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If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/DujvzEzU
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
What OS do you use in your Thinkpads?
I wanted to try Linux/Arch, but it looks like my T400 is somehow incompatible with grub and I couldn´t change systems. Got stuck in Arch.
Right now I´m running Windows/Linux Mint, the first one for a couple work related programs that I need and the second one for university stuff and programming.
Why is X220 the recommended model here? I'm interested in getting one.
>>54815284
Muh keyboard
Why is the ThinkPad keyboard so god-tier, /g/? Why were ones like it abandoned in favour of chicshit?
>>54815606
Because they use rubber dome switches, the other laptops use scissors one which makes them less comfortable to type on.
>>54815284
Any X220 owners please respond.
>>54815938
Because it's a nice and portable decently specced little thing. And yeah, the keyboard.
>>54815938
I have an x220
Its a good laptop overall and pretty cheap all things considered. Its probably the best bang for your buck laptop out there. Its recommended a lot because impoverished neets can't afford hp elite books or dell latitudes or the latest thinkpad models so they get the next best thing
>>54815181
I just use OpenBSD. Works great.
>>54815895
The chiclet keyboard and the scissor switches use the same mechanism,
The problem with the new keyboards is not the way it feels, but that abortion of a layout.
>>54815938
I love mine, I have an i7 X220 in near perfect condition, when the IPS panel arrives it'll be a perfect little machine for shitposting, although I do wish it had slightly more sane aspect ratio like 16:10 or 3:2.
Just copped a T450 for $320
How mad is /tpg/?
What is a thinkpad of bikes /g/?
>>54815895
Please, if you don't know what you're talking about, just don't fucking post.
>>54816680
Why would anyone be mad? Nice cop!
>>54815938
Because it's the last one with the classic keyboard
>>54816992
Old used bike for which you buy new tires and a seat
>>54817021
This is my opinion from experience no need to be aggressive
>>54817241
You're a fucking retard, they all use fucking scissor switches
>>54817328
My bad.
After looking up I see what scissors switches are now
Quick somebody zoom and enhance this Craigslist picture.
I can't tell if that's an X220 or what.
>>54817519
that's a x41t :^)
>>54817562
Doesn't look at all like a T at the end to me, and there's certainly a 2 in there somewhere.
It looks most like X[?]20T right?.
>>54817604
that was a joke, use your common sense anon
there was only one x series with that kind of 7 row keyboard and it was the x220
>>54817616
>common sense
Eh. I don't have the right knowledge to emphatically say it's only a 220. Thanks, though.
I need a new laptop for college programming work and browsing since my old one died, any suggestions on which thinkpad model I should get?
>>54817671
Literally read the OP.
>>54814956
I need a new computer because I am about to graduate from Uni and the macbook days need to be put behind me.
I want to get a neo thinkpad. Before someone says T420 or X220 my answer is already no.
I need an opinion on these two models.
I am either going to buy a maxed out T460s, a maxed out P50 or a semi top spec P70.
Which would you guys choose? Is the P series worth the extra dosh for the quadro card or should I just get the T460s. I will play WoW and Overwatch on this machine but besides that it will be strictly for office, graphic design, the basic programming.
>>54817671
A friend´s got a T40. I´ve got a T400. We´re both quite happy with our choice. Another one´s got an Xsomething. He likes his keyboard less than ours but likes the extra portability.
Read OP.
>>54817819
How much are you willing to spend?
>>54817519
It's an X220, the clickpad gives it away.
How to remove the "beeps" enable by default in a fresh install of Linux?
>>54817972
I would say I want to keep it under or at $2000 though because honestly if I am going over that it is a bit much. The mac was $2500 5 years ago and I still don't feel like I got my money out of it. This will be my main machine because I am never in the same place more than 5 days at a time.
>>54817983
Thanks, that's what I thought. I just wanted to make sure there wasn't an obscure (and / or shitty) something-something-20 that I could be walking into.
>>54818007
rmmod pcspkr
>>54818056
>rmmod pcspkr
thank you !
>>54818014
P70 is 17.3" but only 1080p, that's something to keep in mind.
Honestly I don't know much about workstations.
>>54818020
The only thing you'd have to watch out for are -i suffix models, which are underspecced but otherwise identical models for the education market. I don't see the suffix on that one and there's an i5 sticker on it, so you're good.
>>54818203
I am leaning more towards the P50 because it has a 4k option and for less money I can get more or less the same specs but I need to know if the extra cost over the T460s is worth it or not.
Will that dedicated professional grade mobile card be a sound idea?
Does anyone have a t530? Is it a good school computer? How long does the battery last?
>>54815181
OpenBSD on both my X220 and T420. I used to have an X220T and ran Slackware 13.33 and 14.0 on it.
I think that quite a few of the OpenBSD devs use Thinkpads.
>>54818257
if you wanted to play overwatch and WoW, 4k resolution is not your friend
again i don't really know much about workstations, i only have a x220 and x260
>thinking about buying a t420 for a while now for when I go to uni
>someone's selling one for 75 bong dollars
It apparently won't work unless it's plugged in, but that shouldn't be difficult to replace should it?
Bought a T61 (T7500 | 1GB | 120GB HDD | 14.1") for ~$88 and an extra 1GB RAM for $7, was it a good deal? Also does Arch Linux works well in T61?
>>54819022
>It apparently won't work unless it's plugged in
either fucked battery or fucked motherboard
>>54819022
Depends why it won't work without being plugged in.
>>54819030
congrats on overpaying for a 9 year old laptop
>>54819030
>good deal
Eh. You could have gotten more for the same or less.
>Arch
Yeah, runs great even on my T60.
>X220 being recommended
>1366x768
KEK. Has /g/ officially delved into cuckoldism?
>>54819051
The thing is, I live in Brazil and I don't have many options, this was the best deal I could find. Also this will not be my main notebook, it's just to take to classes.
>>54819030
Flash Middleton's BIOS and load it up with a Penryn CPU and an SSD and you'll have a beauty of a machine.
>>54819202
Then why ask if it was a good deal?
Poorfag here, looking into used thinkpads since my old laptop (a shitty g465) is kill
My two choices are t410 or x201
Will be using it for ableton live and some casual vídeo editing in vegas (or premiere if its usable), also for shitposting as expected
What do /g/?
anyone know of a G40/41/50 for sale?
looking for the mobile housefire experience
>>54819783
I never tried a T410 but I the x201 I bought few month ago to replace my (now dead) netbook made me regret I didn't felt for the meme sooner.
>>54816992
Any nice steel 90's MTB that's not rusted
Though better to ask /n/
>non-chiclet Thinkpad usb keyboard starts at £59.99
just got a t61 for 40 burger dollars. perfect condition.
>>54818257
Not really, specially not foot games
Though you should compare the raw specs of the cards, also Intel iGPU's age like shit and Intel kills driver updates after a gen or two
>>54820153
I wonder if you can pop a t420 keyboard in a chiclet one...
I went with a RT3200 (basic rubberdome tkl with trackpoint) instead though.
>>54819168
On a 12" screen, which is acceptable
>>54820195
you can put a x220 keyboard in a x230, but some of the buttons don't work
idk about t420 in a t430
>>54820214
Its the same exact keyboard on all of the ##20s. I was just wondering if the usb keyboard uses a special connector for the keyboard or if its just a case and a normal thinkpad keyboard.
>>54819798
I see a couple of G40s on ebay for $50 each, but they don't have AC adapters. There's also a G41 but it costs $120, which I would say is a bit much to spend on a literal meme machine.
im debating buying it just to install windows xp and put it out of its misery
what cruel bastard installed 8.1 and then 10 on an x41?
>>54820287
dude, win10 alredy struggled on my x60t and thats was a dual core/
>>54820287
>what cruel bastard installed 8.1 and then 10 on an x41?
Someone who thinks that it will make it more desireable to normies.
>>54815284
Yeah why 220 over 201?
>>54820309
ive always wanted an x40/41 tablet
theyre just beautiful devices
but plsno windows 10
if i were to get an xp recovery disk could i install windows xp with it? or would that only work if there were traces of windows xp still on the hdd?
ive got two more thinkpads with windows xp keys, but ive never had to do a reinstall
>>54820337
hey, not judging you there, theres something nice about 4:3 convertible laptops. but, why a X41t? why not a X61t which have more raw speed? yeah sure, its a lenovo one, but still have the IBM logos and all.
anyway, Win 10 on my x60t was just testing how the OS would respond on a limited hardware.
>>54820337
well i bought it
it uses my t42's charger so i dont need to get one of those at least
what i think im going to do, is im going to switch out the hard drive with the one in my R52, which has mint on it and runs pretty well with windowmaker
issue might be touchscreen drivers
if that doesnt work, ill install xp on it, if that doesnt work out (which it might not because im retarded with this kind of stuff) ill install ubuntu on it
i just dont want to see it suffer /g/
it can come here, and chill with the t42, r52 and r30, free of botnet
>x260 won't arrive for 2 weeks
WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH MY LIFE UNTIL THEN
>>54820203
>b-but he's only half black
Is that the excuse you made when you were presented with the fact that you let your girlfriend get fucked and creamed by a nigger?
>>54820397
i wanted an x40 or 41 over an x60 or 61 because i simply didnt want to get that close to the lenovo era
i like the oldschool ibm shit, i dont exactly collect the laptops, but i like having them, i got 15 hours of overtime in last week and i felt like adding something to the pile
>>54820423
You don't have a life anymore. Go check that tracking, it might've moved!
Has anyone here tried putting a WLAN card into the WWAN slot and masking pin 20 to bypass the BIOS whitelist? Specifically, on a T520?
alright, now ive wasted all my overtime money and ive got a new laptop to play with
never actually owned a touchscreen laptop before
>>54820446
The pixel density is higher than a Macbook Air my retarded senpai
>>54820474
I went to youtube to look for a x260 unboxing video to appease myself BUT THERE AREN'T ANY
>9 cell will arrive this week
hell fuken yeah
Is it worth trading a dual core pentium compaq for an i5 t420?
>>54820737
For sure, Sandy Bridge i5s still beat up later i3s, never mind shit-tier Pentiums.
I should sell my extra brand new 9 cell, but i might need it later on...
>>54820792
ive got two and an ultrabay battery for my t42, so i can hotswap batteries in the middle of the day
>tfw total 12 hour battery life
>14 if i count the 3 cell ultrabay battery
>>54820456
>i simply didnt want to get that close to the lenovo era
fun fact: they were made by lenovo
>>54820585
>my c-cock still h-has 2 more veins than Jamal's, honey
Keep live your deluded low resolution thinkcuck lifestyle
>>54821165
yeah, but the x40/41 didnt have the word "lenovo" on it
the x60/61/61s does
Where can I buy thinkpad tablets in the EU?
Seriously, I've been looking for all of these: X200t, X201t, X220t, X230t, X61 literally everywhere.
But I just couldn't find them.
Can anyone help please?
ebay
I'm in the UK and in my experience, most sellers are British or German
The US ones were a bit cheaper even with shipping, but I would get hit with customs
>bought a SP3 back in October for uni
>completely forgot about X-series Thinkpads
fuck
Anyone with a T460? Is it true that dual HDD doesn't work? Like a M2 SSD in the WWAN slot and 2.5" drive in normal slot
>>54822256
https://www.lenovocampus.de/haendlersuche.php#haendler
germany
>>54822256
ebay nigger
>>54820574
>Linux mint USB
That's a joke right?
>>54814956
>tfw sold my i7 x230 and got dv8p with bluetooth keyboard instead
Feels pretty good to be able to charge my main PC anywhere plus ability to charge it from power banks
>>54822495
i dont have any usb sticks laying around
P50 reporting in
>>54818307
How's battery life and what tools you use? That's my main concern with BSD or Linux on laptops
>>54822536
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPPY4m8iY0k
>this is what triggers laptopfags
Soon we'll be able to do such things with smartphones
>>54822550
>ubuntu
>color calibrator sticker is misaglined
>>54822550
noice
puts the rest of us poorfags with refurb used laptops to shame
Does anyone actually install Lenovo thinkpad software?
>>54822543
just install through net
>>54822550
>thinkpad.jpg
I don't think so
>>54822628
it might be
the time is Europe time
What would be a good Thinkpad for gaming, productivity, just plain fucking around on the Internet and YouTube in general?
will a w530 with a i7-3610qm be much faster than my w520 with i7-2720qm?
I found a good deal, seemingly, on craigslist for a w530 with:
i7-3610qm
k2000m
1920x1080 FHD screen
120GB ssd
all for $380. It's a good $70 cheaper than similar builds of the w530 go for on eBay but I don't know if the i7-3610qm is very good. It's hard to justify buying a new laptop unless it's comparable to the i7-3720qm. The SSD and quadro k2 are pretty enticing though.
Help me I have pre-buyer's remorse.
>>54822550
>sexy sexy numpad
nice
numpads make me fap till my dick go num
>tfw your laptop will never be truly free and libre
at least I have an Ivy T420 now
>>54822645
because of gaming, you'll probably want to go with something with a nvidia GPU inside
T450s has a 1gb nvidia something or another inside it and does ok on previous gen AAA titles on medium graphics
that entirely depends on the games, if you are looking at shit like empire earth and the sims, pretty much anything with 32mb of vram is good enough
>>54822703
That's a goddamn fantastic deal. The CPU might not be much better, but the GPU will be, and if you don't have an SSD in your W520 that alone will make a huge difference in general responsiveness and usability.
>>54815181
Ubuntu Mate as main OS and Windows 10 in VirtualBox on my x220
>>54822703
my w520 has simple HD, k1000m, and a cracked bezel, reasons why I want an upgrade. Got it for $100 at a flea market.
>>54822644
How you check it? Exif shows me nothing
>>54822780
You can see the time on the screen.
>>54822780
look at the screen
Just bought a 460p. How bad did I mess up?
>>54822749
Is it hard? Does it work fine?
I wrecked the mobo of my T420, I'm thinking about replacing it with a Nvidia mobo, but Ivy iGPU should be faster than the NVS4200m
>>54822757
I'm just gonna play some TF2 on this thing, maybe some other games, but nothing too new, besides, most of the new shit is garbage tier awful.
I kind of don't really like how hot and old my x220.
Kinda thinking of the Yoga 12 2nd gen.
What do you guys think?
>>54822760
hmm... I can probably sell my w520 too, as long as I replace the bezel. I have an ssd is the thing, just a 64gb with a 200gb hdd in a caddy.
>>54822628
kek
>>54822857
HD 4000 and NVS 4200m are just about even in terms of performance, in my experience. NVS might be just a little better. Where having HD 4000 will shine is in not being a Fermi housefire that devours your battery in minutes and leaves you sterile.
>>54822891
gookishitclone.jpg
>>54822891
>not IMMEDIATELY getting an ubuntu/penguin sticker to cover the godawful windows button
you are still losing as of now
>>54822923
just bought 3 thanks for the idea
>>54823020
np mate. good decision
>>54822857
It werks just fine.
Prerequisites:
- an external SPI flasher (Bus Pirate, RasPi GPIO, Arduino, dedicated SPI flasher, etc)
- a second PC to flash from
- RTFM, read the wiki, get on IRC
- at least half a day to dedicate for the process (plus more time to build the toolchain beforehand, depending on second PC)
- good soldering skills (I opted for this one) or a "SOIC-8 test clip" (eBay)
tl;dr for everything:
Build the toolchain. [takes at least an hour]
Strip the thing down to the motherboard (you have to take it out of the bottom and take off the rollcage), locate the IC "U49" next to the northbridge, right on the edge of the board, which is a 8MB Winbond SPI flash IC.
Solder / put the test clip on according to the pinout and connect it up to the flasher.
Use flashrom to read the ROM off twice (it should recognize it as a Winbond device), diff the files to ensure that the transfer wasn't shit. [using a Bus Pirate with <v6.2 firmware, each read took ~11 minutes]
Find a T430 BIOS image, get the newer vBIOS out of it.
Configure coreboot using nconfig / menuconfig [5-10 minutes], build it [didn't take that long].
Concat the first 5MB of the ROM you read off of the chip with the coreboot image, use ifditool to unlock the "flash lock" in the full image, flash it [2 reads + 1 write + 1 verification read = ~45 mins].
What drivers do I download from lenovo thinkpad site? What's necessary and what's pointless bloatware?
>>54822842
I want that too. What did you pay? what are the specs?
I'm thinking of i7 8gb ram amd graphix 2gb
>tfw my x220 would be here by now if it weren't memorial day
Life is suffering
I need a 14"-15.6" w/i5/i7, goid battery life, 1080p (at least),8gb, 250+gbSSD, matte screen..
What woukd you recommend? Even if not a thinkpad..
>>54823057
Here are the info I gathered while flashing:
https://www.coreboot.org/Board:lenovo/t420
https://www.coreboot.org/Build_HOWTO
Here is a build script which I found extremely helpful:
https://bitbucket.org/iruatpku/coreboot-builds/src/a78936a64e365b47aabde013c77849af56f841fd/t420/build.sh?fileviewer=file-view-default
and finally, some closing thoughts:
The hardware clock won't be set, and it will cause a LOT weird of problems. What you have to do after flashing is manually set the time (date -s) to not have the clock set to 2136 March, get time from NTP (ntpdate) and force a hardware clock sync (hwclock --systohc --localtime).
Another thing to note is the amount of VRAM available. It is set by coreboot, so you will have to set it for yourself if you ever want more than 32MB of VRAM alloc'd.
Use nvramtool (the one that is in the git repo, not some stuff that you pull off a package manager!) to set gfx_uma_size. The maximum amount you can set at the moment is 224M, I am still trying to find out why it is capped at this amount.
>order X201t off of ebay
>find out I had an email where I could get 10x nectar points
>email seller asking them to cancel the order and I'll buy another one so I can get the points
>they say that they will
>but the people in accounts aren't in until an hour after the 10x nectar points run out
>buy the 2nd laptop anyway
hopefully the message gets through and I don't end up with two x201t's
>>54823102
The only thing that's somewhat useful is the Power Manager to set battery thresholds, Airbag thing might be useful too
Driver wise only the touchpad drivers are worth it, studio drivers can be useful though
Everything else is somewhat useless, get video drivers from Intel/Nvidia
>>54823189
t530w530 depending on your performance needs. T530 quad version + SSD + slice battery would probably be nice as hell if you are willing to wait to order all of them.
>>54823291
Audio drivers might be useful*
>>54820543
why bother tapping the 20 pin?
Just install the modded bios
>>54823114
Nvidia w/ 32g. I get it next week. I do a lot of local developmentt and I like to game. So I figure I can work/compile when I need it, and game on my spare time. Also got the 3 year warranty because I expect it to at least last that long.
Just got my dankpad, going for a clean OS install. Windows 7 or 10?
>>54823511
nice. how much memory does the nvidia have? and how much for it? what distro are you going to use?
I have Win7 on my T420, should i upgrade it to Win10?
How well it works?
>>54823564
Vista
It honestly if you're going Windows you might as well go for 10, it's a bit faster if anything.
I do urge you to try a Linux distro though
>>54822873
Lads?
>>54823585
It has the nvidia 940mx w/ 2g. I paid about 2k. It's my first non-work laptop ever so I figured why not. I'm thinking Ubuntu/win7 dual boot. I'm a UNIX system admin full-time so I really don't want to think about UNIX administration after work.
>>54823585
Why are you thinking about the 460p? Why not a carbon x1 or xps13?
>>54823811
Yeah I was torn between the AMD 5330 and 940mx but the price difference of about 530€ is ridiculous. the 460p is 1399€ and the 460 with the AMD 869€. yes, the 460 don't have an HDMI port and no led-backlights for the keyboard but it 530€ cheaper.
I'm thinking mint mate and win7.
>>54823835
they unfortunately both start around 1200€ with similar specs compared to the 460/460p ..
like I mentioned here >>54823940 I probably will go for the 460, because it's much cheaper.
How much would you pay for a x200s?
>>54823342
>>54823189
Ima need more than one dude's advice
>>54819030
>was it a good deal?
Unless you got the 1680x1050 screen, no, it was not a good deal.
>>54824814
Depends of the condition. Did the x200s ever come with a 1440x900 panel?
whata does everyone think of Idea pad? Shit?
Guys, can you recomend any decent T420-like NEW laptops, i went to couple stores and all of them ere shit compared to thinkpad series and older alumnium die-cast HP laptops (like nc6000).
Have they stopped producing good quality bussines/technician grade notebooks or what?
>>54825802
They stopped before the T420, only Fujitsu and Panasonic produce similar laptops but most are Japan-only models
>1366 768
how do you faggots live with yourselves????
How does x220 cope with windows 10? Got one that came with windows 7 installed, with a bunch of lenovo laptop apps.
Are any of the apps worth keeping/reinstalling or would a clean windows 10 install be fine?
>>54825841
That's pretty bad, i miss old fujitsus....
New ones seem too flimsy for me..
All T420 i checkd today had big issues with hinges.. 5yo models.
Just added the missing two things to the new x220t I scavenge from the old broken one, the webcam and the fingerprint reader , it was terribly easy
>>54814956
What do you think about T430?
Is it that much better than 420?
>>54827238
CPU wise there's almost no difference, GPU wise there's don't difference, keyboard wise the newer layout is trash
>>54825653
Shit.
>>54823756
10 is better than 7, but Linux is recommended. I love Fedora 23 on mine.
>>54818203
4K screen is optional.
>>54819030
Eh, yeah.
Loved the T61, though I am too picky and would want a 4:3 model.
>>54819798
>>54820252
They are pretty damn risky to get. So far, I can't boot from my DVD drive on the G40.
Hell... I can't even find a G50.
Until I could get an OS or something on that system, then I'll upgrade it to an SXGA+ IPS display (no UXGA IPS because no cable).
Hopefully by that time I would have a Summary and maintenance video.
Yes I haven't been posting vids. ):
Dunno why I am getting suscribers still
I think I paid $40 for my G40 awhile, at my work there was a 4 pin/dot charger and used that. Damn thing booted thank god.
>>54820337
XP is such a bitch, dunno if a regular pro/home XP can be used on a tablet variant, XP had a tablet version of their OS, though maybe it just doesn't have keyboard support.
>>54820574
>yfw its not going to work because you're going to need the i686 versions of the OS and you end up with the i386 w/ no ForcePAE.
Just installed fedora on the X31... though I need to learn the damn thing on how to install software on it.
'sudo apt-get install bullshit' doesnt work, yes I'm retarded
>>54821803
On the bottom there may be a 'Made by Lenovo for IBM' or something. I have that on my T43p.
>>54822550
Very nice anon!
Anyone buy off of this guy before?
http://www.ebay.com/usr/skeez3535
>>54822703
I paid $250 and resold it for $500 after upgrading RAM.
Fucking good deal, K2000m + HD 4000 graphics is god tier. The fucking laptop lasted 5 hours it seemed despite being a quadcore.
>>54822842
Dunno...
Sold my $900 X1C3 for $670 (before ebay fees) after 3 months when I needed money.
>>54824814
$180 for excellent and WXGA+ panel
Maybe more if i 'needed' one
My t520 is expected to arrive tomorrow. I didn't realize until after I bought it, but apparently the seller wasn't able to "test it" since there wasn't an operating installed when they got it. I'm a little worried about that.
>>54828190
i tried to do shit on fedora on 2016. and says "yum is deprecated use dnf"
>eatshit.jpg
>>54828263
I've seen that profile picture before, I think a few different sellers have that.
Oh its ATR, I think I bought a laptop from them or parts. Good, as expected.
Honestly the people who are leaving bad reviews sound like fucking dumbasses who don't read descriptions.
In the past year 3000 positive sales, 40 not positive, remember people are more likely to leave bad feedback than good, so probably has more sales desu.
>>54828314
I gave up on searching for a good OS after seeing fedora just work for that system.
Maybe later I might get something.
How's everyone's holiday? Finally got this day off after years of working on it.
Getting either an X230 or T430. I'll be using it at work and uni.
Is there a difference in build quality between two? Someone told me the X series aren't as sturdy and are not made of the same materials as the T series laptops.
>>54828489
i live on the dutch caribbean and we havent see a war in forever so no memorial day here or anything like that so yeah.
i tested Fedora, Suse, Debian and finally decide to went back to Arch. dunno, but all other distros felt bloated
tho this time i just lazy it out and used an installation script so it was 12 min installation
>>54828568
My apologies for not thinking of the rest of the world.
My alcohol consumption is a poor excuse.
I tried installing arch but then no desktop environment/GUI.
>>54828669
nah its cool sis.
anyway. arch by default doesnt enforce a desktop environment because that should be a user's decision. but when using an installation script it prompts you to choice one.
>>54828707
*choose one
damn im almost asleep here
>>54828707
Yeah, I'm just not ready for Arch yet. :x
>>54828761
>Penryn laptop with the centrino sticker still on the bitch
Mmm that's nice.
How to clean T420 keyboard? I spilled some Coke on it and now several keys are sticky. Just let it sit in warm water with soap?
>>54828828
Replace it for cheap. coke is nasty.
>>54828828
warm water and make sure its dry, use a blow dryer if you have one.
Usually I would sink it in warm water with some soap, after five minutes of soaking, I would type on all the keys while being submerged.
It becomes hell if there's cat hairs on the damn thing.
Is an x201 all that much lower spec'd than an x220? Any other cons of getting a x201 over a x220?
This might seem like a weird question.
Does anyone know if it is possible to put an x230 keyboard on an x220? I know I could put the x220 keyboard in my x230 but I would still need a keyboard for the x220.
>>54828761
Or you could install arch using Architect.
It's an installer and if things haven't changed, there's a "choose your WM / DE" step.
>>54828924
Here ya go nigga
forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=104889
>>54829017
Nah, I am looking for the opposite.
>>54829042
Oh shit sorry, misread.
>>54828868
why do you guys complain about cat hair? i have 2 tabbies and i never find hair when either cleaning the thinkpads or my desktop.
>>54828797
My T400 still has all of the stickers on it except the Energy Star sticker
>>54829086
You should be able to correct this problem with eBay.
>>54822703
>>54822760
>>54828269
http://springfield.craigslist.org/sys/5606407109.html
here's a funny listing for your validation, guys. thanks
will be buying tomorrow.
>>54815181
OSX
>>54815284
x201 has first gen x220 has sandy bridge do the math.
>>54828489
>fedora
have fun with a system update breaking your OS
>>54816446
housefire/10
>>54816680
>getting a newer model thinkpad.
>>54829441
>32nm
>Hausfire
Do you even Prescott?
>>54816992
Who the fuck cares? People on /g/ dont go outside.
>>54829501
the no-neet ones do.
anyway, i noticed there are two magnets on the upper corners of the x220 screen bezel, what are these for?
>>54817671
x2MackBook
>>54817819
Do not buy a T460 or P50 or a P70 the reason why people recommend T420's and X220's because they are they best thinkpad's, dont know why you would want anything else, and your just programing why spend so much on a maxed out T460 when you can get a t420 that will suit your needs just fine for around $150.
>>54829526
These magnets
Does anyone here own a T460p? If so, can we get some pictures and thoughts? There are hardly any user-taken photos or reviews out there.
Any opinions on the X1 yogas? Are they as sturdy as the other thinkpads? Does the carbon fibre make up for its thin body?
>>54816992
Based on my time in /n/ it would be a 90s MTB.
They even have their own version of chinkshit except it is chink carbon instead.
I am setting a thinkpad up for a not-so-savvy user. It is windows 10 on an x220. Are there any thinkpad specific apps I should throw on it to make it easier for them to use?
>>54818014
>>54817819
Why? Unless you do games or rendering like blender/maya/etc or CAD then you will never use the power it has to offer. Even when I have had a shitload of money in the bank I have never wanted to spend a lot on something I'd never use.
Do what this anon says
>>54829623
Still personally rocking a T60, use it at home for casual internet and video use, works great for a network admin laptop. Got it for $40 in 2012 and the SSD I have it in now was much more than that on its own.
>>54829623
You need quite a bit of power for Matlab and VMs. ( the matlab modules require quite a bit)
>>54829715
p40 yoga is sturdy
good keyboard
best touchpad ever (coming from t420 and x230)
can run most software and popular games
everything is supported by linux (getting the touch to work is a bitch tho)
i got myself a nice t420 with no OS. So installed w7 on it. my problem is that I just cannot update windows. It just gets stuck on searching. I'm so frustrated right now. anyone else had the same problem?
Any reason people seem to prefer OpenBSD over FreeBSD on thinkpads?
>>54829862
It looks very similar to the thinkpad Yoga 460 (14inch).
P40 yoga isn't available in AU yet. Maybe I should just pop over to lenovo when I go for exchange in China.
>>54829896
Tons of times. You need to kill the windows update service, and clear out the update cache. It's a folder inside the Windows directory, google it. Once it's empty, restart the service and try again. If it's really fucking up, try running the exe and msi files it downloads to that folder or else you'll be doing this in circles.
You should also install any service packs on their own, since you can control their download so it won't get corrupted like this, this will save you at least an hour per service pack. Also install .net separately if you need it, takes about 15x longer through windows update.
>>54829936
supposedly various key devs of OpenBSD use thinkpads so thats why.
>>54829955
yoga 460 is twice as expensive and offers less features, have no nvidia card, and the drivers are very glitchy (more noticeable in winblows 10)
>>54830004
ignore the thing about the price (it was just in my case since i got more of a discount when i bought mine, just checked lenovo's site)
>>54829957
thanks guy, ill give it a shot.
>>54830004
>>54830025
Its a pretty good price and specs in Australia
>>54830043
Well, ask a friend who works in a company to give you a perks code and you can get the p40 for this much, with all this added.
I bought the new yoga, can confirm that it gets the attention of bitches in starbucks.
>>54817819
P50
P70 is too big
Secondhand Thinkpads are cheap because they have been popular business laptops.
Why does the same/similar thing not happen with macbooks? Apple shit is popular with average people and with design businesses.
>>54830166
Because design businesses are far fewer than any other business, which are the ones why buy and sell Thinkpads in bulk
Also, even among average people Macbooks are not the majority
>>54830183
>Also, even among average people Macbooks are not the majority
I wish this were the case with people around me. I feel like the only person with a non-apple personal laptop. Everyone else with a laptop gets apple shit unless it is a work laptop.
>>54830183
Second, designers are deluded faggots with an inflated sense of self worth, and secondarily an inflated sense of macbooks' worth
But, since they're the ones selling and buying them, they're the ones who decide their market value
Hi /tpg/ my disposable cheap acer literally fell apart today. I used mostly to shitpost and program.
I always wanted something less creaky.
Is this a good start?
http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Thinkpad-Carbon-Ultrabook-Professional/dp/B00AGPWGF6/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1464668488&sr=1-1&keywords=thinkpad&refinements=p_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A2289792011%2Cp_n_size_browse-bin%3A3545275011%7C2423840011%7C13580784011
>>54830210
on a side note I had it for 6 years.
>>54830210
depends
what do you want in a laptop
>>54830085
Damn thanks should be ordering within the next few weeks
>>54830210
No. X220 or T420. T420s if being an ultrabook is important. Plus with the T420s you can do that 1080p IPS upgrade
>>54830210
>less creaky.
jesus i know that feel.
i had a travelmate years ago. jesus joshep and mary, i do still recall the sound of the cheap plastic
>>54829213
Nah, I took off the energy star sticker because I don't like stickers on the lid
>>54830240
Note taken anon. X220 will be since I carry it around a lot. My budget is around $600.
>>54830245
I literally had to glue it together with superglue and it somehow worked one more year.
Should I buy a x220t for school?
So I have a Thinkpad T510, and it does everything I need it too. My only problem is I would like to get rid of the damn Optical Bay, it's loose and just slides out at random. I want to get a disk caddy for it and add another hard drive to my machine. I have two concerns however:
1) I have it dualbooted with Windows 10 and Ubuntu, so I don't know if it would be easier to set up one OS on each drive or whatnot.
2) The battery isn't the greatest in the world, so I don't know if the use of a secondary drive would make the battery shit the bed or not.
Any advice would be awesome.
>>54830590
>>54830650
Yes
>>54830690
taking notes is a bit bitchy for me, tho i really suck at penmanship so probably its just me.
you are better off replacing the pencil nib with another with more friction or you will feel like writing over a glass slab.
>>54829064
I like cats, but other people's cats?
no thanks.
I havent had a problem with typing with mine but some keyboards are just magnets for others and are slightly tough.
>>54829427
I will try
>>54829441
Hardly
>>54830153
>P70 too big
manlet, non dragon dildo wanker detected
>>54830774
hey my tabbies are lovely.
again i replaced my nibs with the one from a ages old cintiq and feels wonders
>>54830811
Nothing against yours, or anyones but when you can visually see hairs on the keyboard, thats a different story.
Then again I had street cats and persians.
>>54830650
I feel like 16:9 is way too fucking tall for touchscreens/writing shit
Return to 16:10 masterrace when?
Better yet, 3:2 when?
Got a fresh T420 with a fresh Windows install
What are all the Lenovo/ThinkPad utilities I should get to make hotkeys and shit work? Or battery management? I'm only managing about 3-4 hours right now, will getting the battery utility help?
Is there a big pack with all of it or do I need to get it all separately?
this isnt technically thinkpad related but im doing this on a thinkpad to fuck it, im on debian btw, how do you guys customize your desktops to look to dank/cozy, i have no idea what to do, ive been a win xp/7 fag my whole life
I want to put xubuntu on my x61s. I looked at the lenovo site to check the drivers but there are none for linux.
Will everything work out of the box when I install it, and if not, where do I get drivers?
>>54832116
Yes, core 2 anything is so old, everything on the chipset is supported by linux and windows.
>>54832123
Great, thanks.
>>54830385
Don't buy into the x220/t420 meme, for $600 you can get nicer laptops
>>54832145
For $600 he could get 3 thinkpads.
how to check shipping status of lenovo recall battery ?
>>54832405
They email you a tracking number.
If a x220 is missing the leds i can fix it right?
what cheapest laptop i could buy to play league of legends on lowest settings?
>>54815181
I use Windows 7 on my W510 and Slackware on my X201.
Any modern laptops with good aspect ratios?
