be there, which is why I don't use them at my desk, only for portable use really.
>>54956358
>comfort and minor build problems
Not relevant to an assertion based upon sound quality. See>>54955778
> You are saying that a $100 set of IEMs sound better than $100 headphones, open or closed?
>>54956369
$59 MK5s are more accurate than any headphone will ever likely be.
>>54956213
you want more bass? 668b, evo if you want crazy bass. but there are very few bassy or even outright warm open headphones. you would probably love the l2 or x2 but they're way out of your range. you could stretch to the 558, do the sticker mod and boost the bass, but it wont give you that driving bass sound. I would go closed at that price if I were you.
>>54956342
You are basically asking for opinions but the point of highly diminshing returns for me would be:
60e for in-ears - Etymotic MK5
100e for closed headphones - Sony MDR-7506
100e for open headphones - Sennheiser HD 558
300e for a pair of active loudspeakers - JBL LSR305
You can get better for more but you'll have to pay a lot more in some cases where value, although very subjective, goes down. There's also a point of no/negative returns in a lot of audio products where you get worse performance for more money. A lot of audio products don't really scale well in terms of pricing and expecting to get a better product by paying more is unwise. My list of diminishing returns is based on those specific models and how well they given their competition.
>>54956409
>how well they perform
>>54956383
>>54956328
at that price point there are basically 2 really good options for closed and you should choose based on your sig pref:
msr7: a bit on the bright side of neutral, and cold sounding, but very even across the board.
hp50: less neutral but not by a lot, on the warm side. not very bassy but easy listening. one of the most balanced warm headphones.
I think either would good for your music, but where would you like a bit of emphasis on your instruments, on the lower end or towards the higher end? just my opinion but for jazz it really depends, with blues warm is better.
>>54956475
Do you think mdr-7506s are fine ? Im thinking of getting a shorter cable and an amp for them
Can anyone who has tried both of the Beyerdynamic DT 990 250 Ohm and 600 Ohm tell me if the sound quality difference is worth an amp investment? I have a mild amp on my soundcard, but it's only rated to 330 Ohm
>>54956445
Feel free to prove me wrong, headphones can't do treble or subbass.
I challenge you to find a single headphone on the market more accurate than the MK5.
>>54956369
not that guy. personally I think IEMs hit diminishing returns hard after like $70. IEMs dominate the lower price points, especially since in the last few years you can get cheap suff that competes were the $100 stuff was previously. really expensive IEMs and CIEMs are a waste and many are scams imo, but it depends on your use. if you're really in situations where you can't or don't want to use headphones I can see some of the proven expensive IEMs being worth it. but not, IEMs are not 100% a better value every time at every price point, no single sound reproduction device is.
>>54956558
>IEMs are not 100% a better value every time at every price point, no single sound reproduction device is.
How are they not? $60 IEMs beat any headphone on the market and they're not the best IEMs out there.
>>54956486
all around? yeah I think they're one of the best headphones period (after eq and new pads). but for portable I would not recommend them unless you're going to do a cable mod and get auray leather pads. if you want a portable that is less than the hp50 or msr7 get the k553.
>>54956486
they don't need an amp btw
>>54956583
because they often have poor comfort, and they will always have a confined inside the head sound that is less natural than headphones or speakers because they don't interact with your entire ear. and frankly it sounds like you're speaking as an ety evangelist who think they're great because they measure well a lot of the time and you're ignoring the serious flaws they have, like upper mids emphasis, generally bright sound, lacking bass. ety's are not neutral and the sig and comfort are the opposite of what many people like.
>>54956648
>and they will always have a confined inside the head sound that is less natural than headphones or speakers because they don't interact with your entire ear
This is a flaw of headphones as well. If you want a natural sound you go with loudspeakers. Headphones are NOT the middleground, they are simply the compromise that do bad in both accurate response and soundstage.
>>54956529
HEX
>>54956664
oh god now we got the speakerfag. why are you all such zealots in your perceived superiority? I own speakers too, they have their drawbacks like everything else.
>>54956671
Good joke, everything beyond 1KHz on the HEX is wonky and nonlinear. Funny that you have to resort to headphones of that price to even try to compare to $60 in-ears.
>>54956694
Your reading comprehension is horrid.
>Budget
Range: €250 - 350
>Location
Netherlands
>Source
Mostly smartphone and laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
Used in public. So OVER-EARS with good noise isolation. Maybe with an active noise cancellation option but that's not a must.
>Open or closed
Since I'll predominantly use them in public obviously CLOSED.
>Comfort level
Least important factor for me
>Preferred tonal balance
Highs and lows
>Preferred music
Jangle pop, Synth, Rap, Alternative Country/Rock. I listen to most genres, but I hate most music genres ending with the -core suffix.
>Past headphones.
Parrot Zik v1, Bowers & Wilkins P5
> Other things I want.
Stuff that doesn't break easily. Most of my headphones tend to die due to breaking wires.
Looks: Less plastic is preferred and no obnoxious branding.
>bigger drivers provide no advantage
>iems are superior to headphones
Is this what /hpg/ has become?
>>54956695
still more accurate than MK5
>>54957165
Except that's wrong.
>>54956996
epic meme face my fellow /b/ro
>>54957245
what compensation curve are you using?
I need an audio interface to both power my 470Ω R70xs and serve as a studio monitor output...
A 2i2 won't do, right? What should I get?
>>54957349
Stop thinking that more ohms = harder to drive.
>>54957349
they're easier to drive than HD 600. you might not even need an amp.
>>54957491
Thanks! I noticed that my MacBook output handles them quite well.
So you're saying they'll probably do just fine on the 2i2 headphone output?
>>54957580
yeah, sure
>>54956996
Bigger driver indeed has no direct correlation with sound quality. In some cases they do provide an advantage, in some cases the opposite. Same applies to the driver type or amount of them used.
IEMs to headphones is a personal preference thing and I like in ears more. The accuracy you get with them is amazing.
>Budget
$30-$100, Flexible
>Location
US
>Source
Desktop, Laptop, Keyboard (Yamaha YPG235)
>Preferred type
Full
>Open or Closed?
Open
>Comfort
Fairly comfortable; I use my old Superlux really often and I don't think I could handle anything considerably less comfortable.
>Preferred tonal balance
Bassy
>Preferred music
Punk rock, Prog, Jazz
>Past headphones
Superlux HD 681
Help I can't decide between an ODAC+O2, schiit combo, JDS element or aune x1s
>Budget
Would like to spend $100 or less, but will go to a maximum of $150 if the headphones are perfect for me
>Location
I will be in Canada, but will have access to the US if needed
In Canadian dollars, my budget is around $150 hard limit
>Source
Mostly my Nexus 6 when I am out, and for home use, a Fiio K1 going into my 13” rMBP
>Preferred type of headphone
I would like something portable, though I have owned IEMs and sort of want to get something else. I would like on-ears or over-ears, as long as they aren’t some massive crazy thing that I can’t take with me places (train, classes, etc)
>Open or closed
Closed, as stated, would use them while studying in a library or traveling around, though if sound leakage isn’t bad, I don’t really mind
>Comfort level
Very comfortable, I should be able to wear them for hours at a time, but sound quality is very important, as long as it isn’t like I am wearing two sheets of sandpaper on my ears
>Preferred tonal balance
Not sure
>Preferred music
Folk, post-rock, indie rock, alt rock, post-hardcore, some classical on occasion, lots of /mu/core
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNfKOtlNuWE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yEgcb167k4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQemWPF0P9Q
>Past headphones
Shitty Apple ones, awful UrbanEars, mildly adequate RHA MA350s (the stupid braided fabric cable is doing the thing where it loops, so I can’t bring it anywhere, because it is pretty fucked; otherwise their tonal balance was very nice)
>>54958438
They all do a similar job, just get the o2 amp and a cheaper separate usb dac if you want to save money, if you don't give a shit get the combo so it's all in one nice tidybox.
>pic related
>>54960064
V-Moda M80:
>Bassy
>On-ear
>Very portable, comes with carrying case
>Detachable cable, V-Moda cables are cheap and very durable, can also accept other brands of cables
>built like a tank
>not comfortable, mine hurts my ears after two hours
MDR 7506/V6:
>more or less neutral, pending to Bright
>over ear
>ok portability (it can fold and comes with a carrying bag, but the coiled cable can be a problem if you plan on walking with it)
>no detachable cable
>built like a tank
>comfort and isolation can be increases with Auray Sheep Skin Pads.
M40X:
>more or less neutral
>less portable than the M80 and more portable than the V6 (straight cable)
>cable is detachable but proprietary, only Audio Technica's cable will work
>Build quality inferior to both M80 and V6, but not bad overall
>Not sure if Auray pads fit it, but i believe they do.
>>54957349
Yamaha steinberg UR22mkii
>>54960397
Every time that black engraved O2 impresses me, looks so cool!
>>54958438
Schiit or the O2
>>54956529
>Feel free to prove me wrong
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof
>>54960518
Wow, thanks!
So I have a few questions about that.
One, you mentioned the M80's are bassy. Is that good bassy (like just warm and punchy) or is that muddy and overpower-level bassy?
I've also seen that it's more expensive then the other headphones. Is that just because its discontinued?
The MDR's look really nice, but is the cable really that much of a problem, because that would suck, I really like the look of these.
The one I really like the most are the M40x's, but people always say that Audio-Technicas are meme headphones and that they actually suck. Is this true?
>>54958188
HD558
>>54960064
DT770
>>54960904
Which impedance, because only the 32ohm model is in my price range.
>>54961012
http://www.amazon.com/Beyerdynamic-DT-770-M-80-Headphone-Monitoring-Isolation/dp/B000F4KWQI
will the fostex hp-a3 push DT770 (250 ohm) to listenable levels?
does the hp-a3 have any audible usb buzzing?
>>54960865
Good bassy, the M80 is the least bassy of the V-Moda headphone.
Is it more expensive though? last time i checked they costed 80 bucks, i guess it's being a while, for 120 bucks you can grab the M50 which measure very similar to the M80 but are over-ear.
About the V6 cable, depends on use, i use mine mostly on the bus, so it's not a problem, but they are kindda wonky for talking walks with.
Audio-Technicas are not meme headphones, people usually say that because the M50 is a bit overpriced for what it delivers, AD900X for example is audio technica and is a good alternative to those who like the k702 but preffer something that doens't require an amp.
>>54960595
>Every time that black engraved O2 impresses me, looks so cool!
Cheers, glad to see that someone else like it ;)
![Beats-logo[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/EGLMy3D.png "Beats-logo[1].png")
In case you needed another reason not to buy Beats:
>Be given a pair of Beats Studio 1 wired headphones
>They're missing the battery door
>Call Apple
>Be told it's $149 to have the headphones sent it for service to get the battery door replaced
>Ask why a piece of plastic costs as much as a new pair of Beats
>Apple rep says if I'm not satisfied with the price I should try buying parts off eBay
I just got off chat with them a few minutes ago. What the fuck.
When my 25 year old pair of Grados broke I called the company and two days later I had the parts for free.
>>54960670
if the small price difference doesn't bother me O2 or element?
My koss portapros just broke after four years, I loved them ; _ ;. I used them almost 100% at the gym. Would it be stupid to get AT M50x for the gym? I want to upgrade but I don't want them to break after a year because I used them whilst lifting and some running.
>>54964909
Lifetime warranty on those protapros. Just get them replaced.
>>54964945
I don't know that I have the paperwork or anything on them so I'm not sure I'd be able to, and like I said I want to upgrade.
I guess the question is, is it stupid to get mid range premium headphones for the gym? I'm talking below $200.
>>54964991
They're generally bulky and will probably be susceptible to sweat buildup if they're cicumaural. Generally speaking, not good for the gym.
>>54963693
because apple makes cheap shit for nigger rich retards and niggers. you're supposed to dump it every few years when a new version comes out and buy the newest one available.
>>54964909
would you recommend the portapros for use in bed/sleeping?
>>54965168
Serious question?
Lol I don't think I could sleep with them on given I move a lot and sleep on my side. I would definitely bother my ears.
>>54965225
damn thought since they are so small it wouldn't get in the way
been looking for something sturdier to use when sleeping since my last pair of earbuds fell apart, the glue that held them together dried up
I'm looking for a dac/amp combo to go with my HiFiMAN HE-350's, any recommendations?
Budget - $60 with a little flexibility
So after nearly 4 years my fantastic Vmodas finally crapped itself to death. I'm not as rich as I once was since I lost my job recently and am trying to conserve money.
I've heard rock zircons are great budget earphones. Anyone know how they would compare to the Vmodas? I'm not an audiofile, but I also don't want it to sound like there's a concrete wall between me and my earphones when I'm trying to enjoy my music.
>devices I'll be using it for
My redmi 3 pro, my tablet, and my netbook.
Currently using my Sony mdrzx310 headphones, but I'd like something smaller that fits in my ear.
Pic related.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
>>54966585
Also my budget is ~A$15.
The zircons are A$14 from aliexpress.
>>54966585
>I've heard rock zircons are great budget earphones.
From a shill. Piston 3 (beware fakes) are better for the same price range.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=R5vbTi0J2O4
what headphones are they using in this video? thanks
>>54966640
That's another reason I was considering the zircons. How to tell the fake pistons apart from the real ones?
I don't want to order, wait a month, then get fakes that'll sound shit and break in a month, then have to order again to find a real one.
>>54966664
>>54966640
Goldway, a legit xiaomi reseller, has them for A$17.9, Is it worth the extra $4?
>>54966664
>How to tell the fake pistons apart from the real ones?
Real ones come with a QR code that you can check if they're genuine online. I'd ask in the /csg/ thread for known reputable dealers.
>>54966664
>How to tell the fake pistons apart from the real ones?
buy from gearbest
>>54966585
Rocks are really good for bass but if you're looking for something balanced get something else. Rocks are V shaped and can have problems with sibilance. Just my experience of course.
>>54967871
If they're really too bassy you could use a preset EQ that lessens bass.
Would it be worth purchasing a pair of Senn Hd 700s if I can get them for like $450?
>tfw listening to HD650's for the first time
they aren't even amped yet, or burnt in, and I get it
holy fuck
I can't stop listening to music everything sounds so good
I can't wait for my amp to come
>>54968314
700's are a really weird headphone, you should listen to it first and make sure you like it before you buy it
>>54967986
Oh no I never said they were too bassy, the bass is awesome. If anything I eq the highs down to calm down the sibilance, and boost low mids. Then they are good.
>>54956005
sounds like you need MDR MA900 instead.
more sound
less headphone presence
>>54956342
So when are diminishing returns for
>IEMs
you get what you pay for
low priced IEMs do not have long term durability
high priced IEMs still guarantee quality increase in sound, comfort, ruggedness
>Closed headphones
Sony MDR 7506 and CD900ST
>Open headphones
Sony MDR MA900
>Bookshelves
Andrew Jones speaker lineup
>>54968949
Are the MDR MA900's better than the HD598s?
>>54966641
bump
been using the RHA MA750 for a week now...
>budget
$200-250
>location
US of A
>source
3.5mm headphone jack on my desktop/laptop
>preferred type of headphone
closed
>comfort level
very high. Must be good to wear for 3 or 4 hours worth of vidya
>balance
I want to be able to hear mids, highs and lows well without having the bass drown everything out.
>preferred music
trance, some really bass heavy electronic stuff, hard rock/metal. pretty much all over the place except for classical.
>past headphones
Bose quiet comfort, two different generations, most recently the QC25.
>other info
I want my headphones to be good for vidya (directional sound for foot steps) and music. good build quality is a must, my QC25 crapped out. the right can died and after some google-fu I learned that Bose has bad build quality and that this is a common issue on this model.
Any and all advice is appreciated
>>54955891
>SE215 sounds better than the HM5
Really? People seem to say SE215 is too dark and boomy.
>>54969117
it beats the 500 series in durability/soundstage/comfort and bass impact and speed (while keeping it neutral-ish) because 70mm drivers with bass lens.
>>54969272
why closed headphones for gaming?
if you have a bedroom exclusively for yourself, just get any open headphone out there and just attach a modmic.
MDR MA900 + modmic is a nice candidate especially if you game.
I need in ears for galaxy tab s2 with great bass under 200$.
Are sennheizer in ears good?
>>54969568
I prefer closed. I find circumaural the most comfortable and I also like the isolation they provide.
I'd also like to be able to use them if im in the same room as friends and not have everyone hear them
Just got my first pair of portapros, man these things are god tier for the price. What's your favorite cheap headphones?
4 hours left, are these worth it?!?!
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-hifiman-he-350
>>54956406
How do you like the CAL! ?
>>54956406
done any mods to your porta pros?
>>54968637
Ive had a pair of HD 558s I did the tape mod on so I know what Sennheiser sound is like
im really just looking to get true audiophile headphones
>>54969725
someone answer this,
self bump
>>54969725
>>54969996
I'm interested in this as well.
I need suggestions. I've been buying the same cheap ass $20 turtle beach headset for like 4 years and they keep breaking and now that I have a fucking job I wanna get something durable and comfortable and not total pleb tier. Help would be greatly appreciated.
>Budget
I'm probably gonna go with $80 max, give or take some.
>Location
USA
>Source
My computer which I play games and listen to music on.
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized.
>Open or closed
Closed.
>Comfort level
This is really important to me. I'd like something not too warm if that's possible? And I don't want them to be too tight and shit like that. Please, this is probably the most important part.
>Preferred tonal balance
wut
>Preferred music
I like literally all types of music so IDK
>Past headphones
Read above.
>>54970130
it looks like a pretty good deal if they got over 6k buying,
i am waiting for a 4chan headphone expert to answer
>>54955313
Anyone have any experience with Beyerdynamic DT 990 Premium 600 OHM Headphones?
I'm deciding between them and the Sennheiser HD 598
Yes I know there's a $100 difference
>Budget
100
>Location
US
>Source
3.5mm
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Doesn't matter
>Comfort level
As long as it's not really uncomfortable it's probably fine with me
>Preferred tonal balance
I don't know
>Preferred music
Rock
>Past headphones
None
What is a really comfy pair of headphones around $100? My beats solo 2 headphones suck and presses hard on the ear, which usually rely on EarPods.
>>54969725
>>54970365
>i am waiting for a 4chan headphone expert to answer
Only select few reviewers (sycophants) would have heard it at this point. There isn't much to go on for actual experience.
Existing measurements don't paint a particularly compelling picture. It's just alternate headphone to the headphones that would normally be in that price range, and not much more interesting than that.
>>54970436
990 has strong lows and highs, just like advertised. Highs are spiky around 9-10 kHz, bass boost is broad and goes into midbass. 600 ohm version is not very sensitive, you can just replace it with any other impedance model as availability and price dictate. The various impedance versions are basically the same, excluding impedance/sensitivity.
518/558/598 has higher sensitivity, less treble, more of an upper bass/low mid focus.
>>54970608
>beats solo 2 headphones suck and presses hard on the ear
On ears tend to do that. The XPT100 would be an improvement in that regard, at least.
>>54969598
Headphone models are too diverse to cast a wide sweeping generalization over. Even if it was so, you would want to pick out the notable ones and leave out the rest.
>>54970860
>Only select few reviewers (sycophants) would have heard it at this point. There isn't much to go on for actual experience.
>Existing measurements don't paint a particularly compelling picture. It's just alternate headphone to the headphones that would normally be in that price range, and not much more interesting than that.
oooh thanks
>Budget
$200, but willing to go a little higher if needed
>Location
US
>Source
PC, can get an amp if needed
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Fairly comfortable
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Preferred music
Rock, Hip-hop, Electronic, Weeb stuff
>Past headphones
MDR-V6, SHP9500
I've been thinking about grabbing something from AKG, like the Q701 or the K7XX. Would it be better to look for a used DT880 250 or HD600 instead?
>>54971256
Actually, seems like I was looking at the 880 premium by mistake, the 880 pro is in my price range. Is there any real difference other than the cable?
>>54971256
Went from the V6 to the DT880, felt quite natural.
The Premium has less clamp, but if you want less clamp you can just strech the Pro's headband a little with a few books over night.
what's an IEM? Why do /g/ and all things /g/ related use cryptic abbreviations?
>>54971387
in the time it took you to type up this stupid post you could have googled it
>>54971367
Are you using an amp for them?
>>54966641
bump
>>54970343
XPT100
>>54970571
HD558
>>54971545
they look kinda fugly, senpai
I recently had both the AKG K553 Pro and the NAD VISO HP50 recommended to me. Is there such a thing as fakes for either of these models, assuming that I find a deal on them? I assume not, but I figured it's worth asking.
Anyone care to chime in on comfort experience with either one?
>>54971556
Sounds like Beats are for you then.
>>54970860
would you recommend a specific amp for the 598s? I plan to use them for gaming and music
>>54972851
598s don't need an amp
Can studio headphones be used for gaming?
>>54972882
why would you think otherwise
>>54972859
In the previous thread they recommended I get an amp but didn't specify any good ones...
>>54972890
unless there's something terribly wrong with your current one, you don't need a discrete one.
>>54972887
sorry, meant should they? Like would the sound quality be significantly better for gaming?
>>54972905
>for gaming
i don't understand what you mean by this.
>>54972915
I don't either, I'm tired af. Sorry
>Budget
$200-400
>Location
US
>Source
PC, Bass Amp to not annoy parents during practice
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Fairly Comfortable
>Preferred tonal balance
Idk
>Preferred music
Stoner rock, sludge, doom metal, post punk, new wave, gothic rock, house
>Past headphones
Plantronics GameCom 780 - I liked how sturdy they were, the comfort level, great for gaming
I will be gaming a lot, but also listening to and creating music (I play bass and have recently joined a band)
>>54973007
I'm currently choosing between Sennheiser HD600 and Audio-Technica ATH-AD900X if thet's any help
>>54973118
Just gonna weigh in.
I don't see any reason to go for reference headphones if you're not gonna use them for monitoring or studio applications. Try looking for a cheaper set of open or semi-open cans. Is there any specific reason as to WHY they need to be open? There are plenty of closed cans that can fit your needs.
>>54973138
I prefer open for gaming. I like them better than closed
>Budget
200-300 USD
>Location
Merika
>Source
Scarlett audio interface, I have a little Topping amp if needed
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Whichever
>Comfort level
Very high
>Preferred tonal balance
As neutral as possible
>Preferred music
Metal, electronic (techno, idm and shit), rock
>Past headphones
Short-lived TMA-1 Studio (fucking headband snapped)
>>54969991
hd700 is not the "sennheiser sound", neither is the 800. that ends with the 650. the 700 is like a very uneven, jank hd800. it's actually considered one of the worst sennheisers by people into headphones, which is why you can find them for so cheap when they went for close to 1k initially.
>>54969739
CAL is amazing. it definitely has problems but the truth is it hits close to the best warm/bassy closed headphones like the d2000 or the th-0xx for $50. but even the problems are easy to get past. pads could be a bit bigger, and build is slightly cheap, and it would be nice if they folded. sound wise isolation is average, and bass is a bit loose, gets a tad too much into the mids so sound kind of wolly and thick without eq. eq down the upper bass some, up the highs a bit and it sounds near perfect. outside of the v6 I would say this gives the best bass value at the low end. and it's one of the best warm headphones imo.
>>54971941
maybe for the AKG but it's very unlikely. the nad is basically a niche audiophile headphone, even though it's designed for mass market appeal, it's not very well known.
I have the nad, comfort is good, but a bit awkward. you're always aware it's on your head even if it's not causing discomfort. it doesn't disappear like the 598 does. I added some extra padding to the headband of mine and it helps.
the k553 has the same design as the 550 and 551 which were known for having sealing issues with many people which fucked up the sound, so be ready to buy different pads.
>>54973218
hd600
I'm a fucking dingushead and used my dt770s too casually so the cables got a break in them. After taking them apart I fucking poked a hole in the driver. Not only that the cups are fucking finished after being cleaned so many times. Should I even try to salvage these or just get new headphones
>>54974537
LOL
>>54974713
I don't see any scorching on the wiring which indicates a short. What did you do? Take a soldering iron to the plugs?
Could someone post the Tyll gif?
you know the one
Are any of thr /csg/ IEMs good or is it just a meme?
I fell for the GR07 and Westone 1 meme so if cheap chink shit is just as good, I don't want to fall for the expensive meme.
Why the fuck do lossy encodes sound so fucking awful in the highs? Especially drums, jesus fucking christ.
>>54973138
To be fair AD900X is not commonly used as a refference monitor.
>>54974524
Cool, thanks for the knowledge man!
thoughts?
>>54973138
>>54973007
I chose to go with Beyerdynamic DT 990 250 Ohm and will get an Audioengine D1 DAC
AMPERIOR SUPERIOR
I just bought hd598s for 100 brand new
was that a good deal?
>Budget
500-100 MXN (Around 30-70 USD)
>Location
Mexico
>Source
Mostly PC and iPhone 3
>Preferred type of headphone
Whichever
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
As high as possible
>Preferred tonal balance
I'm not picky
>Preferred music
Electronic, Hip-Hop and Weeb Shit
>Past headphones
Skullcandy Uprock
Bonus points if it's wireless, but I don't know if my budget can afford that
>>54979862
Not bad at all.
>>54973218
HD600, DT880 if want something just as comfortable, but HD600 is closer to neutral in general.
>>54969235
Are they any good? These are shilled a lot here and was looking for something around that price range.
>>54982501
I have no idea but here's more info about them.
http://rinchoi.blogspot.com.au/2013/10/rha-ma750-part2-general-analysis.html
>>54977076
They are good if you just want something that will hold together for a long time. Most of them have great build quality with braided wires but as far as sound goes if you want to use them all the time then get something more expensive. I have several /csg/ IEMs and they are not very great in the sound department compared to the more expensive IEMs. I would get one or two /csg/ IEMs and then get something that is more than say $50 for everyday shit.
>Budget
200$
>Location
Russia
>Source
galaxy tab s2
>Preferred type of headphone
in ear only
>Preferred tonal balance
as much bass as possible for in ears while not compromising the voice range frequencies
>Preferred music
no preference
>Past headphones
hd 650
>>54978495
Heavy.
would fostex HP-A3 give acceptably loud sound from something like DT 770 or DT 150 or will they need a separate amp?
What does hpg think of the Hx cloud 2?
>>54978495
Yea better keep them on that bubble wrap or they'll crack. He'll they might even crack under their own weight.
What do you think about Beyerdynamic DX 160 IE?
>Budget
100-150 cad
>Location
canada
>Source
ipod and computer
>Preferred type of headphone
full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
enough to travel with/wear for a long time
>Preferred music
metalcore/trance/rap/house
>Past headphones
ipod/misc shitty in ears
>>54985413
MDR 7506/V6.
>>54986127
Not him but do you need an amp for the v6 on a smartphone? I looked it up and it wasn't really clear but people seemed to say its much better with one.
So far tried from lowest to highest price
>sony mdr v6
v shaped sound, bright, built like a tank, good comfort with velour pads, no detachable cable, oem ear pads deteriorate quick
>audio technica m50x
sond wise they are alright, reminds me of a less bright mdr v6, clamp too much, overall a very good headphone of the price, pretty good build quality would recommend for beginners, 3 cables included (one curly, on with a remote, one strait) Right now the bass and the clamp on these are giving me a headache though
>sennheiser 558
plastic, plastic, plastic, sound good but to much plastic for the money come with a 1/4" plug with a adapter to 3.5mm, one super long detachable, velour pads
>audio technica msr 7
sound good without being too analytical might go back to them, but they clamp you head, good build quality, metal band with indicators of what adjustment you are at, includes 3 types of cables of varying lengths (one 90 degree with control, one 90 degree, one straight long), I really liked the mids on this one
>sony mdr 1a
mellow sound, but has punchy bass that you can't get rid of, but after a while while listening to music in the back ground they are really mellow, 2nd best comfort(light), build quality is crap for the money, 2 cables included one with a remote one without both are short and thin as shit
>akg k712 pro
comfortable but anemic sound, pretty, comes with velour pads which is a plus for hot weather
>>54986206
nope, can drive mine straight from the smartphone with no issues, although i usually use a sansa clip.
>Budget
60-100 USD
>Location
East Coast USA
>Source
Android Phone and Windows laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
Closed, over-ear, and ideally not too bulky so i can travel with.
>Comfort level
Honestly the most important factor for me. I would like to wear them for long periods of time, while wearing glasses. Other "comfy" headphones I've tried were pretty uncomfortable once I put on my glasses...
I definitely would risk sound quality for comfort
>Preferred Music
Mostly power metal, but I listen to a variety
>Past headphones
I really dislike in-ear headphones and never feel comfortable with on-ear headphones after like 30 minutes. I liked my SteelSeries Siberia v2 when I still had them. It was decently comfortable, but I really don't want a mic now, just headphones to connect with my phone and that are easy to travel with.
>>54960865
I would recommend the XS if you want more portability. It's an M80 that folds.
Has anything notable happened with headphones lately? Are the HD600s still the go-to?
>Budget
~70 USD
>Location
Canada (lol)
>Source
Everything
>Preferred type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
C O M F Y / 1 0
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Past headphones
Shitty IEM freebies, would like to stop sticking things inside my ear canals from now on. I reckon anything would be an improvement.
[spoiler]How big is the XPT100?[/spoiler]
>>54988138
>Are the HD600s still the go-to?
Yes unless you like the sound signature of the DT880 or AKG K702. The big three are still the big three.
>>54988156
>How big is the XPT100?
I'd say regular size. Here's a shot with it and the K240 and SRH840.
>>54987185
XPT100
>>54988975
That's a big K240.
>>54984073
I love my mother
>Budget
$100, but a little more is okay
>Location
US
>Source
desktop
>Preferred type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
closed but I'm OPEN to open
>Comfort level
very comfy, going to wear them for long periods at a time
>Preferred tonal balance
bassy is nice but I'm okay with neutral
>Preferred music
Lots of different stuff, I listen to almost everything. I like some bass though
>Past headphones
AKG K612, MDR V6
I have no idea why but both of these died rather quickly despite always always being careful with them, as I am with all my electronics. Really shitty because I spent so much time deciding on them so clearly i'm doing something wrong.
I was interested in the Sennheiser HDD 558 phones but I'll ask here
