>cost to buy windows 10 from microsoft $119
>cost to buy a laptop with windows 10 on it $89
can it not be moved from the cheap computer to a more expensive one and linux put on the cheap computer?
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Windows-10-Home/productID.319937100?icid=All_WindowsCat_0518
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2084336228
>>54933203
Just get it for free by KMS activating a copy of Windows 7 and upgrading it.
>>54933203
Could you not buy Windows 8, install that and upgrade for free?
>>54933203
What version of windows 10 is on the laptop?
I know when I got a netbook years ago, it had a dumbed down versiono f windows 7 witha bunch of functions removed.
I COULDN'T EVEN CHANGE THE BACKGROUND. I had to install a third party fix because I didn't want to put a pirate copy of windows on my brand new netbook for fear of driver compatibility issues.
I was less tech literate then
>paying for windows
>>54933231
>kms instead of daz loader
You should be using a mac. You're a fucking retard.
>>54933231
>>54933238
a clean install is always better than doing an upgrade
i am building a gaming computer and dont have an extra copy of windows 7 or 8.1 to use on it
just wondering if i can use the activation code from the laptop i listed to do a clean install on a new computer then put linux on the laptop this way i am only using win10 one time per key and hey, free little laptop and i save 40bucks
>>54933256
home
>atom processor
Enjoy your limited usage
also this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834315449
>>54933326
save 40bucks and get a little netbook for free
i realize it's just going to be good for web browsing or goofy projects
>>54933289
>upgrade
>media creation tool
>clean install
>automatically activated
>>54933359
i would have to buy win 7 first
>>54933389
No you activate windows 7 let it uograde and like magic you have windows 10 it automatically reactivates
>atom
>DDR2
>60GB HDD
>>54933262
Daz doesn't upgrade most of the time you retard.
>>54933262
...They both work.
What the fuck is up your ass? You don't just call someone a retard for not using the same software you use.
>all these people pushing for op to pirate
OP is trying to save money through legitimate means, you cheap fucks are just stealing.
If you can't afford it, use a free alternative like Linux.
>>54934251
Linux is only free if your time is worthless.
>>54934251
>OP is trying to save money through legitimate means, you cheap fucks are just stealing.
OP here, yes thank you
I am going to have $1500 in this tower by the time I am done, I do not mind paying $120 for the OS, i think that is fair. I am starting to wonder if i really need 10 though, maybe I could just use 7, I just want to game. Does 10 have a higher Directx setting or something?
anyway i am not going to pirate the OS, that's too much trouble. I want a legit copy so if i have issues i will know it's not due to a hacked OS
>>54934265
Except it isn't. I use Ubuntu mate as a daily driver and it works great.
>>54934265
it's not that bad anymore
no good for a gaming rig though
>>54934299
Iirc with w8 you could pull the key from the bios or registry or something, not sure about w10 though.
>$120
You an ausfag?
>>54934319
Yes but you'd assume anyone who can afford a gaming rig would also be able to afford an OS capable of running those games?
>>54934341
>>$120
>You an ausfag?
look at the op link, that's how much M$ wants for a copy of win 10
>>54934341
>Yes but you'd assume anyone who can afford a gaming rig would also be able to afford an OS capable of running those games?
i just wish linux would work for gaming, i genuinely like it better than windows. It's not about the money it's about having to dual boot just to play vidya
>>54934362
Whoops. Yeah it's similar to aus prices.
>>54933203
> Intel Atom 1.6GHz Processor
> 2GB DDR2 Ram
> 60GB Hard Drive
> Intel 945 PM/GS Express Chipset
That this thing can even boot Windows 10 baffles me.
>>54934303
>daily driver
why
>>54934412
Because my pc is cheap and it was free. Works great for my needs too.
>>54934433
Okay but why do you use the term "daily driver"?
>>54934402
>That this thing can even boot Windows 10 baffles me.
hmmm
microsoft lists this as the system requirements for win 10
1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster processor or SoC
RAM:
1 gigabyte (GB) for 32-bit or 2 GB for 64-bit
Hard disk space:
16 GB for 32-bit OS 20 GB for 64-bit OS
Graphics card:
DirectX 9 or later with WDDM 1.0 driver
Display:
800x600
seems kinda like that would be unusable
>>54934299
Harvest the key off a cheap laptop or use this
https://www.reddit.com/r/microsoftsoftwareswap/
>>54934449
Because my computer is my car.
>>54933203
what is grey market goods....
http://www.kinguin.net/category/19429/windows-10-professional-oem-key/
the license sillyness we all know and love is utter bs so just get a cheap copy with buyer protection because in the end the keys sold in asia are dirt cheap compared to those in the developed world
>>54934506
Isn't that just people abusing msdn keys?
>>54933203
No. Windows 10 computers do not come with a CD key, they come with a digital rights activation.
You cannot use it on anything but the original exact motherboard.
But you can upgrade a cracked windows 7, then do a clean install of 10 with no CD key.
The digital rights activation is motherboard bound, which means your new PC is activated with windows 10 forever after an upgrade, even on a clean install.
>>54934537
Harvesting the key off another computer is also abusing the key but OP seems to have no problem with that.
>>54934573
How? Microsoft still got paid for that key.
>>54934591
Key pricing is not different for OEMs? Windows also has different pricing for different screen sizes.
>>54934557
>The digital rights activation is motherboard bound,
wut
>>54933289
That depends. A lot of times nonfree drivers for sound cards and shit come preinstalled for that PC. So no, it might not be compatible with the PC you intend to use Windows on. Not sure how available generic drivers and shit are for Windows though.
>>54934557
>The digital rights activation is motherboard bound, which means your new PC is activated with windows 10 forever after an upgrade, even on a clean install.
>>54933203
Who's she?
>>54933203
>paying for windows in 2016
>implying windows 10 isn't literally free and won't be free for a long time because microsoft wants everyone to use it
>buying a fucking laptop just to get windows off it
>>54933965
Daz has never failed me and I've used it on hundreds of computers.
>>54934299
Win 10 has the newest direct x exclusively.
>>54936314
Fuck. Not the guy you were replying to here btw. I was considering going back to Windows 7 because I am so sick of 10's bloatedness and this is really putting my balls in a vegetable chopper.
Question: If I pirate Windows 7 Ultimate and I take the free upgrade, what version of Windows 10 will I get? I think I'd rather pay than have a Home edition.
>>54936249
>>implying windows 10 isn't literally free
explain to me how it is free when they want $120 for it and i don't have any keys that are not being used for win 7 or 8.1 and im building a computer from parts
how do i legally get it for free?
>>54936314
>Win 10 has the newest direct x exclusively.
shit, i knew that's how they would wind up getting me
>>54936249
You fucking liar
>>54933203
The answer is no. Almost all vendor installs of Windows 10 is done by a hardware key that can't be used on other hardware, nor do they even let you see the key to try.
>>54933203
win7pro key is 20$, upgrade is free (if you really want it)
>>54935745
r8 0/8 gr8 b8 m8
Is everyone here dumb fucking retarded? Why don't you upgrade for free from you Win 7, extract the Win10 key and do a fucking clean install?
>>54937604
>extract the Win10 key
just got a win 10 copy from eBay installed.
$45
simple because of old pirated version got scratched to hell.
>>54936303
>stealing thousands of dollars
>>54938681
yep. feels good.
>>54934303
>daily driver
Give those phones back KFCHD
>>54934251
>legitimate
You can't use an OEM license on another machine.
>>54935844
>she
>>54937604
>extract the Win10 key
That key that you extract is just a generic one which is why everyone that has upgraded has the same product key. Your activation is done via digital entitlement, which is saved on Microsoft's own activation servers.
>>54934537
MSDN keys are pretty greymarket, the micosoft ToS says not to do it, but ToS' pretty much never uphold in court
It's not illegal it's just sketchy
>>54939583
That's why they are being constantly blocked by the activation system.
>>54937604
Windows 10 literally has a clean wipe option in the settings, you don't need to extract the key or do anything fancy
>>54939603
It's a shame, but can't you buy a key for w7, then update it to 10?
>>54939946
Yeah, but once there are any big hardware changes you will lose the activation via digital entitlement. They are rolling out a new hardware hash for this type of activation, to avoid all the misreadings that the current one has, but it will only be adopted after the free upgrade is over.
>>54940065
The "digital entitlement" thing is a new thing from an end-user perspective but it's basically always been how OEM copies work. It's tied to the mobo serials. You'd have to change the mobo to lose your digital entitlement, and then you get on with Pajeet on the product activation line and tell him that your mobo failed and you replaced it with the "closest possible" replacement and he pushes the button to override.
>>54940513
The thing is, digital entitlement doesn't have any way to override the activation since there isn't an OEM product key.
>>54933203
Yes, Microsoft is known for giving out free shit, e.g. Visual Studio etc.
>>54936373
10 Pro
>cost to pirate windows 10
>$0
Why
>>54940790
Thanks.
It's something to consider.
>>54940838
>not paying for the the literally only single one operating system on this planet that it's makers want money for
I guess that's why, you get what you pay for
enjoy your vaas
>>54940958
Well if you're buying a laptop just for the win10 license then microsoft isn't getting any money either.
There's no difference, except to you.
And acer who makes like $2 from your purchase
what about mickey mouse
>>54934378
what vidya do you play?
all source games are compatible with linux and arguably run better.
can't think of any game made in the past 5 years that is worth playing that doesnt run on Linux
>>54941056
Not him, but there's a lot that's worth planning that's a pain to get running. Especially VNs because Japan writes for Windows XP, let alone Linux. For example, I'm trying to get Danganronpa running in Wine right now and it's giving me shit.
>>54941155
Oh, neat. I actually just got it running. Needs Wine 1.9.4 in case anyone cares about that game.
>>54933359
>>54933389
You're both moronic dinosaurs. You can just install 10 using a Windows 7 key nowadays.
>>54941206
>ur a dinosnore xD
kys senpai
>>54933203
>can it not be moved from the cheap computer to a more expensive one and linux put on the cheap computer?
No, the OEM versions of Windows are bound to a single motherboard. You can sometimes purchase an OEM version that hasn't been previously used online at a discount over the regular version.
>>54941155
VN's aren't very resource intensive, you could just run them in a XP VM no?
>>54935745
>mfw I literally "restored to factory" yesterday solving a keyboard issue
>mfw it booted win7
>mfw had to redownload win10
>mfw u wrong
>>54941349
That's what I sometimes end up doing on my desktop. The laptop I'm currently on is pretty much a toaster by today's standards though and would have trouble running one. But its got a wacom digitizer and IPS display, so it's pretty. My other laptop has much nicer hardware, except for the display, which fell for the 1366x768 TN meme. /blog
>>54940702
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/activation-in-windows-10
>If you upgraded to Windows 10 using the free upgrade offer and then made significant hardware changes to your device, such as replacing the motherboard, Windows 10 might no longer be activated. For help on how to activate your device, contact customer support.
They're going to diag off the installation ID history and then assign a new digital entitlement, unless Microsoft is totally retarded and wants to alienate everyone.
>>54941606
At the moment, the customer is pretty much screwed. It may change after the free upgrade is over.
>>54941606
>They're going to diag off the installation ID history and then assign a new digital entitlement, unless Microsoft is totally retarded and wants to alienate everyone.
So is it possible to get a legit version of windows 10 by using a used windows 7/10 key on a completely different pc or not
>>54942570
A Windows 7 key won't generate you a product key that you can use on another computer, and the Windows 10 key is only usable on a single computer. You will need an override to activate it on another computer which means that the first computer will eventually lose its activation.
>>54942590
A windows 7 retail key is portable and will activate on a Windows 10 clean install if the win7 license isn't actively being used on another PC.
>54933203
because free market and consumers will pay what they can bear and 99% of them have no computer literacy
if you can't afford it then move to a place where you can afford the cost of living
Even if you manage to extract the OEM key and activate windows you are breaking the terms and conditions so you're voiding your license.
>>54942590
please note that a mainboard is not a computer
windoze licenses are bound to mainboards
>>54934251
He's being retarded. He can just buy a much cheaper windows 7 key and activate windows 10 with it
>>54942618
It will only activate a Windows 10 install on a single computer. Once you replace the motherboard or the computer, it will no longer work. It will display a message indicating that the product key is already in use, and there is no way to override it.
>>54942889
>It will only activate a Windows 10 install on a single computer. Once you replace the motherboard or the computer, it will no longer work. It will display a message indicating that the product key is already in use, and there is no way to override it.
Yes, correct. Simultaneous use with another computer won't work.
>>54933203
it'd be against the license, so even if you could, it'd be no different to just cracking it
>buy cheap pawn computers for dad and put Fedora linux on them.
It's worked great.
>>54933823
>$89
>>54933203
Get a key from kinguin
>>54933203
Depends on what's more important to you. Time or money
>>54933289
Just torrent the enterprise edition of w10 and write to usb, install from that. Wtf are you doing spending money on windows software?
>sign up for college
>get edu email
>drop classes before paying
>get student discount for windows
