Will American technology ever catch up with Europe?
>electronic payment
Botnet/10
>>54781737
>>54781753
>but m-muh freedom!
What the fuck is up with those new chips that banks like BOFA have?
You have to stick the card into the cashier card reader. Its very clearly just an RFID chip, why can't I just tap it somewhere?
>Europe
You mean Skandinavian shitholes that brainwashed their population to completely give up any privacy.
In Sweden, you can even look up how much ANYONE makes, even your neighbors. They are completely mad. Good to know, that they will eventually die out and be replaced by muslims.
>>54781753
Americans have electronic payment too, only without any of the security.
>leave card in the open for someone to run in portable scanner while you look away
>oops you got scammed
>someone takes a picture of your card while pretending to swipe it
>oops you got scammed
is this paypass?
because I had paypass for years now
>>54781771
Chips and wireless are implemented well outside Scandinavia.
Near complete fiber and 4G coverage too, and whatever other things you're pretending you don't want.
Americans invent things, and Europeans get to implement them. Then America catches up some 20 years later (30 years in the case of the chip on the card).
>>54781783
aaand I live in eastern europe
>>54781737
america has technology now?
>>54781785
>Chips and wireless are implemented well outside Scandinavia.
I am talking about botnet payment methods here.
>Near complete fiber and 4G coverage too, and whatever other things you're pretending you don't want.
Again, totally different topic.
And I am not even American.
>>54781771
THIS! This is SOO American its stupid, people are scared to say how much they make! It's a GOOD thing if you know how much your neighbor makes, you can't get scammed doing the same job.
Muricans really are braindead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xH7eGFuSYI
>>54781737
Will American ever catch up with European window technology?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT8eBjlcT8s
Do you think his brain would explode if he'd notice micro ventilation?
>>54781827
>>Chips and wireless are implemented well outside Scandinavia.
>I am talking about botnet payment methods here.
If you're not talking about chips and wireless, what are you talking about?
>>54781771
Sweden is the most cucked nation on the planet, this is a well known fact.
Fortunately, Scandinavia and Europe are two very different things.
>nfc chip
>muhammad "accidentally" bumps into me
>empty bank account
>>54781882
Do you have less than €25 in your bank account? Because that's the only way your scenario is possible.
>>54781863
LOL, and we had them for like 15 years already, in every house.
>>54781753
How deluded can you be.
THIS is what you use to measure technology?
>Magnetic stripe
Werks instantly
>chip and pin
Slower than cash, constant chip errors
>contactless
Some fuck with a POS terminal went around the train bumping up against people, now what?
I'll stick to cash and checks.
>but i game the credit card companies i-i swear
>>54781907
/g/ measures everything in botnet/botnet
They all use it, but for them actual technology without a botnet would be a steam engine with a shaft going up yer butt.
>>54781931
>chip and pin
I guess it could fuck up, mine never do, I do get new bank cards by post like every few months tho, so the contacts are like new.
>contactless
my wallet and card pocket both have think metal layers so this is impossible, if I want to pay I just push the card out a little from the card pocket.
But yeah, cash is awesome
>>54781737
>using cards that get botnetted
>not using apple® pay™
>>54781737
Considering we've had that in Canada for like a decade pretty sure we don't need to "catch up"
Inb4 >I said America not Canada!
America is a continent the United States is a country.
>>54781753
>Some fuck with a POS terminal went around the train bumping up against people, now what?
Mate, which do you think is more likely: Some nignog having a POS terminal on him bumping into people, versus the same nignog straight up rolling your wallet?
Furthermore, in the very unlikely event that you get robbed with a POS terminal, your bank is obligated to refund you the damages.
>>54782013
>your bank is obligated to refund you the damages.
Don't be too harsh, this is a concept literally unheard of in the USA.
>>54781737
>implying nfc cards aren't a thing in america
nice try, yuropoor
>americans won't have access to 1/1 Gbit connections until 30 years from now, and even then it is going to be by Google which monitors and censors their Internet
>>54782057
When has Google censored anything on the internet? If it's the "right to be forgotten" debacle, that stemmed from Europe. If it's about DMCA takedown on search, that's more plausible in a way.
>>54782089
Google monitors
American Internet laws censor
>mfw americans are spending billions on developing new tech
>mfw we get to use said tech before them
New World is just a slave colony
>>54782110
>tfw changes to traffic laws to allow for fully automated driving will be chiseled out in 2017 here
>meanwhile the tardy US legal system won't allow them until decades into the future
>>54781766
But they're not just an RFID chip. If you look at the bifurcated chip, there are contacts that touch each separate piece to form a data bus.
>>54782057
> within 30 years europe will destroyed by muslims
>>54782212
>at which point it will literally be on par with the current state of the US
European countries are smaller than US states, its much easier to implement the infrastructure
>>54781846
>its stupid
No it isn't, because you should mind your own goddamn business, not you and God forbid the federal gubermint should know how much you make, much less make the records available online.
>Muricans really are braindead.
>privacy is now considered retarded
Fuck off eurotrash.
>>54782321
>Fuck off eurotrash.
Dude, I'm canadian, living in Japan.
You where talking about income not privacy in general.
Also, you are wrong and you should feel bad.
>>54782470
No, I'm not wrong. The government is the enemy of the free man and should be kept in check, the more information you give the government, the more you trust the government with things you should do yourself the more power it has over you which compromises your freedom.
>>54781737
I honestly don't remember when was the last time I paid in a store without using a proximity card. I know I shouldn't feed the botnet like that and always use cash, but it's just so fucking convenient.
>>54782123
This will probably be the case for Australia too because our government is run by dinosaurs.
>>54782499
You think the US government does not know about the salary of their people? Arte you nuts?
>>54781882
>He doesn't have rfid protection on his wallet.
lmao
half the stores here in Germany don't even take credit card or EC cards, NFC anything will probably come in 2025
>>54782560
Only the parts that deal with social security and insurance know how much you make, but they don't make their records public, because people have guns and want their privacy to be respected. The idea of some faggot on the interbutts just looking up your salary online is bizarre.
>>54782579
it's because you people killed all the jews
Samsung Payment makes it completely pointless.
>Samsung *Pay
Darn autocorrect
>>54781882
>I have no idea how this technology works so I'm afraid of it
I've found the American.
>300/300 mbit fiber for 75 dollarydoos a month
>uncapped
When will americans learn?
>>54781771
No you can't.
Thwt information is hidden.
There's "average salary of people with the name _____ in ___ city".
>>54781931
>Some fuck with a POS terminal went around the train bumping up against people, now what?
Wouldn't do anything - NFC and Chip payments are hashed - and just bumping into someone won't give you the hashing key. Its the payment processor / bank that issues the NONCE used in the transaction.
>>54781737
>europoor tech
lol
>>54783399
Thank god the US developed tumblr - it is the perfect platform for my extreme feminist views.
>>54781774
Are you retarded? They would have to be standing suspiciously next to you for that to work you idiot.
>>54783399
99% of those things was developed by EU immigrants.
>>54782592
Because Joe working for the same company and doing the same shit is making 800 bucks more because he "sucked" your bosses dick. Glad you don't know about that, if you would, you could stand up to your boss and demand a rise too. Good we don't know how much anyone makes!
>>54783465
Silly, but almost everyone in the US is a immigrant, most are from EU, only indians are natives.
>>54781863
Burgers don't have these?
>get wallet stolen
>buys shit without the security of the code
10/10 genius
>>54781863
How the fuck do you put an air conditioner in those windows??
Does a person have to spend $10 thousand to add central air to their home to have those huge ass windows installed?
>>54783518
I think over here (Ausfailia) purchases over $100 require a pin.
>>54781863
That's the wood & marble abacus guy. He makes really fun stuff. Like the DIY compressed air rifle.
> not paying with your phone
>>54781863
I'm european, but:
Doesn't it make more sense to have simpler sliding windows? With those windows you only have the binary choice of 'little opening/big opening'. With sliding windows you get a continuous opening.
Also, easier to fix.
>>54783574
>un-ironically wanting to be tracked and data-mined
>also wanting to pay higher prices because of credit payment surcharges
>>54783564
I still think it's a bad idea to sacrifice security for laziness.
Same with not needing the CVC when you buy shit with credit cards in the USA.
>>54782048
They were found to have a vulnerability, My Barclay card actually recently dumped NFC for chip.
>>54781785
>americans invent things
you mean europeans who go study in america and then decide to stay there because you literally buy them ?
>>54783616
> credit payment surcharges
What?
>>54783702
banks charge retailers money every time you use an electronic payment
Yes, murrica will go straight to bank apps. My bank has an app that offers payments and atm withdrawal with token codes and payments using NFC just like using a classic chip cards.
>>54783725
Like they aren't already included in the price of items you buy?
>tfw Apple Pay would would have taken of swimmingly if Apple had just let it be a free service for banks
>>54783616
>also wanting to pay higher prices because of credit payment surcharges
You pay those higher prices whether you pay with cash or a credit card you fucking retard. The "higher prices" already factored in to the price of the items you're purchasing. It's not like 5 bucks gets tacked onto your total during checkout if you pay with a credit card.
>>54781737
President Trump will advance American technology so far, Europe will then be catching up with Africa.
>>54783895
you card using mongoloids are driving the prices up on us who value privacy and freedom
>>54782041
In the US you refund the banks.
>>54783725
Outside of America? Nope
Will European technology ever catch up with America?
>>54785121
what the fuck is that?
>>54785200
an air conditioning vent, i think
>>54785121
>using the smiley with a carat nose
Ok guys, the jig is up. I think we have made the impression to the mods that this is a tech thread...
Post your anime /g/.
>>54781882
>not knowing about the €25 limit for unauthenticated contactless payments
>shitposting on /g/
>>54781931
You'd need an acquirer to accept payments and cardholders are not liable for unauthenticated contactless payments
>>54782579
even ALDI takes contactless credit card payments now, which version of Germany are you living in?
>>54781931
What the fuck is a 'check'?
>>54785523
Americans can't spell 'Cheque' - Not that it matters, given how obsolete they are. Hell, most places in the civilised world don't even take cheques any more.
To be honest europe is always pushing tech that is not really ready yet and US just jumps over straight to real thing.
ISDN and diesel cars for example.
>>54781766
>Its very clearly just an RFID chip, why can't I just tap it somewhere?
You seem to have no clue what the fuck your talking about
>>54785279
>being illiterate
>>54783469
Stop projecting your desire to suck cocks, you cock crazed cumdumpster slut.
>>54785455
Okay
>muhammad keeps bumping into me while dry humping me since he can't find a goat
>bank account filled with €25 charges to Halal Meat Co.
>>54783532
>How the fuck do you put an air conditioner in those windows?
By not build houses out of cardboard and having proper insulation
>>54782057
how many goats per second is that? have to appease to all those Muslim cocks as they rape your women :^)
>>54781954
>apple pay
>not botnet
Some is enjoying the iButtplug Apple send him.
>>54783465
EU immigrants fleeing europe to a better America
>It's a yurocuck has an unwarranted sense of superiority episode
the entire EU barely has an economy ever so slightly larger than our SINGLE (1) country
you're actively destorying your own culture and ridicule people who care about their natural rights
you're a laughingstock
>>54785686
*destroying
>>54785608
There is a limit on consecutive unauthenticated payments. Furthermore, cardholders are not liable for unauthorised contactless payments so either your own or muhammad's bank would absorb the charges. If a merchant causes too many chargebacks, they'll likely lose their contract with the acquiring bank (or the bank will get in trouble with the network).
There are easier ways to steal money.
>>54785578
>>54781771
>In Sweden, you can even look up how much ANYONE makes,
That was in the old days. Not so simple anymore. You can pay to see a person's tax statement, but ofc u can pay for a credit assessment in most countries.
>>54787826
sweden is finished
who cares
>>54781737
>card
>nfc
enjoy getting fucked over by identity theft faggot
>>54787852
I've seen this before but never commented.
Until today.
Why are the boys super faggy?
>>54783430
it actually is though
>>54787948
They're european
>>54781931
>>chip and pin
>Slower than cash, constant chip errors
holy fucking america
>chip errors
when and where
>>54785259
Heater/Air condoning.
>>54781771
>be Norwegian
>enjoy equality and transparency
>still have stronger privacy laws regarding anything else compared to the US
Why so mad?
>>54781737
I pay with my phone for everything.
>>54783590
No.
>>54785121
We have other, simple solutions
too lazy to search and post for you
do it yourself, fat americunt
>>54788172
>I cannot find any support for my position so I'll just insult Americans and hope they are too patriotic to notice my empty trolling
>>54782231
lol fat chance, we stay raciest for a reason
>>54787973
shots fired
>>54781737
Americunts don't have contactless? Is America actually Africa?
>>54781785
I live in shithole england and yeah we have contactless, 4g, fiber, unlimted cheap* too.
* Cheap compared to americunt
>>54788340
When did smartphone payment systems require contact? Of course, this doesn't include McDonald's which has been using contactless for years. . .
We have this shit in Chile
>>54781931
>using cheques
Okay grandma, just let them have all of your info if it gets into the wrong hands
>>54788207
It's not empty
just search for it yourself
>>54788633
>I'm not lying and trying to send you off on a wild goose chase
I take it you've never heard of the shifting the burden of proof fallacy?
>>54788702
>some amerifat claims we don't have x
>I say we have x
>burden of proof fallacy
well whatever keep shitposting then
>>54788745
>some amerifat claims we don't have x
Your empty claim is justified by another person's empty claim? Are you nine years old?
>>54783532
Europeans can't afford air conditioning jackass
>>54781737
I remember my first bait attempt
>>54788780
yes and no
>>54788863
>yes
That's the same argument as a nine year old makes.
>and no
Then stop behaving like one.
>>54788840
Depends where you live - many parts of europe don't get hot enough to the point where you need air conditioning.
>>54788905
On summer, it's getting hot enough to want AC even in Canada. Don't be stupid.
>>54788922
>>54788922
Europoor here, it only ever gets barely hot enough for 1 to 2 weeks at most per year here, not worth the air conditioning.
>>54788922
Hey jockamette, canada isn't in europe.
>>54781863
I'm italian and I have those kind of windows, I thought they were standard????
>>54791141
Certainly nothing beyond what an open window and fan can't solve.
>>54783532
>How the fuck do you put an air conditioner in those windows??
I've actually done that, lol.
It's far from perfect perfect, but this is what I do:
- open the window
- put the air-conditioning hose through it.
- put a piece of wood above the hose and between the window and the wall, to fill the remaining gap as good as possible.
- secure the wood with a metal bar between the window and the wall, this also stops the window from opening further.
- there is still a gap above the window - it sucks but I just leave that as is.
- close the curtains to cover the less than stellar job.
It's a pain.
But it's only for a couple of weeks a year.
>>54788922
Canada has a land climate.
Eastern Europe also has a land climate, so most people have air-conditioning there.
But most of Western Europe has a sea climate.
>>54781737
>be american
>have a regular swipe credit card
>already has fraud protection gaurentee by the card company
>new fancy chipped card comes in the mail, must upgrade to retain fraud protection
>no extra security because you can still swipe at older terminals that are not upgraded
>Even when that gets phased out, no extra security because you can still type the numbers in online
>In places that actually take the chip, it takes an extra minute for it to process
The future is now!
>>54781931
>>Magnetic stripe
>Werks instantly
Gets hacked all the time.
Banks have lost billions already.
It's called "skimming" - see pic.
>>chip and pin
>Slower than cash, constant chip errors
>>contactless
>Some fuck with a POS terminal went around the train bumping up against people, now what?
Both Chip and Pin and contactless use asymmetrical encryption.
They never give anyone the key, they only prove they have it.
So you can't simply copy the key from a chip, like you can with a magnetic strip.
That was the hole point of switching to chips in the first place.
>>54783399
Look up Sir Tim Berners-Lee
>>54791552
Amerifat doesn't know what the fuck he is talking about.
I have used chip and pin for years and contactless for the last couple, try actually using the tech before bitching about it.
>>54791552
>you can still type the numbers in online
This still baffles me about America's retarded state of technology.
How on earth has America not discovered two-factor authorization yet?
We've been using two-factor for internet banking since the 1990's.
>>54791657
The same systems work much better in Europe and the rest of the world.
The slowdowns in America are caused by their shitty internet speeds.
>>54791657
Yes, I have one. For about 6 months now. Walmart is the only one who actually requires it. What did I say that was wrong?
>>54791683
I have 2 factor authentication for my email/bank login. Y'all have 2 factor authentication for all online purchases by any site?
>>54791709
>Y'all have 2 factor authentication for all online purchases by any site?
Yes.
Whenever I buy something online I just select my bank, get send to my bank's site to complete the transfer (suing two-way), and then get send back to shop's site.
The nice thing is: the bank also informs the shop immediately that the money has been transferred.
So no waiting for payment confirmations - my purchases can be send out right away.
>>54782057
I've had a 1/1 connection for about over 3 years, and I'm in BFE Texas.
>>54782901
I pay about that for 1/1 fiber in Texas. Have a nice day.
>>54785054
You think credit card transactions are free for the vendor? You might consider lowering the amount of crack you smoke.
>>54788248
Raciest? Judges? We will accept it.
>>54791657
I have, it blows.
>>54791860
Not him, but in Europe they are a lot lower.
In fact most shopkeepers prefer electronic payment because the labor costs involved in handling cash is higher.
>>54791320
Standards are a communist invention which was rejected by the American population.
>>54791552
>>In places that actually take the chip, it takes an extra minute for it to process
Wtf is wrong with Americans? It takes literally 3 seconds or less here.
>>54792017
If that's so, then they are fucked here. It takes at least twice as long to use a chip in the US, at least from my experience.
>>54788071
>>chip errors
>when and where
Literally just went to buy pants today, spent 20 minutes in line because the chip reader was malfunctioning, the store ended up having to call in and manually authorize it, and I ended up with four charges on my card and had to call the bank to remove them. Never had any problem like that with magnetic stripes.
>>54792156
>living in india
Sorry, I mean Iowa.
>>54792211
>Sorry, I mean Iowa.
Actually, I think you meant Phoenix.
I recently moved to the US, and banking here sucks. I have 2 accounts in different banks, and money transfer between them takes 2-3 business (!) days. In Europe you can do it instantly.
Why so long, and why business days? Do they shut down their servers during weekends?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jEz03Z8azc
>Americans will NEVER EVER catch up to this
lmao
>>54781737
just steal my data senpai
![Moon+Landing+1920x1200+wallpaper[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4vPVRCn.jpg "Moon+Landing+1920x1200+wallpaper[1].jpg")
>>54792498
:^)
I have a card with all the bells and whistles but I still use cash.
No botnet and you get to touch the qt cashiers hand :D
>>54783937
Sucks to be you
>>54785601
>this is how muricans make themselves seem so retarded, oh wait, they are retarded.
>>54792498
I'll remember this the next time I'm in need of a rocket. You remember OP the next time to you pay for something.
>>54792795
America truly is a media giant.
I pay for almost everything with contactless card payments. It's super fucking convenient.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd9WfVENajw
>american cable management
>>54793218
>wheezing from a light walk
>>54781737
Aldrig.
>>54781753
Watch out, we got a technoluddite here
>>54781737
Going on a tangent here but what's your opinion on electronic voting?
>>54787973
No, this is the result of 3rd wave femnazism
>>54794782
DEY TOOK YUR VOAT
I would rather not have to get an aluminum wallet just to stop my credit card from being scanned while it's in my fucking pocket, thank you very much. I don't care if I'm using a magnetic strip or a chip and pin, as long as the card can only be scanned when I put it into the fucking machine. No contact-less payment bullshit. Fuck that noise.
>>54783399
How about you add these to Europe:
Computers
The Internet
>>54781737
>be german
>pay in cash
feels good
>>54794782
Software can have bugs in it, which can sway elections. I prefer Washington's way of handling elections. Everyone gets their ballot mailed to them like three or so weeks in advance. This gives voters plenty of time to review all of the candidates on the ballot, even just people running for local elections (like, say, port commissioner), and also, because the government already has on file whether you're a citizen or not, there is no need to check IDs. You just don't get mailed a ballot if you're not a citizen or otherwise ineligible to vote.
>>54782592
>People want their privacy respected.
I don't care what the government knows. They've known too much about people way before current technological advances.
What I don't want is for regular people to know things about me. THAT is where privacy is a concern. I'm more worried about potential employers snooping around than the government.
>>54792498
>>54792795
I'm American and even I know that most of the people who where behind getting man to the moon where European scientists. Even the rocket was invented by Europeans. You make me ashamed of myself for being American, anon.
>>54795090
I fucking love fennecs
>>54796320
Americans ARE Europeans you fucking retard
>>54794954
dump tripfag
>>54796365
Americans are Europeans born in America, I'm talking about Europeans born in Europe, dipshit. Didn't think about that, did you?
>>54785619
this desu, my house is cool inside at 40°C outside. Not the top floor mind you, but the rest of it is
>>54792156
dude you can't be serious
I'm paying with chip and pin since I can remember and the only time I had problems with it was back in the days when I was 13 and my bank account didn't hold enough money for the shitty magazine I was trying to buy
>>54782499
Yeah, you're wrong.
>tfw Europoors think they know what Freedom is
>>54781863
>>54781863
Was stationed in Germany for 2 years, lived in the barracks.
I had a love hate relationship with these windows.
>>54791860
I don't give a fuck that the person selling me something has to pay money to a credit processor. Go back to Pripyat, Alekszander.
>>54781737
head of biggest Russian bank Sberbank announced 3 days ago that his bank will completely abandon plastic cards in favor of biometry in just 4 years
>>54797202
sounds like bullshit
>>54796320
And the Chinese invented gunpowder and then did jack shit with it.
Everybody was working on rocketry and the Germans had been investing more into it so everybody wanted their plans and scientists so they could skip a lot of their mistakes.
Wernher von Braun used American Robert H. Goddard's (who is considered the father of modern rocketry) work to get his program going.
>>54781882
Kaspersky posted on his blog recently a pic from Moscow metro where someone is secretly holding portable nfc card reader used in retail stores. It seems like it already began
>>54797171
>tfw my country does not have NSA
>>54797206
well, maybe they won't abandon plastic cards completely, but limited testing of biometry (voice recognition + image recognition) already began.
Sberbank claims that their technology that uses voice + image + fingerprint recognition provides 99.99% success rate.
>>54791860
>printing money
>making it counterfeit-proof
>handling it by millions of cashiers every day
>rolling coins in wrappers
>driving shit to the bank and back
>waste time and energy
so, paying with cash is free then I guess.
>not paying and confirming payments with youe phone
>2016
>>54781785
Americans don't want fiber optic internet, they really don't.
Don't be like the cucks in Argentina! poor fools down there don't understand how bad they messed up.
Btw, last month you went over your 250 gb/month bandwidth allowance and you've already used up your WARNING.. so its going to be another $300 on you bill for this month.
our politicians dont want to stop muggers from having a living. see with people carrying real cash and their drivers license its easier for jamal to steal money and then going to your home (address is on your drivers license in the wallet he stole) to steal more.
>>54797884
>>54797884
>americans dont want fiber
what? everyone that is a millenial does and understands fiber is superior. its the old people who don't grasp it and when verizon comes to remove the copper wiring to replace with fiber they throw a hissy fit because to them thicker copper wire means its better than a flimsy fiber wire. old fucks are the only ones that still use landlines still too. basically its all the babyboomers fault.
>>54798235
also outside of God Emperor all Republicans are dogshit and let corperations rape the plebs silly. In Democrat controlled states you see ISPs can't get away with much like in GOP states. Thank God Trump is turning the GOP into a workers party from the elite party.
>>54798235
I never understood this, America pioneered the idea of large infrastructure improvements in order to improve the economy. You got highways, dams, all kinds of shit with this. How come nobody ever said, hey, how about we cover the place with a future proof fibre and set a goal for 90% of connections to be 1/1 or higher? Instead it's oh, we increased the average speed by a megabit, fuck yeah.
>>54798248
your post just looked like a markov chain of hyper-polarized political tweets.
>>54785686
>people who care about their natural rights
LOL.
Cute, you think you have "natural" rights. How fucking far do the embed that shit into the American ideology?
>>54798263
we do have dark fiber that was never used. also since Reagan the GOP has been doing everything in its power to cut any government funded infrastructure at all costs which is why we have bridges that are literally falling apart here.
>>54798266
>implying politics don't cover the subject of fiber expansion in the US
>>54798280
there is no such thing as "rights". Might makes right is the only truth in life. I have the right to murder people if I wanted if I had enough power to do it and get away with it.
>>54798307
Perhaps you should stop confusing "rights," or principles of freedom/entitlements, with "right," or appropriate, accurate, or correct.
>>54797884
>Btw, last month you went over your 250 gb/month bandwidth
>month
>americans
In the first world that's about what you use up in one day
>>54781753
enjoy getting robbed
>>54788922
hello stupid
>>54783487
>only indians are natives
>indians
>>54785121
>disgusting design
>>54785121
>those screws
it is like you want Tooms to harvest your liver
>>54785914
that's because in the us, you can just give a waiter your card, you don't have to input a pin, the waiter could be cloning your card without you knowing it.
heck, alot of places in the us don't even accept cards and if they do, it'll be those shitty outdated magnet strips
completely insecure
>>54787948
that's how boys look like when they're not fat
>>54792795
>fake
>>54797171
this is exactly why the rest of the world laughs at the us, thanks for confirmation
>>54799051
It is also because you're banks are literally, unironically ran by Jews
In Europe banks cooperate to stop scams and you can have the transactions rolled back easily even over minor shit like buying stupid subpar stuff on our versions of eBay
>>54783487
>>>>only Indians are natives
>>>>Most are from EU
ITT: Nobody understands the logistics of MAKING large changes to an infrastructure the size of the US vs the size of the UK.
>>54799105
Apologies for the caps lock, new phone.
Goddamn Google keyboard...
>>54781863
i......i kinda want those windows.
your typical american slide windows are pretty shitty i must say.
glass doors are best windows.
>>54799105
>this explains why even the miniscule, richest US states are still third world compared to Europe
good meme
>>54799080
US is one of the few countries in the world that doesn't ban "hate speech" or has government mandated internet censorship.
>>54799145
>or has government mandated internet censorship
Literally most censored Internet in the world after North Korea, China, Germany and the UK
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_the_United_States
>>54799141
There are isolated areas, where certain technologies are implemented on a fairly large scale in the US ie: Google fiber.
Just depends on where you go. There are a large number of rural and suburban areas in the US where implementing those same technologies just isn't cost effective. For instance, I have Charter Internet, which is 70/20, yet my friend, who lives 15 minutes away, has to make do with some tiny unknown isp that tops out at like 5/2, because a lake runs through the area, and the residents are relatively few and far between.
He asked about an estimate to run lines out there, and the cost was somewhere in he range of $30k for just his place, and he only has 4 neighbors within about 2 miles or so, and then it's just very sparsely populated woodland until you reach the next town.
They all own rather large plots of land, but the tradeoff is that their infrastructure is behind, because the cost/ benefit ratio is so bad for companies worried about their bottom line. It would take years to clear, build, and populate those areas, and there is very little demand. Plus the people that own the land generally inherited it, so they don't have money (or reason) to develop the area. So unless some large company decides to buy land and develop there, it'll remain rural.
>>54799270
this. i get 6 down 4 up for $50/month in the rural USA.
sure i could pay twice that for 100 down but i know better, the local telephone company can barely keep the internet running during november and december with all the kids hogging up all the bandwidth, how the fuck can i rely on them to push 100 megabits?
as long as i can play 1080p shit on jewtube i'm good.
>>54799168
Yep, still no censorship.
Meanwhile, in Yurop, yet another country is blocking torrent sites:
https://torrentfreak.com/kickasstorrents-must-be-blocked-in-finland-court-rules-160503/
>>54799270
>who lives 15 minutes away, has to make do with some tiny unknown isp that tops out at like 5/2, because a lake runs through the area, and the residents are relatively few and far between.
>mfw I live rural and lakeside, with 8 miles to the nearest town, and yet the gubbament paid for the ISP to blast through granite and sink the fiber through the lakes so my neighbourhood could be reached
Isn't future-proofing a thing in the US?
If we had passed on that opportunity it would be extremely pricey though
>>54782057
>tfw live in glorious Denmark
>tfw 1Gbit fiber for the equivalent of 45 freedom bucks/month
>>54799389
Federal gubment $ >>> state gubment $
Also idk how I feel about taxpayer dollars going to pay for developing some hillbilly's Internet.
If the area becomes more populated, some isp will see an opportunity to make some cash, and do it on their own dime, but the government going to all that trouble for a handful of people sounds wasteful.
I understand if you want the area to become more developed, but why not fund a few buildings in the area, or roads, instead, if that's the goal? Internet is a luxury, not something that will spark development.
>>54799091
consumer isn't liable for fraudulent purchases
>>54781766
>>Its very clearly just an RFID chip
>I have no idea what a contact chip is vs an RFID chip
FTFY
>>54799141
>third world
The US can never be a third world country by definition.
First world = US & allies
Second world = USSR & Allies
Third world = allies of neither
>>54798263
The US corporations have too much power. The government should own the "last mile" to homes of fiber to an interconnect point and then multiple ISPs compete at the interconnect.
>>54792682
>What is challenge response
With phones the NFC attack window is not meaningful with the wallet needing to be opened and unlocked.
>>54799548
>The US can never be a third world country by definition.
Why do all Americans resort to this?
First world = developed country today.
America will never be a developed country.
>>54799589
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_World
>While there is no current consensus on an exact definition of the term, in modern usage, "First World country" generally implies a relatively wealthy, stable and functional non-theocratic democracy with a reasonably well educated population, or just any developed country.
>implying the US is not a developed country
kek europe
>>54799457
fed already gave ISPs billions to lay down fiber and they squandered it.
This is such a silly argument, the only reason america lags in this area is because they had eftpos first and the old infrastructure is in place.
It's like roads, in america they're all grid and highway, laid out much later than europes road system, which is tight and curvy, much more organic.
Give it 100 years for infrastructure renewal time to tick over and america will have replaced eftpos with something else, while europe is stuck on pin and chip v 8 or something.
Another 100 years and they will have leapfrogged each other again
>>54799548
>First world = US & allies
HAHAHAHAHAHA! is this what they teach you in "schools"? :'D Oh man your country is pathetic
First, second, third are just an arbitrary value of development, and it's bound to change over time.
I seriously suggest you travel more so that you don't make a fool of yourself and your whole "united states" every time you open your mouth in front of the rest of the world.
Jesus christ...
>>54799632
fuck off, we don't want you here
>>54799632
It's a chauvinism thread, all the arguments are pretty silly. A century's a bit of a high estimate, however. I reckon it'll be two or three decades.
>>54799632
Same story with 2G/3G/4G cellular Internet
The USA skipped 3G
Germany, I don't know about the rest of Europe, has a wide 3G deployment, making it a reasonable option still.
>>54799621
No they didn't.
Most cable companies offer at least 100mbit these days.
>>54799691
>13 ms for < 50 miles
>>54799621
And there's various states in the US with similar or even higher populations that have on average faster speeds than the fastest EU nations.
All you idiots are just riding on the achievements of great people, regardless of nationality, to have petty arguments on the internet.
>>54787948
I believe they were instructed to act how they think the opposite sex acts. Hence why they act so girly.
>>54781737
>HE DOES NOT USE CASH
gg GOY ENJOY BECOME PROFILED AND PACKAGED AS A PRODUCT,AS WELL AS BE FRAMED FOR A CRIME CAUSE YOU BOUGHT SOME CANDY NEAR A CRIME SCENE MOMENT BEFORE IT HAPPENED
>>54801005
>swecuck trying to save face
>>54801318
your points apply to murica only
