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>June 29th
RIP in peperoni AMD
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The only reason i can think of them keeping it under wraps until then is they have some kind of huge partner that greased their palms to keep it under wraps until their new product was out.

Apple maybe?
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>>54825735
Polaris xfire would be perfect for the iMac, could be.
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>>54825700
>Thinks Nvidia releasing a card earlier is better
>Doesn't realize that this lets AMD confirm they have better tech
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>AMD: This is all under NDA
>Pajeet whips out DSLR with gigantic flash unit.
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>>54825766
But they'd lose lots of potential customers who buy their cards on day 1?
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>>54825775
NDA=/=no press taking down info/photos
they will have to hold it for the NDA though
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>>54825209
I like how they left the password there too
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>>54825766
I guarantee you that AMD saw final silicon of Pascal within weeks of the wafers being sent out to get packaged. Same with Nvidia getting AMD silicon.
There are no secrets between companies when it comes to finished products. They each know what the other has.
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>>54825778
So they lose the people who don't deserve better value for dollar anyway. If you know the competitor is releasing a new tech soon, and your current tech isn't literally unusable, why not just wait another month to make sure you're making the best choice?
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>>54825805
oh no they'll get to use amd's guest wifi at computex!
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>>54825735
Journalists who got Pascal review samples weren't allowed to talk about it either before the official embargo ended.
This isn't unusual.
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>>54825807
>I guarantee you that AMD saw final silicon of Pascal within weeks of the wafers being sent out to get packaged. Same with Nvidia getting AMD silicon.
>There are no secrets between companies when it comes to finished products. They each know what the other has.

Yeah, I bet it's really easy to smuggle out 300mm wafers from the fab.
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>>54825735
Maybe, but if that gets unveiled at WWDC like you might expect then its June 13-17th and does not fit well with that 29th NDA date.

I do think they might be holding off for a volume launch though I question how much doing this really makes sense when it would mean NVIDIA beating them to the punch by a whole month.
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>>54825209

It's fucking retarded to build a high end PC with the newest released graphics card to play video games when all you need to buy is a fucking PS4 and every game for it is optimized for the hardware.
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>>54825735
According to rumours some OEMs are pissed at AMD because some of their products are packing Polaris and won't be able to be shown at computex.

The best time for AMD to do a reveal would be day 1 of Computex, meaning their partners can show off their hardware. (to be honest the OEMs might do backroom shows, that'll get us a lot of "leaks"), so...
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>>54825834
You're suspiciously poor at reading.
Try again.
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>>54825838
AMD said those rumors were false
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>>54825812
>so they lose people who don't deserve
YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT HAHAHAHAHA FUCK YOU YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW BUSINESS WORKS THEY NEED EVERY FUCKING SALE TO FINALLY TURN OVER A PROFIT YOU FUCKING AUTISTIC SACK OF SHIT WHO CARES IF ANYONE DESERVES AMD OR NVIDIA THEY SHOULD FOCUS ON THE FUCKING SALES
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>>54825837
Erin
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1. AMD was surprised about the very fast release of Nvidia Pascal.

2. The SAMSUNG 14nm is hotter and not mature like the TSMC 16 nm.

3. The Star Wars Battlefront 60fps 'polaris 10' demo was an unclocked Fury Nano.
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>>54825863
?

So you're saying that patient informed consumers aren't a market that is desirable? You'd rather your company market to the impulse buyers and the "new is always better" type?
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>>54825912
>unclocke
*under
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>>54825853
>OEM leaks Pascal info to AMD
>Nvidia finds out and gets fucking pissed
>No more business for them

Honestly, I don't think it's worth it for them.
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>>54825912
Why do you idiots just say shit like this?
Samsung had their 14nm lines up and producing Exynos 7420 chips at the end of 2014. They were in volume production before TSMC started risk production on 16nm FinFET.

The Battlefront demo was Polaris 11, drawing under 50w, and it was compared to a GTX 950.
If you think Fury at 850mhz~ only draws <50w then you're giving AMD was absurdly stupid compliment.
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>>54825912
>Rumors I believe because they make my favorite gpu sports team look good
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>>54825812
we're talking about gaymers here anon
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>>54825959
>>54825962
He is right...

http://www.techgrapple.com/apple-a9-14nm-vs-16nm-performance-test-with-iphone-6s/

>The Samsung Made A9 Chip is hotter than TSMC made; Samsung at 39.3 degree temperature and TSMC at 35 degree. Chip based on 14nm FinFET tend to get heat quicker than 16nm
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>>54825957
They each pay fab workers to sneak samples out to one another. Even Charlie from S|A has enough contacts and cash to pay for insider info, thats how he got so much info about AMD's console APUs a full year before launch.
Corporate espionage is so common place that its expected.
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Where is Polaris?
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>>54826000
No, hes not, and you're just as stupid as he is.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/iphone-6s-a9-samsung-vs-tsmc,30306.html

The only notable difference between the chips came from a single bench, Geekbench. It was quickly found to be an issue with Geekbench itself.

There is no real statistical difference between A9s from either vendor because they're each tuned to the same nominal power consumption and clocks. Neither is running at their max clock for their given binning. Apple as a manufacturer would never have two totally different performing models sold under the exact same SKU.
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>>54825959
>Fury at 850mhz~
Lower.
>>54825962
Nice point anon
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>>54825921
Every consumer should be the market and they shouldn't keep their cards secret for risk of losing customers to nvidia. They've already lost a lot of market share
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>>54825994
I'll be honest here.

I've only ever had a PC for gayming. I can't even code html. I have no idea what Linux even really is other than an OS. But I've always been someone who waits to see what the big picture is and compares it to my needs before making a decision.

Sure, I could have dropped ~2-3k on a maxed PC easily. But I only really play old school RPG (Divinity: Original sin, Baldurs Gate, Pillars of Eternity, etc...) and the occasional MOBA.

It would be like buying an F-450 V12 twin turbo super duty to haul your kids to soccer practice twice a week.
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>>54826052
It's the 1st time samsung make big GPUs like that with their wafer, TSMC is more advanced and where is the Polaris PCB anon? :3
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>>54826080
Of people who feel that they need to upgrade this instant.

Anyone patient hasn't been lost.
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>>54826000
Even had this been true, as >>54826052 points out, it still wouldn't be a good comparison.

The difference there is that was Samsung/GloFo's 14nm LPE or Low Power Early process vs TSMC's 16nm FinFET process. Polaris and later Zen are being made on the LPP or Low Power Plus process that according to the fabs uses 15% less power and gets 15% higher clocks than LPE.
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>>54826047
>Overpaying for a card that will be obsolete in 3 months.
: ^ }
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>>54826059
No, retard.
Polaris 11 in the demo was clocked at 850mhz, and the vcore was set at 0.8375v. Hardware.fr and Ryan from Anandtech both reported on this. They all saw the die that was being used in the GPU.

Words cannot describe just how dumb you are.
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>June 29th

WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LE OVERHYPPPPPPED GAMMMICK SHIT LIKE HBM1 AND FURY X
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>>54826105
That's my point you fucking retard.
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>>54826195
>850mhz, and the vcore was set at 0.8375v.
with a load cap via costum drivers

>They all saw the die
citation
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>>54826135
>Overpaying for a card that will burn down your house.
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>>54826265
>I was wrong about literally everything so far
>better keep talking out of my ass
>m-muh custom drivers!

Jesus you're pathetic.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9886/amd-reveals-polaris-gpu-architecture
In any case, the GPU RTG showed off was a small GPU. And while Raja’s hand is hardly a scientifically accurate basis for size comparisons, if I had to guess I would wager it’s a bit smaller than RTG’s 28nm Cape Verde GPU or NVIDIA’s GK107 GPU, which is to say that it’s likely smaller than 120mm2
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>>54826265
I'd like to see you try and run a nano at that frequency and voltage. It's not possible.

Trolling is a bannable offense
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>>54826208
>>>/v/
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>>54826208
I can't even tell what genger this bean is supposed to be...
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>>54826098
Jesus fucking christ you're retarded. Samsung still isn't making "big GPUs". Global Foundries is licensing tech from Samsung in order to make GPUs for AMD. Read that again since you're obviously too stupid to have understood it the first time.

Global Foundries is making the Polaris chips. GLOBAL FOUNDRIES.

As for the linked article, it clearly shows that Samsung's 14nm LPE FF is comparable or even slightly better than TSMC's 16nm FF.

The tech that GloFo is licensing from Samsung is 14nm LPP FF, which is better than the 14nm LPE that was already comparable to TSMC's 16nm being used in Nvidia's Pascal.

What this means is that TSMC 16nm FF used in the new Nvidia chips is cheap chinkshit. The Samsung 14nm LPP being used by GloFo to make AMD's new chips is slightly better gookshit. Meanwhile, Intel's 14nm being used on their most recent Skylake CPUs is still miles ahead of both of them.
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>>54827623
> Meanwhile, Intel's 14nm being used on their most recent Skylake CPUs is still miles ahead of both of them.

Intel has superior density and area scaling. There is as of yet nothing to indicate they have superior electrostatic characteristics. Intel has had nothing but issues on their 14nm node, and it took an inordinately long period for them to build up enough inventory of high binned silicon to release desktop Skylake.

Broadwell CoreM was a disaster at launch.
Desktop Broadwell was delayed several times, only two SKUs ever launched, and they were pulled off the market quickly. Only extremely limited numbers were ever available.
The first Skylake chips out were only low TDP mobile parts
Desktop Skylake was limited availability for months after launch because intel still wasn't yielding enough high clocking chips to meet demand.

Samsung has been endlessly shitting out 14nm parts with die sizes rivaling CoreM since the end of 2014, and they never had a hiccup. Area scaling and density go out the window when it comes down to per transistor performance and process yield. Intel paid a heavy price for having the smallest BEOL.
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It's over, AMD is finished.

They don't provide these new open source linux drivers for my 7870, so I'm just going to jump on the next Intel GPU with the best performance soon.

Will be more efficient, too.
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>>54825838

Fake news, it conveniently came out right as Pascal was released but AMD said it's not true
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>>54826087
I love when Americucks talk about cars and they always use a shit car as an example, muh corvette muh dodge muh big pickup.
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>>54828318
Americans only buy shit cars though, it's all we know.
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>>54825837
when a ps4 can hit 60fps on everything or let me turn graphics down to hit 1080 60, then we are talking.

once they let me use a mouse keyboard with an fps, then ill fully move to consoles again.
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>>54825812
>>54825778
they lost sub 5% of potential sales, and with how little 1080's and 1070s will be out for a long time, probably sub 1%
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>>54828471
no, its all we have that are cheap.
remember there is a massive fuck off import tax on cars, it use to be FAR cheaper to buy a car from overseas and have it delivered to you then going to a dealership.

then the dealerships and auto industry lobbied/bitched till laws were put in place to make these cars illegal.
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>>54825834
more like what googled did for mozilla in the day, they send them a cake every new release.

i imagine that amd has sent intel a dev version of their zen just as a fuck you, along with nvidia a polaris just so they know how much they will get stomped.

when vega is tapped, they will be the second to get it.
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>>54828318
>>54828471

Wow, those brush strokes are huge.
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>>54825835
if they have cards, the embargo is for benching purposes, so everyone is as thorough as they can be and no one is rushing to be first.
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>>54825863

Spoken like a true gamer.
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>>54827623
TSMC has been sending 10nm units to Nvidia for quite a while now anon.
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>>54825912
LPP fixed that
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>>54825778
Tell that to Sony. Xbox One released early and it was a catastrophic fucking failure
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>>54826047
>founder's edition
kek
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>>54828222

What new linux drivers are you talking about? I haven't been followig AMD news lately.
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>>54828471
Tesla senpai.

Tesla.
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Each time AMD blew hot air before launch it always ended in failure.
I prefer them keeping silent, shows more promise.
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>>54830921
Not really, Llano was fantastic when it launched. They were talking about it nonstop well over a year before launch too.
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>>54830921
There was a lot of hype surrounding the original athlon 64s, a few of my friends and I waited up all night to go out and buy our chips in the morning, I still keep my 3500+ in my desk drawer
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It's the NDA for the tech day and not the NDA for Polaris.
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>>54829818
Intel and Samsung are rumored to have working 7nm silicon. What does any of this have to do with Polaris?
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>>54830950
The Athlon 64s are slower than Bulldozers.
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>>54825735
Consoles at e3
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>>54831053
>AMD is the one to stop consoles from holding back gaming.
They always seem to be the company forcing the others to get off their asses.
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>polaris not competing with 1080
>not even competing with 980
>m-muh power efficiency
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>>54831758
>>>/v/
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>>54831019
The fact that they are going to be trashed by Nvidia, the 1080 is just a 1/3 of the big Pascal chipset.
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>>54831798
It's actually 52% of GP100
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>>54830968
this and regarding polaris itself it's also either/or - the 29th or official launch date.
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>>54831798
>>54831808
700 bucks for half a piece of chink shit.
we're doomed.
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When is the Computex event for AMD? In a few hours?
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>>54831932
http://videocardz.com/60686/watch-amd-computex-polaris-update-live-stream-here

there's a counter
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>>54831932
No point in watching, they're only showing desktop Carrizo(Bristol Ridge) and they're barely teasing Polaris.

The webcast is 10pm est today.
http://www.amd.com/en-us/who-we-are/corporate-information/events/computex
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>>54831943
So when is it?
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>>54825812
>deserve
They lose money you fucking idiot
It's not about which customer 'deserves' what you fucking moron

Jesus crust
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Do we have any idea at all of how fast Polaris 11 is? I've heard a ton about Polaris 10's performance but nothing on the 11.
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>>54832007
5 times slower than a gtx950
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What bugs me most is that we don't have transistor count for either Polaris yet.
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>>54832007
They gave a live demo of Polaris 11 months ago. It was mentioned just a bit higher up in the thread.

AMD showed a PC with a Polaris 11 GPU running Star Wars Battlefront. It was running at 1920x1080, medium settings with the frame rate pinned at 60fps, and total system power consumption was under 90w. The same system with a GTX 950 was drawing 140w for the same frame rate.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9886/amd-reveals-polaris-gpu-architecture
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>>54832054
They'll have superior transistor density since since GF's 14nm gate pitch (I think that's the right measurement) is very slightly shorter than TSMC's 16, but that doesn't necessarily mean the process is overall better.
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>>54832061
So the GPU uses 30 fucking watts? What the fuck?
CPU, mobo, fans, HDD at least would take up 60 watts.
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>>54832071
Foundry characteristics aside, from transistor count you can make a good guess on the performance of the chip.
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>>54832075
An i3-6100+DDR4+SSD system would sip power.
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>>54832093
AMD had a quad core i5 in there IIRC, so the TDP of the CPU isn't under 60.
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>>54832075
The CPU wasn't anywhere near fully loaded, so the system sans GPU was probably about 40w.
The Polaris 11 GPU shown is probably a 50w~ card, the frame rate being capped was likely saving each card a little power too.

>>54832071
Connected poly pitch, SRAM cell size, and a few other things are in Samsung's advantage for area scaling. Dense logic can have up to 15% area advantage vs TSMC's 16nm process.
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>>54832103
TDP is not power consumption.
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>>54832103
TDP != Power consumption.
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>>54832119
It's not, a 60W TDP CPU won't be using 20 watts when all its cores are running at a decent clock.
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>>54826047
>FE
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AMD probably tried to keep system power low as possible, so probably a samsung SSD, LPDDR, mATX/ITX mobo with little third party controllers, low RPM fans, I wouldn't count more than than 10-15 watts at worst for the entire system outside the CPU/GPU, so a 75-80W budget for those two.
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>>54832127
There is no such thing as "running at a decent clock"
Idle power is not affected to a high degree by static clock speed, ALUs executing is what draws power. CPU power consumption depends entire only the workload its handling.

A significant portion of intel's TDP for their mainstream CPUs is for the IGP anyway. An 84w Dickwell CPU doesn't draw 84 by itself under a fully CPU load, it uses that combined CPU+IGP, and allows itself additional headroom for brief periods in its boost states.
Ivy Bridge and Haswell i7s draw 70w~ measured from the 8 pin with all threads fully stressed. Battlefront with a frame rate cap isn't even fucking remotely close to that.

>>54832206
The GTX 950 pulls 100w under heavy load.
The GTX 950 test system was drawing 140w.

This isn't hard to figure out. Polaris 11 is an entry level 50w GPU. Polaris 10 is only mid range.
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>>54832206
Is the monitor wattage included?
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>>54831032
they were a hell of a lot better than the Pentium 4's they competed with though
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>AMD expects us to sit on our 290s+ for another 6 months
1070 it is then lads
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>>54832991
After you sit on your ass for 2 months waiting for stock.
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>>54825837
GET. THE. FUCK. OUT.
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>>54826299
that's exactly what you'd be doing by buying nvidia
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http://wccftech.com/powercolor-liquid-cooler-amd-polaris-amd-radeon-pro-duo/

>Poolaris needs water cooling on low-end parts

AYYMD HOUSEFIRES
AYYMD HOUSEFIRES EVERYWHERE
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>>54833482

fucking samsung cheapin out into a hosuefire

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

only @ AMD
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>>54833482
>first picture
>text looks like powercolon
lel
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that fucking watertank below the GPU

top kakarot AMD fucking finished / bankrupt end of 2016
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>>54833482
There are AIO's for 970's and 380's.
They must be housefires.
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>>54833813
AMDKEK DAMAGE CONTROL
HOUSEFIRE DEFENDING DAMAGE CONTROL
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Certain shills are full tilt a few hours before AMD's computex event.
There should be much better places for swaying gaymur opinion than /g/ though.
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>>54825209
so that means no polaris before jully ? that sucks desu.
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>>54833792

holy fuck im dying of laughter
HAHAHAHA
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>>54833792
HOUSEFIRE HOUSEFIRE HOUSEFIRE HOUSEFIRE HOUSEFIRE HOUSEFIRE HOUSEFIRE HOUSEFIRE
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>>54833482
>The PowerColor LCS lineup includes two new liquid coolers that will be aimed at upcoming and current graphics cards. The first solution is a closed loop, AIO (All-In-One) liquid cooler designed f or single chip graphics cards. It comes with a high-end 3 x 120mm radiator block which will be cool down any graphics chip with ease. The GPU cooler comes with a copper base that is big enough to be cool down both GPU and VRAM on the graphics board allowing better clock speeds during overclocking.

Uhh, so it's a new watercool kit.. What's the issue?
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>>54833955
>>54833853
>>54833792
No guys. It's okay when AMD does it.
See >>54833813
>>54833875


Let's all go back to our
>Nvidia is finished, nvidiots on suicide watch. Housefires. Housefires everywhere. 1080 runs at 77°C lmao housefire card housefire!!!!
Threads
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>>54833792

i like how the tubes reach out of the case
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>>54833984
Nah, that's just your depth perception being terible.
Or the picture, whatever.
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>>54833984


just stop I can any longer HAHAHAHAAHA
#
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>>54833980
>>54834007
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>>54828471
I have a toyota gt86 (FR-S).
Who's buying shit cars?
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>>54832147
>he does't just turn up the fan speed to compensate for the excess heat generated by the OC
What are you: a literal child?
Oh, wait: that was bait.
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AMD polaris event:

Hi guys here is our 480 RX it sucks. thank you for coming.
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I hope they get bankrupt so other companies get finally do REAL improvments.
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>>54834135
Like what? Charging premium prices for old tech? How is AMD holding them back?
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>AMD has literally been reduced to a bunch of curry munchers shitting out poo

Lol JUST
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Lol its so fun making amdcucks mad by telling them their shitty company is dying
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>>54834056
>>>54828471
>I have a toyota gt86 (FR-S).
>Who's buying shit cars?

>Not a Subaru BRZ
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>>54834230

You should join the military. They need ppl like you who still are on the ship when it sinks.
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>>54834307

llloll
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>specula
just fucking wait until it's out morans
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When will AMD release their competitor against 1080? I am so close to buying 1080 right now but issues about overheating in a small case are troublesome since I own mini-itx..
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>>54830133
Sony launched the PS4 you idiot.
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>>54834364
>When will AMD release their competitor against 1080?

next year sometime if they still exist
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>>54834364
The Vega GPUs are coming out later in the year. They were originally slated for 2017 but were moved up, October if I recall.
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>>54834426
Vega GPUs will be 1080 competitors, 4K gaming w/ single GPU?
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>>54834438
Yes, that is their Fury replacement.
Polaris 11 is entry level, Polaris 10 is mid range, and the Vega dies are the high end parts.
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>>54834438

>4k gaming on amd

KEK
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>>54834100
>>he does't just turn up the fan speed
>he didnt even read the pic
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>>54834456
>>>54834438
>>4k gaming on amd
>KEK

290x shit on 780 in 4k
Later it shit on 980 in 4k
Now it goes toe to toe in DX12 at 4k

AMD tends to have better frame rates at 4k. That has been their thing since 2013.
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>>54829721
it also eats resources for both, they probably do not send them full package just
the chip and they would have to analyze it. Gives general idea but who know how much they can read it.
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>>54834456
>>54834682

What's the point of 4k gaming anyway? Sure it looks better but is it worth paying 3 or 4x what a console costs to have the luxury?
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>>54834719
this is an 18+ board
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>>54834737
I know right? You think people would be smart enough with their money to not spend $1500+ for something not important at all.
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>>54834307
>curry munchers
>not curry niggers
Are you sure you shouldn't be posting on reddit, friend?
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Well for better or worse, I'm waiting for Polaris 10 and will then decide my upgrade path. I'll most likely just go with the Polaris 10 since it's bound to hit the best price point in terms of dollarydoos.

At least I'm hoping it does.
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>>54834760
Oh shit kek
>>54834737
pic related
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>>54831676
They're the company we need, but don't deserve.
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>>54833792
>mfw AMD delays the launch until after summer to reduce the number of housefires
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>>54834760
I have a news flash for you kiddo, video games aren't important in the least
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>>54825209
So you're saying it's so bad just like [H] predicted and now they're banning any reviews before release day so they don't lose customers.

>amd
Not even once.
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>>54826052
http://bgr.com/2015/10/08/iphone-6s-a9-processor-samsung-tsmc-batterygate/

>Furthermore, even though the 14nm chip should dissipate less heat than the 16nm alternative, it’s still TSMC’s chip that won that fight as well. More interestingly, and perhaps related to the heat dissipation finding, is the fact that TSMC’s 16nm A9 seems to perform better than Samsung’s A9 chips in battery tests.

>YouTubers Austin Evans and Jonathan Morrison independently confirmed these claims, revealing in videos that the TSMC A9 chip does indeed perform better than Samsung’s version when it comes to benchmark tests and battery life. Evans performed the same tasks on both iPhones 6s versions (4K video recording, exporting video and running benchmarks), and the TSMC model turned out to be the more efficient of the two — the Samsung A9 chip drained 7% more battery life to perform the same duties.

>Morrison took a different approach, running Geekbench 3 battery tests on both devices with the screen set to the same brightness to see how long it takes the iPhone to lose 50% charge. The TSMC model lasted 50 minutes longer than Samsung’s handset, and it ran cooler in the process.

>B-BUT THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE

amd are finished
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>>54835505
Good job supporting exactly what I said.
The only difference was a fault in Geekbench, that the devs acknowledged and eventually patched when it was rooted out in the Anandtech forums.

I wouldn't expect a tech illiterate retard to understand anything of the sort, so don't feel too sorry for yourself. Theres only so much you can do when your IQ is 80.
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>>54835786
>>YouTubers Austin Evans and Jonathan Morrison independently confirmed these claims, revealing in videos that the TSMC A9 chip does indeed perform better than Samsung’s version when it comes to benchmark tests and battery life. Evans performed the same tasks on both iPhones 6s versions (4K video recording, exporting video and running benchmarks), and the TSMC model turned out to be the more efficient of the two — the Samsung A9 chip drained 7% more battery life to perform the same duties.
>geekbench

You're one to talk. Go back to school, kid.
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>>54835874
>YouTubers
Opinion discarded.
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>>54835874
>retarded youtube faggots with results that have no statistical significance

Again, good job supporting exactly what I said. Now try actually reading for once in your 80 IQ life.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/iphone-6s-a9-samsung-vs-tsmc,30306.html

The Samsung equipped phone had over 10% better battery life when tested here, it ran slightly cooler, and often performed slightly better as well. Funny how you ignored all of that, isn't it? The fact of the matter is that these aberrations in performance are normal, and expected. They get averaged out when looking at a large enough sample size, because the chips Apple orders from each vendor are all turned to meet the exact same nominal performance figures.

None of them are top tier binned chips running at fmax with the lowest possible vcore. Tech illiterate retards should stay in /v/ where they belong.
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>>54835981
>taking one source vs multiple different sources
>calling someone tech illiterate

Back to >>>/v/ with you
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>>54835981
please stop. youve been blown the hell out so many times now. go out and get a girlfriend or something instead of dedicating your life to shilling for amd.
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>>54833792
Why does it have so many power connectors?
I thought Polaris was supposed to be power efficient?
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>>54836061
>shitposting after being proven wrong about a known geekbench issue
>shitposting after being proven wrong about sample size bias in benching
>shitposting in defense of the autistic malcolm in the middle reject youtuber

Adorable.
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>>54836072
Its a dual gpu you can see the two cores, looks like that power color 390x2 thing. Its not polaris.
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>>54836072
>>54836098
http://www.techpowerup.com/222988/powercolor-next-gen-lcs-liquid-cooling-solutions-pictured

Radeon Pro Duo.
The faggot who said it was Polaris was just baiting because dickless mods don't ban shitposters here.
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>>54834321
>not a Honda Type-R GT
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>>54831032
>newer chips are faster than older chips
More at 11.
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>>54836098
>>54836117
Of course, that explains it.

Thanks.
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>>54836082
>damage controlling this hard

welp, I guess i've won here. another amdrone btfo.
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>amd dies because they're retarded
>nvidia gets monopoly over the market
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>>54829659
Are you forgetting that this has done wonderful things for the US economy?
>Honda now makes cars in America
>Toyota now makes cars in America
>Big 3 not outsourcing anymore
>Euro cars a niche item
>The inevitable worthless Chinese car will never make it here
>Economic collapse started and ended with Detroit
Yeah, those tariffs can stay right where they are.
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>>54828318
What is a shit car depends on the roads you drive on and the tax structures of the place you are. In Rome you really don't want more than some eurohatch and something like a ford raptor would be a disaster; in the rural upper midwest USA a raptor is great on open unpaved roads and can get through easily when there's a foot or more of snow on the road before a plow has made it through. Meanwhile the eurohatch is useless in bad weather, too cramped for long drives, and underpowered for highway cruising.

There's good reason that you see hardly see 5 liter plus engines for everyday drivers in europe and hardly see sub 2 liter engines in the USA.
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>>54834100
it was not bait but he caught a fucking retard
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>>54836132
>Type-R
M E M E
E M E M
M E M E
E M E M
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IT'S OVER, AMD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

POOLARIS IN THE LOO

KYLE WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/05/27/from_ati_to_amd_back_journey_in_futility
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>>54837594
Why'd you compete against fucking 970 in 2016... just what the fuck AMD..
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>gtx 1080
>€805
yeah I'll wait for amdy
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>>54837631
That's the closets to the price point the RX480 aims, the other card that is close to that price point is the 960, which would be a ridiculous comparison performance wise, though they couldn't flaunt HVEC support in such comparison
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>>54837594
Could be fake but that reference cooler is a nice update to the new one that came with the 300 series. The 300 series one looked kind of cheap with the weird holes in the face plate.
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>>54837594
>hardocp
Aren't those the guys AMD locked out because they couldn't string two words together without sucking NVidia cock?
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Yeah I'm sure businesses run on good will and """"""informed"""""""" consumers, let's just check the share prices to see how well this works, oh shit wait nvidia and intel are thrashing AMD mercilessly, huh guess neets on /g/ who have never worked a day in their life DON'T know how business run. Sure surprised me.
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>>54836172
>I'm a useless nigger who always needs the last word
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>>54837631
Because that's the minimal vr requirements
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>>54839445
>le minimal requirement

Literally console tier of thought. If I wanted to play games at the minimum vr requirement I'd just buy a fucking ps4 for the same price as a whole polaris card.
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>>54839524
You are retarded.
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>>54839612
Are you denying the ps4 is the minimum vr requirement?
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>>54826979
He is a boy. The man boobs are from eating chicken which is high in estrogen hormones. Read up on that, you will be surprised.
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>>54836938
You have huge taxes for anything over what, a 1.4l engine? That's why.
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aren't the latest Nvidia cards just gimped them slightly OC'd 980ti's?
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>>54841530
More or less, it's dieshrunk maxwell.
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>>54839747
I don't have to read up on that. I know it doesn't work like that. Unless they're esterised hormones, they will not be able to pass the stomach and be absorbed in the intestine. Our stomachs are very efficient in denatureing any kind of protein.
More likely, because of a his high bodyfat, lack of exercise, and poor diet, his testosterone levels are very low, and since in males testosterone is aromatised to estrogen in adipose tissue, a lot of what remains is being converted, leading to an unnaturally high estrogen:testosterone ratio, which is what lead to his very female body fat distribution.

>the things /fit/ teaches you
>no homo
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