>SOtM In-Line SATA Power Noise Filters
>These connect between your internal drive and Sata cable and I found that when straming music form an internal drive, these filters cleaned up the sound somewhat and opened up the soundstage. A worthwhile improvement.
Is there any digital link audiophiles won't stick a bunch of capacitors on and claim an improvement in the audio?
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>>54833494
What is the actual point of this though? High/low pass filtering ?
>>54833512
LMAO
>>54833519
Wasting money on a problem that doesn't exist for a placebo effect. That's the point of these. For digital, cable quality doesn't matter, only analog, as in your headphones matter, but not the SD card.
>>54833414
>>54833512
Daily reminder that audiophiles are autistic and have FAR more money than sense.
>>54833519
SATA is completely digital so it does absolutely nothing, like gold plated connectors on a HDMI cable.
holy shit
why would an audiophile even use that
are they too stupid to realize that they can just connect a battery powered, grounded, floating (or whatever) dac 10 feet away from their computer through an optical cable?
>Acoustic Revive LAN-1.0PA is a real audio grade LAN cable which has been developed by Acoustic Revive using their own cable technology.
http://www.acoustic-revive.com/english/pcaudio/lan_cable.html
>>54833576
>like gold plated connectors on a HDMI cable.
Gold is more resistant to corrosion and corrosion can cause loss of data connection.
So gold on connectors has a purpose.
>>54833549
>>54833576
But for digital, these could actually adversely affect the signal, no?
If it filters a high voltage below the threshold it, the pulse would be lost right?
Likewise and opposite for the low pulses.
>>54833549
>For digital, cable quality doesn't matter
To a degree. It is far more of an issue for analog links but the fact of the matter is that assuming that all the digital connections are sound and free of corrosion then in normal home environments there is no difference.
>>54833414
>>54833585
the people who buy these things absolutely do not understand how any of this works
>>54833851
It's a digital signal m8, 1's and 0's, 0V to 5V, or 0V to 12V.
If it filtered out 12V, the drive just wouldn't work.
>>54833899
Posted from Windows 10 for Desktop
>>54833851
No, all your 0s and 1s will still be 0s and 1s. Any 1s that were slightly below or above 5v would be smoothed to 5v and any of your 0s that weren't quite 0v would be smoothed to 0v.
>>54833975
Is that a front panel serial port?
>>54834036
My guess'd be gameport.
>>54833930
>>54833940
Thanks senpaitachi.
I'm a structural engineer taking the MITx signal course. Don't know shit about shit yet. Also learning python so I can build little tools for structural analysis.
Is this is bullSchiit too?
http://schiit.com/products/wyrd
>>54834122
That makes more sense. Looking closely it does look like the female side, serials are generally male on the board. And it did look like it was more pins than serial.
>>54833838
>Gold is more resistant to corrosion and corrosion can cause loss of data connection.
I wonder how much data you would lose if your casing that holds pins that actually transfer data (copper) would corrode.
By my calculations it's zero.
>>54833838
Nigga is your rig underwater?
>>54834233
Corrosion increases resistance. Resistance causes voltage to decrease. Decreased voltage can result in your bits not being read correctly.
Corrosion is a legitimate concern. It isn't a concern worth spending $100 on a cable over though.
>>54834272
It's a cable not a fucking car m8.
I wouldn't call it a legitimate concern if it would take more than a users lifetime for a cable to corrode to that level under normal circumstances.
>>54834272
I think you're missing the point.
The copper pins inside the housing of HDMI/USB/whatever is what actually transfers data. The housing is just there to make it sit correctly in the device.
>>54834151
>Isn’t this just a way to get another $99 out of us?
>Not unless you buy it…and keep it.
OP. It's called Schiit. What were you expecting?
>>54834363
You mean the gold isn't on the pins? Unless the outer casement on the connector carries the ground, what's the point in that?
>>54833838
Yeah, loss of connection. It's a digital medium so the signal is either all there or not there at all. Corrosion is hardly a problem in a house. Maybe if you want your cables to last 100 years then gold plating is worth the investment.
>>54834272
> bits not being read correctly
Except HDMI does BCH ECC on the data, so in the extremely rare event that a bit does get flipped, the parity will correct it and the signal will be the exact same on the receiver and the sender anyway.
>>54834182
it has a box with an arrow pointing at the two ports that reads "USB and Game PORTS"
if you're not aware, gameport was an old way to connect joysticks/gamepads before USB took over for those as well
>>54834533
Its because gold is malleable, so if there are small defects in the physical connector, it can still form the physical connection.
>>54835361
Microsoft joystick with joystick port connector. It was common to see these connectors on sound cards.
>>54834151
Pure snakeoil unless there's something actually wrong with your system. You could probably achieve the same result with a pci slotted USB expansion card for 1/4 the price.
>>54833576
You can solder that shit pretty cheap.
like an audio amp chip from the 80s LM386 amp chip for like 70 cents.
Some little research on audio filtering by using one-way diodes and Electrolytic/ceramic capacitor a good designed circuit can make you very crystal clear sound for maybe 12 dollars investment.
>>54833414
ayy wtf, thats just sad
>>54834150
Learn how fucking digital signals work, this is like highschool stuff
>>54833576
>SATA is completely digital so it does absolutely nothing, like gold plated connectors on a HDMI cable.
I hope you realise that your $1 SATA cables and $0.1 motherboard connectors are gold plated.
>SOtM In-Line Fan Power Noise Filter
>The SOtM In-Line Fan Power Noise Filter is a must have computer audiophile product. This device has a unique design incorporating a 12V RF noise filter along with ripple noise filter.
>Price $25,00
http://shop.smallgreencomputer.com/SOtM-In-Line-Fan-Power-Noise-Filter-SOTMFAN.htm
>>54837654
This actually makes sense if you're not using it for retarded audiophile reasons.
My old case had a fan controller that had a fucking annoying whine at certain settings
>>54833414
>opened up the soundstage
What the fuck does that mean?
>>54833838
This is the purpose of gold. It ensures a solid connection that wont deteriorate from corrosion. Ive had shitty hdmi cables that would cause artifacts and lose signal because they were not anything plated. Spraying contact cleaner on the end helped temporarily.
>>54837684
Dude, just stop now.
Wrapping your mind around the mental gymnastics it takes to genuinely insist that there's a noticeable difference between sound quality when you raise your 10mm-of-insulation copper cable off the floor will fuck you up
>>54833576
you mean gold plated connectors on an optical audio cable
>>54837580
Relax kiddo. Some of us took pure sciences instead of computer "science".
>>54837783
>artifacts
>on an uncompressed digital signal
Impossible
>>54837774
Hello Stinkapoor
>>54837997
>pure sciences
They taught us how signals work in physical science. Is that pure enough? Should I have take 4 years of straight biology?
>>54833576
>>54833838
>>54834233
HDMI cable quality is somewhat related to the link between monitor/GPU, you can't overclock a monitor as well with a shitty HDMI cable nor run very high refresh rates without the monitor gliching.
>>54833930
Most newer, even 3.5 drives don't use the 12V line anymore, 2.5 and SSD's don't use it anyways.
>>54838017
that's not true
compressed or uncompressed doesn't matter, any kind of digital signal can be corrupted during transmission
the advantage to digital isn't that it's impervious to degradation (it's not, after all, a digital signal is just an interpretation of an analog one), it's that corruption can be detected and corrected, unlike an analog signal
emphasis on "can be", btw
most digital transmission standards at least include some level of FEC (forward error correction), meaning additional bits are added that can be used to repair corrupted data, but naturally this can only fix so much
the other method is retransmission, where data that cannot be corrected by FEC is discarded and a request to have it sent again is made, this isn't always a possibility, such as (presumably) for HDMI, given that the data source is not stored past the initial transmission
if you get artifacts in the output of a digital system where errors are detectable, usually it's done deliberately. for example, digital TV, it's better to let uncorrected errors through than it is to stop playback entirely pending a better signal
>>54833975
>NEVER OBSOLETE
Because eMachines would replace your computer every two years. What was a great deal actually.
>>54836847
I put some up my ass, no more crackling farts, only pure quality sound.
>>54834151
Dat Schiit is Wyrd, bruh.
>>54837654
You could use it for a fan or a sound card with a power connector, lots used the floppy molex
>>54838017
Yup, that's why we have ECC, you always get your data, but it just take more time.
That's why copying files ain't always exactly the same speed, errors occurre and ECC has to fix them, slowing it down.
>>54833519
Wasting your money. Applying analog filtering to digital signal is ridiculous.
There is such a thing as digital filtering, look up finite impulse response filters if you're interested in learning about that stuff. It's heavily involved in digital signal processing but it's not at use here. That kind of filtering is done with a mircocontroller, not RC filters.
>>54838017
>>54838385
It is possible. Just unlikely, most of the time there would be no signal shown, however there is a fine balance when the degradation is bad enough for ecc not to be able to fix but not bad enough for the stream to completely drop out. And im not even sure the video portion of hdmi has ecc, isnt it just the same protocol as dvi? I may be wrong on that one.
>>54835384
Fucking piece of shit. I had 3 of them and they all broke in the first week
>>54838478
I don't get it
>>54838135
>>54838135
4 years of socialising would be a start.
>Getting angry at someone over the internet asking questions about something you already know.
Literally autismo.
Lmao at ur lyf
>>54833519
It's to milk money from idiots. Sata has strict tolerances, if anything this product interferes with normal operation.
>>54833630
Apparently it's easy to dupe audiophiles.
>>54838135
Physical science does not teach you digital signaling. You learned what electricity was.
>>54838880
Its a meme you dip
>>54838308
>celeron
It was obsolete in the design phase.
>>54838880
"battering ram"
>>54838752
hdmi is backward compatible with single-link dvi (that is, dvi-supported modes are the same as dvi, from what i can tell), some systems also support hdmi signals over a dvi connector
as for ecc, hdmi uses TMDS for video transmission, which is only really a "preventative" measure, and not ECC
hdmi does, however, use ECC for everything else (audio, hdcp, etc)
>>54839348
cleans up the 1s and 0s
>>54839404
b-but all the ones and zeros run along those untouched lines on the left
>>54833519
The basic idea is simply that if you plug in big ass capacitors, they will even out the rectified AC (think: Rectified AC still fluctuates with 50 Hz. A capacity basically "buffers" and evens the signal out).
It's a common problem with analog amplifiers. With most cheap amplifiers you will hear a slight hum at high volumes. That is the residual 50 Hz hum that is not quite evened out. The bigger that capacity in the transformer, the smoother the signal gets. So audiophiles like to look at the size of those and judge. I even heard once that there was a manufacturer that put their capacitors in a huge hollow metal cylinder to give the impression that there are gigantic capacitors in the transformer, even though the actual capacitors were tiny.
The joke here is that they are trying to apply the same principle to digital stuff (HDDs), which makes absolutely no fucking sense.
>>54833414
if your PC psu is outputting power so shit that this actually makes difference, then you have a much bigger problem on your hands
>>54839439
anon, trust me, i'm a shil^R^R^R^R engineer
>>54833975
looks fine to me
>>54839471
b-but even if there's errors over the sata data lines, they will be detected and retransmitted well before the data is decoded and played back
and even if it's unable to, it would result in loss of playback, and never degraded playback
>>54839514
you wouldn't understand
>>54839514
Data? Nah, it cleans the "power", so your spinning up hard drive won't make noise to speakers
>>54839471
underrated post
>>54838329
Kek
>>54839532
Why VLC is better? This must be wrong!
>>54833512
>i[Something]
I fucking hate this shit.
Fresh off the printers
>>54840566
iMeme
>>54840898
>bengi
>saidul
I would not even respond to those people at all, the only experience I have with those people when giving them tech support is that they are late with paying if they pay you at all for helping them, it's just not worth the effort, either they pay up front or they dont need to bother showing up.
>burger king
At least 17,50 per 15 minutes on site costs ( it is a business after all and it's someone that isnt a good friend) + whatever the hell you charge for what needs to be done, reinstalling windows is 50 for example and other costs you can pick at your own leisure from what other major stores charge, but be a bit less since you arent a big name store.
>How much will you charge for office
Buy a key from a school center if you have dreamspark or something similar and sell it to him for 75% full price, he cant refuse since it's more expensive in retail stores and it's a legit disk that wont refuse to start after a software update.
This is how you deal with assholes like this that come to you for every little problem but make a decent amount of money off it on the side, I've been making almost as much from this as from my day job for about 10 years now.
Also make word document or other file that outputs to pdf's for reciepts to make it look official for businesses and stuff, they enjoy having the paperwork in order.
>>54833975
but it has GAME PORTS
>>54841133
My exact thoughts. They think you're a fucking wizard and will pay through the company expense books.
