I... I can't believe it. I'm speechless.
They actually fucking did it. They're back in the game. AMDomination is fucking here again.
I am fucking crying. Thank you AMD for releasing us from NShitia.
I'm curious.
But they left us again with Intel...
>>54848698
Zen scales from high performance server parts down to embedded. I think at least one of those parts will be competitive enough for them to make money. We don't know enough about Zen's performance yet to say anything else but there's also Zen+ coming out like a year or two afterward which was also built with Keller's guidance.
>>54848675
Wat u want snappy
>"coming out like a year or two afterward"
AMD.
It's a card that's less powerful than the 1070. It's pretty much for ultra-poorfags AMD is still fucked unless they can release something highend.
>>54849018
June 29th
I missed the event and want to know if they talked about their upcoming CPU products?
>>54849018
Zen comes out this year. Zen+ comes out next year or the year after that. Consistent product releases is a good thing
>>54849046
I hate to break it to you, but the majority of gaymers are ultra-poorfags.
The real question is whether or not a single 1070 beats two RX 380s
Are piss4 and xbone selling well?
>>54849076
>RX 380s
That's not how AMD's numbering works. It'd be the RX 470.
>>54849071
Yup. Their addiction interferes with personal development.
>>54849067
Do you really think Intel and NVIDIA will stay idle? They'll just continue to btfo AMD for years to come.
>Zen+ will save us
Ok anon.
>>54849059
They mentioned that Zen is an 8 core CPU with 16 threads and that it can be scaled from high performance down to embedded level designs and then the stream ended.
>>54849029
>>54848433
>>54847048
>>54847291
>>54848647
And this was all on just the first page of /g/. The AMD shilling is strong tonight.
>>54849115
Oh my bad
Will two RX 480s for $400 beat a single 1070 OCed for $400?
>>54849127
If AMD dies intel will never bother releasing a good chip again.
LMAO PEOPLE WHO PRE-ORDERED A GTX 1080 GOT BTFO
>>54849126
thanks but fuck they really didn't release much info.
>>54849127
>People talking about a stream that was up an hour ago
FUCKING SHILLS
>>54848817
40% IPC increase over piledriver, which still falls short of haswell
but that's OK, because Intel being better than AMD is a minor issue, but AMD not being good enough is a big fucking problem
>>54849155
t. poorfag
>>54849170
The previous slides they released said it was 40% over excavator not piledriver
AMD has really screwed up this time and they're trying everything they can to get out of it. Remember, this card has the same TDP as a 1070 so they can't even claim efficiency as an advantage
>>54849140
It's impossible to say for sure at this point. The only speculation I'll offer is that single card solutions are always better than SLI/Crossfire, so even if the 1070 and two RX 480s offer equivalent performance, I'd go for the 1070 because it'll just operate smoother anyways.
>>54849152
What does that have to do with all this shilling?
Also, didn't AMD spin off ATI last year?
>>54849167
Why are they making multiple new threads instead of sticking to ONE THREAD ON THE FRONT PAGE? AMDrones cannot use the catalog, or worse, READ WHAT IS ON THE FIRST PAGE? Either they are retarded or shilling.
>>54849170
I thought they said "over 40%", but even if it's slightly under haswell, wouldn't it be priced very nicely to eat into 2011 sales?
>>54849140
Tough to say until we get real benchmarks but probably, yeah.
>>54848698
If amd keeps prices low, intel wont sell shit (to normal consumers)
>>54849120
The shit wrecker brought us the glorious A64, and now Zen. Intel is finished GG no re
>>54849200
1070 owner spotted
LOL
>>54849200
>Why are they making multiple new threads instead of sticking to ONE THREAD ON THE FRONT PAGE?
Well they were until the stream died and then there were people that just wanted to make bait threads
>>54849181
>you're poor because you get better performance than me despite paying less
Nvidicucks so far down the rabbit hole they sound like Apple fans.
>>54849223
>1070 owner
It's not even out yet.
>>54849181
Spotted the nvidiot.
>>54849223
Thanks for making it clear AMDrones are retards.
>>54849190
Are you daft?
Vega is competing at the high end, not Polaris
>>54849181
i have a 6 figure trust fund an im still pissed
(because i understand the value of money)
im positive that im richer than you
>>54849248
>>54849256
Oh sorry I should refer to you by your proper title, "Founder"
>>54849233
>there were people that just wanted to make bait threads
Effectively shilling. Glad that was cleared up.
>>54849155
they didn't even mention the 490 which is gonna kill the 1080ti
Actually did you know that AMD talked to NVIDIA and the RX 480 is actually a rebranded GTX 480.
Ancient poo is sacred in the loo
>>54849181
>a fool and his money are soon parted
>>54849184
>>54849204
I stand corrected
I seriously can't wait to see how the 8 core 16 thread Zen chips fare against the 2011 Haswell Refresh chips.
If it's anything more than 80% as good I don't think those will be costing over a fucking grand anymore.
>>54849237
this "poorfag" shit is laughable. even the most ridiculously cost inefficient X99 enthusiast build is nothing compared to a decent car or a down payment on a house.
>>54849199
Not for VR they aren't.
VR works BETTER with two GPUs and the right software to match.
And don't forget that AMD is pushing the dual GPU for VR thing so hard that there's NO WAY they could afford to fuck up and not provide crossfire support for ALL VR games.
Post YFW the real benchmarks come out and they're dog shit and you have to buy NVIDIA and the cycle continues all over again
>mfw you didn't fell for the gtx 10xx meme
>>54849341
Same. I'm impatient and tired of waiting, now that I know the 1070 isn't a huge waste compared to Polaris I'm pretty certain I'll get one now. I wanted AMD to succeed so bad, Nvidia needs competition. I guess the good news is that AMD is probably poised to retake some market share on the low end with this, and Zen will get them a lot of marketshare back in enterprise. They've stopped bleeding money, so if everything goes to plan they'll have more money to improve their next generation of products even more...
>>54849483
this. hopefully they'll be able to use this as an effective stepping stone, if not then things are going to start looking bleak
Out of the loop on exactly what's happening. What did AMD release, why is it better, and should I tell my friends to get it instead of a 10xx
>>54849712
Do your own research
>>54849712
>What did AMD release
No release. Only hype.
>>54849712
AMD picked up some new shills
>>54849745
he shills for everyone, don't you want an intel snowboard and beanie?
>>54849745
Linus is the type of person to upgrade his i7 every generation and upgrade from an xx80 to an xx80ti. He'll only hype the Polaris cards for being a good value, he'll never use them himself.
>>54849721
I figured it'd probably be better to get info like this from /g/ instead of shill hype videos, though I do get where you're coming from
>>54849767
Yeah value isn't something they're known for getting sponsored to make 30000 dollar PCs
>>54848647
These are facts and not nvidia lies anymore.
From the very moment the 1080 was announced, nvidia showed weakness.
Cashing out their stock hype.
>>54849712
They released a card that offers 95% of Nvidia's GTX 1070 cards at 50% the price.
Is Nvidia still getting developers to do physx-exclusive visual effects?
>>54848817
>Zen to be 90-95% of sky lake performance
>Intel going to release Kaby Lake same time frame
Zen might be a great budget cpu but it won't be competitive with intel's latest (except AMD thinks they'll get to charge big boy prices)
>>54850332
if they use the unreal engine
>>54848647
So, what evidence are you basing your opinion on?
It amuses me that AMDshitters are the same people who avoid windows 10
>>54849285
That's due to the 490's lack of existence
>>54850368
> imblying Intel has had a worthwhile core upgrade since Haswell if not Sandy Bridge
I know all those AVX and AES acceleration blocks made enterprise sluts wet, but general purpose integer IPC has been in a rut for quite a while now.
>>54848647
>Nvidia cuts prices by $50
>Suddenly Pajeets bankrupt again
Which will happen at the point in time where AMD actually starts selling the cards.
>>54849285
The 490 is going to be a fury rebrand you dumb shitter
AMD's 400 series is going to be one massive disappointment.
I say that AMD dying is a bad thing but that's not true. AMD is already dead. The bad thing has already happened.
>>54850320
>50% of the price
Nice math there, buddy; you also realize that the $200 model is only 4GB whereas 1070 is 8GB?
Also:
>NDA on Polaris press day until June 29th
>Good news
Pick one
>>54850485
>4GB whereas 1070 is 8GB?
It's ok, you don't need more than 3.5 GB, you should be grateful for even 4 :^)
>>54850474
Yeah, this ; NVDA has gross margins over 50%, AMD less than 25% and losing money every quarter
>>54848647
Poorfag here.
I'm soo fucking happy.
>199
Oh Yes.
>Nvidia has a full 2 months to jew consumers before cutting prices
Wow AMD thanks for lowering the price of premium Nvidia hardware for me :^3
>>54850509
>using the smiley with a carat nose
>>54850529
>using the smiley with a carat nose
>>54850485
The NDA is for the conference that have a lot of shit other than Polaris.
Also, they already announced that Polaris will be available in that exact same date , 29th June.
The NDA might be for something else, or specifically for the conference, since usually the reviews will be up a week or so before the card is shipped.
>>54850555
:>3
>>54850581
>:^D
Gtx 970 owner here...
that ashes of singularity comparison looked too good to be true...
Can't really make a good decision until all the video cards are released/bench marked on different games
>Did AMD use nvidia's tactics to rig Ashes of Singularity?
>Will vulcan be available on the majority of games and work equally well with nvidia and amd?
>Will I be forced to update to windows 10?
Too much shit to consider atm senpai
>>54850594
:<3
>>54850581
>using the smiley with a greater than nose
>>54850594
>using the smiley with a carat nose
>>54850603
>using the smiley with a less than nose
>>54850597
>majority of games
lol no, 99% of games aren't even considering DX 12 support let alone async compute.
>Will I be forced to update to Windows 10
Yes, Microsoft is pushing this shit hard, but then again they can't do jack shit because this console generation basically means you'll be stuck with DX 11 for at least 3-4 years.
>>54850612
>acknowledging nose types
>>54850597
I just wish game devs realize noone wants Windows 10 and use Vulkan instead
>>54850479
>The 490 is going to be a fury rebrand you dumb shitter
That doesn't even make sense
>AMD's 400 series is going to be one massive disappointment
Looks pretty good so far. When the benchmarks come out we'll see. But VR Spec at $200 is a good sign. I bet the 470x will meet the VR Spec as well.
>>54850631
>tfw dx12 is likely how Microsoft plans to prevent SteamOS/Linux gaming in general from ever becoming anything more than a small niche
>>54850645
DX 12 and Vulkan are memes for the next 3-4 years considering the main platform for gaming is the PS4 and that shit isn't going anywhere anytime soon and Devs are lazy as fuck and aren't going to throw away 4-5 years of work for memes to satisfy some AMD poorfags.
>buying current gen before both flagships are real world benchmarked
I don't understand how retards like this still exist
>>54848971
jus fuk mi shit up senpai
Very want.
Does amd still sell amd brand ram?
I want to go full MAD next build this winter.
>>54850694
If retards like that didn't exist, how wouldd they ever get real world benchmarked?
>>54850645
Just wait for Vulkan
>>54850659
Vulkan and DX12 can be ported to consoles since they use GCN GPUs
>>54850722
I think they even sell AMD SSD's now.
>>54850734
youtube shills who get free cards.
You new here?
>>54850747
>can be
Sony has already said they're not making porting a new API onto the PS4 ever. Even Mantle could have been implemented on the PS4 but they weren't interested then either.
>>54849140
The bench showed at the presentation claimed 2 RX 480 to be better than 1 GTX 1080 (and only with 51% utilization). Crossfire is tricky, but if that's true, the Crossfire setup competes with the 1080 and not with the 1070
Wait till it's released and we see benchmarks of it sucking hard, then brag about your consumer decisions like they matter to anybody but you.
>>54850485
>Unironically thinking the 1070 will be available for less than $450 in the next few months
Nvidia cards are like fairies. Every time an Nvidiot stops believing in Nvidia's lies, their cards lose 0.5 GB of VRAM.
>>54850764
>youtube shills
>real world benchmarks
>>54850777
They'll change their minds once the Xbox has DX12 support.
Like they changed their minds when the Xbox got it's shitstorm of bad press and had the day 1 update
>>54850810
Xbox is literally 30% of the market. They'll build it for PS4 then port it to Xbox.
And the xbox port will be DX 11.
Thanks AMD
>>54850810
>They changed their minds
The only people that changed their minds were Microsoft. They couldn't give a shit which console won as long as they can hawk their wares on the winner.
>>54850809
majority of that community doesn't have to not say negative things about these and play on both sides. One of the few groups of youtube shills who have control over the marketing since there's so few of them.
>tfw i do youtube marketing
most kids make it ez
>>54850827
They could use it as a ploy to get game devs to make "super speshul butter smooth" editions for the Xbox.
the PS2 had a decent marketshare but it still didn't stop the Original Xbox from being more powerful and having better ports while using a different API.
Also PS4 uses OGL no DX 11
>>54849119
Am gaymer. Can confirm.
>>54850859
Or just release a new console because that fucking piece of shit was obsolete on release.
Intel just laid off 7000 Pajeets in their declining CPU business.
AMD is trending up and has been doing it on a shoestring budget. Wall Street approves and so do I.
I'm just waiting for the upgraded 4k PS4 and then I think I'm done with PC gaming. Not worth the cost in my opinion. I'll just pick up used games online on the cheap.
>>54850859
>PS4 uses OGL
It's really easy to port from OGL to DX 11, or vice versa. DX 12 is not going to happen without moneyhatting like Microsoft did with Squeenix.
>>54850880
That's what both parties are doing (it's been done before in the past from N64 to today).
Both are coming out with more powerful versions of their consoles and Apparently Sony has a new low level GPU API to compete (that isn't Vulkan, SONY STAHP)
http://gamingbolt.com/dev-ps4-api-will-hold-its-own-against-dx12-sony-knows-how-to-implement-efficient-graphics-api
>>54850896
>It's been done before
Yeah, Microsoft is going to strongarm the publishers into doing it's will.
No, The publishers will do what requires the least amount of effort for the largest amount of profit.
>>54850802
Non-reference 1070s have already been announced and the 1070 doesn't use GDDR5x, so that's not holding back production like it is on the 1080. The $379 editions of the card should not be long after the reference card releases.
>>54849181
>being proud of buying an inferior product for more money
why are nvidiots so retarded?
>>54850883
>Wall Street approves and so do I.
Wall Street approves because AMD has been focusing on where the real money is, enterprise. Which IS good thing, but doesn't necessarily mean their consumer stuff will be as good as what they're making for servers and custom chipsets and stuff.
>>54849200
I don't recall anyone complaining about the nvidia threads
>>54850474
>Implying nvidia will cut prices
when has that ever happened. sure they're not intel level, where they still sell older tech at full price, but I've never seen a price drop that hard from nvidia outside of generation changes
Nvidia actually cares for it's gamers. Unlike AMD who still has shit tier processors.
They are only competing for the "best bang for the buck" because their video cards and CPUs are slower. Not to mention less efficient so you will be paying more in the long term.
>>54851044
>when has that ever happened
Early and often, especially once they announce their own hardware or start losing ground to AMD.
>>54851071
>this faggot pays for his own electricity bill
>>54850618
Consoles support DX12/Vulkan, and they need to use it to run anything at 1080@30p since they're so underpowered
>>54851215
>support
Microsoft shills DX12, Sony has never said anything about Vulkan support. And Sony is the market leader.
>>54851131
>living on mom's basement and not having his own house or place
Poorfag AMDfags being autistic
>>54851232
Sony has their own low level API which may push people back to the Xbox since they'll want to port to PC
>>54851238
>push people back to the xbox
Doesn't work like that, console sales are stagnant because most people buy it for CoD and Fifa and don't give enough of a shit to buy anything else.
Daily reminder to WAIT FOR VOLTA
>>54851246
>Doesn't work like that
I'm talking about game devs, not console sales.
They'll want to port to PC easier so you'll end up with shitty PS4 ports because Sony needs to fuck shit up again.
>>54851278
>they'll want to port to PC easier
PC sales are an afterthought to most devs, now they're all x86 they'll pick the path of least resistance. Squeenix does it because they were moneyhatted by Microsoft for Rise of the Tomb Raider and they recycle their engine across all their games. Nobody else is interested in implementing it. Even Valve doesn't give a shit, and all they do is optimize Source 24/7.
>>54851249
If Vega and the 1080Ti can't do 60 fps on UHD, then yeah, wait some more. I'm personally waiting for a card that does 1440p in high refreshes since the 4k meme isn't even worth it right now. On the resolution note, any madman doing ultrawide benchmarks? Running 21:9 with 1440 vertical pixels must be taxing.
>>54848647
I've been waiting for someone to compete with, if not outright hamstring Intel. Been watching Zen for a quite a while. The barrier of entry is sufficiently high in this type of market that if AMD doesn't pull it off, Intel will be left to continuing raping as they see fit.
Intel being brought back into line is in everyone's best interest. Their claim that they're researching moving away from silicon (to graphene) is probably bullshit. All the money Intel dumps into R&D only results in minuscule incremental improvements. Either all the low hanging fruit have been plucked, or they have resources beyond their competence.
Fuck Intel. AMD better pull this off.
NVIDIA WON
>GTX 1070 150W, MUCH HIGHER PERFORMANCE
>RX 480 150W, MUCH SLOWER PERFORMANCE
Kyle was dead right again
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/05/27/from_ati_to_amd_back_journey_in_futility/
>In the simplest terms AMD has created a product that runs hotter and slower than its competition's new architecture by a potentially significant margin.
>>54851342
>MUCH HIGHER PERFORMANCE
More like moderately higher performance, VR optimizations, and much better performance/watt.
>>54851373
>much better performance/watt.
Performance/price is much better to be quite frankly honest familia.
>>54851373
I'm waiting but ill probably end up getting the 1080 because of VR optimizations alone. Literally the only reason i need to upgrade.
>>54851397
>people are unironically buying the 1080 when the 1070 delivers close performance at a much lower price
>>54851389
The 1070 is still in a good sweetspot. Perfect for 1080p 144hz, 1440p 60hz, and can handle 4k if you turn down some settings in the game.
>>54851413
I didn't say it wasn't, just that the 480 is probably better in that metric. BUT OF COURSE, WE ALL HAVE TO WAIT FOR ACTUAL BENCHMARKS
>>54851397
It's all about future proofing as best as possible. I'm still running a GTX 580 for this very reason.
The claim that over an arbitrary interval of time you spend the same whether you buy top of the line or not, is more or less bullshit. I view it as a waste of money that just puts you further from the ideal. Save that shit for things that are unforseen and need to be addressed immediately.
>>54851412
>buying disabled hardware, low qc pass chips
>>54851412
He's buying it for VR, money probably isn't the biggest concern if he can afford VR in its current state.
>>54850885
Whatever cuck. Enjoy 30 frames per second games barely on full hd and with shitty apps
>>54851071
Fuck I know this guy. Been invited to a few lunches/dinners and events by NVIDIA because they wanted to shill their products to the pro gamer crowd bad.
>>54849341
Cant fucking wait for the benchmarks
AMDkeks will eat shit for breakfast lunch and dinner
lmaoo
>>54850631
Console ports will use DX12 because that's what xbone uses and Microsoft is pushing the fact that ports using DX12 are pretty easy.
>>54851430
That's pretty opinionated. If amd can deliver then it'd be a up for debate but my personal experience with AMD isnt great so far, and if they arent optimizing for some hypeshit VR hardware then Nvidia has my money, as for 1080 vs 1070, the price difference isnt big enough for me to not consider the difference in purchase, i typically buy the higher end cards with some price/performance exceptions in previous architectures.
I don't feel the need to upgrade anything else in my rig at this point either, with the exception of getting a larger SSD and swapping out my current one to my laptop.
MY DICK
Please just make Zen good then we can be like in the Athlon XP days
>>54848647
>I am fucking crying.
You might need to get a life.
>>54851467
Who's that guy? It looks like it's on Taiwan or the Philipphines.
>>54849046
Last time I checked Not even 5% of the people have a 970...
>>54851538
The GTX970 is the most popular card on Steam.
I reckon the GTX970 was even more popular than the 8000 series which sold like crazy.
>MUCH LESS PERFORMANCE FOR SAME 150W TDP AS GTX 1070
AYYMD HOUSEFIRES
AYYMD HOUSEFIRES EVERYWHERE
>>54851538
>muh steam stats
theres a myriad of things the survey ignores, the amount of at least 970 users is low but not 5% low
>>54851488
I've said that but an Anon keeps replying that it won't happen.
>>54851492
I'm saying you ultimately spend less buying high end, and derive higher value from the investment over time. I don't have much to say about AMD, haven't had one since the HD 3870 and then 4890. Both failed. GTX 580 still works, but I don't have the means for modern comparison.
I am very opinionated, and don't engage in self delusion as far as what I have the ability to predict. Everyone has heuristics, and if you aren't actively iterating on them, or even worse, not using them, then you're wasting your time and wasting your life in a self induced myopic haze of false confusion!
>>54848647
Zen is on schedule, new APUs available as of now already. What GPU will be integrated in the new APUs, anons?
Stoney Ridge is a little slower but has a TDP of 15W, Bristol has a 35W TDP.
Might get a new laptop soon, desu.
>>54848647
I always buy AMD so I'm happy they are doing well. I currently have an R9 270x. Is the 480 a substantial upgrade even though I still have the old Phenom II X3 720 processor with unlocked core? My Phenom is still working fine for 7 years now. Still waiting for the AM4 before I upgrade.
>>54851563
In regards to VR performance with the state of current VR games out right now basically in beta, along with the ppc versus past generations the 1080 is solid.
Again, I'm waiting for the final verdict on what the vendors and AMD can put out there, but from what i see so far, 1080 looks good for the extra $200.
>>54851522
This is what I am hoping. I used to use AMD until they sucked and I had to jump on the Core bandwagon because Intel got lucky. Intel doing small incremental upgrades in performance while AMD has been poorly improving CPU performance compared to the newer Intel has always sucked. I just want Intel to learn their lesson in letting AMD actually catch up after all these years. The Intel-Nvidia gamer system has been prolific for so long.
>Need 2 AYYMD HOUSEFIRE CARDS to VR, 300W HOUSEFIRES
NVIDIA WON
>>54851926
>51% utilization
Shill please.
Besides that the tdp is yet unknown but it is said to be <150tdp
>housefire
It runs cooler than nvidia for sure due to the lower clock & smaller/more efficient die
This is a card that is vr capable (on its own mind you) with 980/390x tier performance for $199 with async compute. They fucking did it.
>>54849140
Of course. A CF with 2 units is 4fps behind a 1080 that costs anywhere between $700-1000 --- and it's ONLY at 51% utilization because of alpha drivers. A cf polaris setup will most certainly beat a 1070.
Not only that but I wouldn't believe a 1070 going for less than or equal to $400 until a couple of months. Not so sure now though since polaris 10 is a solid win.
Thread theme https://youtu.be/Wfzp4cdcuYc
>>54852350
Damn this is fucking banging
>>54849336
>VR works BETTER with two GPUs
No.
When it comes to VR, SLI/Crossfire is actually not at all advantageous. The reason for this is that with such a setup you need to copy a frame from one GPU to the other (the one with the output), and that introduces too much latency. The less latency you have, the better; no "buts," Why else do you think AMD's first "VR-Ready GPU" was the R9 Fury X2?
>>54852508
Not to mention there isn't a single virtual reality hardware manufacturer out there whose HMDs support SLI/Crossfire for that same reason.
>>54849341
AMDcucks will be on suicide watch. I can't wait to see their poorfag tears while trying to justify how amd is still relevant.
>>54852546
I'm sorry you overspent on an GPU that will set your mom's boyfriend's home on fire.
>>54851071
I'd take the left one
>>54851319
Hello fellow CPA GSL Anon
Waiting for the results on the 17th?
>>54852584
Not quite sure what that is. Sorry.
>>54851071
>he thinks any company cares for more than his money
>>54851548
And being the most popular card on steam, it's still only 5% of the market share. HD4000 has almost as many users.
What does that tell you?
>>54849266
6 figures? Kid, that aint anything. I have 6 figure mortgage. I have 7 figure loans for my company.
Gtfo.
>>54849266
Not rich enough to afford a keyboard with a shift key, it would seem.
>>54851548
Steam statistics don't matter because only technologically illiterate cucks would install a spyware like Steam.
>>54848647
>tfw based AMD is going to save me from the hell that is Nvidia Kepler ownership
Of course, their inability to keep R9 290s stocked during the bitcoin boom is how I ended up here in the first place, but I'll let it slide because its so cheap.
>29th June
>Another month of waiting
Just kill me now.
>>54853004
>tfw waited for 3 months already since my card died.
>>54852783
>being proud of a 7 figure debt
Are you retarded? Why do I bother, of course you are if you took out a 7 figure debt you colossal dip.
Enjoy your foreclosure & lifetime of debt.
>>54853004
>>54853025
Don't be too bitter when the first batch is tiny and sells out before you can get one.
>>54853366
To be honest i dont think there will be shortage like with new nvidia cards.
>>54851488
But nobody cares about Xbone games. PS4 uses its own API that probably has more in common with Vulkan.
>>54853401
>New architecture.
>Likely a bit rushed since Nvidia launched new cards.
>Going to be available in large numbers
I'll believe it when I se- Actually no. I simply cannot suspend my disbelief that much.
>>54853419
>that probably has more in common with Vulkan.
you have no idea what you are talking about. leave /g/
>>54848647
When is it available for pre-order?
>>54853444
from the top of my head the 29th. but honestly im not sure
>>54853430
I'm not tech expert but from what i heard those cards are easy and cheap to produce. I hope i`m right.
>>54853348
Not that guy, but you have to be kidding. Businesses regularly take out huge loans into order to produce large volumes of stuff before they launch it, to invest in R&D, and all sorts of other reasons. It typically gets paid back pretty quickly, and if not quickly they still keep it sustainable for the business most of the time. Almost everything you own was probably produced on credit unless you buy from companies that have enormous cash reserves like Apple.
>>54853451
Jesus fuck.
>>54853474
how wrong was I?
>>54853437
>do you have a single fact to back that up.jpg
>>54853487
just get out
>>54853467
>i heard those cards are easy and cheap to produce
Where did you hear it? AMD forums?
>>54853487
Fuck off J.C.
>>54853499
Just various tech resources. I don't visit AMD forums.
>>54850479
The 490/x series will be the Vega 10 aka little Vega, which is supposedly 40% faster than the Fury X. The flagship will be Vega 11. Quit being fucking retarded.
>>54851342
>believing in NVIDIA lies
We also must say AMD is really a dumb company at marketing, but you are too.
150w in the rx 480 refers to the MAXIMUM power the card can draw being powered by a 6 pin connector plus 75w of the pci express slot, amount that will never be reached unless you start overvolting. So at stock speeds the card should draw 120w or less. Meanwhile gtx 1070 maximum power draw is 225w being powered by an 8 pin connector (150w) plus the pci express slot. But they declare that it draws only 150w average, which is false as every TDP declared since maxwell
>tfw stock market doesn't open for like 2 hours
>>54848647
based raja koduri
>left amd, amd became shit
>came back and made amd great again
http://www.pcper.com/files/review/2016-04-29/GTAV_3840x2160_PLOT.png
>AYYMD
TOP KEK
>>54850479
the shills are out in full force already, nice
>>54853499
they delayed it just to mass produce enough, they know it's going to sell well and must hurry before 1060
I never heard of shortage of $200 cards
>>54854347
That's like looking at a car crash
>>54851342
Fucking kill yourself Kyle
>>54849297
ultimate shitposting
>>54851611
I also own an R9 270x with 2gb and an FX 8320. I don't even feel the need to upgrade yet, because I chose 144 herz over 4k
>>54848647
We don't even have any fucking performance numbers. Holy shit. It could be great, it could be garbage. We literally have no idea. Calm down on the dick sucking for one fucking moment.
>>54855145
/thread
>>54855145
cf 480 bested the 1080 by 10%.
>>54849071
This, the amount of dedicated pc players and high end pc parts is already niche. The highest end is even more niche. AMD can make out just fine dominating the low and midrange cards like they always have. Not everyone is so autistic they need 120 fps at 4k to be happy. Most gamers are at 720 or 1080p and at that res the 480 at $200 will dominate.
>3FPS faster
>300W power consumption, inefficient as hell
LOL AMDPOORFAGS
>>54848647
It does make me a bit wet thinking of all the new owners that are able to purchase a high performance card for $200. Really makes a strong case for building a PC vs console. Vr, and a console killer for $200.
I am also giddy at the prospect of cheap, cool itx sized cards.
>>54852783
>being proud of a 7 figure debt
Americans
>>54853499
You can look at the Die size of the GPU
Smaller Die = Less Defect in a batch = More Availability.
Die size is also what drives the price very much so..
If your Sillicon Walfer has always about the same defect due to dust and other impurity. so the smaller size die means less of the GPU are effected = better price and Yield.
>>54855269
Kid you couldn't imagine a pair of R7 360s beating a 980 in CF. This is exactly that. Not only that but it's not even meant to compete with the 1080 yet it beats it for about 35% cheaper.
>>54848698
Zen is geared to compete against Intel’s Haswell-E and Broadwell-E products.
From my experience, most of what the enthusiast market is interested in is overclocking. Broadwell cant even get past 4.0ghz on air. There's an opportunity if these Summit-Ridge desktop CPUs can beat that.
>>54855319
>high performance
>need 2 cards to even get 60 fps
>crossfire always has problems
>>54855969
Kid you couldn't imagine a pair of R7 360s beating a 980 in CF. This is exactly that. Not only that but it's not even meant to compete with the 1080 yet it beats it for about 35% cheaper.
>>54856011
>in one benchmark
Let me know when AMD has decent Linux drivers.
Y'know, the kind that actually let the card use it's full potential
>>54856050
More to come on June 29 no doubt.
>AYYMD NEEDS 300W HOUSEFIRES TO COMPETE WITH GTX 1080
>>54855104
>>54851611
144hrz on a 270... you fucking kidding me?
that said, a 270 may be more of a bottleneck then the cpu, for me i have a 280x, i know my cpu is more of a bottleneck, and in some games my ddr2 ram.
that said, im still considering getting a 480 at launch after i see a few dx11 benchmarks, i would love to make my cpu the bottleneck 100% of the time.
heres hopeing on zen.
The longer I scroll the more nvidia shills I see
>>54852943
lol, the coin miners bought as many gpus as they had slots, some of them buying upwards 50 if the places let them.
those cunts are the reason i had to wait nearly 6 months to upgrade.
why do you guys care so much about video cards
there aren't even any good games out right now
>>54856168
This
>>54855198
single 480 may be able to do that as the cf was fucked on that benchmark.
>>54849273
Someone's mad they're retarded.
>>54856118
>>54855969
>>54855269
>>54851926
>>54851549
>>54851342
You would do the gene-pool a great service if you killed yourselves immediately.
>>54853430
You have it exactly backwards.
Nvidia had to rush their shitty Pascal housefires because they knew AMD would utterly dominate them otherwise.
>>54849046
high end is a meme
only reviewers who get shit for free actually own dual Titan cards
you'd have to be retarded to buy that yourself
>>54856271
go buy ayyemmdee then, poorfag.
ill just enjoy my top of the line gpus.
>>54849200
wow why don't you whine about it like a baby
>>54849256
damn you're so mad
>>54856294
Lol the 1080ti/vega isnt even out yet, have fun with your soon© obsoleted 1070/1080
>>54855269
What a huge faggot is for you too hard understanding that the rx 480 will draw something like 110-120 watts? Even in crossfire is almost more power efficient than your 225w housefire
>>54849305
>comparing an overpriced manchild workstation to an essential living arrangement or required transportation
>>54849120
And if nvidintel has to compete, then we all still win.
>>54855319
Why do you think Sony and MS are both bringing out updated versions of their current gen consoles? It's because AMD's new APUs are going to smoke the old ones they've got now. Consoles already look like jokes now, imagine in a few months.
>>54852766
People don't disable internal graphics in the bios?
>>54856335
>he doesn't have the expendable income to buy cards every release
stay poor
>>54851342
Nvidia went for performance/watt
AMD went for performance/$
The later is much better for desktops.
>>54855725
My fab has 98.9% wafer yield on average. Rekt
>>54856168
overwatch -_-
>>54856011
kys
AYYMD is not back in any game, they're pretty much dead & bankrupt
>>54856634
die
>>54849297
kek
