http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-480-polaris-10-graphics-card-leak/
10% cheaper 390 with muh low power consumption. Pathetic
>>54837515
More like a 40% cheaper Fury with half the power consumption.
>>54837515
It's pretty clear AMD isn't competing at all with the GTX 1070 or 1080. They are going for the low-end market.
This is just the 480, not the 480x. And it's pretty good for the ~250$ it will cost.
>>54837413
390/980 performance for $250 and 150 Watts. Sounds impressive. Can't wait for the itx cards to drop.
>>54837602
It's pretty clear that Vega will compete with the 1070 and 1080.
>>54837696
>150W
Lolwut? Polaris 11 is 50W and its half the diesize of Polaris 10, P10 can't be 150W even if it was clocked to the moon outside of its clock sweet spot.
Also 1x6pin just means that the theoretical max it can draw is 150W, it won't be anywhere close to that.
>>54837707
The article was only refering to the Polaris and so was I. As was the poster I was replying too.
>>54837413
So what's the point of the 460? A competitor to the 750Ti?
Ouch, AMD is hitting where it hurts, power consumption.
>currytech
>again
One day you'll learn that they're a rumour mill of complete nonsense, but today is not that day.
Remember, the bullshit they print as news is only bullshit if it slags off the people you like
>>54837413
The GTX 1070 has 18% more throughput (6.5 TFLOPS FP32 vs 5.5 TFLOPS FP32.)
It also costs 52% more ($249 vs $379.)
The 480 is far, far better value and you're an idiot if you but a 1070 at this point. NVDIA is going to have to cut its prices.
>$250
Luv u AMD bby
>>54837752
460 is closer to the gtx 760 in terms of performance so it probably slightly slower than a 960, but for under 50 watts thats still impressive. I might pick two of these and crossfire them with my 450 watt psu
>>54837726
Ok that's even better. Still excited for p11 itx card.
If AMD can provide 980 performance under 120W then that's fantastic.
My choice is between the 1070 and the 480x but I'm not going to assume anything hing from specs. I want benchmarks yo.
>>54837847
But then power consumption won't matter and it'll be performance under any cost like it was with Fermi and the last time ATi/AMD competed with a smaller die.
>>54837782
You are forgetting that TFLOPS do not reflect in equivalent performance between AMD and Nvidia. A 390X has +6TFLOPS for example.
That said, 480 is going to be good for 1080p, and VR will use dx12, so I am pretty confident, even with all limitations, the 480 will beat 1070 in a year/year and a half in games released then.
>>54837860
Amd has said that polaris wont compete with the high end nvidia cards, thats vega.
My budget is only 300 dollars so I might switch from my mini 760 to an amd polaris if they release an itx. If nvidia does meets my requirments first then ill stick with nvidia
The only thing I see in this is direct X 12. Hows it do with Vulcan? fuck direct x.
I am expecting the green red fanwars to be in reverse this time with Nvidia fans claiming power consumption doesn't matter this time around.
>power consumption
Literailly no one fucking cares
>>54837906
>>54837909
nice timing
>>54837909
>>54837906
Like clock work
>>54837906
I'm up for it, like that retard from a few days ago claiming each 50W from the GPU increases room ambient temps by 3 degrees
>buying Nvidia with all the gameworks shit they pull
never again.
>>54837927
Don't forget the hardware DRM in 1080.
>>54837925
>turn on 3 lightbulbs
>don't need AC/heater/radiator in winter
Whew lad, thanks for informing me.
>>54837906
>>54837909
i'm dying over here
>>54837909
Each manufacturer has been focusing on lowering energy requirements. Literally kill yourself.
DESIGNATED
>>54837906
Fucking AMD. I just bought a Nvidia card for the low power consumption. Now I have buyers remorse.
>>54837906
>>54837909
That was fast sempai
>>54837925
I was on that thread...and good it was fucking stupid,
This gen mid-tier card performing like last year's high-tier card seems pretty standard for GPUs.
>>54837413
Holy shit, this is awesome, glad I didn't order the 1080 yet. Wait and see what this gives.
so what you're all saying is, I should get the 480 when it comes out?
So the housefires have changed places once again.
Is this 480X or 480? If it's the non X, then this is fantastic, otherwise, it's pretty damn good, but not fantastic.
Not going to replace my R9 290 until I can double the performance spending the same $215 I spent in early 2014.
Am I still waiting?
>>54837413
>referencing a poo-in-loo website
>>54838026
Absolutely, especially when talking about Broadwell-E Haswell-E 2: The Prescott Boogaloo.
>>54837906
10/10, have my dubz
>>54838050
I want to say, that is the Non X variant.
And the X variant will cope the 1070/FuryX/TitanX/980Ti at 300-350 dollars.
If it goes this way i will go team AMD. If not 1070 will be.
IMHO: I want to be on team AMD this time, they put so much effort despite the loo, Nvidia is brettygud, but i wont allow them to try scam me with their Founders Edition and then with locked cards for overclocking, if i buy Nvidia i think i will buy eVGA.
Please make 480 200$ AMD, i'm poor
NVIDIA WON
>>54837563
480 / x will only hit 390 / x levels max
>>54837602
480 is mid range
>>54837668
Eh, price/performance may not be any better than 1070. I want 390 performance for 200-225
Also for VR Simultaneous Multiprojection might be a gamechanger. 480 is EXTREME budget VR capable is AMD doesn't have some Liquid VR tricks up its sleeves
>>54837839
I'm looking forward to 460/470 benchmarks in Fallout 4 and Witcher 3. If it's actually the 460 (c'mon it's currytech), that's too bad. I want the 470
>>54838051
Yup, not going to happen til 580/1160
>>54838084
>The Prescott Boogaloo.
Holy fuck sempai.
I'm not a very smart man.
Is it worth it to upgrade from a 280x to a 480?
some people just want a cheap video card because thats all they can afford, and they want it to be better than other cheap video cards or at best, better than more expensive video cards which some AMD cards do well.
>>54838084
Broadwell-E is fine, it's just that it turns into a nuclear weapon when overclocked, Presshot was shit just idling.
tl;dr just get a fucking Xeon then.
>>54837933
>hardware DRM in 1080.
Wat
>390x/980 performance for $250
Is this fucking serious
>>54838165
I sold my 280x on ebay for 190USD (it was an OC'd version). I'm planning on getting either the 480 or 470, but waiting for the cards doesn't bother me.. I'm going to wait until NVIDIA comes out with 1050/1060 to see what's up with low/mid range cards
>>54838159
>>54838159
Those old ferromagnetic inductors.
Don't see them anymore..
>>54837909
BTFO
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>>54838178
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayReady
>>54838178
Its on german so use translate
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Grafikkarte-Nvidia-GeForce-GTX-1070-Schnell-teuer-und-mit-Hardware-DRM-3222404.html?wt_mc=rss.ho.beitrag.atom
>>54837906
>>54837909
False flag accomplished.
>>54838155
Even if my 520 watt PSU could have supported a 390 I'm glad I waited for these power consumption drops.
>>54838171
>haswell-e can be overclocked over 4ghz even on air
>broadlel-e
>pic related
>480 successor
>cut power use in half
>increased performance up to 40%
This is quite nice.
Still, waiting for something faster, I got a good monitor so a waste to leave it unused.
>>54838023
Wait for the benchmarks.
>>54837413
>256-bit
the fuck thats low for amd
>>54838236
Holy shit. Vega needs to deliver.
>>54837413
>currytech
Two 480s for $400-500?
That is 11TFLOPs compared to 8.9 of the 1080 for $200 cheaper.
This with async compute and a longer lasting architecture.
>>54837970
Has not been the case for the last 4 years
>>54838253
And my 5820k sits happily at 4.3GHz all day long on a CLC. God I feel bad for anyone who went with a Skylake i7 for the same money (they were actually higher when I got my CPU. Saved $60~ when I bought Haswell E instead).
Question is, how much will it overclock? Most sites put it in around 1.25-1.3GHz range.
Imagine it overclocking to 1.6GHz?
>>54837413
This is f*cking great.
Please also note clock speed : 1350. A bigger nvidia on the same process can go turbo to 1733 MHz.
I think this card will be an amazing overclocker.
>>54838365
If it's 980/390X performance at stock, that OC would put it somewhere near the 980Ti
>>54838236
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.heise.de%2Fnewsticker%2Fmeldung%2FGrafikkarte-Nvidia-GeForce-GTX-1070-Schnell-teuer-und-mit-Hardware-DRM-3222404.html%3Fwt_mc%3Drss.ho.beitrag.atom
if someone is lazy.
Doesn't matter how fantastic AMD's gpu is, it will still be outsold by Nvidia because Nvidia has an actual functioning marketing division.
AMD needs more than informed tech forum/site readers.
>>54838337
I tell this to everyone who asks whether the 6700k or the 5820k is better. The 5820k is nearly guaranteed to be stable at ~4.4ghz, the 6700k performs the same as the 4790k and Z170 and X99 motherboards cost similarly. Since broadlel-e turned out to be a housefire money grab attempt too, so I'll probably buy a 5820k.
I'm just hoping it doesn't repeat the "over clickers dream" that happens with the Fury series and some of the 1080s
>>54838155
480 outperforms the 390 with no per core improvements dude.
It explicitly competes with the 980, which always tended to be above the 390X in most DX11 games. You're looking at around 980 Ti performance from the 480X, as it's already confirmed to have 25% more shaders, and thats assuming the clocks will be the same.
I seriously hope that the 460 rumor is somwhat true since I would love to have a single slot card to put into my media pc to give it some umph.
>>54838459
Buy Intel's Iris Pro
What is with AMD and trying to compete with Intel or Nvidias last gen tech?
They won't get ahead playing catchup
>>54838477
Thats what im using
Iris pro 5200.
Its quite old and I just use it to stream from my main pc. But I wouldnt mind giving my router a break as my kids are growing up and using more and more bandwith
>>54838242
Yeah, my 280x pumped so much heat into my room.
>>54838333
780Ti = 970
980Ti = 1070
7970 = 280x
Only problem with AMD's 300 series is that the Fury wasn't much better than 390
>>54838365
Good question. My guess is that if the cards don't overclock well they aren't that different from previous GCN, kinda like Pascal doesn't overclock well means that it's similar to Maxwell. AMD / NVIDIA have milked the architecture for all it's worth
>>54838454
>480 outperforms the 390
Citation needed. Fewer TFlops IIRC
280x > 380x btw
are u guys just doing it for the lulz. these pointless arguing?
>>54838488
They're nothing catch up about Polaris
>>54838560
There are reasons to be mad at both amd and nvidia (ie bricking cards), but im sure most of this is just /v/ seeping through onto /g/
>>54838253
>taking a screenshot on a mobile
consider your life choices
>>54838566
Polaris is being more compared to the 7/900 series rather than 1000.
The 1000 is now current, and the others last generation.
So yes, it's catch up.
>>54838446
I can recommend it. Upgraded due to encoding software putting strain on my i5 and now times have been over halved. Combine that with future ability to drop nearly any Xeon on the board and it should last me some time. More processing power than I could have hoped for, over clocks really really well, and my temps aren't bad for where the tower is located. Future fileserver is going to be nice m8.
>>54838647
So yes you are a shill.
>>54838677
alright.
>>54838609
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i7-broadwell-e-6950x-6900k-6850k-6800k,4587-7.html
Scroll to the bottom, now do us all a favor and kill yourself.
When will AMD come up with a 1080 or 1080Ti competitor? Might considering buying two because my 1080s run pretty hot.
>Have Fury X
>Will get second Fury X if Fury X drops in price
>Remain relevant for quite some time, as Raja plans to make crossfire a priority
>DX12 makes crossfire potentially better
>Win
>>54838739
1080 competitor was suposed to come out in 2017, however rumors say it was pushed to be released at the end of this year
>>54838768
Enjoy your 600 Watt housefire. Sell your Fury and buy Vega
>>54838821
Only if it comes to be a worthwhile upgrade. Otherwise I'm waiting for Navi.
crossfire is allot better then nvidia SLI, amd don't even use bridges, completely removes bottlenecks.
not even nvidicucks can say otherwise.
>>54838821
Oh, also
>Housefire
>On a custom loop water cooling system
Even if it wasn't open loop, even if they both had their separate cooler, how would it be a housefire when the hottest they get is 65c?
>>54838647
It's not, currently the 1000 series have no cards at the price range Polaris targets
>>54837413
how does 1070 compare to those cards?
>>54837909
>>54837906
Same fag is the same.
polaris will ruin nvidia in the midrange, high end cards, most people don't buy enthusiast cards like the 1080.
>>54838957
they were posted at the same time, so no.
TEAM RED fuck yeah!
>>54838948
Unfortunetly amd has no competitor for the 1070 with polaris
>>54838976
> two devices connected to the internet?
> That's unpossible!
>mfw 480 are regular clocked Polaris
>490 are better binned Polaris overclocked to hell
There's your lineup until Vega
>>54838976
There is a 29 second difference so it is possible
>>54838997
It's not, the minimum between posts is 30 second, on /g/ it's a minute iirc
>>54839020
Faggot
>>54839020
Faggot
>>54839055
Yeah, he might have scripts set up to shitpost and a few hundred proxy's and passes
>>54838274
You have no idea why they were forced to use a fuckhuge bus last gen, do you?
WE WON BOYS! NVIDIA IS FINISHED AMD BANKRUPT!
>>54839070
>>54839071
Well that settles it
>>54837906
>>54837909
AYY. DAMAGE CONTROR!
>>54839094
>Yeah, he might have scripts set up to shitpost and a few hundred proxy's and passes
It's not that complicated when all you want to do is make two shitposts. hth
>>54838337
They are not now. And I hate it for people that had to buy ddr4 more than 6 months ago.
>>54837413
So i get a great GPU for 250$ and it runs cool and quiet?
I can't wait to get
>>54839163
>AMD
>cool
dude?
>>54839206
100something tdp
it can't possibly be hot, lol.
Unlike 1080 which throttles itself with reference cooler.
![Butthurt+jews+faces+when+i+_2fc87e720f5ead87c4b3b482f9f2e866[3].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/hoAVQtH.jpg "Butthurt+jews+faces+when+i+_2fc87e720f5ead87c4b3b482f9f2e866[3].jpg")
NVIDIA SHILLS AT SUICIDE WATCH!
>>54837906
>>54837909
>>54839206
>What was Fermi
Nvidia only managed to take the performance/watt and low temperature stance with Maxwell.
Even Kepler wasn't anything astounding, though it was when compared to Fermi.
It was only with Hawaii (reference coolers) that AMD got a name for running hot.
Faggot.
>>54839206
>you
>not new
The only AMD GPU that have run hot in the last 6 years was Hawaii, and that's solely due to the awful reference cooler.
>>54838829
>>54838904
All that heat just magically disappears? No, anon, it's in your room. You can sidegrade for Vega and then CF with way better efficiency / thermals
>>54838895
SLI just got a huge boost, so scaling is about the same as CF. Also CF does have a connector. Amazing multigpu isn't here yet
>>54838539
In most cases a (4GB) 380X is 95% of a 7970Ghz (same as a 280X you idiot) at 25 watts less power draw.
>fewer Tflops
Tflops are a purely theoretical calculation like Gpixels, Gtexels, etc., and only give a marketing number.
Fury has more FLOPs than a 290X yet you also said it doesn't perform "much better"
Again, you're an idiot.
>>54837413
That's pretty great for $300. How is this bad ?
>>54839294
Its bad because.. because... POO IN LOO!
t. nvidia shill
>>54839277
>Sidegrade, ever worth it
I bought the Fury X for 520GBP on launch. Why the hell would I go and sell it for whatever it goes for and buy Vega for what is again going to be around 500GBP if not more?
Unless Vega came up as 400GBP for the highest tier, I wouldn't even want to consider it because there'd be no point.
Waiting for Navi is the real sweetspot for upgrading early, or waiting for the next gen from that would be the best price/performance increase choice.
>>54837782
I don't care what the "value" is when games run at 52 fps instead of 62 fps.
>>54839305
No, seriously, I've never seen this much good news about AMD (CPU and GPU) since forever. Has the shilling got out of control on /g/ .
>>54837847
>then that's fantastic
Electricity that expensive where you live?
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BuInO0f.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>wait till 2017
>>54839283
You're repeating what I correctly asserted as if somehow you're right and I'm wrong, so get fucked cunt
>RX480
>$199-$249
>~110-135W
it is exactly what I wanted to come out of AMD
I am not poor but seeing people casually talking like buying $400-$600 seems absolutely crazy to me
since I was kid we always bought mid tier, from 3870 to gtx460 to 285
I guess people want AMD to succeed in all brackets and slice out bigger market share and bring more competition and better prices, thats why wish for powerful top tier gpus
but I really juwst wish power, power efficient $200-250 gpus capable to play any modern game on ultra at 60-80FPS
>>54839325
There was shitload of nvidia shills recently. Some even admitted that they get paid for posting here.
>>54839326
Its not electricity my itx case runs hot with my mini gtx 760 thats all. This might be a worthy side grade
>>54839356
>since I was kid we always bought mid tier,
Same. Mid tier usually has the best price to performance ratio. I'm not spending more than 250$ on a GPU.
>>54839311
>>Sidegrade, ever worth it
>I bought the Fury X for 520GBP on launch. Why the hell would I go and sell it for whatever it goes for and buy Vega for what is again going to be around 500GBP if not more?
Sell your Fury to some unsuspecting cunt, also I would imagine that Vega will compete with the 1070 (Fury performance) at about the same price, <400USD.
>>54838321
SLI/CF is pretty more never a great idea, especially over time.
If you want strong performance and need it now, just bite the pillow, since Nvidia is coming in dry for the 1070/1080 as usual.
But Polaris 10 is only a ~230 mm^2 chip, so expect Vega to be substantially beefier if you want to wait for Nvidia to be pushed towards a price drop or just refuse to buy them this round.
Nvidia makes 1000$GPUs
AMD makes 1000$ gaming rigs
MAKE PC GREAT AGAIN
*chanting 'ZEN ZEN ZEN'*
>>54839356
Fucking this, anon! Fucking this!
/thread
>>54838211
You do.
You just don't recognize them anymore.
They grew up and became these blocks.
retard here
How good is Crossfire? Is it worth buying one 480 now and after some time another or should I just buy a decent card now?
Also is crossfire compatible with different cards?
I'm not much of a gamer but I want to finally be able to play the new games
>>54839443
Are they inside or are they some different type of inductor?
Also, aren't those VRM?
>>54839449
You'll be fine with playing "the new games" with a single 480, if you wanna pay double the price might as well get a gtx 1070
>>54839449
>one 480 now and after some time another
Actually yes.
You will get above the top performance and it will be good.
Don't listen to jackshit, it's good.
In dx12 you get DOUBLE performance which will be absolutely blazing, in dx11 you will get 1.5 performance which will beat a 1080.
>>54839464
they are smaller inductors in a magnetic box
>>54839449
Just buy one card now and then sell it and buy a more powerful card later when price drops. You'd still spend less money than buying a more powerful one just from the start.
>>54838819
>however rumors say it was pushed to be released at the end of this year
This rumor has been debunked. They stated quite clearly just last week that Vega is a 2017 product and Polaris is it for several quarters.
>>54839464
the VRMs are flat little chips sitting under the heat sinks, which generate by far the most heat.
the caps and inductors just level out the PWM output from the VRMs, which ideally doesn't waste any power and in practice loses almost too little to care about.
>>54839317
This is a joke right?
It's really sad how some people actually think this way, and pretend to be some hardcore pro gamers who need that 3fps gain each generation because without it they won't be able to be competitive. The mindset is so immature and lacks self-awareness, but at least computer parts are relatively cheap to other expenses in life, I guess.
>>54839495
>>54839479
A friend of mine just told me that SLI/crossfire support is shit, how true is this?
>>54839356
I never buy anything other than mid-tier either.
After seeing this, i'm glad I waited and didn't buy anything last year.
This time i'm considering Polaris 11 though.
>>54839443
>>54839517
is there a reason the new designs seem more susceptible to inductor hum (magnetostriction?) than the old coils?
or is it just that newer cards drive the power systems a lot harder?
>>54839529
It's official, AMD is dead.
Dat madfags shilling
>>54839449
forget about crossfire
every single noob when starting with PC tech thinks going for it will be cool and saves cash while giving large FPS increase
consider how huge jump was gtx970/gtx980 against gtx770 when they were released
and how large jump is gtx1080 against gtx980 and similarly 1070 against 970
just avoid driver issues, power consumption, and pain in the ass stuttering and realize that going single card with decent power will be enough for years
>>54839412
> RADEON GRAPHICS AMD is literally Tron jail
>>54839556
it's mostly true and will become moreso with DX12/Vulkan, where explicit multi-GPU is handled independently by each game engine instead of by card vendor driver teams.
>>54839552
>just avoid driver issues
Oy wey
Weren't that Nvidia who are known for
- releasing driver that roasts GPU dead
- Releasing a driver that glitches the games hard
- Releasing the driver that kills your system and makes you remove GPU from mobo
- Releasing a driver that nerfed 770 to sell 9xx
Oh right, at least those aren't those dreaded AMD drivers.
AMD does great ffs.
![6ae[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FGMAPoe.jpg "6ae[1].jpg")
>>54839556
Semi-true
>SLI
It is getting better lately.
>crossfire
>dat screen tearing
>dat stuttering game
>fell for that meme
>>54839567
both
Hah, so this was pretty spot on afterall, even though they missed the names.
>>54839602
I was talking about crossfire/sli drivers issues
games need extra work on optimalization
not all titles are supported and you get microsttuter because of the nature of running 2 cards
not some general drivers complains
>>54839623
God I wish they'd use some actually useful bench instead of that fucking synthetic crap.
>>54839623
>above gtx980
>$250
please lord Linus Torvalds be true
>>54839623
How are the names wrong?
>>54839623
>this at under 120W
I guess suicide watches are in order.
>>54839648
>Polaris dx12 test
>Nvidia ass is blasted wide open by a 250$ card
They would get sued for causing nvidiots suicide
>>54839622
ok, but what is it with the new coils that makes them vibrate more?
the sound can be so fucking annoying that I'm amazed that consumers wouldn't prefer marginally bigger/more expensive/whatever inductors.
>>54839663
No longer 480X, it's RX 480 now.
Don't know the name for the binned P10 though, probably R(something not X) 480
>>54837782
Paper specs mean nothing. It benchmarks with the 970. That's all that matters.
>>54839623
I don't understand this.
the lowest is 480, Polaris 10?
Mid is 490, Polaris 11?
High is new Fury, VEGA?
>>54838539
>Citation needed. Fewer TFlops IIRC
390 is a 2560 shader part with 1000mhz core clock, resulting in 5.1 TFLOP's
390X is 2816 shader w/ 1050mhz, 5.9 TFLOP's
As the 480 is advertised as 5.5 TFLOP's, we already know it outperforms a 390; but as Polaris is focused on per core performance, it would only need a piddily 8% improvement to near the 390X. They've already put out figures like 25% improvement per core per clock, with 16% alone from the geo cull engine. This would allow the 480 to approach near Fury performance.
>280x > 380x btw
Maybe if you crank the res to 4k yeah. 380X wasn't particularly ambitious.
>>54839707
Top to bottom
Polaris 10 crossfire
Polaris 10
Polaris 10 bin
>>54839729
bin?
>>54839679
>ok, but what is it with the new coils that makes them vibrate more?
Current.
Alternating/oscilating/non-constant current makes oscilating force within the coil.
The force inevitably makes it squeze/deform and make sound. All AC transformers vibrte and hum at 50hz because of 50hz current.
The old ones had a loose wire on a donut it's coil turns were away from each other and it wasn't fit tight into a box, it could move around and so on.
>>54839745
Means the cheaper scavenged Polaris 10 chip that failed validation for the full GPU due to some defect.
>>54839765
why would that be in any kind of test?
>>54839729
Oh god, then it's all Polaris 10? Jesus christ they're incredibly powerful for the price then, i'm aiming for Polaris 11
Man I really hope they are.
>>54839102
educate me
>>54839780
Not him but I assume they become 470 or something, the lowest range cards.
>>54839780
That would be 470
sub flagships are basicly defective flagships, and low end cards are just mutilated flaghips chips.
It's easier to make a lot of one thing than to make different series.
Remember tri-core processors with unlockable fourth core?
Remember hacking your 9870 to become 9880?
>>54839623
>DX11
AHAHAHA. That last one is crossfire isn't it? Jesus christ they needed to use DX11 so that crossfire doesn't BTFO the 1080
Fucking pathetic
After it was shown that Pascal was overclocked Maxwell with the SMs shuffled around a bit, how would you not know AMD would shank Nvidia on power with a brand new architecture when the Nano went head-to-head with Nvidia's most efficient card, the 980 last gen?
>>54839623
>Fury/980 level performance
> $250
Have the guys at the RTD finally remembered what their market is?
They've never been able to compete at the top end, and probably never will. They do a phenomenal job at bang-for-your-buck though. Great to see them back in form.
Dudes you are talking like AMD has released their GPUs and they've been tested and tried
>>54839780
They become the next x70 cards.
Which is incredible considering it beats the 970, a card that can play any game in 1080p ultra settings.
>>54838023
If the benchmarks are where they should be, yes.
>>54839623
I really hope it'll overclock like mad.
Imagine it passing 980Ti performance at that puny wattage?
>>54839833
>They've never been able to compete at the top end, and probably never will.
Why would you say that when you can see the lowest end cards performing that well? And we know absolutely nothing of VEGA
>>54839833
2016
Needing to be told that a computer isn't an investment and gets obsolete faster than anything else in history.
>>54839824
Nvidia's entire Pascal effort seemed to have gone into GP100, not that strange considering their DPFP cards are already like 3 years old.
>>54838023
>when it comes out
Don't do that, you wait at least a month. I mean AMD cards are known for getting better performance after release. Like the 390 beating the 980 now when it sucked before that
>>54839794
>>54839102
Educate me while you're at it fampai
>>54839876
Vega has already been confirmed to be roughly a 1070 and launching at around the same time as the 1080ti.
When can we actually expect the cards to be widely available for consumers, a few months?
I just built babby's first rig and I am waiting for the new cards to be released.
Power consumption doesn't matter now, right?
480 or 1070
Why don't they just do a dual chip card and sell it less than a GTX 1080?
Why are dual chip cards only on the Uber high-end?
>>54839926
1080 you little faggot
>>54839833
>They've never been able to compete at the top end, and probably never will.
Are you retarded, or just a teenager?
The Radeon Technology Group started around 2000 when ATI bought ArtX and turned out the R300/9700 Pro, which dominated the high end for more than entire product cycle.
Likewise, some of the TeraScale architecture chips did very well at the high end too.
GCN hasn't been great for them, but that's not the entirety of their history.
I hope the Polaris won't be shit.
NVidia shills can't win all the time.
>>54839899
>Vega has already been confirmed to be roughly a 1070
Just like Polaris was garbage, right?
>>54839911
not for desktop machines unless utility companies are greedy as shit where you live
otherwise it's a matter of a few bucks a year
>>54839926
wait for release, and proper benchmarking from multiple sources
>>54839899
Nothing has been confirmed, it's a HBM2 card and a successor to the Fury line, it being 10% faster than the last gen is complete nonsense.
And if it's gonna be around 380-420mm2 like I expect it to be, it's gonna absolutely demolish the GP104 and pretty much on par with GP102
>>54839926
Not in the same league.
it will compete with a GTX 1060
>>54839938
it'll bottleneck with my i5
>>54839899
Man that must be some good shit you're smoking
>>54839899
>480 crossfire around 1080 tier in fucking DX11
>VEGA is 1070 tier
Sure buddy
>j-just wait for Polaris
>it will change everything
>b-but the next line will surely be better
It's time to let go /g/.
>>54839955
where is the 1070/80 competitor then
>>54839926
What kinda question is this? Wait for benchmark then compare performance to price ration on both. Decide how much you want to spend. Thats it.
>>54839955
no shit. 1070 will be $400-$450, and RX 480 will be $250 if not lower.
>>54838253
And me here running 2700k on 4.5ghz for years.
Why even upgrade.
>480 as fast as 1080 in aots
h-how?
>>54839942
Polaris IS garbage when compared to the high end. It's not a high end chipset, though, and thus should no be compared as such.
Vega will be roughly a titanX-1070 but be cheaper or around the same price as the latter. Mark my words.
>>54839976
Polaris 11 and Vega.
This is Polaris 10
>>54840002
>Polaris IS garbage when compared to the high end
Then don't fucking do it, retard.
>>54840005
Polaris 11 is a mobile chip. It's not even in the same league. AMD uses decreasing numbers.
>>54839976
Exactly... meanwhile they keep on going bankrupt.
>>54839648
3dmark is actually benching actual graphics retard
Not theoretical
>>54839551
That anon made no mention of being "competitive." Realize quality is still quality. If you're playing games on the PC might as well get the best or you've defeated the purpose.
>>54839317
This is why poor people stay poor.
>>54840002
>Polaris IS garbage
Please stop saying retarded things
>J-just wait for Polaris
>J-just wait for Vega
fucking hell AMD can't you release something already
>>54839992
Then why the
>480 or 1070
Why did he compare cards with vastly different prices?
>>54840005
>>54840002
>>54839975
>>54839899
These posts gave me ICD-9-CM 140.
>>54839976
there is none yet.
AMD is making an affordable ~230 mm^2 256b GDDR5 card and an extravagant 400+ mm^2 HMB2 card that will squeeze out products in the 1070/1080 bracket when it arrives.
Nvidia is reportedly making a GP102 as well, so it's hard to tell what they're thinking.
>>54837668
>480
Housefires intensify, it was fortold
>>54839757
>The old ones had a loose wire on a donut it's coil turns were away from each other and it wasn't fit tight into a box, it could move around and so on.
The solution: fucking glue
But they won't bother with that.
fun fact: inductors can blow themselves apart from heat and magnetic forces in the coil that repel the individual strands from each other. It's a real issue with superconductors.
>>54840005
And when does that come out?
How are they still in buisiness? Is selling APUs to console manufacturers so lucrative?
>>54840050
Like Nvidia just did a paper launch, with cards costing way more than the MSRP and prices not normalizing for a few months?
I'd rather AMD stock up and avoid another fucking Hawaii/Tahiti buttcoin mess from 2 years ago.
>>54840002
>Mark my words.
Your "words" has been AMDs strategy for the past 10 years...
>Design a chip that bests the competition
>Turn out to be shit
>Sell it for less than the competition
>>54840005
Polaris 11 is small then 10.
>>54839943
It could mean I don't have to upgrade my PSU like I once thought.
>>54839994
>Why even upgrade.
There are starving Jews in Israel that need you to support Intel
>>54839899
>confirmed
you what? you stupid nigger.
>>54840055
> Vega and GP102 will destroy 1070/1080 price support, so what is Nvidia thinking?
Nvidia is either completely fucked on their HBM2/interposer integration, or they are planning on fucking over early 1070/1080 buyer like you wouldn't believe.
These are both extremely plausible possibilities.
>>54840074
Don't pretend you know shit, at all.
>what is RV700
>what is Evergreen
>what is Northern Islands
>>54839976
Crossfire 2 480s, you get a 1080 200 dollars cheaper.
>>54839551
Idk man, I've been gaming on the PC since like 1998.
I'm just fucking sick of screen tearing and shit.
You really need to get your frame rate at or above your refresh rate.
>>54837668
>This is just the 480, not the 480x.
There is no 480X, the uncut Polaris 10 is now the RX 480, and the cut version will be something else.
This is gonna be a $250 mid-range king card, fighting with the 1060 or whatever, not trying to touch the 1070, which is a 35% larger chip.
>>54839940
Even if it's good, they will shit on it.
>>54840146
rx 380 will be good enough desu
>comparing a card at the 960 price point to an 800$+ card
Wew
>>54837839
>>54840137
> SLI/CF cheapo cards
this has virtually never been a great plan, ever.
>>54837906
>>54837909
LITERALLY
