It's things like this that make me angry
>>54804827
Autism.
>>54804827
Fuck why did you tell me, now I am bothered by it too!
>>54804827
If Steve Jobs would have never allowed this.
Upgrade to Vista or 7
>>54804947
I already am using W7, but I have 8.1 in a VM
I think this is the latest preview build.
>>54804987
viewing this gave me autism
>>54804987
That's 10, and is not any better than 8.
Why?
>>54805038
Window coltrols separated by program close button, makes sense.
>>54804827
>doesn't add a dot at the end of his sentence
Things like this make me angry.
>>54805005
What were you doing on this board of you didn't already have autism?
>>54804827
>1 pixel
>that's not even noticeable in a real life setting
Spaces before question marks are worse.
:^)
>>54805105
>having them on the left side of the window
i will never understand this
>>54805088
If you are blind
>>54805127
It's for arabs
>>54805127
You get used to it very quickly, if you ever even have a need to click them at all.
>>54805127
That's because you're used to Windows.
>>54805144
t. A raging autist
In no real world situation are you going to notice that the x is a single pixel off from being equal height to the rest of the icons, unless you have a really shifty resolution or you sit 2 inches from your screen.
>>54805105
>red closes the window and doesn't exit the program
>green has more screen space than a maximized window, but not as much as fullscreen
>window buttons are on the left
>window buttons are not MinMaxX or XMaxMin, but rather XMinMax
>>54804827
This looks perfectly normal tho
>>54804987
>>54805033
Why a minus sign instead of the "minimize window" icon. WTF very annoying
>>54805197
If you are blind
>>54805215
It wasn't minimal enough :^)
>>54805127
Most of the content of webpages are on the left, especially on huge resolution.
>>54805105
How do you close a program on a Mac?
How do you change open windows in the same program on a Mac?
How do you switch from one program to another while the window is maximized, causing the taskbar to disappear?
How do you restore a minimized window when you have the program already open?
Can you have two windows side by side that are not the same program on a Mac?
Why is there a second maximize button also on the right corner in some windows?
>>54805280
>How do you close a program on a Mac?
Long press on program icon and select exit
>How do you change open windows in the same program on a Mac?
With that expose thing
>How do you switch from one program to another while the window is maximized, causing the taskbar to disappear?
Hovering over the bottom of the screen makes the dock appear
>How do you restore a minimized window when you have the program already open?
Click on the minimized window in the left part of the dock.
>Can you have two windows side by side that are not the same program on a Mac?
No idea if it can be done automaticaly
>Why is there a second maximize button also on the right corner in some windows?
There isn't anymore, they removed the old maximize
>>54805280
RTFM
>>54805060
I appreciate you.
Autism
>>54805127
Most of the stuff you interact with is left aligned so your cursor spends more time in the left half of the screen. Having the window controls on the left side makes more sense, but doesn't make much of a difference.
>>54805215
I think it's supposed to represent the taskbar at the bottom and not a minus button.
>>54805410
Parjeet
I knew Vivaldi had a flaw...
>>54805507
It's supposed to represent the program window button in the taskbar.
>>54805071
>calling a period a dot.
>>54805613
>period
.
>>54805613
>Calling a full stop a period.
>>54805690
check your fucking privilege misogynist scum
OS X doesn't have this problem
>>54805780
>Safari
>>54805780
No, but everything else is awful about it.
>>54805851
>Refusing to use the world's most aesthetic browser.
>>54805881
You're confused. I'm still talking about OS X.
>>54805038
If you're retarded and miss the middle button you don't immediately close the window.
>>54805780
>OS X doesn't have this problem
>close button on OS X doesn't kill the window
>still put a close button there anyway
>osx werks fine guys!!
>>54805914
lol that aliasing, hahahaha
>>54805914
>can't screenshot properly
>>54805780
>>54805914
This thread made we weirdly aware how far ahead of Windows OS X is aesthetically. I never looked closely, but now I see that it's indeed true.
>>54805950
>>close button on OS X doesn't kill the window
Except it does. That's all it does, unlike Windows where it sometimes kills the entire program.
>>54805959
My wallpaper is 2560x1600 (cropped to 2560x1440). My display is 5120x2880, exactly 2x in each dimension. The wallpaper looks roughly the same as it would on a 2560x1440 monitor of the same size. You're essentially looking at a zoomed in version of my desktop.
>>54806001
/g/ hating OS X is a (true) meme.
I don't have this issue
>>54806019
not the wallpaper, genius, i'm talking about those tab previews crap you have there. fucking retard
>>54806000
If you dump the window it preserves the transparency, but you don't get the blurring effect (obviously) and it only shows your browser background. Pic related, not as pretty and not what I see when I use it.
>>54806001
Agreed. It's gotten a lot better with Windows 10, but still a long ways to go. It doesn't feel nearly as polished.
>>54806082
>It's gotten a lot better with Windows 10
Worse, it's gotten worse.
>>54806051
And? Like I said before, you're looking at my desktop zoomed in 400%. Everything is a quarter of the size on my screen, while still having the detail. The only way you'd notice that is putting your face to the screen.
>>54806001
well yeah. osx is for queers and windows is for getting actual work done. what do you expect
>>54806115
you don't know how scaling works, do you? i don't know why i expected more from a mac user..
>>54806099
You're joking. Everything before Windows 8 looked like straight garbage.
>>54805105
Nice Ubuntu clone.
Well.. There's worse things about Windows to be bothered about.
>>54806151
Actually, I don't think you know how pixel density works. Why don't you point out what's wrong with my post if you actually think you know what you're talking about?
>>54806099
At least it's not as tacky as Windows 7. I agree that they overdid it though. Flatter is nice, but I think it's just too much on Windows 10. But it's still better looking than Windows 7.
>>54806124
Depending on the kind of work you do Windows can be a certain dead end.
>>54806154
But windows before XP was minimalist, too
>>54806154
Everything looked better except for XP.
>>54806194
Retard
>>54806206
Not only worse than 7 but a piss poor failed attempt at flat.
It's obvious that the Windows UI has been designed in compartments by people with no background in visual design.
>>54806248
95 to Vista were made by designers
7 was just Vista with some crappy changes
>>54806248
>it's clear that Windows UI has been designed
Id say it's the opposite. It's just a coincidental thing that happened clearly. No human being would think it looks good or serves a purpose well.
>>54806245
Great argument.
If you have a 2560x1440 screen that is 27" large, and another screen that is 5120x2880, also 27" large, what do you need to do to make sure the UI is the same size on both displays?
I'll give you a few minutes to figure that one out.
>>54806224
No it wasn't. There wasn't much flashy going on in 98, but the reason is not the design philosophy, but technical limitations.
>>54806248
>>54806276
http://www.actsofvolition.com/archive/2005/may/windows95astudy
http://www.sigchi.org/chi96/proceedings/desbrief/Sullivan/kds_txt.htm
>>54806277
Read your comment again idiot. Saying that 'it is a zoomed in version of what you see' is simply out of this world. Typical fo you applel idiots.
>>54805926
Good ol bÃll looking out for the common man!
>>54806224
Windows 98 design holds up much better in modern design than XP, Vista or 7.
>>54806326
No it's not. You display physically cannot show screenshots taken at my computer at their normal size. Everything will 4 times as large on your display because for every pixel you have, mine has 4 in the same area. That's a physical limitation of your display. The only way you could mitigate it is to downsample the screenshot.
Pic related. In fact I could just take a screenshot with the UI scaling turned off and it'd look roughly the same as this.
>>54806388
Forgot my picture.
Compare this image to >>54805914
It will look 4 times as large because the original screen shot has 4 times as many pixels.
>>54806388
>You display physically cannot show screenshots taken at my computer at their normal size.
Stopped reading there. Fucking retard.
Daily reminder
>>54806415
Pic related, also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S2cnZ2QR70
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl5cN8Z7LnM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzGsUp3yM8w
First three videos on youtube. If you still don't understand the concept of pixel density (hint: the amount of pixels in a given area) then there's no hope for you.
>>54805127
Because it's moronic. Window handling should be separate from the menus, which are on the left usually.
>>54806494
The menus aren't on the windows in OS X. There's a universal menu. This fits into the idea of having a program run even with no windows, since you can always click on the dock icon and use the menu bar to open new files or windows.
>>54806452
Fucking idiot, I can see your shit natively. Which is what your monitor does too, I'm not seeing a 'zoomed in version'.
>>54805127
If anything having it on the left is the more plausible choice. But anyway, it just doesn't matter that much, you get used to it very quickly. Also, I kind of never use them ever, I just use shortcuts instead.
>>54806561
So how large is your monitor? Unless it's 24" or smaller, you're still seeing my screenshots larger than I would thanks to the fact you're pixel density is lower.
I hope your monitor is larger though, because unscaled 4k on a 24" monitor would be a pain to use. I'd like to think people would know better by now.
>>54806634
I'm wasting my time with a retard lile you when it's clear that both my monitor and yours represent a 1:1 version of your screenshot. I mean I'm talking with an idiot brainwashed by 'retina', so I should not expect anything more.
>>54806634
How can you tell how far this person is sitting from his monitor?
>>54805221
t. A raging autist
In no real world situation are you going to notice that the x is a single pixel off from being equal height to the rest of the icons, unless you have a really shifty resolution or you sit 2 inches from your screen
>>54806699
>it's clear that both my monitor and yours represent a 1:1 version of your screenshot.
1 pixel for every pixel. That doesn't mean your pixels are the same size and density as mine are.
>I mean I'm talking with an idiot brainwashed by 'retina', so I should not expect anything more.
Better than someone who can't even understand area and density.
>>54806725
If his monitor was small, it'd mean he'd have to be sitting very close to his monitor. That's generally not comfortable for most people and I believe it's even bad for your eyes. Why do you think I said I hoped his monitor was larger?
>>54805082
I tripped
>>54806729
A jagged edge on my display from your screenshot is present on yours as well. If you think the slightly higher density on yours is hiding it you are retarded.
>>54806846
>slightly higher density
A 400% increase in density isn't "slight". A high PPI monitor has 4 pixels in the same area as 1 pixel on a normal monitor.
>>54805105
those bright neon colors drive me fucking crazy I hate them so much
if you turn on it makes them darker but then everything else looks like shit
god I fucking hate flatshit and especially apple flatshit
>>54805950
It depends on the application. It's up to the developer's discretion. Some devs are just wrong.
>>54806901
And one pixel from your screenshit (x1;y1) goes to one pixel on your monitor (x1;y1) and on mine as well. You do realise that both monitors are filling one pixel of your image with one pixel from the panel, right?
>>54806933
if you turn on "Increase Contrast"
if only these were the only problems in modern OSes...
>>54806953
Yes, and you realize if every pixel is physically 4 times the sizes of mine, that means my screenshot will look 4 times as large when it's actually shown on your display, right?
>>54807066
That's a 15 (fifteen) inch laptop panel, how smaller is yours?
>>54806421
good read
>>54806421
>We don't know how this stuff works, but lets roll it out anyway!
Would probably make a great comedy movie.
>>54806421
>>54806634
Wew lad
>>54806343
Kek
>>54804827
>>54806421
>ALL CAPS SHOCK CANNOT BELIEVE WHAT IS HAPPENING
No one above 20 types like this, right?
>>54807577
Make it 30 because autism
>>54806421
>>54806421
DELETE THIS
>>54806421
That is such bullshit
The process he describes (adding a dropdown, XAML, etc.) is literally just a drag-and-drop in Visual Studio
You literally just drag the dropdown out of the tools menu and drop it on the control you want and it will generate the XAML and C#/C++ code for it, AND it will automatically generate the resource name
The guy knew this and decided to make-believe that the tools to automate what he described don't exist.
>>54806421
How I imagine Microsoft
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GM4Lt5k24s
>>54806421
Almost every complaint in that screenshot was typed by a fucking noob
The first one is automatically done in Visual Studio,
The second one is retarded because everyone uses Entity Framework, no one types SQL statements manually anymore
The third one is just a complaint against management practices? Has nothing to do with the framework or environment
The fourth one sounds like it was typed by a schizophrenic or someone suffering from a psychotic episode.
The fifth one pisses me off the most
>you have to have the proper things installed
>like .net 4.0 or 4.5, the html components, the asp.net components
Nigger what? You download and install Visual Studio and EVERYTHING is installed automatically. Literally fucking everything.
If you have the latest .NET framework, you have ALL of the pervious .NET frameworks too
You don't "install HTML and asp.net components", what the fuck does that even mean? Do you mean NuGet packages? Because those are installed once and TFS tracks then and installs them for every other developer.
I'm done I'm not reading anymore of this bullshit
>>54806049
What theme?
>>54807969
You actually think Windows is built using Visual Studio?
>>54808025
I've had times where a specific version of .net software was required, not just the latest version.
Also keep in mind that they may be running beta builds that aren't exactly working as intended.
Ubuntu with Arc theme
>>54805950
Want to close the window? Use the red button or keyboard shortcut
Want to close the app? Use the dock icon or keyboard shortcut
>>54804827
Install GNU/Linux.
Do NOT install KDE though, install Ubuntu or Ubuntu Gnome.
>>54804987
That looks like something you would make in 5 minutes in MS Paint.
Oh wait, wasn't there some anon that said all UI in Windows 10 was done in PowerPoint or some shit?
>>54807969
>drag and drop when programming
Guess we are back to Game Maker again eh?
>>54808025
>everything is done for you, you shouldn't care how
this is why windows breaks after a month.
