>Several testers reporting thermal throttling issues
>1080 running at well above 80c
>card losing its boost
>2016
>180tdp
>fermihousefire.jpg
There is absolutely no excuse for a six hundred -fucking-dollar card to have these kind of thermal issues in 2016. Literally none.
>reference card
Again, a buttblasted poor AMDshill
This card shows it's a piece shit. Have to run fans at at least 90% to get decent temps. OC is out the window.
Nvidia is kill
The people who fell for the Founders Edition meme deserve it desu.
>>54945346
>>54945992
>mfw over promised and under delivered yet again
>>54924126
>mfw AMD's software/driver team doesn't have half the talent of Nvidia's driver gimping team and they try to give a better experience than Nvidia and fail, while Nvidia acts like a monopoly and stuff just works better than AMD
And no 2.1Ghz overclock, let's NOT forget this.
>>54946724
AMD literally outshilled the shills
>displays Polaris
>"top-notch performance, matches 980"
>only in dx12
>AMD literally forcing users to install win10
Fucking AMD
>>54946603
>above 80c
That's not ideal, but let's be real. Nvidia said 105c was Fermi's normal operating temperature. We're still 20 degrees from being Fermi tier.
>>54946826
Not to mention
>two 480's in AotS scale at 51% (what they meant is that that their two cards get 151% the performance of a single card), but lol real really it's 83% (meaning that they effectively said their single card performance was much higher, a 7 fps difference between the single card numbers).
Nvidia reclaims the Housefire throne
will AMD take it back?
>>54946880
>Nvidia said 105c was Fermi's normal operating temperatur
pretty much this. The 1080 is STILL a phenomenal card and all the AMDcucks got going on for them is that miserable pipe dream based on a shoddy benchmark of a game nobody gives a shit about (aots).
This year is going to be glorious for Nvidia. First their 1060 will destroy the 470/480, than the 490 will turn out to be housefire-tier, finally the 1080ti will sweep everything off the ground and AMD will be left lying in ashes of singularity.
Nvidia are liars and AMD doesn't have any drivers. What the fuck do I choose?
>>54946966
install gentoo
>>54946966
Intel(r) Iris Pro (tm).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rvrRx-3eUE
>>54946943
Wait till the sales figures start rolling in.
>thinks polaris 10 is the top of the line card
>not realizing Vega might drop q4
>>54946966
Voodoo2
>>54946943
1060 can't match 480 performance wise.
Everyone knows it's half a 1080, ie 1280 shader cores. Considering the 970 is 55% the performance of a 1080 on average, unless they clock the 1060 to the moon it'll struggle to exceed a 970, let alone a 980, which we already know the 480 is above.
It'll be another 380X scenario where AMD has a card in a performance and price slot that Nvidia can't match directly.
And remember, the 480 is a cut Polaris 10
>>54949463
Please, tell us more about these cards no one owns or knows anything about.
>>54949463
>which we already know the 480 is above.
Based on AMD's only benchmark they've put out, which shows two 480s getting ~62 fps. The AotS benchmarks show that the 980 single card can get up to 70 fps (allegedly, that one is above most multi GPU 980 set ups so IDK what's happening) and most are around the 40-50 fps range. http://ashesofthesingularity.com/metaverse#/ladders/benchmark/overall/Crazy_1080p?viewType=myself&filters=%7B%22gpu%22:%22NVIDIA%20GeForce%20GTX%20980%22,%22api%22:%22DirectX%2012%22%7D
A single 480 would get ~32 fps at the same settings because AMD clarified that the second GPU was actually being used at 83% in that benchmark (so two cards perform as well as 183% of one card). And this is in dx12, where AMD and Polaris shines. The 480 will come close to the 980 in a few, specific settings, but that's it.
>>54946615
When the reference spec of a card has thermal issues, THAT IS NOT GOOD OR ACCEPTABLE. The ref should be the benchmark, not the minimum viable product.
>>54949722
I specifically remember every heat stroke you cunts have yelled about in GPU's being bullshit anyway.
the HD4850 wasn't that fucking hot (ok bad example. Single-slot)
Fermi wasn't that fucking hot
the 2**-3**x series weren't that fucking hot
>>54949722
>not the minimum viable product
But that's what reference has always been. Nvidia is trying to see if they can get away with charging the Apple tax, but that doesn't mean their other cards are shit.
>>54946603
>There is absolutely no excuse for a six hundred -fucking-dollar card to have these kind of thermal issues in 2016. Literally none.
You're right, buying the reference card is retarded since it really seems to be pretty damn shit this time around, for a fucking $100 premium too.
Custom coolers should keep temps in check and prevent thermal throttling.
>>54946966
NVIDIA wants to assrape you and AMD is incompetent. Welcome to the dedicated graphics card market, enjoy your stay.
>>54946603
>six hundred -fucking-dollar card
Completely unrelated but
>GTX 1080 is 700 USD on newegg
>almost 1000 USD to buy one in NZ
>>54946603
>buy $600 card
>use stock cooling
Come on, it's obviously an enthusiast card.
>>54949763
That's a hell of a "should". This tells me that the card runs too goddamn hot and a sane cooler (i.e. something that doesn't look like gamer trash or sound like a dust buster) can't keep it under control.
>>54946603
Didn't he say in this exact video he can take off thermal throttling by changing some settings?
The temp went up by a few C but everything stayed perfectly boosted the entire time at 80% fanspeed 83-85c right? Which is hot, but the card worked as it intended.
There's obviously something wrong with some software/driver setting if your temps are maxing out but your fan speed is low..
>>54949781
I'm a little bit more on the casual side, I just set my R9 290 to 4xEQ AA and 16x AF and call it a day.
It handles the games I play well enough. I don't plan on upgrading anytime soon with what I have.
>>54949654
>>54946724
It's most likely a multiGPU setup and AOTS didn't pick it up mainly because a single R9 390 got similar results.
http://ashesofthesingularity.com/metaverse#/personas/99d0787b-c50d-4995-983e-2acb1e2b3b03/match-details/d505ee49-5c90-495e-abcc-89f3706a5d88
>>54946603
give em those press exclusive drivers
that'll clear it right up
>People are trying to compare cards that no one owns and doesn't have any proper benchmarks
Do you people have Downs syndrome?
>>54946603
Get this.
>ordered 1080
>out for delivery
>delivered and signed by ROBERT
>what the hell? my name is adam and I dont have the package
>call shipping company
>"Were sorry, please call the seller"
>wait, you delivered to the wrong place and let someone who HAS A DIFFERENT FUCKING NAME sign and it's the seller's fault?
Im switching to amd
>>54949896
Robert probably would've stolen your 480X too tbf.
>>54949882
It's /g/. You tell me.
>>54946615
I don't know why anyone buys reference anymore. When AMD does it, people cry poorfag. When NVidia does it, people cry suicide watch.
reference is shit to save money, don't buy reference unless you're water cooling.
>>54949896
>>delivered and signed by ROBERT
I know that's bullshit because nobody makes their signature legible on that little device the delivery guy hands you.
>>54949967
That's what it says. Online tracking says "Signed by: ROBERT" in all caps like that
>>54946615
>founders edition
>$100 premium
>"""craftsmanship"""
>reference card
>JUST rip me off
>hahahaha stupid goym
only buthurt novidia fags can make this shit up
>>54946615
$700
>>54950038
>$100 premium
wait, you have to pay MORE for the reference version of these cards?
>>54950063
yes. That's why they're a complete waste of money.
>>54950091
that is advanced stupidity beyond what I've ever imagined for people who've actually bought that
and a fucking genius business move from nvidia for exploiting these retards
>>54950063
yes,and the milked idiots even ""defend"" this online with
>early adopters
kek
>easier to water cooling block
like ek and other havent put out enough variants for past non reference cards
>overclocks better, muh 2.1ghz on air
hhahaha no, classic bait and switch on novidia presentations
>>54949850
subscribed!
>>54950151
>Nvidia can now milk the "whales" of the consumer GPU market with bullshit like this so they always have more money for R&D than AMD
>>54950151
only the reference cards from NVidia
we should see reference designs from other vendors soon for cheaper, but not "FOUNDERS EDITION!!!!"
>>54949821
I fail to see why I should care what a component that goes inside a closed box looks like
>>54950191
There are no reference cards that aren't from NVIDIA. That's the point, a reference card is the one built by the manufacturer.
The real question is how loud is it at 100% fan speed?
Some reviews say 41db at 100% maxed out gaming and 46 under 100% maxed out torture test, during both it doesn't thermal throttle
I doubt you'll even be able to hear that inside a case with headset on, right? In which case - No thermal throttling and everything is fine?
>>54950400
they'll make blower fan copies, it might take a while though. might not have vapor chamber though
Another one to the pile, boys!
>>54950642
Google showed up nothing for "gtx 1070 memory usage 6gb". What's the sauce on this? I'm a bit skeptical because only reviewers have the card so far, Nvidia was already sued and lost over lying about memory once, and benchmark tools for new cards often make mistakes with recognizing things like memory and other components. Also any troll can upload an image of a test of their 6gb card and say it's the 1070.
>>54946943
>1080ti will sweep everything off the ground
>GDDR5X
It's absolutely not possible. Fucking Fury X beats 1080 at 4k thanks to HBM.
Pascal is obsolete at launch.
>>54950013
lmao
who is robert??
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-confirmed/
>1060/ti
>100w power draw
>between 970 and 980 performance for possibly as low as $230 (the article was written before the Polaris announcement, Nvidia probably reacted by keeping the price on the 1060/ti not as high as they were going to before)
AMD IS FINISHED AND BANKRUPT. POOLARIS DEAD ON ARRIVAL. AMDOOFUSES ON SUICIDE WATCH.
>>54946724
>>mfw AMD's software/driver team doesn't have half the talent of Nvidia's driver gimping team and they try to give a better experience than Nvidia and fail, while Nvidia acts like a monopoly and stuff just works better than AMD
lel.jpg
>>54949967
>nobody makes their signature legible on that little device the delivery guy hands you
>mfw always thought i was the only one who couldn't sign on the device properly and felt bad about it
>>54951098
>using poo jokes when that article was written by a pooinloo
>>54946603
There's literally nothing wrong with thermal throttling.
The issue is why the fuck is a $600 card running at such shitty temps for basic rendering.
>>54946603
Fuck off Roy
>>54951098
>worse than a 980
>same price as a 480, which is better than a 980
>buying an objectively worse card because it has your teams name on it
>>54946603
>>1080 running at well above 80c
What temperature do you expect a GPU maxing 2160P run? Fucking christ with you faggs
>RX 480 is worse than R9 390
>RX 480 is between R9 390 and R9 390X
>RX 480 is the same as GTX 980
>RX 480 is between GTX 980 and GTX 980Ti
Why do I keep hearing all of these?
>>54951894
because no one really knows and speculate about it. All we knows is that 2x 480 have the same performance of one 1080.
my bet is between 390X and 980
>>54952068
I'm hoping 980-tier with overclocking to near-980Ti.
I'm gonna hold off for a fair while though, I think. Vega is around the corner, and people might start selling Polaris off EVEN CHEAPER if they upgrade that quickly.
> tfw snag a RX 480 for sub-$250AUD
I can only dream
>>54952068
in one game. that AMD keeps shilling.
>>54949896
The reason they wanted you to contact the seller is because that's their client, not you.
If there's a problem with the shipment, they're answerable to the seller, not you.
>All these butthurt shills that preordered 1080
Shit!
I thought the cuckolds anon meeting was being held tomorrow.
Brb, gotta drop off my wife's son at ballet and take a fresh picture of my SLI 970's
>>54951098
>http://wccftech.com
>>54951098
So it's pretty much exactly a 480, except higher real tdp because
>Nvidia
>reporting accurate tdp
>shiggy
and 480 is all but confirmed somewhere right around 980/fury performance, and costs $30 less for the 4gb version, and the same for 8gb?
>>54950819
[Citation Needed]
Im getting the asus version of the 1080
>>54953415
>not getting evga
>>54953443
Asus is better than evga
>>54953480
In what way?
>>54953496
every one
>>54953505
Nah senpai.
>>54953480
Asus has inferior power circuitry and locked voltage control. Evga FTW has two more phases and non-reference vbios
>>54953508
ok shill
>>54946966
let other people get cucked
buy used cards
>>54953527
That picture demonstrates what, exactly?
>>54949896
C U C K E D
U
C
K
E
D
>>54953546
That you're the kind of idiot that gets scammed by evga
>>54953551
Theres nothing wrong in that picture. Its just a heatsink.
>>54953564
>Theres nothing wrong in that picture.
keep digging
>>54953546
>>54953564
>chip isn't even contacting the third useless heatpipe
>>54953564
The pipe is cut, which means there is no coolant inside.
>>54949896
This happened to me once. Turned out it was just the guy at the post office.
Did you call your local post office to check?
Of course it thermally throttles.
Better than setting an artificial clock cap and not utilizing it fully.
At least it doesn't get to +100°c like the RX series !
>>54953527
HAHAHHAAHAH WHAT THE FUCK
You're all tremendous faggots, massive great shill faggots.
Nvidia fanboys, AMD fanboys, you're literally as bad as each other.
>>54951855
>faster than a 980
>implying AMD won't over promise and under deliver yet again
>>54946943
So why is it that the 290/290X run hot and thermal throttle on reference cooling and need partner board designs to keep them in check, everyone says AMD runs too hot 3 years later, even when talking about AMD's new 150w TDP, single-6-pin midrange card. Yet the 1080 runs hot and thermal throttles on reference cooling and needs partner board designs to keep it in check, but since it doesn't hit Fermi's housefire levels, it's still a phenomenal card and AMD is finished?
>>54950819
>Fucking Fury X beats 1080 at 4k thanks to HBM
Find one single benchmark where this is true. Fury X closes the gap at 4k compared to lower resolutions, yes, but I've seen not one example where the 1080 doesn't rightly kick the Fury X's balls up its ass.
>>54954421
Are we back to spreading lies Nvidia shills?
The only GPU that has done 100+ °C in normal conditions is the GTX 480, there's literally no other GPU able to do that
Oh, temperature as in the chip temperature, not VRM's, Titan X does 100+ on the VRM's
>Nvidia Pascal reference design
>Can't properly cool the GPUs, leading to thermal throttling after 10 minutes of use
>AMD Fury cards reference design
>Fucking based, keeping both Nano and FuryX cool no matter how long you run at them at 100%
Fury reference coolers >>>>>>>>>> housefire >>>>>>>>>> microwave oven >>>>>>>>>>>>> Pascal reference coolers
I can't believe people are paying Nvidia money.
>>54946966
"I'll just get a fucking playstation and build that gaming pc next year" - Me, 2009-2016
>>54946603
>NVIDIA
not even one
>>54953660
Not them, but even if it didn't contact it still would get some heat transfer being so close to a pipe with direct contact. Not really sure why they would design a heat pipe into the thing then not use the pipe itself.
>>54955315
>there are people who live outside of the consumer paradise that is America
How horrifying.
>>54955413
>consumer paradise
>America
Pick one
>>54946603
>82c
>throttling
are you mentally retarded or something?
82c isn't even that hot for a gpu. Most laptops will happily run at around 80-90c and last a long time.
and it's still at 99% of it's rated max turbo boost speed which happens even if your card is running really cool.
>>54946603
People claim the 1080 crashes on every fucking game after some minutes
>>54955543
super defensive for some reason.
Different arches(including the way they were produced) throttle at different temps. Some throttle at 80, some can work up to 100.
>>54955675
Where?
If true, I gotta see this kek
The GPU can max out basically anything at 4K and I use them for 4K gaming and they usually hang around at 82-85c.
I've noticed throttling in 92c.
I don't understand what sort of temps you realistically expect from single fan GPU that can max out anything in 4K.
Fucking morons
>>54955675
I'll probably get called a shill, but that's not true for me at least.
>>54946966
It's time to switch over to Intel integrated graphics anon and hope that one day they will pull some black magic that makes integrated graphics match up against gpus
>>54955766
>tfw actually using Intel graphics for the time being
It's easy. If you want a GPU that will run anything out now and probably for a year or more to come without any kind of problems, get an Nvidia card. You pay a small premium, but at least you know shit works
If you want a card that might some day in a year or two get the software supported needed to use its full potential and match equivalent Nvidia GPUs in performance, get an AMD card. You pay a bit less but you also don't get the full performance until the card is pretty much obsolete.
>>54955719
I'm a krautfag but a German youtuber mad a lifestrean and presented the card - wanted to play some games which blackscreened he even installed win10 and win8 with the card in the build and it bluescreened. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fjomIvvhCg4
>>54956351
Did a lifestream*
>>54956351
>Watching a German youtuber
>Watching any youtuber
Begehe Selbstmord, du elende Schwuchtel.
>>54956378
Habe nur nach 1080 reviews geguckt, Spasti.
>>54946826
Vulkans a thing
>get gpu
>use default fan curve
C'mon, everyone knows you need to at L E A S T set up a new fan curve when you get a new gpu.
I'm pretty sure the problem people are having is that the GPU is trying to hit 82c as the temperature cap for some reason. So it will obviously throttle itself to get back to that 82c
If the fan curve is set to only go to 50% at 80c obviously the card will just get hotter and hotter until eventually hitting 80c, it's not getting enough air.
How to fix this? Change the fan curve. Set it up so it'll be running 70% at 70c, all of a sudden you're running it at 70c 70% fan speed rather than 50% speed at 82c.
Ramp it up even higher, set the gpu temp limit to 85 or 90 rather than 82(?) and force the fans to run at 100% when getting to 85.
It's pretty simple if you ask me. Don't set a temperature limit if your fan curve isn't going to be in line with it.
>>54956378
Diese Porno1080sheisse youtuber sieht aus wie ein Nigger
AMD IS FINISHED, POORFAGS BTFO
So why don't they space out the components and make a bigger chip with the smaller process? Surely not bunching it all up in a small chip would produce cooler temps? Is the lid that expensive to make?
>>54957327
That actually produces more heat because electricity traveling through even more silicon produces more heat.
>go through the effort of making a video about thermal throttling
>not bothering to change the fan curve
wow its fucking nothing!
OP here
Can someone tell me why is it that when somebody posts a decent topic (discussing on particular parts/software) they get like 2-3 responses, but when there is such obvious bait in the OP, greentext shilling on a random pic, there is like hundreds of comments?
What the fuck has become of /g/...
>>54957327
Because everything you said is wrong, that's why
>>54946943
>>54946880
Fermi ran that fucking hot? Holy shit, that can melt through steel memes.
>>54946603
Rich fags thermal throd
>>54953660
This is Okay though.
Nvidiots love to pay extra for the true Nvidiafag Experience™.
That cut off heatpipe just means Evga can save some money and feel better, and when Evga feels better, the Nvidiafag feels better, it's part of the Experience™ they paid for.
>>54957351
We've always been like this. Back then when Fermi came out, pretty sure InElite started quite a few of those threads, and every single one without exception was a flamewar. It got even worse when AMD dropped the 5000 series that beat the shit out of Fermi at almost every point.
>>54957776
GF100 was a shitpile of a chip. TSMC didnt know what the fuck they were doing on the 40nm node, and combined with the GF100 die being as fuckhuge as it was meant that yields were horrible (literally 1.7%). They were so bad some wafers had no viable chips, and what viable chips that DID come out ran extremely hot. Full-Fat GF100 chips ran so hot and consumed so much power that they had to be cut down to 480 shaders just so they didnt overwhelm their VRMs or cooling solutions. The ones that didnt run so hot (one in a couple thousand viable chips) were all sent to be turned into Teslas.
>>54956008
is that 750ti
>>54946724
>le AMD driver maymay xDDD
It's not 2004 anymore, Nvidia shill.
>>54957943
>It's not 2004 anymore, Nvidia shill.
This. I had a 970 meme cuckold card and remember at least two driver package that will utter shit, leading to BSODs etc. Reverting to older ones solved the problem. If I were on win10 I'd be literally fucked.
Both companies made some mistakes with drivers tho
>>54946615
b-but muh "premium founders edition" with superior design and stuff!!!
kek. Nvidiafags cucked again.
>>54946603
>>54957862
No, my Intel HD530.
>>54950593
Pretty sure MSI showed one at computex.
>>54956378
>>54957278
Ihr möchtegern Deutschen artikuliert euch schlimmer als die schmutzigsten Kanacken.
>>54959154
>Ihr möchtegern Deutschen artikuliert euch schlimmer als die schmutzigsten Kanacken.
Aber wir sind nicht Nvidiajuden wie du!
>>54959208
Klar weil ich mir jedes Produkt kaufe von dem ich mir Reviews angucke. So spastisch die Karte ist wird's diesmal AMD. Nvidia hat wieder mal gelogen. Based AMD sagte wir bekommen doppelte Performance per Watt und sie gaben un zweieinhalb mal soviel.
>>54946603
Over $900 CDN
>reference
>cuck life
>only you can prevent forest fires
>>54946615
I think you mean Founders Edition
>>54946966
AMD does have drivers now
>>54950760
>8gb becomes 6.7gb becomes 6gb
What do you need 5.4gb for?
>>54952068
Don't forget that one 1080 was running "press drivers" that lowered settings to achieve higher FPS benchmarks
>Mfw when amd drivers are still shit and gets gimped in performance by devs..
Devs don't give 2 shits about amd and Nvidia is just better at the moment
>but muh Rx 480 crossfire
As if devs ever really gave a shit about multi gpu. Fucking cucks
>>54959354
Where fuck you claim 6.7GB from ?
>>54959400
This. A lot of games get low gpu usage on amd desu senpai. Also the Drivers are kind of bad. Remember a few fury cards dying kek
>>54959373
That was a mistake on AMD's part, the 1080 publid driver was already available by the time AMD did the press conference.
Also it's not like Nvidia is the only one who has released press only beta drivers, AMD does it too.
Their 300 series drivers had optimizations that didn't made it to the 200 series until weeks later just to make the 390 look better.
What is with all the blatent AMD shilling on /g/? I know /g/ gets butthurt at Nvidia's and Intel's market dominance and wants more competition, that's fine. But holy shit get AMD's cock out of you mouth.
>>54959401
Some guy from a Taiwanese knitting forum claimed it was 6.7gb but was shut down in the same thread.
Also the claims of thermal throttling are hilarious when the picture shows it's maintaining it's boost clock even at temps of 80 degrees.
>>54959437
/Thread
>>54959433
>it was AMDs mistake to beat 1080 drivers that essentially cheated
Wew lad
>>54959437
Can't afford a GTX1080, have to shit to shit on it. It's console wars all over again.
>>54959459
No, it was their laziness they used a beta driver when the public driver was already fully available for everyone.
I own a 1080 am nothing but impressed by it. Yes it can run high temps but bar that its spot on.
Its quieter too than a 970 and a 980ti. As soon as I can watercool it I will be doing so.
In the witcher 3 (full ultra, everything up) tempwise it ran at 71 degrees
>>54955725
>max out anything in 4K
>morons
glad you are happy with your purchase
>hurr durr Nvidia shills
>AMD is literally starting to sponsor the same people as Nvidia
Kek, can't wait until AMD becomes more like Nvidia because playing the underdog hasn't worked well for them, and Nvidia's tactics have proven to be successful in the market so now they'll want to copy that.
>>54959437
>I wasn't browsing /g/ right after the 1080 was released
It was the exact same shitfest.
>>54959479
Yet two mainstream cards still won
>>54959594
Yeah "Two"
AMD shills now recommending CF when everyone knows dual gpus are always shit.
You can't make this shit up.
>>54956011
Are you still in 2012? AMD is ahead in dx12
Also
> small premium
kek
>mfw Ashes of the Singularity sales spike by 1000% after the rx 480 is released because that's literally the only game the 480 will do well in
>mfw they'll have gtx 960 tier performance in every other game
>>54959611
>two crossfired $199 cards beating a $700 enthusiast card that used drivers that lowered settings
You literally can't make this shit up
>>54959617
AMD ahead in dx12... its hardly an issue as nothing really supports it as yet so nobodys that bothered until later down the line
>>54959594
"won" you mean did slightly better in 1 game. I like how they didnt show any other games nor did they only use 1 card.
Soon as the 480s are tested properly the truth will be hilarious
>>54959630
For the last time, they never showed crossfire. dx12 multi GPU is NOT crossfire. It performs better than crossfire, so outside of dx12 games that are coded to support multiple GPUs you will not see this same level of performance by using crossfire.
>>54957327
The yield is lower for bigger chips, so it is actually way more expensive (i.e. probability of defect is bigger on a big chip).
>>54957343
I was told that about 30-50% of energy usage is due to transport. The electricity goes through the wiring, not silicon.
>>54959664
The fact that mainstream cards from the same generation as the enthusiast card can beat the enthusiast card in ANY game, let alone in a game where drivers cheated to score higher FPS benchmarks, speaks volumes to Pascal just being a die shrunk Maxwell
>>54959673
Even better, as games use DX12 and Vulkan more over the next year or two and begin to ditch DX11 then this will become more commonplace
>>54959594
https://youtu.be/PJ5wYVu-tM8
Watch that & come back. I love the smell of tears
>>54959677
There are wires inside a processor? I figured he just meant making the processor bigger, not cutting it up into several mini processors and connecting them on the PCB.
>>54959636
If you just read the post I was commenting on and realize that was shit
>>54949917
Reference is the base model. It is the released, finalised model. In the same way a car is expected to be roadworthy and not explode into flames or piss oil just because you didn't buy the "titanium" or "special edition" version with the sunroof and leather seats, the reference model of a GPU is the base working product straight from the OEM.
>>54959702
No, it's not even better. Developers have to specifically code support for it, which is why they use Ashes over other dx12 games. Very few people have multiple GPUs, so few games will support it. If you crossfire two 480s, you won't get the advertised performance (this would be called lying if Nvidia did it... they also got the second GPU utilization wrong, it's 83% not 51%, so they implied the single card performance is higher than it actually is, which would be considered lying if Nvidia did that in a presentation...) and you'll have to deal with the micro stutter.
>>54959751
>why they use Ashes over other dx12 games
They use Ashes because it IS the only dx12 game.
I can't believe goys will she'll out a hundred dollar premium on top of an already overpriced card, to receive a product that is guaranteed to have issues that won't be resolved for at least a month. Are these people mentally deficient?
>>54959704
>480 is estimated to use 90watts at stock
>has a 150 watt total head room
>at worst it will compete with the 980 and perform as well as a Fury
Is this supposed to make me look down on the 480?
>>54959751
Also the fact AMD had to use an i7 and not their cpu's as they are not good enough!
>>54959778
What issues? mine runs fine.
>>54959751
>its bad when AMD shows the potential it's cards have in future APIs like DX12 and Vulkan instead of DX11
>>54946984
Haha
>>54959715
There are indeed wires inside a processor. A cpu is basically a huge circuit (with wiring), the silicon is used as the semiconductor for the transistors and the substrate for the chip.
You were right about what he meant I think
>>54959767
Rise of the Tomb Raider and a few other games have dx12 patches now. They don't perform as well as AotS because AotS was coded from the ground up for dx12.
>>54959811
It's just bad when they only show one benchmark, and that one benchmark is a game that's fairly unique for the moment. They should have given more information on the card.
>>54950013
Because they ask for your fucking name and type it in. They know those digital signature things are shit and you could literally just doodle a cock on it to sign.
>>54959844
isn't hitman and total warhammer decent dx12 too?
>>54959861
that wasn't the full reveal of the card, the NDA for the Macau event ends on June 29th, when the card is expected to launch, with the actual launch of the full Polaris lineup to be revealed at E3
>>54959861
They cant as itll show the world what a shower of shyte the card is.
Its literally a 390x that uses less power.
So much lies from both companies on this release cycle. Fuck them. Not upgrading this year.
>>54959878
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_12_support
It doesnt state whether it does fully or partial
>>54959891
>Its literally a 390x that uses less power
that costs 200 less has die size of three times smaller and 200 more mghz
>>54959783
MAXIMUM KEKS
>>54959878
I would say so. And warhammer confirms that AMD cards benefit quite a bit as opposed to Nvidia.
>>54959915
https://youtu.be/PJ5wYVu-tM8
>>54959943
I can't take this guy seriously, this Scottish accent is killing me.
>>54959977
He knows his stuff though and its a fairly comprehensive episode he does on the card.
Saying they gave out fuck all info hes used what he could and made it into more
>>54956504
$700 gpu and you need to adjust fan settings for stock clock? Nvidia promoted their new frost chamber winter shilling cooling unit and it sucks so fucking hard? Nvidia is fking fail, how can fan design be so fucking hard? Literally if you let it work for 3 months without cleaning then it will blast into pieces and burn your house down.
>>54959943
>>54959704
Let's not forget these estimations are based on the 1080 using drivers that cheated the settings to increase FPS significantly, the 480 is much faster than the 390
>>54959977
https://youtu.be/dFnHZfX_Cb8
God bless Scotland.
>>54960011
The fps figures given out are actually very very close to the actual figures I get with my 1080.
How does that work then?
>>54960004
why the fuck is he dividing CF fps by 2 though? it never scales 100% from one card. As it is alpha drivers and CF generally sucks it is probably +40-50% of one card.
>>54960037
http://www.reddit.com/r/amd/comments/4m692q/_/
AMD clarified what they meant. Basically, it scales at 83% in AotS (which didn't use Crossfire, but native dx12 multi GPU support), so it used 100% of the first card and 83% of the second card. I'm surprised more people aren't calling AMD out on their bullshit, because the presentation said it was actually 51% utilization which would mean a significantly higher single card performance if only 151% of a single card performed that well.
>>54959943
So now AMD also wants to fuck my ass by hiding the release of a better GPU so that I get the cheapest one? That does not make sense at all.
>>54960033
Post benchmarks then, make sure you Max everything like AMD did with the latest drivers
>>54960111
>Single Batch GPU Util: 51% | Med Batch GPU Util: 71.9 | Heavy Batch GPU Util: 92.3% GTX 1080 – 58.7 fps | Single Batch GPU Util: 98.7%| Med Batch GPU Util: 97.9% | Heavy Batch GPU Util: 98.7%
This makes sense though, CF scales poorly- fact. One 480 probably gets 40-45fps in the range of 390x which confirms every leak and speculation to date.
>>54959977
just think its scotty from star trek and now he's a fucking genius.
>>54946603
Did you say 600 US Dollars? it costs 800 euros in europe.
>>54955315
>slavs are now technology
>>54960202
1.83x=62.5 fps, x=34.2 fps.
>>54960280
That's implying that multi gpu utilization scales to performance neatly.
>>54960170
Id happily do so but im not sure what you mean.
AMD didnt reveal the settings so how can I.
Oh and I was referring to the list of other games they listed the fps for. Not the one designed specially for amd.
Still waiting on upgrading my gtx580... Polaris is looking pretty good for the price, but vega is just around the corner too.
>>54960405
in the link amd guy says it's 1.83 which I missed
it's a lot, which doesn't speak kindly of single card performance
>>54960437
You are missing a point. I am asking whether you can just do retarded kindergarten algebra knowing utilization. That's kinda like measuring card performance in Gflops. Isn't it more reliable to just use the 3dmark benchmark for single card performance?
>>54960462
duh, but we have only these numbers to work with
well stop buying anything right after release in this bussines you bunch of fucking retarded fucktards
Are you retarded ? I think so.
>>54960405
>All togetherfor the entire test, there is 1.83X the performance of a single GPU in what users saw on YouTube.
Therefore a single 480 would have gotten 34.2 fps in the same test.
>The mGPU subsystem of AOTS is very robust.
They didn't use Crossfire. Crossfire will yield a bit worse GPU scaling.
>>54960543
Woops, didn't see >>54960437 when I made my comment.
>>54946880
The 51% was gpu utilization at the single batch portion of the benchmark. The 480 setup was cpu bound in light usage while the 1080 wasn't
>>54946603
I like AMD but this will just give people an excuse to water cool again anon.
>>54946724
>The people who fell for the Founders Edition meme deserve it desu.
Also this who the fuck bought that without wanting to install their own cooler. Even then the premium price is bullshit. It was just there to ba a tax on stupid people.
They had to use an i7-cpu as it renders so much better than their own cpu's
Holy shit AMD way to go.
It's interesting to what lengths people go to shill a product or talk shit about a product.
>>54960619
It's harder than it sounds to make a CPU that's better than i7.
You have 1 day before deadline for the conference, it takes years to build CPUs.
You would do the same thing.
>AMD literally got their start making chink tier clones of Intel processors
>AMD has always been second fiddle to Intel and Nvidia except for a brief moment around the time of the original Athlon
>there are people who STILL cling to their former glory
>mfw AMD showed fuck all about the 480 and the NDA doesn't lift before the product launches because they don't have much to be proud of, if they did they'd be eager to lift the NDA and show everyone how amazing their product is
>>54961120
Ati was around before Nvidia you nignog
Its after AMD merged with them that they went to shit
>>54961752
If only they could find a way to rebrand the 5900 with updated tech.
>>54961752
Uh, You mean after AMD bought ATI their graphics became shit.
>>54962010
Acquisition was in '06, and there were still great card like the HD 4000 series in '08, etc.
The thing that fucked them was that they designed GCN with the expectation that 20 nm and 14 nm shrinks would be functional and on time, which clearly didn't happen, hence three years of Hawaii GPUs.
Gooks fucking up HBM2 delivery is their next big problem, since their experience advantage over Nvidia with Fiji was supposed to let them beat GP102 to market with Vega by a big margin, but now everyone's just waiting.
>>54946615
>>54946943
>AMD does it
>Le housefire finish bankrupt
>It's okay when Nvidia does it
>>54961120
you mad bro?
>>54957840
evga is based though
>have a 780ti for 2 years
>get kernelcrashes when running @ high load
>rma the card
>get a 980 back
>>54961120
>hey guys i'm an expert now i watched techquickie
Kill yourself.
>>54946603
I'd like to see the temps at 65-75% fan speed
>>54946880
with FInFET all the heat is very centralized, so it has to have lower threshold.
>>54959154
Du kannst's Maul aufmachen, wenn du der deutschen Rechtschreibung mächtig bist, Schluchtenscheißer.
>>54959246
Warte auf unabhängige Benchmarks, bevor du AMD in die Falle gehts. Die lügen genauso wie Nvidia.
>>54946603
>54% fan speed
>Thermal Throttling
How about no. Anyone with a brain will set a custom fan curve. Bam, no more thermal throttling.
>>54963301
Say hello to your leafblower. Even the 290X in Uber mode didn't go past 55% fan speed.
>these containment threads are allowed to exist on /g/ because MODS are a piece of shit
Truly this is a summer to remember
>>54959629
>gtx 960
in DX11, which is going to be phased out.
>>54963315
desu the 290X fan could go retarded fast
>>54959246
>doppelte Performance per Watt und sie gaben un zweieinhalb mal soviel
Das kann Man nicht sagen bis er mindestes wenige Reviews auf shill-frei Webseiten lesen, obwohl Ich wunsche dass AMD diesmal besser als Nvidia sein wird.
Vergib mir fur meinem schlechtem Deutsch. Ich bin nich Deutsch-masterrace sondern Polnische poorfag.
Go AMD
OP here again
What the fuck is wrong with you people still flaming in a bait thread like that? Pull your shit together /g/, this isn't /v/
>>54960619
This is the best part of any benchmark by AyyMD.
>>54960619
> Bulldozer is known to be shit
> Zen isn't out yet
> HURR AMD USED INTEL CPU
Well colour me surprised.
>>54946603
>six hundred -fucking-dollar
no way, I want my $199 AMD
>>54966774
How embarrassing must it be be forced to use a rival's product because your product is inferior.
>>54966869
Wasn't Bulldozer pretty much just a theory CPU that some nerd crunched the numbers on and nobody bothered the check before it was put into production?
Anyway, it's clear that AMD have been focusing on GPUs recently, and it looks like Zen and Zen+ will be their first DECENT foray into the CPU/APU market in a fair while.
Using a competitor's chip isn't ideal, but it's far better to use a competitor's chip and get good results on your GPU, than use a shitty chip and get bad results on your GPU.
>>54949808
stupid whore apple
>>54966352
This board is more autistic than every other board combined what the fuck did you think would happen?
>>54964106
All those dx11 games that you already own are not going to get updated. Dx11 is going to be relevant for a while unless you don't play games from before your card was launched.
>>54961752
And? They've belonged to a company with chronic bad decision making at every level of management for a decade now.
>>54953564
Thats ASUS tho
290
They slapped an nvidia cooler on it
>>54952425
And yet, nvidia felt the need to cheat by downgrading the graphics through the drivers to deliver higher fps.
>>54968356
>Downgrading
It was a beta driver.
By the way the public driver available for everyone was already out by 3 days by the time AMD made those benchmarks, people on reddit found the AMDreadon test profile on the ashes website.
>>54949749
4xxx cards weren't housefires, they just had shitty coolers. fermi and hawaii were legitimate housefires that drew tons of power under load.
>>54949722
but it isn't a thermal issue, it's a fan profile issue (just look at the fan speed in the OP pic). if you aren't configuring a custom fan profile after installing your new $700 goyim edition 1080 then you deserve to have shitty temps and possible heat death of your card. it's an idiot tax.
