Lets laugh at the idiots who bought the 1080!
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Let's laugh at the idiots who bought 300W AYYMD HOUSEFIRES
UNCOMPETITIVE, IRRELEVANT HOUSEFIRES COMPANY
>crossfire
>>54941175
>Ashes of the Singularity
So they still use this one single game for their marketing? I know there aren't much DX12 games out there yet, but to constantly quote this one benchmark seems silly. Aren't there other benchmarks or other ways to compare performance apart from this one game?
>>54941183
> 300w
Are you so poor that you fret over GPU power consumption?
> housefires
It's called don't buy reference
>>54941175
Tested on the game that nobody plays. That's also the only game where it performs better.
>>54941175
>2 vs 1
are you seriosu?
>2 cards vs 1
AMD, you've officially hit rock bottom
>crossfire
>ashes of the singularity
>using FPS instead of frame times
>crosshit
Enjoy your stuttering and poor scaling and compatibility I guess
>>54941183
>>54941220
>>54941242
I think they're pointing out the two cards are still cheaper than one 1080.
>>54941242
>>54941220
Two cards that, combined, cost $200USD LESS than one 1080.
OH WOW YOU GUYS, A MID-RANGE CARD CAN'T BEAT A HIGH-END CARD, STOP THE FUCKING PRESSES. IN OTHER NEWS, WATER IS WET AND THE SKY IS BLUE, MORE AT 11.
>2 vs 1
b-b- but they are cheaper!
>have to deal with crossfire shit drivers, stuttering
b-b-but you save money!
AYYMADs confirmed dirt poor and desperate
>>54941175
>DX12
>No one Uses DX12
>AYYMD fags on Suicide watch
>>54941270
>>54941282
It means $500 per card, dickheads
>microstutter
I'm all about that AMD desu. Really I am. I'm not stupid enough to fall for this though. Crossfire/SLI is a shit meme for shit dudes. Get one stronger card.
Vega soon™.
>>54941270
The problem is that stutterfire is garbo. Same with SLI.
Multi-GPU will always be garbage and if you're bragging about it, you've already lost.
>>54941298
Confirmed retard.
Pricing for the RX 480 has already been released. It's not $500 per card. Sit on a dick.
>>54941298
Nigga it's not even $500 for both. Why am I taking this bait?
>>54941242
>980ti performance for price of 200$
>480x, 490, 490x yet to come out
The 1080 is yet another overpriced glorified memecard.
>>54941319
> 980Ti for $200
I'm looking forward to the 480, but the 480 equals a 980, not a 980Ti.
>>54941214
>more expensive power supply
>more strain on my UPS
>more cost in electricity (which can be expensive if you don't live in bumfuck; in the New York area a killowatt hour is about 30 cents, meaning a card that uses 300w costs about $16/mo more to use vs. a card that uses 150w)
>this totally ignores that the card uses more power so it puts out more heat, which is then something that you actively have to cool (with air conditioning, incurring even greater electrical cost) or put up with a room that reaches horrible temperatures
>more heat around the other components in your case.
I'm not a nutter who upgrades a component to save 10w and spends $300 to do so annually but power consumption is something I consider when buying components
>two separate cards
>two separate memory PHY
>two separate power phases
>actual power draw per card is 100w
>Crossfire scaling at 183% for the two cards in AoTS
The RX 480 demo wasn't bad, clearly aimed at the Chinese market though. AMD's best selling systems in the region were AM1, and they sold like hotcakes there. A $80 CPU+mobo with a discrete GPU like The RX 480 would be pretty high end for most people there. Showcasing what two value oriented mid range cards can do is basically a realistic sale for the Chinese enthusiasts.
The Vega replacement for Fury is going to be a 200-225w card. Shitpost more, shills.
>>54941344
3DM11 puts it smack dab in between the two cards. If it overclocks well it could easily be 980Ti performance. It is a bit presumptuous, however.
>GTX 1080 180W
>AYYMD HOUSEFIRES 300W
Pretty much irrelevant, uncompetitive company
>>54941314
>>54941316
>>54941319
3 bites
I'm eating well tonight
>>54941373
you're not him
>>54941358
It's largely up to the person.
I live in Australia, I'm not worried about power consumption or heat, and my power supply is fine. I can understand why power draw is taken into account by some people, but completely discounting a part purely BECAUSE of its power draw seems a bit...I dunno...like it's a small thing to draw the line on.
>>54941363
Huh, really? That's pretty cool. I've only heard that it's 980-tier, which is still perfect for me, since I play 1080p@60FPS.
Have you seen the (I think) 480X specs, that have 16GB of HBM2 VRAM?
I'm an AMD fan but there is no way that I even believe that the RX480 is a true match against the 1080.
Keep in mind that the slide shows two RX480's vs just one 1080. I know the cost is less but you're not going to get that performance across all games.
>>54941398
>I live in Australia, I'm not worried about power consumption or heat, and my power supply is fine. I can understand why power draw is taken into account by some people, but completely discounting a part purely BECAUSE of its power draw seems a bit...I dunno...like it's a small thing to draw the line on.
For me in a desktop power draw is not be-all, end-all but in a laptop it would be (the heat is harder to dissipate, meaning higher power draw is really hard on both battery and health of the system).
>>54941405
We've been saying exactly that this whole thread.
>>54941414
For a laptop, sure, but we can't easily swap out the chips in those. Most laptop parts have been picked out for a reason, regarding their heat dissipation capabilities.
>>54941414
Common high end mobile dGPUs hover in the 50-100w range, a binned 480 might even be capable of 75w if the 100w average draw speculation is true
I'm completely unbiased and will buy which ever card is best for my needs. But, not ALL games utilize Ali/crossfire well. This doesn't necessarily mean that having two cards beats one powerhouse card.
>>54941175
>muh gaymes
Fuck off v
>>54941582
> Video games not mentioned
> HA HA VIDEO GAMES
Righto
>>54941582
You're my favorite deputy
>>54941595
Why else would you care about Direct X performance?
HUH WHY?
>>54941597
Just doin my job partner
>>54941582
Hallo mr Maki-fag
>>54941605
>implying a dumb Maki pleb
>>54941604
As a simple measure of how well the card performs?
>>54941595
see this >>54941398
>>54941398
HBM2 is Vega, so that's a 490(X) or whatever succeeds the Fury.
>>54941636
Those are both me, hahah. I was also relating just to the OP when I said >>54941595
>>54941648
Ah, there we go then.
I kind of want a 480, but I'm interested to see Vega and their prices. It's unlikely that Polaris will get a price drop when Vega releases hey? Considering how low it already is.
>>54941310
I agree, it's still marketing. But AMD has always marketed themselves as bang for buck so what can you expect.
>>54941213
They could quote Total War: Warhammer but seeing an R9 Fury X beat the 1080 would be a bit too much boasting even for AMD.
>>54941358
I seriously can't tell if this is bait or not
>thinking GFX cards run at TDP 100% of the time
lets do the math son
16$/0.30 cents thats an increase of approx 53 kWh (assuming the cards run at TDP 100%of the time)
1(kWh)/0.15(Watt) = 6,67 hrs
6,67*53=355,5 HOURS PER MONTH
thats 12 hours per day - again assuming that the card always runs at TDP.
seriously...
I literally know no one who purposefully use an AMD card if they can afford the nVidia equivalent.
>>54941870
Then you most only know idiotic people.
amd has had the price/performance crown for ages now.
(eg.390 vs 970, 380/380x vs 960)
Why are nvidia shills so aggressive in their craft?
I read plenty of shit spewed from AMD shills, too, but there is a certain edge to the nvidia fanboys that borders on desperation
>>54941870
Then you don't belong here. Why your Windows, Nvidia, Microsoft Office, Skype, Discord, Gmail, Adobe*, etc. using ilk hang around here I swear I do not know.
>>54942021
Suppressed rage that only comes from realising they paid 50% more for the similar performance.
mmm
GPU utilization %1%
Yet they need two cards
>>54941175
Lmao Ncucks on suicide watch
mfw
>>54942021
Just tired of being right all the time.
>>54941373
>hehe guys it's bait, i was just pretending to be retarded
>>54941175
>2X RadeonTM RX 480
>2X
every time
>>54942593
still you prefer to pay 200$ in single one right?
typical nvidiot.
>>54941175
On that one fucking game nobody wants
You sure got me op
>>54941175
>2x
>>54942670
>1x costs 200$ more
bravo Nvidia
>having to buy 2 cards
No thanks.
>>54941697
To be fair, thats an extremely CPU-dependant game, and an unoptimized one at that.
>>54942713
But without mGPU issues. Also only retards buy the 1080. I'll buy the 1080Ti or Vega if it can compete. Deliver me some sweet shaders with HBM2 and I get the AMD this time.
one 480 will run literally everything at ultra settings at 1080p and only has one 6 pin connector
1080 has an 8 pin connector.
>2x
Huehuehue
Let me know if AMDGPU-PRO turns out to be worth half a shit
>>54942747
Power connectors literally mean nothing.
>>54941623
In games dipshit, you could test rendering times instead.
>>54942021
They're edgy teens more than likely. Edgy teens tend to go with what is more popular, regardless of what is better. (even though in this case it's Nvidia)
>>54942763
Please god let it be amazing. Take me away from this windows bullshit.
>>54942737
>Only retards buy the 1080, I'll buy the 1080Ti
>Only retards buy the 1080Ti, I'll buy the 1180
>Only retards buy the 1180, I'll buy the 1280
>Only retards buy the 1280, I'll buy the 1290
Do you see the issue here? 1080 isn't a shit card because something slightly better than it will come out later this year in the same way the 980 wasn't shit just because the 980 Ti came out. Also HBM is a meme. Until there is a card that proves it's worth the premium, it's not worth investing in, kind of like how SSDs were insanely expensive and kind of shitty at first. It's not a mature technology.
>Card is not even out so no real benchmarks to back of Pajeets bullshit
>Benchmark used of a game no one even plays
>People on /g/ will blindly believe anything that a marketer tells them
>>54942909
It costs 800 €. The 1080Ti might cost 900 but with 50 % performance increase.
I might give AMD a chance when they deliver equal performance than the 1080Ti. Otherwise I stick with the Nvidia.
>>54941175
top kek, amd cucks even can't even put the correct price of the 1080 on their chart (600$) . Also, keep in mind that the 200$ version of 480 is only 4GB and SLI wont fix that. The 1080 overclocks havent been released yet either.
I'd rather get one working card rather than two fire hazards requiring me to get a bigger PSU and more cooling for the case (furthermore increasing the cost).
Also, when have AMD cards actually worked flawlessly with new games? And then you add the SLI config problems... Nvidia actually disabled more than two way SLI with the new lineup because it was too unstable to work with.
Steam statistics clearly show that 75% of users have Nvidia cards, why would game developers wait with their release for only 1/4th of their possible playerbase.
>>54942970
shit bait
>>54943001
>using facebook memes on 4chan
>>>/reddit/
>>54942897
>AMDGPU-PRO
What is it anon? Please enlighten me.
>>54943026
It's AMD's hybrid open-source/proprietary driver for Linux. Its my hope that this will start the move from windows to linux for AMD. Before this their drivers were shit.
>>54943026
Supposedly the actual working Linux drivers that AMD has been promising for a decade.
Soon™
>>54942030
So, normal people?
>>54943053
Aren't the open source ones better than the proprietary ones right now anyways?
>>54943064
exactly, are you new?
>>54943066
Better? Some games. Actually good? Fuck no.
>>54943102
I would argue that Mesa is better
Nvidia Pros:
Nvidia's card won't burn my house down.
Nvidia's card is a single GPU solution.
Nvidia's card isn't built for poorfags.
Nvidia's card willfully obsoleted it's previous gen cards.
Nvidia's card won't make my multi monitor setup look like shit anymore.
Nvidia's card has proven it's benchmarks through numerous third party verifiers.
Nvidia's card won't cough and die on 4k.
AMD Pros:
AMD's card is for poorfags and kids looking to cash in their good boy points for a better Minecraft experience.
That's all I got.
>>54943053
>>54943058
Vulkan & AMDGPU-PRO
Master, are you saying soon we can be, will be free? Oh how I will weep.
>>54943154
>Pro: Nvidia's card willfully obsoleted it's previous gen cards.
I know this is bait, but how the fuck is that a pro?
>>54943195
sounds like he works for nvidia.
>>54941175
a huge portion of games don't have good crossfire support though
>>54943154
>Nvidia's card won't burn my house down.
>>54943222
Vulkan & DX12 games will and if you say their are not a lot of those games. Well of course not. They are new api's.
>>54943222
or at all :c
>crossfire microstuttering
Nah, I'mma not.
>Nvidia actually disabled more than two way SLI with the new lineup because it was too unstable to work with.
They always limit SLI with their budget cards
>people ACTUALLY fall for the AMD meme
You're taking it too far lads, people are getting hurt
>>54941213
getting game devs to develop their game around your GPU is probably too expensive.
>>54941214
>$700
>Are you so poor that you fret over a bit of money?
You didn't think this through
>>54941263
hooooooooly shit
IT'S OVER
>>54941175
>literally one game tested
K E K
>>54942909
the 980 launch MSRP was $550 and was followed 6 months later by Titan X and 9 months later than the 980 Ti.
the 1080 has a current street price of almost $800, and it's currently believed that Vega and GP104 will exceed its performance by 50% in 6-8 months.
The 1080 is the current king, but its performance advantage and expected longevity don't square with its price.
>>54943541
>game
>>>/v/
>>54943373
> $380 "MSRP"
> $450 real MSRP
> $600 on eBay and virtually unseen anywhere else
> "budget"
POOLARIS IN LOOLARIS
>>54942954
>50% performance increase
Kill yourself my man, are nvidiots really that stupid?
>>54941310
This is a DirectX 12 test. The presence, or absence for that matter, of multiadapter tech like xfire and SLI is completely irrelevant, because the necessary implementation is done by the game/engine devs, not AMD/Nvidia. Any stutters inflicted is basically the game dev's fault, atleast under DX12/Vulkan.
To phrase that a different way, XFire and SLI are only relevant for the older APIs.
>>54944602
How convenient for amd and nvidia. "Pass the buck" move.
>>54941175
>two of our cards are better than one of theirs! buy it!
Well smack flabbity doo I guess I will Mr. Shillingtons.
>>54941175
Literally cucked
>>54944662
It also means the devs that truly care about multiadapter support can do their own, proper implementation that better utilizes the available resources.
>>54944708
>two of our cards are better than one of theirs!
>and its still 200 dollars cheaper!
>>54941263
DELETE THIS
In Ashes, on DX12 mode, multicarding is 2 cards scales on a factor of 1.83; IE an extra 83% performance from the second card.
This is exceptional to DX12. In DX11 games, the scale is closer to 1.2, IE an extra 20% performance for a second card.
Add in AMD cards doing well in DX12, and nvidia cards doing fairly poorly in DX12 and you have an incredibly cherrypicked benchmark.
This is taking 60 barns, shooting at each one, drawing a target around your shots to show how good a shot you are, and then choosing the barn that has the best concentration of shots and only displaying that one to show how good your shooting is.
>>54944748
Actually it shows how thirsty the other cards are - you knock off 100w to cover cpu and other system components it has the fury x only being around 10w thirster than the 980ti. So much for maxwells super low power draw eh?
>>54941175
>pajeets blowing chongs the fuck out
>>54944801
I wouldn't say it's all that biased when you remember that most people don't buy a new GPU every year and games using DX12 are becoming more and more common. Ashes may be a one-off right now, but it won't be that for very long.
Seriously thou, it's DX11 benches that aren't representative rather than DX12 ones.
>>54944801
Some DX11 games see 90%+ crossfire scaling these days.
>>54941175
2 RX280 = 51% usage = 62.5fps , so
1 RX280 = 99% usage = 60.7fps
single RX280 wrecks a GTX1080
>>54941301
This. And I'm a person running Xfire 7950s.
It's a pain in the ass and recently devs have started straight up saying they wont support multi-gpu at all.
>>54943470
You're poor if you do, poor if you don't, it's all just jewish tricks to get you to buy the more expensive thing.
>>54945159
That isn't how they measured it. Some dude from AMD clarified it on the AMD subreddit.
If AMD found someone to really get the drivers working well for multi gpu they cold become dominant in gaming.
>>54943053
>hybrid open-source/proprietary
It's either open or closed, it can't be both.
Show me some good single cards, I don't want to deal with shitty crossfire. I'd rather pay more to get a good single card than to deal with all the crossfire/sli problems.
>>54945402
Thats not how it works at all....
>>54945540
Its a hybrid driver, which means it can have both. Do some research before you comment so you don't sound dumb.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3075837/linux/amds-gaming-optimized-amdgpu-pro-driver-for-linux-is-in-beta.html
>>54945661
So they just renamed `radeon' to `AMDGPU' and `fglrx' to `AMDGPU-PRO'. Got it.
Why are people getting mad and bitching at AMD's marketing bullshit?
Why don't people just wait till the other cards come out and are benchmarked?
Why do AMD and NVIDIA employ shills to sway the opinion of autistic persons on cuckchan?
>>54941213
it's the one game AMD actually has drivers for.
>>54945834
Not really.
"amdgpu" is the kernel driver. It's fully open source, and provides userland drivers direct access to the card.
"AMDGPU-PRO" is AMD's closed source userland driver that provides some optimizations, though it's not intended to be the only userland driver.
The entire point of this exercise is that you can roll with all the benefits of open source drivers for the things that don't need performance, and only load in the closed source driver for when it's absolutely necessary (software compatibility, or needing that extra performance).
That's in contrast to the current scenario, where you have to choose between a driver that does "general computing" well and gaming less so, versus a driver that probably does gaming better, while general computing is of a much lower priority (some glaring inconveniences in nvidia's driver blob comes to mind here).
