what went wrong /g/?
>>54814068
I don't know I haven't touched one yet. come back when we get hands on experience.
>>54814068
Everything, it was doomed from the start
>>54814068
Nothing.
AR is the future. VR was a meme in 1990 and is still a meme today.
>>54814068
A $3000 price tag for a dev product with no content
>>54814068
Nothing, it's the next step on the path to the future. This isn't the destination, merely the hitchhiker by the side of the road.
>Google sees that AR could be the future
>Makes google glass
>Forgoes it in the favour of the gimmick of the year VR
>Arriving to the table horrendously late
Never before have I seen a company drop the ball so hard.
>>54814442
VR is a transitional step before AR. AR requires interleaving digital stuff with the "real" world, which requires a lot more advanced computer vision.
>>54814068
well
at first that guy wanted to fry the brains of everyone in the game if they tried to leave
that's why they switched to that new model without the risk of brain frying
of course only after they beat the game and he let all of the remaining survivors go home to their families
real world objects can't obscure virtual objects and won't be able to for the foreseeable future. imagine for example you move your hand in front of a virtual object that's a few feet in front of you, the object will simultaneously obscure your hand and appear to be a few feet behind it stereoscopically.
Nothing did.
It's not for you, poorfag.
Get a job.
>>54814715
You're stupid. The Hololens has two depth sensors for exactly this purpose.
It maps your whole room in 3D. The objects are in that spa
>>54814715
That's not how AR works retard.
>>54814715
If it doesn't know where your hand is, how did it detect where to place the object in the first place?
>>54814730
I wanna be in a spa
>>54814695
the first arc is the real, the second and season 2 are a fucking meme
>>54814068
It's a gimmick for wannabe artists, totally useless for technical people, not appealing to gaymers.
What went wrong is that it has no real use besides being cool-ish.
Nobody wants to look at the sky to see weather forecasts, lol.
Also: it will take years for it to work properly and people went apeshit for >muh privacy when Google Glass dropped.
>>54814730
the depth sensors won't be able to do complex things like determine what the silhouettes of every real world object looks like from your eye's point of view and then cut out sections of the virtual objects whenever a real world object moves in front of it in real time.
>>54814731
how does it work?
>>54814742
it doesn't need to know where your hand is to place an object in 3d space relative to the hmd.
>>54814761
Wanna go together anon?
Also: [spoiler]r u a qt grill?[/spoiler]
>>54814068
Really dissapointed in FoV 2bh fampai
>>54814715
>real world objects can't obscure virtual objects
You would have to have no working knowledge of optical recognition or even 3d in general to make a statement this retarded
>>54814950
>gimmick
>What went wrong is that it has no real use besides being cool-ish.
AR is more practical and has hell of a lot more uses than VR. The problem is that Windows is shit at marketing and created a half-assed product because they always play this stupid cuck game where they dip their toes into fashionable markets but never go all in, and Google Glass was just a tiny screen hovering in the top right that couldn't even do half the shit your phone could do and was marketed as a glorified mini-DSLR.
Magic Leap will most likely fuck up too because they are focusing on the gaming appeal. AR isn't meant for gaming, it is meant for productivity and social interaction. The ultimate goal is to be able to overlay whatever you want on top of physical reality, i.e. no need to buy a physical monitor, you don't need to care about your furniture's look since you'll be able to change the color and texture once you thrown on some fancy AR glasses, color grade the entire world and project Saturn into the sky so the world looks like if you had lived on Titan. Don't like the way your girlfriend looks? Face map your favorite pornstar's face onto hers. Fuck, we'll have prostitutes that actively try to have the most bland face and body as possible so you can map whoever's face and body you want onto them.
Already that is a lot more achievable than the deluded hopes of somehow pulling the Matrix out of the ass of HMDs like Oculus.
>Also: it will take years for it to work properly
Is that a joke? The tech is already there, go try a demo of the Hololens. It has a shit FOV and shitty applications but the hardware and algorithms for mapping the world are there and the framerate is buttery smooth, the jitter you see on Youtube and elsewhere is due to the latency of the capturing software.
>>54814950
>gimmick for wannabe artists
yeah all those artists are all over hololens.
>>54815925
>The problem is that Windows is shit at marketing and created a half-assed product because they always play this stupid cuck game where they dip their toes into fashionable markets but never go all in
Nokia is all the proof you need of this.
WP7 was the most half assed OS I've ever seen, and I've used tons of Linux distros
>What
Anon, don't make lauhg, MS is really desperate for some future relevance points.
I don´t even know where to start.
>>54815925
real world object occlusion in the hololens is limited to an extremely simplified version of your surrounds and isn't dynamic, so it won't take into account things moving in between you and a virtual object, only you repositioning yourself so that a static object that it already mapped is between you and the virtual object. and even for the most simple of static objects it still has to deal with the clipping not lining up because of lag.
>>54814068
The FoV is rather limiting, but this is a dev only model. If they released this to the public in this state it would have been a failure.
Let's see where it heads in another 2 years or so. This is just barely past the prototyping stage.
>>54815925
>productivity and social interaction
>literally only lists ricing bullshit
Ayyy famalmao
>I-i swear guys, this will not be failure like VR. VR is enemy
there are some really good ideas i want to implement in this device. fuck me for being poor as fuck, this shit will be the one to revolutionize some fields of work.
there are already one or two capabilities that only require a good developer and this thing can take off and never go down.
>>54816554
>literally only lists ricing bullshit
And this invalidates my point how? Normies love to rice their shit because it makes their lives more convenient, I know this may be hard for someone who prides themselves on using command line all the time to understand, but people like convenience. If you give them the opportunity rice their physical lives they will wholeheartedly take that opportunity. It just hasn't been given to them yet.
The concept of VR isn't a failure. The failure is that desktop and mobile Display manufacturers realized they could sell the same screens in a plastic box connected to a strap with the letters 'V' and 'R' tagged onto it and make billions. The day will come when there is some actual VR that isn't just a screen gimmick and allows you to feel as though you're in a virtual world as real as this one, but that day just isn't today
>real world object occlusion in the hololens is limited to an extremely simplified versi...
I don't give a fuck what is in the Hololens dude. The Hololens has tech that is nearly 3 years old while based on research that is 8 years old and whatever the Kinect team managed to scavenge from their failed product. Like I said, Microsoft is only concerned with dipping their toes in the big-boy end of the pool, and HL is completely based on outdated IR tricks. Real-time object occlusion on virtual objects using a single moving camera can be done today using 3d depth estimation and scene reconstruction with a variety of machine learning techniques, and if MS really wanted to, they could do a good job of faking it with what they have. Just because MS can't do it doesn't mean it can't be done.
>>54814970
It's a glorified heads up display
>>54814068
It's too early for such tech
>>54816715
Oh boy, you seemed just like a guy with an opinion before, but now that you started talking about machine learning you're definitely a guy with an opinion and no idea what he's saying.
>>54818839
Holy kek, was that all it took to trigger you? I didn't have to link any articles or anything, or explain the tech, just the mere phrase "machine learning" was all it took? Lel, that's gotta be a new record for me, thanks cuck.
>>54815925
>Magic Leap is focusing on gaming
Source on that? Because what I've heard says they're going for a general-purpose device.
>>54818998
It was one of those conferences where they're sitting on the stage answering questions
>>54818909
>implying I was triggered
That was just bantz m80, I'm not even the guy you were talking to.
Also:
>new record
>arguing with consumer tech hobbyists on an eastern Russian decoupage blog
Kekaroony 2bh
>>54820722
>he doesn't keep records of his bantz
stay cucked
>>54821106
>cucked
Now you're just talking out yo ass, famboi.
AR is gimmicky shit. VR is the future. No reason to even leave your home when robots are doing everything and you can remotely monitor them using VR.
>>54823410
>robots doing everything
>in your lifetime
Pick one and only one.
>>54816715
>I don't give a fuck what is in the Hololens dude.
this thread is about the hololens.
>>54814544
>interleaving
interWEAVING
