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It's Ogre
>>54859938
Poorfag
>>54859938
>needing two cards to beat one card
>>54859938
power per fps?
>>54859971
>tfw AMD will let you cum inside akreen through VR
>meanwhile nvidia still shitting themselves after people findout they have no hardware async
kek
>AYYMD 300W HOUSEFIRES
>NVIDIA 180W
AYYMD, NOT EVEN ONCE
>>54859947
Haha, i'm sorry man. But if your only rebuttal to these results are that i'm supposed to be a poorfag for buying two 480's instead of a 1080 now you're literally fucking retarded.
>>54859938
Why are we still discussing this
Instead of laughing at the fact that it's AMD's turn to have a 480
2.8x perf per watt
r9 380 is 190w
Rx480 is 150w
It will be 2.8 x (150/190) = 2.2 faster
However there are architectural changes so performance in games might not scale in a linear fashion when comparing to the 300 series. Also I expect it to be near 1070 performance, maybe 5-10 % less. The 1070 will be worthless.
>>54860027
It's time to abandon nvidia (I currently own an nvidia card btw).
>>54860073
You can go and fuck yourself, no one will care
AYYMD is irrelevant and it shows
>>54859938
>same power draw
>$200 less
>only 51% used
>still beats the gtx meme80
RIP nvidia
>>54860096
oooo u mad
>>54860096
hey shitlord
this >>54859938 makes AMD seem pretty relevant to me
>>54860096
>AYYMD
Stop trying to force this maymay, you've been at it the whole day, do you have nothing better to do cunt?
>>54860096
So this is your justification for letting nvidia cuck you out of your money? k well I'm gonna buy a pair of 480 cards when they come out
>>54859971
It's always performance for price, checks and balances m80. But still, you might get more performance for less money but the downside is that you use an additional PCI slot and heat rises and more energy is needed.
AYYMD needs 300W to compete with Nvidia 180W card
Pretty much irrelevant and only losers will do desperate things
Nvidia won, far more power efficient and will outsell AYYMD garbage
>>54859971
>need two mid end cards to beat Nvidia's most powerful VGA in history
Two 280s couldn't beat the 980.
>>54860138
see >>54860073
nvidia lied about power consumption. Max power consumption is like 450 watts.
>>54860114
> This impartial and totally unbiased bar chart
I always wonder how many of the people saying 'AMD poorfag' actually have the money to buy any graphics card at all. NEET basement dwellers don't normally have much cash to burn
>>54860138
Not necessarily.
>>54859971
having to pay less to beat the more expensive card
>>54860138
>implying anyone buying gaymer cards gives a fuck about power efficiency
>>54860159
>system power consumption
isn't that like cpu+mobo+gpu+...?
>>54859938
>mfw watching nvidia fuckboys lose their shit
>>54860143
280 CF beats 780
380 CF beats 980
480 CF beats 1080
At least compare cards of the same generation
>>54860143
>mentions old 280
>ignores the current 480
>yfw gets ass blasted by amd for less then half the cost
>>54860284
Difference being is that a single 1080 is far more expensive than two 480s.
>>54860242
Nope, just the GPU. The gtx 1080 is a little bit better (like 20%) but it's a fermi 2.0 housefire as well.
>>54860311
Yeah, it's always been like that, nothing new to see here
AMD: Look at all this headroom for improvement, its not because we suck or are rushed or behind promise :3
Nvidia: The way it's meant to be played.
>>54860372
:::::::::::3333333333333
>>54860372
Could you fuck off tripfag? You're always skulking around here trying to shill your heart out and going on damage control as soon as anyone calls you out
>>54860323
Lying is bad, don't do that
>>54860323
This. No wonder nvidia rushed to launch the "founders" edition. Imagine if amd announced sooner. I willing to bet 100$ that nvidia was planning on launching at computex but caught wind of the 480.
Christ just wait till vega drops. Like 2 titan z for 600$. Fuck. Amd is stright savage right now.
Guys quick question. Im going to by RX 480. Which brand is the best? Can someone post tiers?
>>54860546
Sapphire makes some high quality designs and coolers for amd chips, evga is always above average. Asus is always a gamble same with msi. The other brands are on a per card basis.
>>54859938
3 480s are still cheaper
>>54860546
don't waste your money, buy nvidia.
>>54860788
>Don't get AMD
>Doesn't explain why
>>54860788
Im not a gay, sorry.
>>54859938
>2 midrange cards in SLI/Crossfire do better than one flagship card
WOWWEEE, I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS BEFORE. THIS IS THE FIRST GENERATION OF GPUS IN THE HISTORY OF GRAPHICS CARDS THAT THIS HAS EVER HAPPENED!
No seriously, this isn't surprising at all. Every generation has done this that I can think of in the last fucking decade.
Why can't we just have a third party?
>>54859938
Now I've seen it all, performance chart in dollars.
How many dollars per second can my 970 do?
HOLY MOTHER OF GOD
AMD's done it again, boys! It's totally ogre now! NVIDIA = rip in piece. Only literal retards will buy 1080 when you can get more power at $500.
>>54860959
found one
>>54859938
okay explain this shit, how is two 480s running at 50% better than one 480 running at 100%?
why did they cap it at 50%? why not just get crossfire to run at 100% and absolutely wreck the 1080? protip; something fishy is going on
>>54860942
dont forget you can get 3 and still be cheaper
STILL WAITING ON A LIST OF "REAL" DX 12 GAMES COMING OUT IN THE NEXT YEAR.
AMD maintaining their dominance in the theoretical performance without real world real world results category.
>>54861058
Because it was rushed to show with non-optimized drivers and games. AMD is several months ahead of DX12/Vulkan stuff working to 100%. Game devs are still working on it as it's new stuff for them to learn to work with.
>>54859971
>>54857219
A CF 480 setup just beat the 1080 at a 4K game benchmark, for about half the price, against something it's not even MEANT to compete with.
Do you feel retarded yet?
When are these cards set to launch?
I live in a country where everything cost triple.
So I will be getting que AMD one.
>>54861422
On shelves June 29.
490 and 490X will be next year and will cripple Nvidia.
>>54861461
Can't you just drive to a neighboring country and smuggle one in your asshole
Nvidia can go to hell and rest in peace
>>54860284
Fortunately you are wrong (and possibly a shill also)
http://imagescdn.tweaktown.com/content/5/8/5826_32_msi_radeon_r9_280x_2gb_twin_frozr_oc_in_crossfire_video_card_review.png
https://elchapuzasinformatico.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/AMD-Radeon-R9-380-CrossFire-Alien-Isolation-4K.jpg
http://cdn.eteknix.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/gta-4k.jpg
https://elchapuzasinformatico.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/AMD-Radeon-R9-380-CrossFire-Crysis-3-4K.jpg
Besides, even if you do find some example, the 480 CF beat it by 10%.
Call me again when we see some DX11 benchmarks.
>>54861598
But I don't know how to call you anon.
>>54860372
Kill yourself homo
>>54860959
'we' have 4 brands actually.
>>54861093
derp
>>54861598
>vr
>dx11
>async compute
pick two to win your shill prize
>>54861476
If AMD gets its fucking marketing right ffs.
>>54861636
Just post on here I am here everyday. Ask for faggot.
>b-but these ayymd cards are cheaper
>n-no one wants to spend over $300
>OMG look at these two cards for $500!
>amdrones want to spend $500 on two cards all of a sudden which aren't even guaranteed to work properly see >>339635397
>>54859971
buying 2 shit tier card and they beat the 1080 ah ha ha ha ha ha
>>54860323
A single 8pin gpu does not draw that much power, quit the bullshit.
System power consumption is the entire computer's consumption, not the lone gpu
>>54860613
evga has no amd cards
>>54861733
Good point but the 390 is drawing almost the same then, why?
Don't listen to the shills, pls.
If you're on a budget, get the rx480.
If you have the money, get the 1080.
It's as simple as that. Avoid crossfire/sli if possible as it's not worth enough.
>>54861840
Fuck you I'll get both and slifire them with dx12 to make you 100% MAD
>>54861840
>If you have the money, get the 1080.
Or Just get the 480X which will probably be like $300.
>>54861840
cf is relevant again since dx12 and vulkan.
Now you may not see the benefits until 2017, but cf is really future proofing because the rx480 can run every game currently out and in 2017 dx12 is probably gonna be the standard so it will be strictly superior if the current games get cf profiles.
>>54860061
the 1070 will be titan x tier
the rx 480 will be 980 tier
>>54861866
AMD WILL CAUSE A FUCKING HOSUEFIRE AS ALWAYS MARK MY WORDS SENPAI DESSSUU
>>54861874
the rx480 is $200 for 4gb and $230 for 8gb. Not $300.
>>54861879
MFW
Have a z97 mobo with Crossfire but the second pci-e slot is 4x
How fucked am I?
>>54861899
Is there no 480X? Or is that the 8GB?
>>54861907
Very fucked and I'm in the same jam
Enjoy your xbox 1 console ports.
>>54861918
R9 480
RX 480
the x is now before the number
>>54859971
and it still costs less
umad, tripfag?
>>54861918
Hasn't been announced yet.
>>54859938
this graphic actually fails to show the GPU utilization which is the really damning thing for 1080
In fact the 1080 is using something like 98% in this test while the RX 480s are at 60%
>>54859938
"He actually thinks that SLI/Crossfire stutter is worth the 4fps increase"
>>54859938
>crossfire
>microstutter
>ashes of the singularity
This is bait.
>>54862005
see pic related
>>54861929
Fucking MSI. Good mobo, shitty meme gayme colors, getting nice OC on my i5, but fuck, why didn't they just put 2x16x?
Feel like I got cucked
>>54859938
>4fps gains
>>54862005
>>54862029
Not fully utilising the GPU is not a good thing you mongoloids.
Jesus christ it's summery as fuck in here.
>>54862005
Why is less than 100% utilization good? The GPU could give you even more frames, is it a CPU bottleneck or crossfire not working properly?
>>54862045
Even most modern mobos can't do 2x16x
Unless you get something crazy like an i7-6850k or some such, not going to happen. Difference between 16x & 8x is minimal though.
>>54862054
>maxing out the GPU to achieve barely playable frame rates is okay
>>54862047
for $200 less
>>54862054
>not fully utilising the GPU
>not a good thing
pick one
>>54862047
in an amd optimized game as well. i bet it won't have any gains in a real testing game like arma 3 or witcher 3.
>>54862054
No john you are the summerfag.
It was rushed AMD drivers. Doubt it scaled all that well. Not that it really matters imo since the 1080 was indeed beaten. Driver improvements will only aid the 480 in making inroads in the market/benchmarks.
>>54862045
Yeah msi gaming 3 here, I learned that if it doesn't support sli it really only supports 4x speed crossfire, so sli support is the way to check for decent crossfire support
Isn't Polaris a new arch designed for 14nm while Pascal is almost a 16nm port of Maxwell? Or was I just told lies?
>>54862111
>ashes of singularity
>amd GCN optimized game
thanks for proving my point
>>54862054
>>54862061
>>54862073
50% utilization on the RX's means they can deliver double the performance on a better-optimized engine or game, or with newer drivers.
98% utilization on t he 1080 means it will never be any faster, period.
>>54862142
>blame the game
>>54862065
>>54862114
MSI niggers.
I at least hoped it would've been 8x, but no, they had to put that shitty 4x. This mobo has literally no proper multi-gpu support.
>>54862141
>cheaper
>same performance
>less GPU utilization than a maxed out 1080 that's barely delivering playable framerates
>proving your point
who the fuck is ever gonna play Ashes of the Singularity? what is even that shit?
>>54860073
>that 390x
holy shit I had no idea
>>54862120
no
thats the truth
>>54860546
I bought three Sapphire cards. 5750, 6870 and a r9 280x.
None of them have ever failed me. The r9 280x has a rattling fan problem on low speeds after two years and that's because I fucked up and accidentally made a SATA cable press on the side of the fan for like 9 months.
>>54862155
>blame your moooooom haha!!
My motherboard is capable of 8+8 in dual CF. Is that good enough for 2 x 480's?
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>>54862259
Yeah
>>54860010
Hot.
>>54862181
Let me explain anon kun:
You see AMD has been getting their asses handed to them for the last ten years or so. After the fermi debacle, the nvidia shills understood that you can't sell ovens for graphics cards. So they invested in R&D and came out with sensible architectures that can provide top-notch performance while not putting the gaymurs house in danger. AMD, on the other hand, decided to go ape-shit: 8-core procesors drawing 300w of energy and horrendous power-thirsty GPUs with reference coolers roaring like jet engines.
After all this fuckery AMD is still struggling with damage control and they're doing whatever they can to cope with the faggots from nvidia who overprice their GPUs because shills will but them anyway. The latest attempt by AMD at trying to beat nvidia is presenting a mysterious new line of cheap cards which on paper not only seem to completely obliterate two previous generations of cards they pushed out not so long ago (390/fury/nano), but also are giving top-range nvidia cards a run for their money.
Seem...
Because, you, see, Ashey of Hilarity is nothing more than a glorified fucking benchmark tailor-made for AMD equipment. It's like AMD is picking a page from the great book of nvidia shilling and try to use proprietary stuff to peddle their hardware.
These cards will not be as good as they're making out to be.
>Crossfire
NEVER
EVER
why don't people realize that Mr. Poo's example wasn't him saying "buy two 480's to match the 1080" but rather it was meant as a starting example of how good the new series is, considering they don't have the enthusiast versions ready yet
if you want an AMD card to match the 1080, wait for the higher tier versions of the 400 series
>>54860138
Toms hardware shows the 1080 will consume ~300 watts.
>>54862170
>cheaper
so will a 970 in sli after these cards come out. i'll just buy that. :^)
>same performance
where are my multiple benchmarks? oh wait..
>less GPU utilization than a maxed out 1080 that's barely delivering playable framerates
please, show me any 5 benchmarks of AAA mainstream games that have anything higher than lets say, 70% sli/cf utilization.
>>54861693
>check archives
>post not found
wow
>>54862333
3,5gb sli setup,
that was the joke by the way
>>54862312
Nvidia are up shits creek with thermals on the 1080 though
Also it's not new arch it's just a super overclocked 980 benefiting from die shrink
>>54862326
No it doesn't
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-pascal,4572-10.html
Stock it consumes 173W and overclocked it consumes 206W
>>54862312
I would love to see the ratio of benchmarks run on Ashes to hours actually played. Does anyone even play this game? Anbody have 100+ hours in it?
>AMD blaming software yet again
Look fags, I love AMD and wish them nothing but competitiveness but you pulled this shit with bulldozer and fucked your company for four years.
Don't have your graphics division shoot itself in the foot too (oh it's just not optimized dx12/vulkan the hardware is fine if you take advantage of it). It's fucking suicide.
pls stahp
>>54862450
Rumors are that ATi will make a come back actually and split from AMD because of AMDs bullshit
>>54862347
>he can't prove the proof
KEK, one more amdrone blown the fuck out.
:^)
>>54859947
>>54859971
>>54860002
>>54860027
>>54860096
>>54860138
>>54860372
>>54860788
FULL ON DAMAGE CONTROL MODE
>>54862379
>look at this 1080p benchmark with unknown preset
>now compare this to the 1440p Extreme preset in the OP
What in the actual fuck are you doing?
woooooooowwwww it took two of you to beat me
>>54862542
Why are you sweating bro?
>>54862450
>AMD blaming software yet again
When you have other company pushing and segregating the market with their proprietary bullshit, and refuse to share it, then yeah, you can blame said company for it.
>>54862333
>>cheaper
>SLI 970
nice one m8
>>Same performance
>benchmarks?
they're up your booty
>>less GPU utilization
>AAA games
>implying that AAA games matter
>>54862542
in a cherry picked benchmark as well. benchmark. it wasn't even actual gameplay. i can't wait to see the 3rd party reviews of CF in games like witcher 3 or tomb raider.
>inb4 gameworks
>>54862602
Its AMD's software thats to blame though, thats the funny part. They had shit drivers and no fixes for years, then, pajeet of course thinks that the problem is their public image so they release Radeon "Crimson". They can't afford to keep up with development.
>>54862629
>nice one m8
>implying there aren't going to be thousands of people selling 970's on the cheap because of the 1070's release
>they're up your booty
you mean the multiple benchmarks? where?
>implying that AAA games matter
>"g-guy's my game barely gains any extra fps in crossfire in this very popular game i want to play but i-it's ok, this one benchmark shows it can get decent scaling in this one specific game"
>p-praise amd
Memes and shit posting aside, when is AMD going to get their shit straight?
>>54862565
under rated
>>54862632
>tomb raider.
A broken game at launch with tons of performance issue.
Some of these issue have yet to be addressed.
Witcher 3 is a fine benchmark, even with Hairwork on tho, but RotR? Its an even worst shit than Ashes.
What funny about RotR is that it doesn't use nvidia hairwork, but AMD based tress-fx for the hair shit.
>>54862632
But Gameworks is proven to gimp AMD cards. Why wouldn't it be a valid argument?
>>54862542
Two of them for 250 dollars less than one of you.
>>54862787
>comparing open, industry standard API
>to proprietary bullshit that almost all the time add almost fuck all to the game performance and visual
>that also fuck Kepler in the ass because they ain't got enough time to optimize for
>muh GOD RAY
Who /980ti/ here? It's actually gotten to the point where my hard drives are the bottleneck for everything.
FOR GOD'S SAKE WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN VEGA GETS HERE!~!~!!!!!~!~!~!~!
>>54862697
>>lots of people are selling old cards for new ones
>implying anyone would buy 970s for SLI
>benchmarks
I left them about 3 feet in. You should be able to just reach in and grab them. Don't forget the lube, I don't want you injuring yourself. There'll be plenty of time for that later tonight.
>AMD plays games good
PRAISE
>>54862278
>0.5fps difference
>5% margin of error difference
what the fuck is this shit
>>54862735
funposting*
/g/ is a blue board.
And soon, I hope.
>>54862278
>Windows 10
well there's your bottleneck right there
>>54862787
who cares? everyone is claiming that 2 480x are faster than a gtx 1080. it should be like that in every game according to all these people in these threads, so it shouldn't matter with gameworks or not.
>>54862735
Never they're gonna go under and the next company that buys it out will try to fix the shit mistakes they made, but then history will repeat once again
>>54862817
Hair that finally almost does not look like ass.
>pointless
In one shitty game that is basically a tech demo. Meanwhile in the real world...
>>54859938
I hope it doesn't look the way it does on launch because as it stands it looks like a tool wall shed with a doughnut etched into it
>>54861907
>>54861929
It's fine, there'll be a 2% difference at best. GPUs are not bandwidth starved.
>>54862933
That have an unnecessary amount of tessellation.
All AMD user have to do is lock it to 8x or 16x, which look pretty much the same, and actually have less performance lost than Kepler.
Like Crysis 3, they bloated the tessellation beyond necessary just to make sure that it will run like shit on other GPU aside from Maxwell.
Also, Purehair in RotR is a lot better, use less resources, and work on all GPU lineup.
>>54863007
Seriously? Hmm, maybe I'll keep the mobo after all and maybe go for a second 480 in a year or two.
>>54859938
>two cards vs one card
what a surprise
>that one game where amd has 2-3fps more with dual gpus and nobody plays
give me a break amdfags
>>54863060
Yes, seriously. If you do some googling you'll find some lovely charts. I'm too lazy to do it right now but the difference isn't very big.
>>54863024
Meanwhile at nvidia:
>I-Increase GameWorks © tessellation!!!
>>54863084
>1+1 > 1
brb buying another GT 610 so I can play crysis
THE REAL QUESTION HERE is why the fuck do modern games even NEED powerful GPUs? It's not like anyone is pushing graphical boundaries. Overwatch and street fighter 5 are the only kind-of-okay PC games released in modern times and they're both cartoon fuck graphics. What the fuck is so graphically intense about overwatch that it requires a 1080 or two 480s to play it?
>>54863165
laziness
>tfw I use CUDA on my work
Anyone has the webm of the Medieval engineers gtx970 catching on fire?
>>54862823
Get a cheap $100 500GB SSD
>>54859938
>inb4 microstuttering
>multiple GPUs
thanks but I like my frame times consistent
>>54863165
>What the fuck is so graphically intense about overwatch that it requires a 1080 or two 480s to play it?
You mean besides that at highest settings it looks like a Pixar movie rendered in real time?
>>54863165
>It's not like anyone is pushing graphical boundaries
You have no idea what you're talking about
>>54860096
>not relevant
>just made 1080p/ max settings gaming viable for even midrange prebuilts
>just became, by far, the most sensible option for >85% of all PC gamers
>just buttfucked the entire < $250 gpu market
Its pretty fucking relevant.
>>54861969
because R10 480 looks retarded
"X" = Roman numeral for 10
>>54862054
If these were completed, released drivers, you would be correct.
But these are early test drivers. Pretty much meaning they can only get better. Probably not a 100% increase, by doubling gpu usage, like some people seem to think, but better.
>>54862278
That's really impressive 1920x1080 performance for a Fury X, damn.
>>54862380
>playing an amd tech demo
AMD makes bargain basement shit that is cheap so poorfags will buy it
You'd never see Jen Hsun drop a 1080 like this, but AMD knows it's easily replaced for cheap so they don't care if they recklessly handle it
This says everything about the company
>>54864127
The only one pooing here is you, rajesh.
>>54864127
>>54864127
>You'd never see Jen Hsun drop a 1080 like this
No, because he's too busy looking extremely cringy in a leather jacket.
>>54862011
You know what's amazing? My 295x2 doesn't stutter.... at all. Even games like Witcher 3 that aren't AMD optimized run buttery smooth.
>>54865889
stuttering is a /g/ meme perpetrated by people who don't know how to run on vsync or use 144Hz
>>54865922
I mean, I'm all in for AMD but I swear to god I saw the game stuttering when they were showcasing the 480 CF vs 1080
It was probably just a stream thing but who knows
>cap framerate to 60
>100W card
Who 60Hz master race here?
>>54865922
It's not really a /g/ meme. I have seen video demonstrations of stutter before, so I know it can happen, but for whatever reason it just hasn't affected 295x2.
I imagine I could force it to stutter like a bitch if I turned off frame pacing, and mucked up the settings like a ham-fisted moron, but why?
This hole stutter thing is so overblown. Crossfire is just as good as single card. Its 2016, the drivers have matured.
>>54859971
>paying $700 and getting worse performance
This looks bad for Nvidia, anon.
>>54860096
>AYYMD is irrelevant
AMD just made the GTX 980, GTX 970 and GTX 960 completely irrelevant with a single $200 product, which is only the very first of their new lineup.
>>54859938
>How do you want your frame times?
JUST FUCK MY SHIT ALL UP SENPAI
>>54866265
>This hole stutter thing is so overblown. Crossfire is just as good as single card. Its 2016, the drivers have matured.
You're wrong though, it's still a huge down side to multi gpu setups.
>Mfw 1070 "Founder" asspain
>>54859947
Nfaggot alert
>>54864127
Retarded
Hahaha these threads
>>54862542
u shure bout' that ching chong?
>>54862856
Legit retarded.
>>54866635
>implying windows doesn't impact performance
who's the real retard here
go back to /v/ and/or plebbit, please. alternatively if you do one "Our RMS" and 5 "Hail gentoo"s I will forgive you of your sins against Freedom
gee Bill, why does your mom let you have TWO Rx 480s?
>>54860138
> he buys performance cards based on energy consumption, not how good for their cost they are
Should probably go pick up some small form-factor GT520s, dude.
>>54859971
Pls
Stop posting that face
>not buying 1080p
lol poorfags.
>>54860284
270 is same tier as 380 and 480, 300 series added the unnumbered Fury to the top
>>54859938
>An RX 480 costs $229
>It consumes 100W of power
>A GTX 1080 costs $800
>It consumes 220W of power
>Two RX 480 cards are cheaper, faster and consume less power than a single 1080
Nvidia is finished and bankrupt.
>Crossfire
Enjoy your microstutter and no games supporting the Crossfire performance anyway, amdcucks
>>54862277
You want more slaw?
> mfw AMD Domination
I wish i could by an AMD card. Last I checked their drivers sucked ass in Linux.
>>54859938
Isn't it possible or even likely, that if AMD can make a card that beats the GTX1080 when in crossfire(for cheaper), they can also make a single card that beats the GTX1080 for a cheaper price?
If they make a card at a higher price, they are just losing customers if its cheaper to get two of the cheaper ones anyway.
>>54870026
A more comfortable experience than Nvidia, but not as comfortable as Intel
>>54869877
This image really triggers me..... That fucking greedy kike is occupying two seats and blocking the path to the other seats just because he is an entitled "god's chosen"
>>54870074
What. Nvidia had good proprietary drivers for almost ten years, I think. Ati always was a pain on linux, even now they release their new linux drivers only for 7700 and newer and they are still shit.
>>54870035
This tbph
AMD will take the market and Nvidia will get into some problems with their new GPUs being out-classed by AMD. Unless they really drop their prices.
Either way I'm happy as fuck, since this introduces a price war which we the consumers will benefit from the most!
>DX12
Context is important
I like how they say DX12 as if there's actually more than one DX12 game
>>54859938
B-but nvidia has a s-screenshot tool
>>54866536
expected AMD would try to cheat
Mr.Poo sounds so stereotypical
>>54859971
>two "shit" cards beat one card and still cost less
>blankposting
This kills the GTX1070 before it even comes out right?
And I laughed hard when i checked my local tech shop where all the GTX1080s were already sold out with like -500 in stock or something. Impatient faggots will always get fucked.
>>54870339
I don't think it does, the 1070 should be faster in theory.
>>54870367
>5-10% performance increase for $180 more.
Don't think so.
And anyway we havent even seen the AMD flagships yet, if they can do this much with $199 they can BTFO everything else for like $400-500
How much better is this thing going to be than the 970? I can get a 970 for $200 right now. Should I hold off until the end of the month for this one?
>>54870411
this is still bad for DX11 games
>>54870411
Impossible to say, benchmarks hopefully out within a week or two.
>>54870416
We dont know that before benchmarks m8
>>54870411
It'll be supported for much longer than a 970 on the account of being a newer card and Nvidia's shit record of supporting older cards
>>54870422
? why do you think they only show DX12 benchmarks
>>54860096
POOJEET ON POOICIDE WATCH DESUYO
>>54870339
The 1070 is going to be faster than the 480. But the 1070 is going to cost almost twice as much.
>>54870396
They probably will, but it may be too late by the time the release, people are too impatient to upgrade and go with whatever's the best available thing at the moment
Nobody will replace their 1080's if AMD's flagship turns out to be 5-10% faster
>>54870411
It should be about as good as a 970. Wait for the benchmarks to come out though, at least.
What the actual performance (instead of the highly cherrypicked special case DX12 shit) will be is yet to be seen, but it's likely to be good.
>>54870431
Cause DX12 is the future.
>>54870474
in the future when the games come out, there will be better DX12 cards
>>54870470
Sure, but lots of people are waiting, me included. And then the people who decide to get pcs in the coming years are definitely going to buy the better choice. Of course those who already buy the 1080 arent going to change, unless there is a huge difference in performance, but that wont happen.
>>54870471
>$200 card faster than $800 card.
>"cherrypicked benchmark"
The cherry shouldn't even exist.
>>54870485
the RX 480 still beats the 970 in DX11, by a large margin
Leaked 3DMark11 benches have been out for a while
>people are actually defending two jewish companies
>not buying what offers the best performance for your money
If i had $1000 for a GPU i'd get 1080ti, if $200 480
Nvidia are not good at business.
>>54870521
First you need to understand what DX12 does to multicard setups.
DX12 enables mulitcard setups to work at nearly 100% efficiency: IE, 2 cards = 200% performance.
If you play anything but Ashes of the singularity (The only DX12 game that exists) then 2 cards = 130% performance.
IE the cost effectiveness of the cards fucking nosedives outside of that SINGLE GAME.
It's a highly cherrypicked (IE it's a single game rather than an aggregate of multiple games) special case (DX12) benchmark, AND on top of this is the 'fudge factor' of official nvidia/AMD slides which is an extra +20% on top.
Remember AMD's fury X slides showing it beating the titan X? This is the same shit.
This graph is a magical combination of 'official benchmark shit' (IE exaggerations from the company themselves), and a cherry picked special case.
That said, the 480 is looking pretty fucking good even accounting for these fudge factors, but it's not nearly as good as AMD is claiming.
>>54870411
It's already 30% faster than a GTX 970 and has more than double the VRAM.
Why would you get the cucked meme card instead?
>>54870471
Would you imagine if 2 of them can out perform a 1080 than one could hand the 970 it's ass? In SLI you're not even getting double the power really, more like 1.5x.
>>54870035
if vega is basically 2x CU of polaris + HBM2, so 2x 480, then very likely; Vega on gddr5x would be also cheaper.
>>54870641
Is the well deserved AMD era of domination back?
Maybe AMD can do some AMD exclusive shit just to fuck with Nvidia even more. Greedy fuckers.
>>54870523
This forced me to sell my 970 before they become worthless.
$240, even though if they guy waited a few weeks he could get a brand new card with better performance.
Oh well.
>>54870657
no idea. I hope so for the sake of prices and competition.
However, all we know now is:
2x 480 is cherrypicked in memes of singularity, with bizzare 51% utilization
vega is gonna be late to compete with 1080, which is out now and why extra paid founders edition exists, which shows what nvidia will do in the future with no competition - paying extra shekels on release date, just because they can
Once it's out, nvidia will drop prices or it will be relatively close to nvidia answer with HBM2, worst case for AMD that they will have the card ready at the same time.
>>54869359
This, imagine if they released a powerful version of polaris, it would consume even less power
>>54863458
So they're postponing the inevitable by 1 year, or possibly a further two if they go for Y and Z.
>AMD announces 490X2
better get cooking with your titan Y, nvidia
>>54860788
>don't waste money on AMD
>buy a card that is 2x price for 1.2x performance
>>54859938
The deciding factor for me will be how quiet the run idle and under load.
>>54860119
Enjoy playing your console ports with no dual card support at half power.
>>54859938
>crossfire
Help help they're murdering me by forcing me to laugh to death
>>54871854
>>54871621
kek
why are nvidia fanboys so butthurt and trying to hide their buyers remorse.
>>54860546
For AMD(anyone who thinks otherwise is straight up retarded and has never looked up any benches for their cooling solutions):
Tier 1: Sapphire
Tier 2: MSI, Powercolor
Tier 3: Gigabyte, Club 3D, XFX VTX3D
Tier 4: ASUS
nvidia, fuck you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_36yNWw_07g
>>54872186
You forgot one.
