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Previously on: >>54861982

Welcome to /fglt/. We are always open to users of all levels, including absolute beginners.

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1) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full GNU/Linux experience".
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https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux/
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
https://www.gnu.org/
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https://stallman.org/guantanamero.ogg
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Would fedora be good?
regards >>54872880
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>>54872946
just try it
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>>54872946
Fedora has a very interesting stance on free software and the distro is usable as a new user. i think it is not bad. but there are not a lot of users of it that you could ask about distro-specific problems. I'd say give it a try.
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>>54872946
ugly package manager in fedora.
the best for beginner is getoo, it's not kidding
gentoo has very good handbook and it helps to understand linux system
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What's the command the makes sudo insulting your when you typed a wrong password?
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>>54873019
ctrl+D
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>>54872912
>stallman
>windows xp in the background
what universe is this
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>>54873019
http://itsfoss.com/sudo-insult-linux/
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>>54872982
I think yum/dnf looks better than apt or pacman. It is definitely slower though.
>>54872946
Fedora is the best!
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What does /g suggest for AUR management.
Yaourt
packer
baurbill
clyde


The reason i'm asking is that i am getting kernal loading moduel errors for virtualbox-guest-utils. I am running vm so i do need that package right?

I have the error:
virtualbox no kernel 4.5.4-1ARCH headers. you must install them to use DKMS

and found this on arch
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/linux-ck/

for the moment I have uninstalled virtualbox-guest-utils and am running with no errors

So this is now a 2 part question, which AUR manager do you suggest and will the linux-ck help me for virtualbox error, or do I even need vb guest utils?
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>>54873323
I used Yaourt when I had Arch installed. It seemed to get the job done.
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Where can I find reading material to help with i3 ricing?
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>>54873323
pacaur.
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>>54873323
Use apacman if you just want basic functionality
Pacaur if you want to manage abs/local builds
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Just installed gnome

comfy/5
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>>54873505
Google

>>54873723
Go treat yourself to some gnome shell extensions, that'll make it comfier.

https://extensions.gnome.org/
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>>54873773
>google
searx.me
>>54873505
https://i3wm.org/docs/
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>>54873773
nah, extensions just ruin the Gnome Workflow(c) the way the developers intended(tm).
Better to learn the shortcuts and forget you're even using Gnome. I usually just use super+first letters of program I want to start, and super+left/right/up/down for tiling.
No need to ruin the minimalism with a dock or another menu in the top bar.
Although I can understand people who change the GTK theme, it's just not for everyone
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>>54873723
https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/442/drop-down-terminal/
>>54873854
while i agree mostly, this thing just feels so nice to use.
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>>54873854
>not learning shortcuts AND using extensions like dropdown terminal, caffeine, and others
Ok, your loss
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>>54873843
https://github.com/asciimoo/searx/wiki/Searx-instances
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>>54873323

>using so many aur packages that you have to use a "helper"

Let me guess, you install literally everything from the AUR and then complain when it "breaks".
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>>54873868
>>54873875
if I want a dropdown terminal I'll play quake, thank you very much :P
>>54873843
can confirm that searx.me is a great replacement for google.
The best thing is, it doesn't do this thing that google does, which is to guess what you meant. If you search for an unclear term it doesn't attempt to correct your mistake (try searching "turtle kid" on searx and google for an example).
This forces you to actually use it as a search engine and not a personal assistant/AI brain extension.
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>>54873994
>thank you very much :P
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>>54873983
Sup gentoo.
I know its card for you tpo fathom but, some people have lives and can wait 5 hours to update 2 programs.

>helper
Why burden your self checking websites for new versions,getting the new source(alot dont have git repos,so you manually have to download) and having to reconfigure the congi your self.Instead of having one program manage it all
Why would you use emerge then?
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>>54873994
it dosent work in adding it as a search engine
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>>54874147
http://searx.me/about
only works with firefox, it seems
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>>54872912
I have 2 machines of which one is open to the internet
How can I make it so that it redirects all unused ports to the other machine?
without doing a netstat | cut | iptables or something in a for loop
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>his distribution doesn't have a pastebin service
http://paste.debian.net/
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>>54874232
iptables is your ownly option
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Linus Torvalds: The mind behind Linux | TED Talk
http://video.ted.com/talk/stream/2016/None/LinusTorvalds_2016-320k.mp4
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>>54873323
>>54873443
>>54873598

WOoHOo another Arch-Xfce system running:x!

I started to use git and mkpkg, then thought let me try the pacman virtualbox again and then noticed an option for arch, so used that one and seems to work.

>>54873983
No I did not install anything from the aur minimal at moment. what I thought I needed was linux-ck to make virtual box utils run, as I was getting errors. But, corrected them with the right virtual box application for arch. I am sorry I confused you I was just asking what AUR package manager is good to work with AUR's for a noob.

Are there any post install stuff I should do to test:
-install stability
-basic packages

>apacman next

tyvm btw
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>>54872929
As a native Spanish speaker, it is both cute and weird to listen to Stallman singing in spanish

His mention of "Empire" just makes me think of edgy communist college kids though
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>>54872946
Fedora is very nice. It's my favorite, personally.

The main thing will be to fix font rendering which is very easy to do with google. If you need mp3 you will need to get that working too. Other than that it just works. Dnf is a very nice package manager, in my opinion. It handles dependencies much better than apt.
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>>54874252
when I said "netstat | cut | iptables or something in a for loop" I meant something like a for loop to forward all unused ports (and I just now realised how bad of an idea that is)
how do I do this in only iptables and without loops?
there has to be something like a last resort rule or a last layer
google isn't really helping or I just don't know what to search
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>>54874600
>google
>recommends Fedora
Oh boy
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>>54874601
Set up iptables to be a router, and send the traffic to your other machine
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>>54874630
Google is kind of it's own verb now.

I actually use startpage.
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I suggest to download porn allday 24/7. Not even to watch it, it just feels nice to know that porn is flying through the room over wlan, filling the house with your personal feng shui.
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>>54874710
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.en.html#Google
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Moron here.

I have done yaourt unix-runescape-client and built the package.

how the hell do I actually run runescape from here? I'm new to AUR.
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>>54874750
beat me to it.
>Please avoid using the term “google” as a verb, meaning to search for something on the internet. “Google” is just the name of one particular search engine among others. We suggest to use the term “search the web” or (in some contexts) just “search”.
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>>54874750
>>54874840
That whole page is gold.
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Brace yourself, really retarded question incoming.
Feel free to bash me.
If, for example, get banned on 4chan, is there a way to reset my IP, without needing to turn off my modem for 10 minutes, using Linux? If yes, how?
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>>54874764
try 'runscape', or ush completion to find it.
Or read the pkgbuild
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>>54874934
>off your modem
No. Your modem needs to new lease from your ISP's dhcp pool.
Also clear your cookies
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>>54874934
yes
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>>54874934
Maybe.
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>>54874750
>>54874840
I agree with him and I myself lean towards "open source" advocacy rather than "free software" advocacy.

Using brands as verbs is blind consumerism, which I deeply despise
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Does anyone here have used Kali Linux or it's just a meme distro?
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>>54874999
it takes a lot of effort to rid yourself of the habit to say "google it", but it will be worth it when my grandchildren don't roll their eyes how I could make fun of "bing it" and take "google it" seriously
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>>54875017
kali linux is a distro you're supposed to run from a livecd, not install on your machine.
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Hey guys, what's the difference between netctl and Networkmanger?
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>>54875017
It's useful (in a VM or USB stick) if you want to learn about pentesting, but as daily driver - nah.
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>>54875043
man netctl
man Networkmanger
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>>54874949

runscape worked.

I guess I kept doing runescape instead because brains autocomplete everything. Thanks, anon. Time to slack of at work.
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>>54875062
No idea on what you're trying to say..
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>>54874999
>I myself lean towards "open source" advocacy rather than "free software" advocacy.
Are there any particular (popular maybe?) licensed that fit the definition of "open source" but not free software?

Or is it just something a company releasing a product just makes up on the run?
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>>54875085
man man
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>>54875039
>>54875049
Oh okay, got it now.
Is it any useful for "pen testing and ethical hacking" or it's just a meme from a tv series?
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>>54875098
Oh! That makes so much sense now!
...
Someone, please clarify
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>>54875043
netctl is arch linux's own minimal network manager. Networkmanager is the mainline network manager included in most systemd based gnu/linux distros.
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>>54875085
This is not the proper way to display Akari. Please refrain from displaying her in a condesending manner
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>>54875119
It's basically just convenience, all programs Kali comes with work on other distros too.
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This might be in sqt, but i cant find an answer to my question.

I added a HDD to my debian server, installed on sata port 1 (boot is on 0) and power, i can see it as just sdb when using lsblk and it wont show up in either fdisk or cfdisk.

It's brand new out of box, 4 TB.
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Why the applications listed at "autostart" have @ before them?
How do I remove a repository?
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>>54875143
Sorry Oniifam, I didn't know. I never even watched this anime.
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What is a proper replacement for Nautilus that works well in GNOME 3?

I heard pcmanfm, but I was wondering if there were others also
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>>54875176
thunar, gentoo, the fucking terminal
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>>54875167


>>54875155
Are you running them as root?
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>>54874077

I'm using Arch and not Gentoo myself. Keeping a directory with your own PKGBUILDs and just occasionally running "makepkg" in them is simple enough.
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>>54875119
It's useful for sure. It exists as a separate distro because some pentesting software has unnecessary complex ways of updating.

So kali devs just throw it all together on a stable and working base system (debian iirc) and release updated ISOs.

You burn a new ISO (and by that upgrade the whole system) once the old becomes so outdated you can't comfortably use it.

Kali Linux has a stigma of being a distro of choice of various skids.
I'd say the edgy dragon logo contributed to it a lot.

If you want distro with similar purpose that's sounds a lot less edgy, there's always the "security labs" spinoff of Fedora.
But even then it's devs advice to use it from a LiveUSB and not as a regular installation.
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>>54875194
>>54875155
>4tb
Make sure you have a GPT partition table
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>>54875176
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications#File_managers
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>>54874659
But how can I get it to only redirect the traffic that can't be accepted on the current machine?
it should only redirect traffic to ports that can't be accepted
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>>54875216
>simple enough
They arent updated,unless you manually update them your self, grabbing the entire updated source to then build, unless its a git/svn/bzr.This is the whole point of AUR.

Sure make a git pull script that loops for every dir and pkgbuild them to a seperate folder then then just update from that folder.
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>>54875176
spacefm
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>>54875176
>proper replacement for Nautilus
None.
Nautilus handles a lot of the functionalities of Gnome.
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>>54875043

NetworkManager has a qter CLI.
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>>54875264
>cant be accepted
Tell your program to uses ports manually,and then if it dosent use those ports redirect it to the second host.
Read the iptables wiki.
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>>54875194
yeah with sudo,

seems like i were retared, lsblk -p shoed /dev/sdb, i did a partition and set it up as ext4.
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>>54875176

Nemo is Nautilus with more features.
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>>54875254
Thanks for your deep answer anon, I appreciate it.
I just wanted to use it to test if my home network is safe and to get more info about security.
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When will you people grow out of graphical file managers?
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>>54875366
When i dont feel like typing 50 commanes with 20 switches each, to duplicate 2 clicks of a mouse
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>>54875254
Our just add kali repos to debian. :^)
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>>54872946
using phresh Fedora 23 install on an old vista machine I had, no complaints so far.

It was this or Ubuntu Gnome and I hadn't tried Fedora until now, it just werks.
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>>54875397
>:^)
the mark of a /v/edditor
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>>54875323
Which one is easier to use?
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>>54875366
I use both. I used to use a minimal system with just a window manager and no file manager, and it was fine. But now I just use default Fedora instead. Depends on what I want to do. For most things I use the terminal, but if I want to move a bunch of folders at once nautilus is the better choice. Just drag and drop.
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What is a good, secure browser to use? I've been using chromium for a while, and it just seems a little too willing to give up information to jewgle.

I've been thinking about either iceweasel or brave, are they any good or are there better choices out there?
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>>54876012
Firefox is fairly privacy oriented. Luakit and uzbl would probably fit what you want if you don't mind keyboard only operation, and having to write all extensions yourself.
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Been trying to solve this for a week.
I've gone down 10 pages searching for this shit.

Running 'ufw enable' as sudo and root, errors out with the below.
I have not changed any config files, at all. This is ran directly after installing.
ERROR: problem running ufw-init
iptables-restore: line 4 failed
iptables-restore: line 77 failed
iptables-restore: line 30 failed
iptables-restore: line 45 failed

Problem running '/etc/ufw/before.rules'
Problem running '/etc/ufw/after.rules'
Problem running '/etc/ufw/user.rules'
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>>54876012
GNU Icecat.
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>>54873076
Lol I just broke sudo
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>>54876049
>Firefox
>Privacy
kek
https://gist.github.com/haasn/69e19fc2fe0e25f3cff5
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>>54876049
>>54876238
I'll check those out, thanks. I always though firefox based browsers weren't as reliable as others, I guess that's not the case tho
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Explain LaTeX to me, /fglt/. Do you need the core program and an editor to use it? If so, could you recommend one?

Thanks.
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>>54874840
>>54874895

“PC”

>It's OK to use the abbreviation “PC” to refer to a certain kind of computer hardware, but please don't use it with the implication that the computer is running Microsoft Windows. If you install GNU/Linux on the same computer, it is still a PC.

>The term “WC” has been suggested for a computer running Windows.
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>>54876381
I've written a few reports with it, from what I understand you install Tex and an editor, but as it's a dependency it gets installed with the editor.
I would recommend TexStudio.
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How do I disable LibreJS? It doesn't show up in my Addons list.
I just want to login to and download some games from GOG ;_;
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So in arch can i do this to get a tar and install

git https://...tar.xy | makepkg -si

I only have git at the moment
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>>54876403
PC=Pleeb Cuck
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>>54876465
Why do you think that would work? You need to write a pkgbuild.
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Is stallman not rich?
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>>54876516
He is a bum and dosent do anything.
Of course he is. He siphons donations to provide him with enough ramen to last a month
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>>54876498
technically you dont have to write a pkgbuild.
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>>54876536
Why wouldnt you?
Even in other distros, you create a file that the package manager can use so it isnt laying around not managed, causing dep issues
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>>54876403
top banter
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>>54876557
i was implying that you dont have to use makepkg and pacman.
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>>54876582
so your saying git alone can download and install tar.xy
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>>54876582
You're implying shit,

>makpkg
So you're not going to create a pckage you can use?
>pacman
Why do package mangers exist then?

>pathetic attempt at devils advocate.
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So I'm trying to do Linux from Scratch and I'm running into an issue when I try to compile the first package
[lfs@laptop build]$ ../configure --prefix=/tools --with-sysroot=$LFS --with-lib-path=/tools/lib --target=$LFS_TGT --disable-nls --disable-werror
configure: WARNING: you should use --build, --host, --target
configure: WARNING: you should use --build, --host, --target
configure: WARNING: invalid host type: GNU/Linux-lfs-linux-gnu
checking build system type... Invalid configuration `laptop': machine `laptop' not recognized
configure: error: /bin/sh ../config.sub laptop failed

I'm following the guide exactly and can't find the error anywhere on the Internet so I'm really not sure what to do. laptop is my hostname, as you can probably tell
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ok shitting and install gentoo aside.
What is the best 3 distros to try as a new player in your opinion.
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>>54876611
shitmon testy question i see...

>can i do this: git https://...tar.xy | makepkg -si

$20 on having to create pckage
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>>54876611
>>54876628
man make
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>>54876662
Xubuntu
Kubuntu
Mint
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>>54876516
I recall reading about Stallman being awarded two large sums of money (one from some japanese fund/company iirc).

They summed up to something like 1,5+ million dollars, but I might be wrong

So considering the fact that he's a president of the FSF (which gets donations) and his ascetic lifestyle (he uses a 60 USD chinkpad and most of his expenses would be travels, but they're probably covered by whoever invites him to make a speech)

...You could assume he's rich.
Not megacorp-exec tier rich but he for sure has enough money to spread his philosophy till his death.
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>>54876720
How is he in person?
Why does he choose to be a GNU priest bum lord?
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>>54875043
>>54875582
Can someone confirm which one has an easier configiartion experience with in CLI? netctl or networkmanager?
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>>54876746
I haven't met him personally and the one time he did a speech in my country I couldn't be there but I've heard he's a genuinely nice person.
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I'm currently tunneling x11vnc through ssh on my server, but the quality is pretty shit and the connection drops whenever ssh shits the bed. Can anyone recommend me a better solution? AND please be a solution that you've used before and had success, I've tried setting up xrdp and x2go and both would not work properly.

In lieu of that, is there a way to force the server or client to keep the ssh alive so the vnc session doesn't quit whenever there is a hiccup in the connection?
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>>54876779
So is he a documented genius?
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>>54876831
>is stallman a genius?

He's an elite programmer based on the GNU stuff but he obviously prefers philosophy
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>>54876675
Make does not package your build environment in to a usable package for installation with a package manager

Go back home to gentoo land lad
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How do I control the fan profile on my nvidia card?
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>>54876720
http://gng.z505.com/cult.htm

Check the financing
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>>54876792
>keep alive
Set no timeout on your sshd server
>connection lost
No
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>>54876905
>nvidia-settings
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>>54876917
>>>/busybox/out
with your bullshit website and shitty troll attempts
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>>54876858
>>54876675

Well for sake of argument. I tried the AUR I got signature error. I kinda remember a lot of problems trying to download tor-bundle once before.


So per these instructions. idk if this was the right way to install or not.

Linux downloading and untarring in one step
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/uncategorized/linux-quicktip-downloading-and-un-tarring-in-one-step/


so im doing:
wget https://www.torproject.org/dist/torbrowser/6.0/tor-browser-linux32-6.0_en-US.tar.xz

tar xvzf tor-browser-linux32-6.0_en-US.tar.gz

rm tor-browser-linux32-6.0_en-US.tar.gz

from within >builds>tor
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>>54876658
nvm figured it out, i had $LFS_TGT set wrong
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Hey /g/
having a problem with my PS1
PS1='\n \[\033[32;6m\w\033[0m \033[34;6m»\033[m\] '


I hit the up arrow to display previous command
then I hit the down arrow to clear my prompt but it clears a part of my PS1 too

see pic related
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>>54877041
just open it in an archive manager if you aren't comfortable with the terminal

then just run in the install script
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>>54877084
whats a good archive manager u suggest?
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>>54877076
Get a Playstation 2 then.
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>>54877076
webm related too

>>54877100
kek
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>>54877084
>>54877099

gonna try PKGBUILD
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>>54877041
>signature
You dont have a keyring.

>tor
The file you linked is a stand alone version of the tor browser, made for portabilty. You can use that by its self.

Try harder.
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>>54876917
Yeah I know. That's one of the sources I know about FSF financing. But the data is from 15 years ago I think that with the release of GPLv3 they've been falling out of favour. For some reason corporations aren't very comfortable with their anti tivoization clause.


For the last 3 decades or more FSF's work revolves primarily about dealing with licence violations.
Read about FSF vs Cisco case and with Cisco being a part of the american military-industrial complex I can imagine it takes lawyers to deal with stuff like that.

What else of value can FSF produce other than lawyers specialized in licence violations?
You write an article once and you're done with it.

https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-violation.en.html
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This is what GOG looks like when I open it up in IceCat. I can't log in. I can't view my library.
I can log into login.gog.com but the main site doesn't seem to recognize this as games I already own are still presented as if I didn't.
How to fix? pls respond
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>>54877134
nigga back up

what exactly are you trying to do

there's no way a novice should be fucking around with PKGBUILD
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>>54877145
They have 'won' 3 cases. They only settled to shut stallman the fuck up.
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>>54877152
Also IceCat plugins. Note: No LibreJS

Using Xubuntu 14.04.
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>>54877152
are you using any noscript/ad-blocking extensions?
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>>54877134
>>54877136


k holding and reading
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>>54877156
>download archive
>type makpkg
>pacakge is made
>install package.
Thats hard?
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>>54877169
Well hurr fucking durr, that did it. uBlock never gave me any trouble in that regard. Thank you, I'm a retard.
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>>54877168
it's either httpseverywhere or spyblock that's causing it

or possibly greasemonkey depending on what user scripts you're running

first rule of browser troubleshooting is DISABLE EXTENSIONS
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>>54877190
>>54877134

No, he should be installing it from the AUR
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>>54877208
>dosent want to use aur
>download package from aur
>open it
>makepkg
>install
Go back to ubuntu
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>>54877219
>dosent want to use aur
>download package from aur

this is moronic
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>>54877165
So?

Do you think it's easy to prove a licence violation when the institution doing the violation of a GPL code KNOWS about GPL and will do it's best to make sure noone files a case or possibily win one?

Get a grip man, if you think FSF's lawyers do not deserve the truckloads of dosh they get for waiting for someone to report a violation just don't donate.

It's a foundation, not an executive branch of US government funded by your taxes.
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>>54877219

I tried the AUR I got signature error.

advised
>You dont have a keyring.
beyond noob scope.

so thought I could download straight from torproject and install.

still holding and looking more into tor keyring

beyond noob scope.
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>>54872912
Anyone else here using ubuntu 16.04? The sound on my dell latitude e5450 is fucked up. Each time the speakers start playing a sound it makes a huge cracking noise and then it proceeds to play the sound normally.

Didn't happen under 14.04.
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>>54877076
>>54877121
bump
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>>54877291
what's your audio chain?
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>>54877244
Stallman just wants his agenda pushed.
That
Is
All
There
Is
To
It


>fsf
>lawyers
This is more pathetic then a country boy nigger thinking his life matters as he swipes shit out of the outhouses.

They are all pathetic uneducated swine, who were brain washed in to beliveing stallmans koolaid

GPL has no place in this world, it is more restrictive then ANY OTHER LICENSE

>your taxes
>FSF isa 501(c)(3) non-profit organization
They are a non profit tax-exempt.
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>>54877303
What exactly do you mean?
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>>54877356
Why does the >> disappear after pressing up arrow
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>>54877356
meant for
>>54877306

>>54877370
sorry
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>>54877306
player, mixer (jack/pulse), alsa, hardware?
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How does Stallman make money?
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>>54877442
carefully
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>>54877442
donations and going to community colleges to beg for money
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>>54877342
>agenda
>pathetic then a country boy nigger
>They are all pathetic uneducated swine, who were brain washed
>GPL has no place in this world, it is more restrictive then ANY OTHER LICENSE
Are you capable of engaging in a meaningful discussion without resorting to regurgitated memes about how much FSF merely existing hurts your feefees and how GPL threatens your freedom to restrict rights of other people?


>They are a non profit tax-exempt.
How them getting a tax exemption equals your taxes being used to finance them?
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>>54877442
Presidency in the FSF, speeches etc
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>>54877465
>meme
Throw more buzzwords out
>meaningful discussion
>brings up memes
Yeah
No.

If you'd like to try again, I'll read it.

>gpl
It restricts my freedom to control how my software is handled, the one that i have spent thousands of late night hours. And some uneduated disgusting, peophile, shit eating psycho, is some how in a better position then i am?

GPL:
Get cucked harder
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I'm on xubuntu 15.04 and every time I turn on kate after a couple of minutes it infornms me that kactivitymanagerd has stopped working. The weird thing is that it seems that nothing is affected by this, even though the prompt looks serious enough. Heck, not even googling the problem yields anything.
Anyone else has this happen to them?
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>>54877520
you have the freedom to put your software under any license you want. If you disagree with the GPL you have every right not to use it.

Are you going to respond to this or are you going to troll some more?
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>>54877396
Hardware

Karte 0: HDMI [HDA Intel HDMI], Gerät 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
Sub-Geräte: 1/1
Sub-Gerät #0: subdevice #0
Karte 0: HDMI [HDA Intel HDMI], Gerät 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1]
Sub-Geräte: 1/1
Sub-Gerät #0: subdevice #0
Karte 0: HDMI [HDA Intel HDMI], Gerät 8: HDMI 2 [HDMI 2]
Sub-Geräte: 1/1
Sub-Gerät #0: subdevice #0
Karte 1: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], Gerät 0: ALC3235 Analog [ALC3235 Analog]
Sub-Geräte: 1/1
Sub-Gerät #0: subdevice #0

ALSA is installed version

Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version k4.4.0-22-generic.

Oddly enough that cracking sound doesn't happen when I use the regular player (rythmbox). Only happens with systemsounds or youtube for example.
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>>54877520
>uneducated
>disgusting
>peophile
>shit eating psycho
>cuck
Great to see my point you ineptly tried to refute still stand
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Currently on Debian, my wifi X220 and the drivers work.. it's detecting all accesses points, but still I connect to anything.

It gives me this error:
 No network with SSID 'x' found 


I'm typed everything correctly. What could be the problem?
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>>54877601
im noob but will take a shot at this one.

can u ping -c 3 google.com

did you copy one of the example ethernet/adapter files over and edit?
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>>54877657
No, I cannot ping to google.com when on wlan.
>did you copy one of the example ethernet/adapter files over and edit?
I don't know what you mean by this.
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>>54877588
>Still cannot create a worthwhile retort
https://stallman.org/archives/2012-nov-feb.html#04_January_2013_(Pedophilia)
https://stallman.org/archives/2012-nov-feb.html#15_November_2012_(New_Russian_censorship_law)
http://www.art.net/Studios/Hackers/Hopkins/Don/text/rms-vs-doctor.html
https://stallman.org/archives/2003-may-aug.html
28 June 2003 (Necophillia)
>>
Should I go with Debian as my first distro? I've played with Ubuntu in a VM before but I'd rather use something else and Debian seems like a good choice.
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>>54877601
I am assuming you replaced the SSID with 'x' yourself?

Why not use networkmanager by the way?

Anyway:
wpa_supplicant -D nl80211,wext -i wlan0 -c <(wpa_passphrase "your_SSID" "your_key")

Not really sure why you would do it like that though.
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>>54877756
Debian is nice.
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>>54877560
if you're not using pulse then it's probably the program taking over the alsa interface

I'd recommend installing pulse, especially if you are playing music from a variety of programs
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>>54877121
>>54877076
Bump
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>>54877717
ok when i had to setup arch i had to copy an example ethernet-dhcp and edit that example
this is for arch not sure but may shed some light

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/netctl
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>>54877756
Top consumer distro's are Ubuntu and Fedora, I'd wager.
Both use either Gnome or a Gnome spinoff by default, so you might be interested in trying KDE too.
In which case perhaps Kubuntu or the KDE spin of Fedora?

If you're on Windows, then I'd suggest using Rufus to keep restoring a different live image on a USB stick, then boot up to the live environment. Have a feel around, see if you like it.
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>>54877796
Hmh, I do have pulseaudio installed. It comes with ubuntu 16.04. Dunno why this is happening. Must be a problem with ubuntu itself since the last lts version had no issues with sound. maybe they'll fix it in the future
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>>54877807
I'm using networkmanager, how do I call upon the netctl package on debain? Because when installing NM I didn't see anything like you're describing. Or maybe I just missed it
>>
I'm trying to use this on my .vimrc

" View PDF macro; '%:r' is current file's root (base) name.
nnoremap <leader>v :!mupdf %:r.pdf &<CR><CR>


but I don't understand this part
>'%:r' is current file's root (base) name

What does it means? It gives me an error when I hit \v

Thanks.
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>>54875136
he's giving you commands to write into a terminal silly (please look up what 'man' is, not knowing will give you a hard time using linux)
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>>54877726
>https://stallman.org/archives/2012-nov-feb.html#15_November_2012_(New_Russian_censorship_law)
>stallman literally defendinga russian imageboard and lurkmoar
how based can one man be?
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>>54876103
Just learn nftables.
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>>54877859
you could try this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#Glitches.2C_skips_or_crackling

I know some programs will play a few milliseconds of silence in order to prevent pops like this and there are a plethora of ways to get around it. I'd try the tsched=0 setting above first though.
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>>54877871
The new Russian censorship law, supposedly intended to block sites relating to drugs, <suicide> and <pedophilia>, has already been <used against political criticism>

This is a <world-wide tendency>, and shows why any <censorship of the Internet is intolerable>


He is approving pedophila, suicide,drugs.
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>>54877860
hi noob here, yeah no clue beyond arch at the moment of this response kek
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>>54877917
nftables never caught on, and there is little documentation. Regardless.
ufw
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>>54877726
What you failed to understand is that I was perfectly aware what articles you referred to when regurgitating your memes and you having saved links to every single one of them to make posting them convenient doesn't make up for the lack of argumentation.

And yet again you failed to form a a valid argument.
You constantly shift between "FSF is a cashgrab!" and "GPL restricts my freedoms to limit rights of others!" and "Well RMS is a weirdo just look at the completely unrelated to the licensing business stuff he wrote, nasal sex with dead plants?, OMG".


What I fail to understand Is what motivates you to doing this over and over and over and over again every day in every thread.
I mean it's not like groups antagonized to RMS/FSF/GPL don't have their own little places to cirklejerk right?


Seeing that discussion with you always results in bunch of strawmans and ad hominems being addressed at anyone trying to enage in a discussion with you I will not reply to your next post.
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>>54877947
Good luck with that.
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>>54877925
That looks promising, I'll give it a try, thanks.
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Anyone here using ranger file manager?

Is there a way to use it as file picker?
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>>54877992
kek no, of course not.
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Anyone know some beauty themes for KDE?
Breeze is really nice, but i want something new.
Icons are welcome, too.
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>>54877928
>has already been <used against political criticism>
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>>54878005
*of course* not? that's discouraging. why so?
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>>54878062
the graphical toolkit that the application you want to use (web browser i assume) was compiled with determines what filepicker it will use
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I'm downloading Ubuntu to a usb for live boot to verify that my Sata connection isn't fucked up. What am I in for? Never used Linux before.

I've heard you have to install wireless drivers and stuff manually. Or does ubunutu come with some basic ones pre-installed? I'm currently using a PCIE wifi receiver because I can't use ethernet until I move out of current living space.
>>
What should i install on my T410s, would love to have drivers for the fingerprint reader and the touch screen.
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>>54877950
>Being this retarded
>not knowing what Anonymous is
>thinking 1 person is posting 24/7
Kekist of KEKS

>meme
You're posting the same meme's every stallmanist posts.
Stop hitting your self.
Stop hitting your self.

>valid argument
Stallamen is a mooching peice of shit, that contributes nothing to society, and wants to piggy back on Linus' accomplishments instead of going foreward and creating something new.
What else has he done in his life, outside of GPL?
He has no claim to fame outside of a heavily restricting license
>but but but you're restricting MUH RITS
They have the right to not use my software.Not the other way around.GPL is FORCING people to blindly fall for the gpl, and not understand what it actually means in the end of the day. All because it gets fame from the stallmanists and hey, all these devs are pretty cool guy,and dosent afraid of anything, why would i question the writers of so many programs that i use?
KOOLAID

>unrelated
I personally dont want anything to do with a pedo and i will never use GPL as it is a risk to my wellbeing. It does matter what he does out side of GPL.He is the for front of GPL and FSF.
Why do your think politicas dont publiy show off their whores they are fucking behind partners back?
>right of others
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>>54877980
>friendly
>use this other software that is not what i posted.
>oh but hey its not even used at all, and has no docs
>oh good luck
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>>54878084
hmmm
yeah, web browser. would it be possible if I compiled the browser from source, something simple like say, Surf?
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So, I'm thinking of installing a patched kernel. -ck and -zen seem promising. Which one is better? -ck seems more popular.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Linux-ck
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel/Overview#zen-sources
Are there any benchmarks on Zen performance? -ck is 2-8% performance increase
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>>54878055
Take a gander at this my faggot
>against criticism
They did CENSORED despite the public and goverment outcry
Stallman is against what the law is going to censor,including pedophillia.
Stallman supports pedophillia in his private house and on the internet.

This is not a man i want to follow.

>reading comprehension
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>>54878118
>>54878118
Also it has SSD, if that has any meaning in choosing distro.

would like it to be secure and have some tools for networking included(maybe some wifi cracking and such)
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>>54876103

Which distribution?
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>>54876103
Have you checked the mentioned lines in those files? Do any of the rules expect xtables to be installed? (xtables is a package of iptables extensions, like conntrack etc)
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>>54878182
Arch

>>54878194
All that is in that file is rules, and the mentioned lines, are just standard rules it looks like
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>>54877136
ok back on AUR tor

error: Failed (unknown public key 2E1AC68ED40814EO)
=>ERROR: One or more PGP signatures could not be verified

was advised
>You dont have a keyring.

if i do this will it make the public keyring known?
gpg --recv-keys 2E1AC68ED40814E0
makepkg -sci


I also read that i could skip
makepkg -s --skippgpcheck

is this ok if i can do public keyring on a aur package?
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>>54878156
Using zen for a while, it's in the stable repo. I don't gave any issues. The performance improvement is not noticeable though
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>>54878213
Post one of the problem ones; or try to run just problem line and post the error.
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>>54876463
If you can post here and 4chan doesn't look wierd, libreJS isnt installed. Try switching off https everywhere? Good luck bro.
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>>54878138
The ufw docs can't be that good either if you've been bothering this thread with your problems for a week.
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>>54878220
What features besides scheduler?
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>>54876535
He isn't. All the money goes to the FSF.
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>>54878215
>pgp
pacman-key --init

>tor,aur
Tor is provided in the Community repo provided by Arch devs. If you are using the 'tor' package a,and no other named pacakges
>keyring
Most pacakges will have a signature that you can accept or not. Aswell as packages in aur.
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>>54877076
Check the last thread. 5 people answered you already.
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>>54878236
https://liquorix.net/
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>>54878225
before.rules
http://pastebin.ca/3615955
after.rules
http://pastebin.ca/3615957
user.rules
http://pastebin.ca/index.php

>>54878229
Fuck ton better then nftables
There is nothing in the docs with this error,as it isnt an intended issue, why would they not supply an answer in their man page,,or even better yet, fix it, if it was working properly?
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>>54878213

I'm on Arch and it works flawlessly. You probably fucked something up on your own. Stock kernel, stock ufw, no additional tweaks apart from installing ufw, enabling it, enabling the systemd service and using it.
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>>54878148
modifying the program won't help (unless the modification involves porting it to another toolkit)
the file picker is a function of the gui toolkit, so you'd need to modify THAT to change it
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>>54878335

Why are you bothering with those files? Don't edit them manually, use ufw's commands to add rules. If you want to manually edit them, use standard iptables instead.
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>>54878259
k it worked
slowly but surely learning... slooooowwwwlllyyy lol
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Fedora vs Debian sid?

Was looking for a rolling release really. Don't care too much about how free/open source software is treated. Just want a stable, up-to-date experience.
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>>54878407
sid is not stable

fedora is not rolling release

generally speaking, rolling release and stable are mutually exclusive

I would go with fedora as it is close to upstream, but still vetted, and easy to upgrade in-place between versions
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>>54878448
Yeah I knew fedora wasn't rolling, but afaik it's fairly up to date in most area.

Fedora sounds fine then, thanks.
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Using Rufus to install Untuntu to a USB drive which is fresh out of the box from Windows. Any idea why this isn't working? Log is in pic related.
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>>54878345
Fatal errors are resolved commenting those modules out,as well as ipv6,but for the sake of diag i didnt edit it
>>54878359
I'm not
Those are the STOCK rules from installing it.
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>>54878476
the error is right there...you have the iso stored on the USB you are trying to flash it to
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But please DON'T make a hotel reservation until we have fully explored
other options. If there is anyone who wants to offer a spare couch, I
would much rather stay there than in a hotel (provided I have a door I
can close, in order to have some privacy). Staying with someone is
more fun for me than a hotel, and it would also save you money.
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>>54878482

>-ck

Are you running the -ck kernel? That might be your problem.
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Arch-Tor-Browser is Running!

now to install base TOR/iptables for all connections made...

From what I understand iptables are a firewall and arch already has default firewall. So, do I need tor iptables also?
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>>54878498
I thought it was supposed to be on the drive itself. Now I see why that's dumb. Thank you! Helped a lot.
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>>54878567
I am.It's not.
>bu bu bu its not working
Any program can work on any kernel. as well as amy distro,provided it is made for that arch.
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>>54878356
fucking hell
guess I'll have to stay with ol' thunar
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>>54878547
let me guess >docotrs>privacy>hotels

You got a "track" record m8?
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>>54878547
Btw, he mentions multiple times that the FSF actually doesn't pay his travels, etc. People send him a ticket and he jumps into the train/plane.

This is maybe the goldest gold here:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ddol/rre-rms/master/rider.txt
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>>54878578
You dont want tor browser to firewall all your connectiosn through that proxy.
Tor browser is a self contained version, with extra security featurs,such as a more stable lond term support firefox.If your goal is to torify your entire network. Dont use the browser version

Look up tor chroot then chain it in to polipo
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Was learning about links and regular non sybolic links work only in the same file system. Type df into ubuntu and see a bunch of different file systems. Why is my one laptop divided into so many systems? udev /dev/sda1 /dev/sda5 and 5 different tmpfs.
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>>54878612
exactly i want to torify my system so i can use say irssi chat.

on hold and learning this
>Look up tor chroot then chain it in to polipo

ty all btw
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>>54877782
I did place the X, because I didn't want to add the name of my wifi so I used 'x'
I am using Networkmanager

I would try what you put.
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I know this isnt exactly linux related, but i dont' want to open a thread for it.
Can anyone explain me how an ethernet cable with 4 or 8 pins work?
I am aware that the pins are divided in couples, nothing else.
Thank you.
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>>54878588

>output complaining about modules missing
>says it's not related to his kernel, which might not have enabled those

Either way, have fun troubleshooting it.
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>>54878740

Why are you using wpa_supplicant directly if you have Network Manager installed and got it working? Use either its CLI, TUI or GUI to connect to your network.
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>>54878741
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iSC9yXxVVc
/sqt/ next time
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>>54878741

The couples are kind of interesting. They are refereed to as twisted pairs. Essentially any current creates a magnetic field and by twisting them around the two and sending a matching current in the other twisted pair the effects of the fields counter each other.

You need to read wikipedia for a start. The NIC probably breaks everything up into packets and sends them when it can to be reformed on the other side.
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>>54878809
I initially tried the CLI, but it still won't connect as it gives me this error: >>54877601
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>>54878860
ty
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