Lets assume that it's possible to generate every possible 400x400 jpg in existence. Will I be able to see every possible situation, every possible human that has ever lived or will live? Every piece of art that hasn't been made yet? Will I be able to see taylor swift naked?
How many images will this generate?
Oh look, it's this thread again.
160000!*32000000 or something like that
>>54780511
If 400x400 jpg is ok for you, then yes.
Someone calculate how many different images there can be, assuming a 256 color palette
>>54780590
Theoretically, you would also have a zoomed in version of every image. So for a 400x400 image, there will be one that is a zoomed in version of only the first 20x20 pixels of the original, does that make sense?
So you could generate an arbitrarily large image from those 400x400 tiles.
>>54780607
You couldn`t create a large image using those tiles, because it`d look like a glitch.
This would be the first image generated, then the first pixel will change to every color/shade and then repeat and repeat until every possibly image be generated.
>>54780511
160000^256 = 10^1300 combinations or so
for comparison, a password often said to be uncrackable like a 40-letter latin alphabet string would be 40^26 = 10^40 or so
>>54780704
Look at the first pixel.
>>54780663
But there is an image of every possible thing, then surely there would be another image of the same thing but closer up
>>54780711
That's more the estimated amount of atoms on Earth.
>>54780755
It`s quite impossible to locate the similar image that complain the puzzle
>>54780511
>Lets assume that it's possible to generate every possible 400x400 jpg in existence
Funny joke.
>How many images will this generate?
Assuming standard 24bpp color and a 400x400 image, there are roughly 10^1100000 possible arrangements.
Super fucking impossible.
>>54780756
you can use somehing bigger than that.
It's so much larger than the atoms in the known universe, that if the number of atoms in the universe as a whole were a number with 1000 extra zeroes on the end, it would still be smaller than this number of possible combinations.
>>54780770
If you have every possible 400x400 permutation, then you know for sure it exists somewhere in the set.
A 400x400 image of a newspaper might not have legible text, but somewhere in the set there is a closeup of the first sentence.
>>54780511
>Will I be able to see taylor swift naked?
!
da erf
>>54780711
>160000^256 = 10^1300 combinations or so
This is wrong. It would be 256^160000, or 2.5*10^385318.
>>54780756
>>54780882
If every proton, neutron, and electron in our universe was actually a universe of it's own, there's still (far) more possible images for a 256 color 400x400 image than there would be protons, neutrons, and electrons in the combined universes.
>>54780770
don't worry, there also exists tileset of every larger image with markers on them to make them easy to stitch together!
>>54781052
Shit, nigger.
Time to make an 400x400 brute force image generator
>>54780511
>if i have a digital representation of every thing ever, will I have a digital representation of this specific thing?
u srs?
you will have the same thing as now, when someone does a shoop so convincing the only way you know its fake is because they tell you. You'll have swift in every position/outfit you can think of, but no way of knowing which images are the analog for an actual picture of her in that position/outfit.
8 colors 8x8 image. 1 image per second
how long would it take to see them all?
https://babelia.libraryofbabel.info/slideshow.html
>>54781125
you might have some trouble with that
>>54781125
Two hundred trillion trillion trillion trillion years.
Exponential functions
The problem here is you are all assuming you are going to look at the pictures manually lmao
you create a program that selects the pictures that aren't garbage
>>54781173
>(8^8)^8
Holy shit, what a fuckup. Is that the best you can do?
>>54780511
it's certainly possible to generate them all, it's storing them all that's not possible
>>54781125
>>54781173
How about 2 x 2, then? Surely it can't be that much
>>54781202
you'd still have to generate them all, unless you're able to create God to pick them out.
>>54781213
Did you fail out of algebra?
Have you taken algebra?
>>54781202
How would you evaluate an image to be not-garbage?
That's subjective
Yes you would. However, the number of images you would generate would be so large that it would be impossible to see a fraction of them.
Think larger than the number of atoms in the universe big.
>>54781213
Still 8 colors, 1 image per second? That's much more reasonable Would take about an hour and 15 minutes.
>thinking a resolution this small will ever yield an interesting image
>>54781231
Still wrong. Let's say we have a single pixel. A 1x1 image. How many possibilities for 8 colors? According to you, (1*1)^8 = 1 and only one possibility. Clearly wrong. You have it backwards, which is also giving you faaaaaaaaar lower numbers than the correct answers.
>>54781227
?
That amount of images it would generate.
>>54781251
damnit
>>54781213
>How about 2 x 2, then? Surely it can't be that much
a 2x2 square with alternating black & white images
it would take 16 seconds
>>54781173
>you might have some trouble with that
It would require a few reincarnations.
Makes me think of this: https://libraryofbabel.info/
>library of babel [...] Thus, it would contain every book that ever has been written, and every book that ever could be - including every play, every song, every scientific paper, every legal decision, every constitution, every piece of scripture, and so on. At present it contains all possible pages of 3200 characters, about 104677 books.
How could I write image generator for i.e. 20x20 pixels?
>>54781269
Uh, no. With a 2x2 black and white, there is only 4 possible combinations, when you consider rotating the image.
Here's a stupid question, building off of OP's question, how feasible would it be to build a program that generates the minimum amount of images, generates 1 image each 2 or 3 minutes, and shares the workload?
What I'm thinking is this:
a website that is designed to serve one person for 2 or 3 minutes each and houses the image generator
it generates 1 image within that timeframe
the generator skips boring images (images that are one solid color or the amount of pixels that are unique colors range from 1 to 8000)
each image has a unique string of characters to represent it
the only information that is stored is the currently generated image and it's string
whenever someone generates a new image, the old image gets deleted and the new image is generated based off a string that is the successor (sequentially) to the previous string
After that, it's up to the people using the program to save and share any interesting images they find. The goal would then be not to generate all the images that can exist, but only the ones that are the most interesting.
>>54781091
>mfw I will finally realise my fetish of seeing a 12 yo cosplayer girl strapon-fuck taylor swift while covered in mud
>>54780598
(400*400)^256 which is an insanely high number.
>>54781249
great! you generated constanza!
see? it wasn't so difficult was it?
[spoiler]there's a hidden message in this post[/spoiler]
>>54781316
/g/, everyone
>>54781232
Muh ai machine lurning
>>54781388
>>54781405
I can program a distributed SETI-like generator. If you setup a google-images-like canvas of thumbnails, you can see at a glance if there's anything interesting and zoom in.
It would be a huge fractal noise pattern image with images of things hidden in its pixels.
This shit makes me anxious and panicky.
>>54780511
Yes, but also infinitely more pictures that will never happen. And you can't discern between those categories.
Theoretically this works. Practically there's just no way to generate enough pictures quickly enough and have them be selected automatically for you.
It would take you a lifetime and you'd just sight noise.
>>54781437
Do it.
>>54781388
there aren't enough atoms in the universe to build enough PCs to generate even a fraction of the pictures in a million years.
>>54781490
>>54781437
Except it wouldn't. There's too much noise. It would be almost impossible to stumble upon actual images inside that clusterfuck.
I won't do it unless we find a way to either filter out the noise (image recognition wouldn't work, too many images to filter and it would take too long) or a way to present it to the user so that he can do it quickly.
>>54781437
No you can't.
64x64 at 4 colors is feasible and I'm currently programming it just because it's saturday
Two words.
Quantum computers.
>>54781540
>4^4096
>feasible
making africa a civilized place is more feasible
>>54780607
that means you're not only looking for every variation of a 400x400, but also at all the combinations between those images
the numbers become astronomical
>>54781540
Only 1.0907481 * 10^2466 possibilities, sounds totally feasible. I was going to post the full decimal number but it wouldn't fit in the comment.
>>54781437
enjoy watching tv-like noise for the rest of your life
>>54781497
Instead of generating many images as fast as possible, what about just generating at least a few images every now and then. Provided there is a system in place that influences what images the generator produces (to filter out images that don't have anything recognizable in them), then surely we would see stuff that has never been seen before, right?
When I say generating images based on a string of characters, I mean a string that acts like a set of instructions for how the image should be made. In it's most simplest and least optimized form, it would be like one long string of hex codes that is then parsed by the program to determine what color each pixel should be. Strings that generate "boring" images could be blacklisted from being used by the generator. Boring images would include images that are one solid color or images that are mostly one solid color with a small group or groups of pixels that vary in color.
The stronger the filters are and the more filters there are would then reduce the chances of noisy/static-y images being generated and raise the chances of interesting images (images depicting people, places, or things) being produced.
Consider:
>Generate a random image with dimensions x by x
> Run through a reverse image search
>Record what you find
It would be extremely slow and completely different but an interesting concept.
https://babelia.libraryofbabel.info/
>there exists a combination of 0 and 1's that's shows a picture of my onitis naked
>>54781316#!/usr/bin/python
import image_generator
images = image_generator.generate_them_images(20, 20)
>>54781977
>there exists a combination of 0 and 1's that's shows a picture of you shaggin you're mom
>>54780663
Where in the realm of continuous mathematics, which in this case, the answer is yes. Yes you could. Any image represented by tiles will eventually render any sequence of tiles in the correct order given the ability for t -> Inf.
But as for singular images, the answer is no, since there is a limited amount information to express something approaching the infinite (with your phrasing). Not allowing for limited success cases like blurry representations or partial crops.
>>54781202
Very easily with Haar Cascade feature detection with opencv.
>>54782586
how many quadrillion images per nanosecond can you select with that?
(number of different values a single pixel can have)^(400x400)
>mfw this would be possible on a quantum computer
>>54782636
Let's make it a little more feasible by allowing only 1-bit images.
2**(400*400) = 6.2995023e48164
Should be possible in our lifespan, right?
>>54782673
should be done by tomorrow breh
What if you could filter out noise-like images?
E.g. A certain amount of pixels should be roughly the same color as the surrounding pixels
>>54782716
It would still take forever because it takes a few microseconds to determine if a given image is too noisy.
>>54782716
It shouldn't be "filtering out", it should be that noisy images aren't generated to begin with. Else you're wasting boat loads of time generating images that don't look like anything. You just need to find a good way to determine if an image is worth generating. In a way, this is what that Google LSD trip generator did, it only generated images that it thought represented an object it had seen before.
>>54782721
we have this thread at least once every month or two, and when someone brings it up, it hangs around for a few days
people just can't comprehend just how big these numbers are
>>54782762
this desu senpai, mods should really start closing this autism
For an AI to filter out noise, it needs to know what isn't noise. So to filter out everything that isn't something like Taylor Swift naked, it needs to know what Taylor Swift naked looks like. And if it knows that, then there is no need for random generation.
it would be far more efficient to train some neural net to draw porn for you
Hey, thats pretty good! I'll start on the logo!
,'^)
>>54782774
It can know what a naked woman looks like and then generate naked women until it generates a naked Taylor Swift
>>54782778
>useing the smylie with de karat noas!
>>54782782
It still will generate more naked women than there are atoms in the universe. It will spend 500 billion years going through all the pictures of naked women looking for taylor swift, assuming something like a 100 a second.
>>54782782
Nice recursion but you forgot your base case.
>>54782791
but there are only a finite number of possible naked women
>>54782790
>>54782804
>>54782791
>>54782498
>>54781744
>>54781540
>>54781511
>>54781497
Same fagging hardcore
>>54782817
What if all existing women right now were to be generated that would already be 3 billion now imagine that in every possible position and ehatever they could possibly be in.(alot)
>>54782832
a lot of those women are going to look alike because of the very low res
>>54782846
But they are going to be different in the eye of the machine
And even if it was just taytay. She would have an almost infinite amount of positions.
Perhaps in the future there will be software which will model what a person would grow up to look like based on their DNA. Then you could just steal one of her hairs.
>>54781540
Enjoy still generating images long after the heat death of the Universe.
>>54782498
I sure hope that returns a generator and not a raw list
>>54780511
You can find each of those images encoded as π digits.
>>54782616
Depends on the parallelization ability of your resources. Since the library uses pthreads, then the computational bounding on the problem will come down to your hardware/clustering situation.
>>54782762
Yeah. As far as the comprehension thing goes, given a 400x400 image, if you limit the pixels to either black or white, every single image will net every single written work ever made or ever to be made in every language. Every book, every block of code, every meme, pretty much everything.
I was thinking about it for a while and then I came across this thought. If you knew where to look, you could even predict the future. Even my post would be one of the images.
>>54783023
No you can't, pi digits aren't proven to be completely random, fuckface
>>54783059
that's nice, how many billion processors do you have?
see you in a couple of millenia, /g/Bitmap GeneratePicture(int w, int h)
{
var bitmap = new Bitmap(w, h);
var r = new Random();
using (var g = Graphics.FromImage(bitmap))
{
for (int i = 0; i < w*h; i++)
{
var x = i/w;
var y = i%w;
var brush = new SolidBrush(Color.FromArgb(r.Next(255), r.Next(255), r.Next(255)));
g.FillRectangle(brush, x, y, 1, 1);
}
}
return bitmap;
}
Look here, idiots, even with a grayscale palette (256 colors) and a 4x4 image, you get insanely many combinations. Just check how big 256^16 already is. You fucks can't even begin to comprehend the amount of images there would be for the sizes that could output something recognizable. This "idea" is not even intellectually fun, it's just inane and retarded like the OPs who keep posting this shit.
>>54781405
256^(400x400)
it is
>>54783117
So what? It's not worth doing? Not doing it b/c hard/hopeless is no better a reason than doing it simply because its interesting.
Let the guy do it if he wants to, I was just pointing out how easily it could be parallelized.
>>54780547
By the power of odds
>>54780511
quit posting this fucking thread
>>54783539
>So what? It's not worth doing?
of course it's not worth doing, are you stupid?
>>54780511
>Will I be able to see taylor swift naked?
I remember you.
I work at Google. I can run program on quantum computer if someone write it.
>>54783113
Damn, you've got me.
>>54780511
Just trying to generate every combination of text required more GB of storage than there are atoms in the universe. Look up the library of babel. Pictures? Forget about it.
>>54780511
It also would also include a picture of your mom getting fucked by every single male on earth, every single imaginary pop culture figure, every set of tentacles.
>>54787425
It would suck.
>>54781025
> there is a closeup of the first sentence
As well as any other sentence, so you don't know if it's true.
just use photoshop or something faggot
>>54780511
OP reminds me of this:
http://pastebin.com/2qbRKh3R
Why does this thread keep appearing
>>54780511
There is a math equation that is something like this its not continuous and will actually spell out other math equations in its graph.
>tfw arrested for bruteforcing CP
>>54783136
>couple of millenia
And the rest.
>>54780511
>How many images will this generate?
400 * 400 * 256 * 256 * 256
2,684,354,560,000
If you looked at each image for 1/2 second, it would take you 42,531 years to look at every one of them.
Acksherly, I think my math is wrong. I think 400*400*256*256*256 is just the number of images to represent all 400*400 uniform filled shades of every 24 bpp color.
So yeah, yer fucked.
>>54788366
>400 * 400 * 256 * 256 * 256
Fucking idiot.
>>54780511
>>54783136
This thread reminds me of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4IgD46YYdY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FdLuytZXyc
>>54788380
>not reading the rest
>calling people fucking idiot
>fucking idiot
>>54788394
>hurr my math is wrong
>posts it anyway
Fucking idiot.
>>54780511
>Lets assume that it's possible to generate every possible 400x400 jpg in existence
Let's not.
(2^24)^(400*400) = 3840000
2^3840000 ≈ 10^115595.5
Number of particles in the universe ≈ 10^80.
>>54780607
Theoretically, you would also have a zoomed in version of every image. So for a 400x400 image, there will be one that is a zoomed in version of only the first 20x20 pixels of the original, does that make sense?
Yes but even if you had a way to enumerate all of the 400x400 images that are larger versions of a given 20x20 square, finding one that looks reasonable instead of like blocky artifacts or deep dream dogshit is going to take almost as long.
>>54788403
>still doesn't read the end
>continues to sperg "fucking idiot"
>fucking idiot
How many possible 10-second videos are there, assuming
>24-bit RGB
>1080*720 resolution
>30 FPS
>48000 Hz audio sampling rate
>16 bit audio
>no compression
why not just make one really big image that contains everything?
>>54788465
You do realize you can edit posts before you submit them, right?
>>54780704
>>54780714
go on, i'm curious what we'll see in 5 or 6 more steps
>>54783539
/g/ never disappointments
>>54788096
kek
>Write a program that generates a random JPEG image
>Then send it through facial recognition
>If something is recognized, the image is kept
Set this up on a server, install the server in your basement and come back in 10 years.
>>54788946
>come back in ten years
>thousands of images with faces
>They are all of you
>>54788485
kek
>>54783423
for gray-scale. *3 for color
>>54780511
>Will I be able to see every possible situation?
No. Despite what some people may think there are a lot of things in the universe that our minds can't even comprehend.
>Will I be able to see every possible human that has ever lived or will live?
It's possible, yet again our minds can only comprehend so much.
>Every piece of art that hasn't been made yet?
It's possible, yet again our minds can only comprehend so much.
>Will I be able to see taylor swift naked?
Possibly.
>How many images will this generate?
X>0
>>54791400
actually ^ 3
Lets say you only go for a 10 x 10 picture and only black or white pixels. that would be 2^100 possibilities ~ 1,26 * 10 ^ 30.. Now you let everybody of the world sit infront of a computer and check 1000 images per second for something interesting, that would take ~ 502.000.000 years
>>54781405
its only 1,797,693,134,862,315,907,729,305,190,789,024,733,617,976,978,942,306,572,734,300,811,577,326,758,055,009,631,327,084,773,224,075,360,211,201,138,798,713,933,576,587,897,688,144,166,224,928,474,306,394,741,243,777,678,934,248,654,852,763,022,196,012,460,941,194,530,829,520,850,057,688,381,506,823,424,628,814,739,131,105,408,272,371,633,505,106,845,862,982,399,472,459,384,797,163,048,353,563,296,242,241,372,160,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 images
>>54783101
And in the endless texts inside of your 400x400 images would also exist a message telling you to fuck yourself and that this is no better than generating endless 1x1 black or white images and compiling the resulting binary noise until you get a program that simulates down to the molecule a million monkeys with typewriters all writing 'go fuck yourself' in parallel.
>>54791544
It's 24.8e385317. Your number is approximately 0 in comparison. The number of atoms in the universe is approximately 0 in comparison. 24.8e385317 is to high for humans to comprehend.
>>54781292
Really interesting site, thanks for linking it
>>54788504
if you remove the size constraint it becomes infinity
>>54780511depth = 8
width = 400
height = 400
colors = (2^depth)^3
// = 16777216
pixels = width * height
// = 160000
combinations = pixels ^ colors
// = 1.3791902 * 10 ^ 87310645
>>54794857
>number of atoms in the observable universe = 4*10^79 to 4*10^81
>>54794857
>>54788485
>8 bit color depth
>400x400 resolution
>10 second video
>30 fpsdepth = 8
width = 400
height = 400
fps = 30
length = 10
colors = (2^depth)^3
// = 16777216
pixels = width * height
// = 160000
combinations_frame = pixels ^ colors
// = 1.3791902 * 10 ^ 87310645
frames = fps * length
// = 300
combinations_video = frames ^ combinations_frame
// = 300 ^ ( 160000 ^ 16777216 )
// = 300 ^ ( 1.3791902 * 10 ^ 87310645 )
// = overflow error
What if the images were in just black and white? Would cut down on how long a 8×8 would take
This is (256^3)^160000 pictures.
>>54781091
Photoshop is easier
Why not do bruteforce on them and filter them by reverse image search
>>54795339
there are 600^((3840*2160)^((2^10)^3)) = 10^(10^(10^9.870929703598891)) different 10s 60hz 3840x2160 10bit videos
>>54780511
There would also be a picture of a fat faggot shitposting on 4chan about random image generation (A.K.A you OP)
>>54796724
not just one
>>54796986
Well played
>>54782721
>>54782772
yeah okay go bitch about this in generals, those are fucking cancer supreme
>>54781540
Do you know how you can shuffle a deck of cards until the end of the universe and not see the same deck twice?
Well a deck of cards only has 52 cards it and...4 colors.
You'd never have the time to sort them
>>54781798
>https://babelia.libraryofbabel.info/
someone did it already. now lets search.
>>54780511
y borges?
>>54783136
>useing java
Of course its gonna take millenia!
>>54799833
That's C#.
>>54799850
>i'm a pompous moron
sure bud
>>54788946
10 years later it would probably have generated exactly ZERO faces.
You are just too stupid to realize the hugeness of the numbers we're talking about here.
Go shill some smartphone thread or something kid.
>>54792216
>>54791544
OP, if /g/ can't even reliably tell you how many combinations that is through some highschool math, how do you expect they being able to comprehend your question?
>>54799908
this, if you want CP you'll have to fuck them kiddies yourself.
