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Windows:
> Need to edit fucking text? Buy Office for only $99999,00/year
> Want to edit audio? Buy from third party companies!
> Need to edit a video? Well use Movie Maker or buy something else!
> Paid updates (inb4 windows 10 is free, it wont be soon)
OS X:
> iWork is free
> Garageband is free (pic related)
> iMovie is free
> Free OS updates for life
You do know that you can literally get better apps than the Apple ones for free? Just YouTube search, "How to get Adobe Photoshop CC for Free". If you can follow along, it should be quite easy!
I gotta say, Apple OS X native programs are pretty decent.
Except for safari.
>>54753170
>Apple's programs are actually free
>b-b-but I can pirate programs that cost money for free
Dumbass
Well, it better fucking be free given their computers are expensive monitors with $300 trash PCs
>>54753204
>Apple only makes iMacs
>>54753200
They're both close sourced software, and they cost you nothing. Quite literally the same outcome. You put in the work on Windows. Or you get it easy on a Mac because you spent an extra $500 on it because it's a darn Mac.
>>54753101
Need to edit fucking text? Open notepad or wordpad or download notepad++ or whatver you want
> Want to edit audio? Download things left and right for whatever fits your needs
> Need to edit a video? Download things left and right for whatever fits your needs
> Paid updates WU has never put up an update that cost more than $0.000000000000000001 ever.
OS X:
> iWork is free
> Garageband is free (pic related)
> iMovie is free
> Free OS updates for life
>Cool, then show me a nice place to order OS X for less than $80-120 which windows cost.
>>54753244
>this $20000 car is shit because you can steal a Ferrari for FREE
>>54753250
I like Windows too, but making Kappa arguments just makes you look dumb. Nothing you said means anything of value to anybody who can think. Sorry!
>>54753271
>The mental limit of an apple user makes him believe others are stupid because they don't think like he does.
You still haven't posted a site that sells OSX for less than $120.
>>54753101
EW Logic Pro
>not pro tools
>not ableton live
>not bitwig
>not reason 9
I'm gonna puke
>>54753310
You can obtain OS X in the App Store for free.
>>54753334
You're pushing the boundaries of retardation.
>>54753101
Edit Text: LibreOffice (Other free software available)
Edit Audio: Audacity (Other free software available)
Edit Video: Shortcut or Lightworks (Other free software available)
Paid Updates: (Like every three years, suck it up)
OS X: Free updates yes but your hardware will not be supported and cost an arm and a leg to buy. Your included editing software is shit anyway, and iWorks is trash.
>>54753360
Sure thing kiddo
>>54753310
>>54753334
>>54753360
You guys are some fucking pussies lol!
>>54753391
Shotcut I mean.
>>54753266
Wew lad when did you go off the deep end?
>>54753391
>LibreOffice
>Audacity
>Shortcut
>Lightworks
Funny how these are all fucking garbage lmao
>>54753391
> LibreOffice
That's trash.
Can download pirated and cracked stuff with ease and don't have to pay $1000 for the so called features
>>54753101
IT'S CALLED 'DOWNLOAD FREE SOFTWARE USING A TORRENT CLIENT'.
>*Mic drop
>minions.jpg
>>54753507
enjoy getting aids
>>54753250
>>Cool, then show me a nice place to order OS X for less than $80-120 which windows cost.
App Store. You can get a license for 0 dollars.
Finder is shit. It's my biggest complaint about OS X. How do you fuck up a file manager that bad?
>>54753539
Then post it so I can use that fre version to install on my non-apple hardware.
>>54753101
>Buy Office for only $99999,00/year
I didn't know office charged on an annual basis
>>54753200
>Dumbass
Not an argument
>>54753200
>>54753266
BTW, your analogues are shit and stretch reason until you can't apply them here.
AppleFags, lick my Cheeto dust. YOU PACK OF APPLES ARE GIVING ME FUCKING CANCER.
>>54753554
>Then post it
I don't think you understand how software licenses work.
>>54753541
I listen to this really often, but never seen the arguments.
>>54753554
> non-apple hardware
kek, what are you, poor?
>>54753266
But if I can steal and get away with it I would in fact go with the Ferrari any day?
Garageband is not studio grade software. Logic pro x is and costs money
>>54753101
oi vey! your shekels were deposited in your bank account.
>>54753326
audio engineer here: logic is fine
>>54753612
>Garageband is not studio grade software.
Neither is Windows Media Player or Sound Recorder, if Windows even comes with those these days.
>>54753647
Neither of those are for creating music
>>54753612
Yeah but still pretty great software, it's basically Logic Mini.
>>54753560
>>>54753101 (OP)
>>Buy Office for only $99999,00/year
>I didn't know office charged on an annual basis
Yup, it is the standard method now. Although it's not $99999,00/year. Welcome to the realm of ubiquitous subscriptions.
>>54753661
And they're still the best music software bundled with Windows.
>>54753634
I wish...
>>54753664
Im not saying its bad im just saying u wont see it in a recording studio
>>54753101
Nobody uses Windows because of the built in software, that's an Apple fanboy way of thinking that stems from their delusions that Apple makes good products, therefore you shouldn't look further than what Apple gave you.
For Windows there's a huuuge vast library of compatible programs you could run for absolutely anything you need.
>>54753677
Sound recorder isnt music software
>>54753593
Can't sort with folders always on top
Can't cut and paste
Can't create a new file with right click
Changing default settings nearly impossible
No snap to grid in icon view?
Incredibly difficult to get around folders outside of your home directory.
Many others I can't remember off the top of my head because the terminal is easier than using finder.
Maybe if you haven't used windows explorer or any Linux file manager finder might seem ok, but otherwise it's a crappy, unintuitive mess that you can't even replace because it's too integrated.
>>54753704
>Can't create a new file with right click
Make a service.
>Changing default settings nearly impossible
What?
>No snap to grid in icon view?
What?
>Incredibly difficult to get around folders outside of your home directory.
What?
>>54753334
But i cant get a Mac computer for free, which is required to run OSX
>>54753729
>>Can't create a new file with right click
>Make a service.
Dev here:
Want to code for Apple Store:
>code for iOS
>code for OS X
>code for Watch OS
>code for TV OS
>nothing is shared
Want to code for Windows Store:
>UWP
What was once good on Windows and shit with Apple, is now shit on Windows and good on Apple and vice versa.
It's a mad mad world.
>>54753170
Give it back, Jamal.
>>54753805
what are you, poor?
>>54753704
>Can't cut and paste
Cmd+C, Cmd+Opt+V
>>54754001
>what are you, poor?
No, but claiming OSX if free is false, since its required to own specific hardware in order for you to get it for free.
>>54754074
How do I install Windows on my MIPS hardware? Oh that's right, you need specific hardware to run that as well.
>>54753170
Or better yet use krita
https://krita.org/item/goodbye-photoshop-and-hello-krita-at-university-paris-8/
>>54753972
make me
>>54754116
>unironically recommending krita
>>54754102
this.
>>54753101
Apple is indeed doing great job, allowing their customers to get basic stuff like office package absolutely free of charge. MS are just being greedy fucks.
>>54753101
Or you can go to kat.cr and get everything for free lmao
>>54754214
I don't see The Spectacular Now starring Miles Teller, just the ebook
>>54754102
I never claimed Windows was free, or did not require specific hardware
>>54754557
Then what's your argument? Windows was just an example, every operating system requires specific hardware to run.
>>54754571
>every operating system requires specific hardware to run.
Not Linux :^)
>>54754631
Even Linux doesn't run on everything.
>>54753101
So Apple users are poor? Thanks for confirming.
microsoft can't offer good software built into windows because they get hit with antitrust lawsuits from other companies who claim that microsoft are forcing them out of the market
that's why you get wordpad instead of bundled word, why windows media player is shit, and why there were versions of windows 7 that came without several bits of software, or that weird browserchoices thing a few years back
funnily enough, it's the same deal with apple, which is why iwork, garageband and imovie have barely any features
' i deserve free things so i can make it big as a rapper ' -- OP
>>54754158
krita is a fucking excellent drawing program, but it's not comparable to photoshop, which is more image editing\manipulation.
photoshop's closest GNU competitor would be the gimp, whereas krita is more comparable to artrage
Logic Pro X Is one of the best DAWs.
>>54754102
His argument was that VERY specific hardware is required for OS X to run. While nearly every x86 computer can run Windows straight out of the box, you can't even INSTALL OS X on a normal computer without getting a "Hackintosh" which is only supported on very specific computers.
>>54754738
I fail to see the issue. Apple makes their OS for their hardware, why the fuck would they make their OS available to competitors?
>>54754722
that's not FL studio
>>54754765
You're a goddamned moron
>>54754765
FL Studio is good for MIDI, I'll give you that. For live audio no-one would ever take it seriously.
ITT: OS X babbies fighting winblows babbies
how cute
>>54753926
And yet tell all get more users/downloads in any of the app stores
UWP biggest failure since WP
>>54753101
Is that OS X's UI? I think I'll stick with Windows. thanks.
>>54753101
>literally toddler version of audacity with candy coated shiny icons and dedicated animated "profile picture" section to waste space in the UI for their toddler fanbase
lmao
>>54754214
including viruses right?
Translation: It's for poorfags that want to pretend they aren't.
GNU/Linux:
LibreOffice is free, if it's garbage you can modify it to not be garbage
Audacity is free, if it's garbage you can modify it to not be garbage
Kdenlive is free, if it's garbage you can modify it to not be garbage
>Can literally try to apply whatever to your OS
>>54753101
I laugh every time I use the prefix "i" used. What a stupid name lol
>>54755078
>None of us are coders
>None of us are coders
>None of us are coders
>That's true for anybody
>>54753805
>which is required to run OSX
Maybe in the US of A.
>>54753805
> huur wat is hackintosh duur
>>54753805
>I need hardware the software was made for to run the software
Wow dude, you must be a rocket scientist or something if you were able to figure that out
>>54755174
>have complete freedom of OS choice
>install mactoddler babby OS
Shit nigger, what are you doing?
>>54755199
> baby OS
> used by NASA
wew lad.
>>54755231
>used by PR dept to blog about the thinkpads on the ISS
wew lad
>>54755086
Close, titwank was the actual answer.
And then there's Linux...
>>54755412
OS X = *BSD = Linux > Windows
>>54753391
my macbook late 2008 still works fine with 10.11....
>>54756414
This, my 2008 iMac runs El Capitan beautifully
>>54756414
>>54756433
>os meme
well meme'd
>just pirate it
lmao
are winfags the niggers of the computing world?
>large populations
>primitive
>not very bright
>gibsmedat attitude
>>54753101
BACK TO >>>/lgbt/ FAGLORD
>>54756490
>le epik apple iz gay meme
>>54756502
>>le epik apple iznt gay meme
>>54756502
Fuck off back to >>>/lgbt/ you piece of shit.
>>54756552
Difference is yours is legitimately a silly meme.
>>54756566
no u
>>54754116
What the hell is this, it isn't even compatible with basic Photoshop shortcuts. Who thought it is a good idea not to make it compatible.
Thinking about getting a macbook. Do I necessarily need to create an apple id? Can I do stuff like browse the web without it?
>>54755078
>LibreOffice is free, if it's garbage you can modify it to not be garbage
Please modify it for me so that it doesn't crash with the most basic spreadsheets. It crashes even when I'm not doing anything and says bullshit like "Error $1" and just closes.
>>54753101
>GarageBand is free
Yeah, but would you ever listen to a full album made entirely in GarageBand?!
>but m-muh Grimes
Grimes is the one exception.
>>54753101
Windows:
> Need to edit fucking text? type notepad, type wordpad or get one of the myriad free tools that are more fully featured.
> Want to edit audio? audacity is free, old version of protools is also free
> Need to edit a video? Well use Movie Maker or buy something else! Yeah this is true. Why is this shit troubling you?
> Paid updates (inb4 windows 10 is free, it wont be soon), how is any of this relevant?
>OS X:
oh now i get it. yeah.
>>54753101
Hahaha
> want to edit a image
windows: paint.net
os x: nothing for <20 bucks
>>54757815
Paintbrush.
>>54753101
LibreOffice
Audacity
Got me there.
You have to pay for OSX the first time too
8/10, made me respond
>>54753101
This is such a Linux tier argument.
>Office Suite
Word is probably the best of the normie tier word processors, but if you are doing anything serious, use LaTeX.
Excel doesn't really have a competitor unfortunately.
iWork is no better than LibreOffice lmao. In some ways it is probably worse.
>Audio
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphex_Twin#Equipment
From this list, Apple has a slight edge (due to the fact that Logic Pro is OS X exclusive) the rest of the software Aphex Twin uses is cross-platform with Windows (and unfortunately Linux is lacking because nobody wants to port to it).
>Video editing
Again, iMovie is WMM tier.
You HAVE to buy something if you want good software for video editing. (Like Sony Vegas
>Free OS Updates
Apple is not necessarily going to continue on the OS X track forever, they will release OS XI eventually. Nonetheless, Linux wins here.
>>54758036
why do people pay for software when you can get cracked versions?
>>54758333
>morals
>legality
>wanting virus free software
>>54758407
m on linux, i cant get vireses
>>54758441
You've got no software to pirate either, commercial companies don't support your OS.
>>54756624
no
yes
>>54753704
>Can't sort with folders always on top
Actually finder offers retardedly many ways to sort stuff. Kind, date, size, time, and a vast array of other tags (because custom tagging in bakes into Finder).
>Can't cut and paste
Drag and drop. Seriously, they even created springloading to facilitate drag and drop everywhere in the system, between any apps, the dock, etc. . Finder is no exception, it supports drag and drop throughout.
But STILL if you want traditional "cut and paste", just hold alt when pasting. It even changes the menu item from "paste here" to "move here" to give you a hint. And works with the alt+cmd+v shortcut too.
>No snap to grid in icon view?
right click--> clean up
>Incredibly difficult to get around folders outside of your home directory.
Seriously now? There's a PERMANENT menu item in the menu bar, surprisingly named Go.
If the shortcuts there (including a dynamic list of recent folders) is not what you're looking for, just click "Go to Folder" and type the path, boom.
Or use the default shortcut, shift+cmd+G, a window pops up and you type the path, boom. Also works with hidden files and folders.
Want to connect to a file server? Cmd+K, window pops up, type the address, and done, it's mounted locally and seamlessly.
>Maybe if you haven't used windows explorer or any Linux file manager finder might seem ok
It doesn't even compare. Finder has tagging, multiple tabs, and most importantly, gesture support.
You navigate back and forth with 3-finger swipes, like in a web browser. You want to change the size of icons? You pinch to zoom like in a browser.
Also, it supports so many sensible shortcuts out of the box, it's not even funny.
All that, but especially the gesture support in combination with expose (brings up all open windows of the app) makes working in anything else a torture.
The only reason I can think someone would hate finder, is if they tried to use it like Explorer or dolphin or shit, which seems to be the case with you
>>54753805
>But i cant get a Mac computer for free
Why, can you get an IBM-compatible for free?
>>54759914
>gestureshit
>literally a crutch for retards who forget their mouse and are forced to use applel's no button crippled trackshit
Appletardism, not even once.
>>54759942
You actually could back around 99.
It required a 2 year 56k contract, and came preinstalled with a literal metric ton of adware shit, but you were going to pay that much anyway and could easily just reinstall Windows 98.
>>54759944
>gestures
>crutch
top kek
>>54759944
>GUIshit
>literally a crutch for retards who forget their keyboard and are forced to use Xerox's pretty button crippled mouseshit
>>54759944
>I'm so cool for using a mouse, like a real man
>I'm so cool for using a cli, like a real man
tryhard plz go and stay go
>>54753101
But windows comes with notepad which is compatible with office formats.
Why not Linux then anon? Everything is free on Linux if you want to be an os poorfag.
>>54760017
>buy $2 mouse from staples
>You now have a superior experience than millions of apple retards not being productive at starbucks.
Welcome to the world of non-aspiring musicians, writers and liberal arts majors parading their fashion accessories disguised as useful productivity machines.
Have fun not browsing facebook but accomplishing tasks that generate economic activity for someone other than Apple and Starbucks.
>>54760082
>I'm so cool for not being unemployed
ftfy
>>54760082
>using a mouse is not cool!
>Except our $100 officially sanctioned mouse
.t Apple i.e. the inventor of mice
>>54760095
Why would I have an inderior input device that can handle 1-click input at a time and is no more advanced than it was 20 years ago?
Mice don't stand a chance next to well done multitouch trackpads, there's a reason no professionals (illustrators, etc.) ever use mice.
Now, that for the first time ever, high quality, multitouch trackpads are affordable, you bitch about mice?
I'm sure it's great to be '90's kid, right? Go post on facebook retard.
>>54760095
I don't even know where my mice are because I've been using a Magic Trackpad for the last few years. Truly a superior way to control a cursor.
>>54760154
>why would you have an inferior input device
.t retarded dumbcunt fucktard who thinks gestures are faster than clicking in one sport
>professional illustrators don't use mice
They do, they also have tablets and specifically built hardware for their task and don't use trackpads because they're literally tash.
>high quality multitouch trackpads are affordable
You can dress up a bicycle with as many bells and whistles as you want it's still better to have a car.
>>54760154
>Mice don't stand a chance against well done multitouch trackpads
Except a $2 mouse is still infinitely better than a trackpad.
>>54760220
Than a shitty trackpad, I definitely agree. A good one, like Apple's, the best of mice can't compare.
>>54760234
>the best of mice can't compare
lol no,
>>54753101
Those apple programs are shit though and anyone with a basic understanding of either computers or music/film editing can tell you that.
>>54760234
>trackshit
>good
>this is what brain dead mactards actually believe
topkek
>>54760234
>a shitty crutch meant as an emergency use only alternative to a mouse
>better than mice
Appletardism, not even once.
>>54760248
>>54760253
Enjoy your inferior input devices.
>>54760234
>People complain about having carpal tunnel syndrome from literally using one button on an ergonomic mouse
>Thinking that anyone who actually works long hours on a computer is going to prefer a shitty trackpad that literally forces you to do retarded finger painting on a flat surface for hours is superior.
Again some people actually do work on computers and not finger paint for a job.
>>54760277
>Enjoy your inferior input devices.
But I don't own any crippled macshit.
>>54760277
If you actually had to do a fucking day of real work in your life you know how fucking draining a day with a trackpad is in your life? People are already complaining about RSI using a mouse for too long, using a fucking trackpad is even worse considering how much more effort you have to expend to get the simplest shit done.
>>54760280
>>54760266
I agree there are certain tasks a mouse is better for such as CAD, but these are niche uses that most people don't do. In general, the trackpad obliterates the mouse.
>technology board
>doesn't know how to use an OS they say is for babbies
>they don't know OS X can be as babby or pro as you want it to be.
This is barely a technology board.
>>54760310
You use a mouse, right? Enjoy the inferior device.
>>54760315
Sure thing kiddo
>>54760280
Most people use touchscreens nowadays anyways
>>54753101
I have an iMac laying around at home, I mainly use it for office work but that's about it, the family also uses to browse but I don't do anything with in particular outside of work.
>>54760317
>In general
Basically the trackpad is for people who don't actually do any work so they gesture and finger a flat surface at their leisure.
Have fun browsing through a 300 page spreadsheet without a mouse.
>>54760333
Says the babby retard who has never had to use a computer intensively for work for more than 5 hours sittings
>>54760317
>>In general, the trackpad obliterates the mouse.
>this is what iToddlers actually believe since 99% of their usage is scrolling up and down facebook with their toddler gestures shit
>>54760339
>most people use touchscreens nowadays anyways
>touchscreen
>Productivity
pick one
>>54760364
>Have fun browsing through a 300 page spreadsheet without a mouse.
I honestly would have no issues, I'd be upset if I had to use a mouse for such a task.
>Says the babby retard who has never had to use a computer intensively for work for more than 5 hours sittings
Nice projection
>>54760372
>I can't comprehend gestures usefulness so I'll just call it childish
epik
>>54760415
>I'd honestly have no issues
MMMM DADDY APPLE PLEASE GIVE ME MORE DELICIOUS CUM
Please leave, this is a technology board not a fashion accessory shilling board.
>>54760415
>>I can't comprehend mouse usefulness so I'll just call it dum
epik
>>54756697
Grimes made her music in Garageband? I had no idea.
>>54754658
There's Linux powered crock pots. I think Linux runs on more than enough hardware.
>>54760452
>Please leave, this is a technology board
And we're discussing technology you goddamned moron.
>>54760456
I used a mouse for 90+% of my life at the computer, I think I understand how one works.
>>54760477
>more than enough is everything
That's not how that works.
>>54753101
>> iWork is free
>> Garageband is free (pic related)
>> iMovie is free
None of these are free.
>>54760494
>macshit
>crippled dumbed down toddler toys for technophobic retards
>technology
>>54753101
only fags like pic related use garage band
>>54760546
epik memes anon
>>54753101
Garageband is $5
iWork is $10
iMovie is $5
OSX is "free" only if you own a supported apple computer.
>>54760494
>I used a mouse for 90% of my life but I've never had a job that requires repetitive and quick mouse actions.
>I like licking apple asshole because I spent $150 on a useless device and have to post purchase rationalize.
>>54760568
>apel
epik meme anon
>>54760585
>you need the hardware said software was made for to use the software
No fucking way!
>>54760597
It was like $40, that's pocket change. If I didn't like it I wouldn't be using it
>>54760612
Apple's not a meme, your shitty posts are.
>>54760637
>Apple's not a meme
>>54760637
>hardware is basically an underpowered PC gimped with a custom firmware
lel
I've owned a Macbook albeit at a reduced price as a student and still don't get this argument.
You don't get all this Apple shit free, Apple goods are $500-1000 more expensive than equivalent laptops/PC with the EXACT SAME PARTS.
Sure you could make a Hackintosh or get a used beaten up 2012 Retina Pro but the mark up is still higher than an equivalent 2012 laptop/PC. I'd rather have the spare cash and get real equipment (mixing deck/good condenser microphone/instruments) and torrent the software. I torrented software on Mac even with the free software because it was a toy at best.
Macs may have had a function once but now it's just a designer item mark-up for the same parts crammed into every other computer.
>>54753101
>need to play video games? buy a new computer :^]
>>54760653
>Apple's a meme
ebin
>>54760659
>lol their hardware sux guise
>>54760670
I play games on OS X. For the last decade you've also been able to install Windows if you need muh gaymes
>>54760637
>Apple is not a meme
>It was ONLY $40!
>$2 chinese staples mouse shits on it
>NO IT CAN'T BE TRUE I SPENT MONEY BAWWWWWWW
>Rest your palm on a device that glides around
>hovering tour fingers doing pretend fingerpainting is better
Shills please leave
>all these zealouts from both sides
>installed a hackintosh with El Capitan
>comfortable web surfing OS
>file manager sucks
>no cut and paste
>hardware (nvidia GPU) performs slower than on linux or windows
>everything that has to do with unix is completely hidden by default
>basically feels like a polished, proprietary linux distro
OSX isn't even a bad OS, but apple hardware just completely sucks for anything except facebook machines.
>>54760666
>Apple goods are $500-1000 more expensive than equivalent laptops/PC with the EXACT SAME PARTS.
The only thing they overcharge for is upgrades. There's more to apllel than processor/ram/ssd
>>54760682
>any mouse
>shitting on a Magic Trackpad
>>54760702
Magic®
>>54760722
Reply®
>>54760702
>any mouse shits on any trackpad
This is objective fact though.
>>54760753
*subjective
>>54760700
What are you paying extra for? The creaky aluminium shell? The Apple logo on the back? The approval of shallow girls? The locked down meme OS? The only thing I can think of is retina displays but now Koreans and Chink goods are popping up with better or equivalent displays for next to nothing.
I don't get it. If Apple is more than the parts why is it possible to just install OS X on a bunch of computers with the same parts? Even Apple can't tell the difference.
>>54760780
>The locked down meme OS
Confimred for being 100% clueless
>>54760702
http://www.apple.com/au/shop/question/answers/readonly/whatt-about-ergonomics/QD2CPKK2TD4P2D9JT
Daily reminder that trackpads are leisure devices not productivity ones.
At least I don't look like a gay hipster with a shiny white notebook for little girls.
Running around with a macbook is like wearing a pink little skirt. Whenever I see people with Macbooks I can't take them seriously.
>>54760776
Objective*
>>54760806
I've already stated there are certain things that a mouse is better for, but for casual computer use (like your shitposting) it is definitely superior.
>>54760817
*subjective
>>54753704
Can't cut and paste
Are you retarded? you can literally drag and drop almost any file/folder anywhere on OSX...not to mention cmd+c and cmd+v. Why the fuck would you ever create a file with right click? Always default to a text file? WHY?
>>54760776
>I've used a Trackpad now for about 7 weeks and have developed debilitating pain in my shoulder and down my deltoid and brachialis muscles, and along the tendons in my forearm, affecting me in all activities of daily living. I'm now using the Trackpad with my left hand, whilst I consider getting a mouse. (I have used an ordinary mouse for many, many years with no problems.) I think it's because with the Trackpad your whole arm remains motionless but rigid and tense. Also the pressure required to 'click' the Trackpad becomes progressively greater as you move up the pad: at the low, front edge it is a light press, but because one is constantly making gestures, the fingers generally end up being nearer the top of the pad, where the pressure required to click is much greater. As you click you can feel tendon movement occurring deep inside your shoulder joint. Perhaps it is this clicking that has caused my injury.
>superior to mouse
kek
>>54760794
Again I've used OS X as my daily driver and yeah it's pretty to look at but what does it offer over Windows or a decent Linux distro for the extra cash? Inb4 security when most of us here do fine on Common Sense 2016 and Malwarebytes. I see no reason to use OS X over other OS If I have to pay much much more to use it
Good job not refuting my other points.
>>54760824
>casual computer use it's superior
objectively and subjectively worse
Worse ergonomics, worse speed, worse productivity.
but finger painting on a shiny aluminum device is so cooool!
>>54760824
>I use an iMAC about 8 hours a day, 7 days a week. I've started developing pain in my fingers over the last month. I believe that there are many factors that could be at fault here but one especially is the excessive use of finger movement with the trackpad compared to a mouse.
>>54760827
Sounds like he's doing it wrong
>>54760836
It's an OS with the best UI, commercial application support, and can run most Linux applications. Between Linux and Windows it's the best of both worlds.
>>54760841
Factually better.
>Worse ergonomics
I've heard quite a few people talking about the trackpad helping with their RSI
>worse speed
No, you just suck
>worse productivity
Entirely dependent on the task at hand.
>>54760824
>I've been using the Magic Trackpad for 3 weeks and I'm going to change it to the Magic Mouse. I developed a wrist pain because I can't rest my right hand on the trackpad like a mouse, so when I'm browsing I have to keep my fingers up. In two hours using it, my wrist got tired and I'd to stopped. Also, you don't have the same accuracy and velocity as the mouse has, and the size could be a problem with you work in small desks.
>>54760856
Sounds like he's doing it wrong
>Need to edit fucking text? Libreoffice and Gedit for free!
>Want to edit audio? Audacity for fucking free!
>Need to edit a movie? KdenLive! For Fucking nothing!
>Free updates for life!
Such is the life of /freedom/
>>54760868
>everyone who doesn't agree with me is wrong
No, anon you're just retarded.
You morons can post all the bullshit stories you want, the trackpad is still the best device.
>>54753554
OS X is actually dirt cheap. You can buy it for like $20 USD or something. The (overpriced) hardware is where the cost comes from.
>>54753101
Windows
>Office $80/year or just use Google docs
>Audacity existed
>Lightwork existed
>Windows license $80-$120 why upgrade anyway
>Can run on any machine
OS X
>Yes
>Yes
>Yes
>Yes(?)
>Must buy a Mac first $1000++
>Kek your poor XD
In a thread comparing what you can get for free.
>>54760877
maybe you should stop posting because it's obvious you don't actually do any intensive computing
>>54760908
no u
>>54760908
> intensive computing
WEW
>>54760877
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4210225?tstart=0
http://softwareprototyping.net/is-your-apple-magic-trackpad-giving-you-rsi/
No, this is a well documented problem.
>>54760868
You sound just like Steve Jobs in the "you're just holding it wrong" era, I estimate you can't be over 25 years old since you haven't yet learned to consider other people's opinions other than your own.
>>54760931
Sure thing bud
>>54760945
know how to be considerate, I also know how much fun it is to get under your skin.
>>54760917
>>54760930
http://softwareprototyping.net/is-your-apple-magic-trackpad-giving-you-rsi/
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4210225?tstart=0
This is a well documented issue and closing your ears and stamping like good little apple children isn't going to stop making it real.
>>54760979
Pretty sure they're just doing it wrong
>>54760979
> Good apple child
> Implying implications
>>54761001
Nah I think you're just plain wrong.
Apple's stuff looks cool but they're keyboard and trackpad are literally RSI lawsuits waiting to happen
>>54761013
Yet they're still better than using mice.
>>54760965
>Applefags have no rebuttals to well-reasoned arguments against Apple products
>better to act retarded and ignore everything until the opponent gives up
I'm off back to /csg/, fuck talking to the rest of /g/.
>>54761013
If Mac track pads are so bad, what makes others any better?
>>54761011
>I'm going to post meme reaction tumblr images because I'm wrong lol
Never change millennial apple drones
>>54761050
Mice are better. Ergonomic mice are better, Trackballs are even better.
>>54761039
If you haven't realized by now I'm just having fun pissing you guys off then there's no hope for you.
>>54761034
People who say trackpads are better than mice tend to also fall in the same group as those who use gamepads to play first person shooters. Total idiots who can't spend a day getting good with a superior method.
>>54761052
> apple drone
Oh man, you must feel embarrassed.
>>54761064
> Completely ignoring the question
>>54761068
>I was just trolling all along
>>54761084
>samshit
You're equally as retarded.
>>54761084
>posts from a phone instead of a computer
Yeah you sure showed us computer using folk about how to use computers correctly.
>>54761068
>anons try to calmly discuss apple products with you
>lel time to piss everyone off
>>54761076
I spent all my life using a mouse, what's so difficult to comprehend about me finding the trackpad better?
>>54761094
Partial trolling. I legitimately find the trackpad to be superior, but my arguments are obviously complete shit. I mean fuck I've said you're doing it wrong like five times.
>>54761095
Lol, wrong again. This must be an off night for you, anon.
>>54761090
>what makes other trackpads better
The whole argument is that Mice are better than trackpads no exceptions. You're in the wrong thread.
>>54761108
It's not like I do this day after day thread after thread, I just got bored.
>>54761111
>legitimately find the trackpad to be superior
That's because you're legitimately retarded.
>>54761103
What are you even taking about?
>>54761123
The post I quoted said that specifically Mac trackpads are lawsuits waiting to happen
>>54761134
>preferences aren't a thing, no trust me I'm right
Stay mad mousefag
>>54761148
Mac trackpads are RSI e.g. workplace related injury lawsuits waiting to happen, you stupid retarded dumbfuck. Nobody said anything about suing apple.
>>54761152
>preferences aren't a thing
Nobody but brainwashed appleshit cocksuckers think this
im surprised this thread has responses
>>54761111
Show us anybody with any skill playing any competitive shooter or RTS with a trackpad.
Show us any professional editor or producer who uses a trackpad for precise work.
The only people who use trackpads are casuals and that's because they use their $1500 Macs as Facebook machines. No amount of gimmicky gestures can replace the precision and customisation of a good mouse. Even the clit on Thinkpads is more useful since you don't need to move your hands off the keys to move the cursor. That's why NASA use them on the ISS and not overpriced Apple toys.
>>54761161
OK, thanks for restating your stance angrily.
What makes any other trackpad better?
>>54754686
>microsoft can't offer good software built into windows because they get hit with antitrust lawsuits from other companies who claim that microsoft are forcing them out of the market
>that's why you get wordpad instead of bundled word, why windows media player is shit, and why there were versions of windows 7 that came without several bits of software, or that weird browserchoices thing a few years back
>funnily enough, it's the same deal with apple, which is why iwork, garageband and imovie have barely any features
Google is getting this treatment in the EU now. Good 'ole EU. Looking to make everyone equally shit.
Also, Apple has not suffered from antitrust stuff nearly as much as Microsoft or Google.
>>54761184
>trackpad
TRACKPADS ARE TERRIBLE FOR WORK AND ANY EMPLOYER THAT FORCES IT ON YOU IS BASICALLY GIVING YOU CARPAL TUNNEL FOR FREE FUCKTARD. GET A FUCKING MOUSE OR TRACKBALL. RSI IS WORKPLACE RELATED LAWSUITS FOR THE EMPLOYER.
>>54753101
bet ur music sounds like shit.
garageband is p cool, tho. the track limit ruins it for me, mostly.
>>54761171
This anon >>54761134 is apparently a brainwashed appleshit cocksucker then
>>54761181
>Show us anybody with any skill playing any competitive shooter or RTS with a trackpad.
Show me where I said a trackpad was good for gaymen
>Show us any professional editor or producer who uses a trackpad for precise work.
I can show you where I said they're not >>54760317
>le epik Facebook machine meme
Nice argument
>>54753170
>using pirated software
Do you even pretend to care about security?
>>54753190
Safari is pretty decent, in 10.11 it's not really missing any modern features. I kind of wish they'd backport them to 10.9, but I know they never will.
This thread is still alive, holy fuck.
/g/ is a bonafide trashcan.
>>54761205
Oh, I get it. You're a troll. You're just lampooning me, aren't you?
Surely, you have reading comprehension, but are willfully ignoring the question.
>>54753391
>Free updates yes but your hardware will not be supported
My mom's 7 year old fucking MacBook with a Core 2 Duo is supported in El Capitan and runs just as crappy as everything else with 10.11.
>>54761246
> 7 yr old Mac
Anon's mom is a poorfag
>>54761228
>Safari is pretty decent
Except for the part where it sucks ass
>>54761246
My iMac with Core2 Duo runs El Capitan beautifully
>>54761235
>lampooning you
>he doesn't even understand the difference between workplace lawsuits and suing apple
>basically a retard who has never worked a day in his life
>>54761277
> Implying implications
> Citation needed
>>54761264
She doesn't do anything with it and they don't make the 17" anymore. What's the point of upgrading?
>>54761272
I reduced transparency and that helped, but it didn't solve the issue completely. I really don't know what they did, but even on my 2013 rMBP, 10.11 is not as smooth as 10.9 and kills my battery life.
>>54761277
So if I get my boss to buy me a MacBook for work, I can sure for wrongful death? Can I hire you as my legal counsel?? What is your going rate? One Million Dicks delivered directly to your mouth and anus?
>>54761347
I can't comment on battery life as my newest Apple laptop maxes at 10.5 but I can definitely say 10.11 runs better than 10.9 did on my iMac
>>54761376
No, you can sue if 10 years down the line you get RSI while working without a mouse like a little retard, but then you'd probably lose 90% of all sensation in your fingers.
>he doesn't know about carpal tunnel lawsuits linked to computer use in the workplace because he's never actually worked before.
>>54761376
http://www.workerslaw.com/workers-compensation-lawyers-nyc/repetitive-stress-injuries-lawyers-ny/
>there are retards in this world that doesn't know about workers compensation cases linked to RSI
>>54761412
>>54761425
Cool, so it doesn't have anything to do with Apple or Macs or OSX. Thanks for proving my point.
>>54761376
http://articles.latimes.com/1995-02-28/business/fi-36989_1_law-firm
>RSI IS NOT AN ISSUE REEEEEE
kek
>>54761456
>doesn't have anything to do with Apple or Macs or OSX
It has everything to do with it. If you have a retarded employer who forces you to use an expensive shiny trackpad instead of a mouse he's literally opening himself up to RSI lawsuits in the future. Fortunately most employers aren't retarded so you're quite safe.
Unless you're dumb enough to self inflict RSI on yourself like you.
>>54761486
>It has everything to do with it.
Citation needed
>>54761272
>Except for the part where it sucks ass
How does it suck ass?
>>54761486
>>>54761456 (You)
>Unless you're dumb enough to self inflict RSI on yourself like you.
Implying implications
>>54761397
>>54761347
Also it's worth noting that as the OS X versions have progressed my browser ran better and better. I don't know what they changed to make such a thing happen but it runs better on 10.11 than on 10.10, and on 10.10 it runs better than on 10.9.
>>54753101
OSX = Unix based
Wincuck = not
gg wincucks
