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Intel is truly FINISHED AND BACKRUPT
http://techfrag.com/2016/05/24/amd-zen-summit-ridge-twice-fast-fx-8350-par-intel-i7-5960x-extreme/
BTFO
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Coming never to a store on earth
I'll believe it when I see it, which is going to be never.
The only thing I'm looking forward to are the excuses.
So it has slower single core speed than a 4690K?
Really amazing for sure.
There's no way benchmarks will even come close to being that fast. it would take at least 10 years to double current CPUs.
Zen will be like all amd offerings 80% of Intel's low end CPUs.
>>54734638
Problem is, amd has half the ipc of Intel right now. If they truly match Intel ipc and offer as many cores as before then it truly can be twice as fast
>8 cores
>64 PCIe lanes
>USB 3.1
>NVMe
>$300
It's over lads.
>>54734665
Where did you find that msrp? Your imagination?
>>54734617
Who cares, zen isn't exciting because of it being super fast. Zen is exciting because it has the speed of a broadwell processor, 8 cores, nvme, usb 3.1 etc all at the attractive price point of $300. Good luck trying to get a processor like that from intel at $300.
>>54734703
Same place as he finds tomorrow's street deposits.
>>54734713
Again, where are you getting the price? Just wishful thinking?
>>54734727
They confirmed the processor lineups. Here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11764403
>>54734768
No price on that article. Just some faggot posting $300 in the comments.
>>54734838
you're done, intel cuck!
>>54734768
No msrp listed, just amdrones shouting into their echo chamber.
AMD has no reason to undercut Intel that much. If Intel is charging 1k for 8 cores, AMD can still undercut them by 20% and still have a good value at @$800.
>>54734885
Except AMD has released 8 core processors at $400 before, so $300 is very possible.
>>54734885
>no reason to undercut Intel that much
intel is getting rekt, fagboy!
>>54734916
>AMD has released 8 core processors
anon...
>>54734931
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284
>>54734970
>4 x 2MB L2 Cache
>4
that should be your hint
>>54734970
>8 half cores
>>54734916
They priced it so aggressively because a 4 core Intel is equal to 8 core AMD. Giving them away. Now they *might* have a competitive product, they won't be priced so bargain basement prices. They are in the red financially, and need cash.
I have a FX 8350, wait for zen? or get a 6600k and motherboard and ram equivalent?
>>54735031
are you fucking stupid?
>>54734590
2017
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1
7
>>54735031
6600k owner here. I would say wait. Your CPU is fine for another few months, kaby lake is around the corner, along with Zen.
>>54735038
thats not really an answer?
>>54734590
investors love relative graphs
>>54734617
Ghz mean nothing they are just a marketing scheme there are instruction kits that have a much slower tick tock but perform more effectively than others with more speed.
>>54735050
>I am fucking stupid
ok then
>>54734970
>4 half cores + 4 half cores
Top kek even worse than 3.5GB + 0.5GB.
>>54735062
still not an answer.
>>54735066
>worse than 3.5GB + 0.5GB
not really; found the nvidiot tho
>>54734713
>>54734768
>>54734838
as much as love AMD but 300$ for an octacore with ht that can battle with intel is pure wishfull thinking, it would hurt amd to not take the same money as intel and only undercut them for a few dollars. I don´t know what kids would think that 300$ is economical for such a company, learn business 101 pls
I just want AMD to release a 4 core budget CPU with G3850's single thread performance.
Zen-based Athlon x4 when?
>>54735076
but you just confirmed you're too stupid to understand the answer
>>54735076
>>54735082
AMD doesn't need 100%+ margins on their HEDT line you stupid twat, it doesn't even need 60% like Intel does on its mainstream one either.
A good chip won't sell, it needs to undercut too.
>>54735082
>as much as
>but
fuck off, intel shill
>>54735082
Maybe, maybe not. There are about a million variables we don't have access to for us to draw, even a speculative assumption
>>54735091
still not an answer, are you retarded enough to not understand how to answer somebody with an actually answer instead of another question?
>>54735135
you retarded m8?
>>54735148
dont bully him
wait til Zen, the FX8350 is absolutely fine for another few months(if not years, cpu tech has done absolute fuck all since)
>>54735207
>dont bully
why the fuck not? because of his mental illness? I don't discriminate and neither should you; you should be ashamed of yourself
>>54735207
The 8350 is fine if you currently own one. It's not a bad processor.
It's just old and wasn't fantastic when new.
>>54735234
Because maybe hes a cute boy, and we can share nudes and fall in love in return for my white knighting
>>54735277
I'll allow it then
>>54735107
like said tard, they max gonna undercut intel for a few dollars but they not gonna trow away they chips like they did in the past with the 8350.
They NEED to make money they are deep in the reds....
>>54735114
its not a maybe its a matter of survival for amd they are all in on Zen, if Zen doesn´t bring in a really good amount of money they can max survive for another 2-3 years, befor they have to sell ATI, they don´t have any assets left worth to sell.
They can´t sell x64 licence.... Everybody even remotly involved in financial sector should know this.
I love AMD, but they have to take more money or they die. and I am happy to pay more.
Fuck I even bought amd shares, lucky me AMD shares are at 4,20 atm so im pretty good, my finger itches to sell because I already make about 250% profit but they gonna raise more for sure in the next few months
>>54734590
I hope they will be in new macs. I dont want to use modified kernels for my future zen hackintosh
>>54735362
>I love AMD
>but
intel shill confirmed
>>54735461
man some of you guys are retarded....welp someday you grow up or not don´t care
>>54734713
8 cores with AMDs own flavor of hyperthread. The equivalent Intel offering costs $1000 pre-tax. This is ground-fucking-breaking stuff.
>>54734617
Are you stupid? This isn't for your gayman shit. Besides that it's competing against Intel's E line which have low clockspeeds to begin with (to minimize temps etc).
>>54735582
you a right and wrong, 1000$ on release now they cost much much less
>>54735582
>Are you stupid? This isn't for your gayman shit.
So?
It doesn't matter its still slower.
>>54735615
Well skylake-E will be released soon enough and it'll have that exact pricetag. Probably lower now that Zen is imminent though, which is a good thing for everybody.
>>54735630
So are intel's E processors. You know what kid just find another thread to shit up ok?
>>54735661
Alright, but don't get amd buffon ;)
Are any of you actually going to buy Zen and what are you using now?
>>54735679
Sadly I got a 6700k two months ago because zen was too far away. Friends wants to build a high-end system for rendering in a couple of months and I'm definitely going to go zen. I'll be switching to zen about this time next year.
>>54735679
i7-4960X, going to be upgrading to Zen
>>54735679
Intel Xeon E5-2699 v3. Will be buying zen on release to replace this shit
Someone needs to update this image then.
>>54735779
What are you using the Xeon E5-2699 v3 for?
>>54735679
Intel Q6600 to Zen. Full poorfag mode.
>>54735794
>.exe
>>54735823
gaymen
>>54735829
You could replace the Q6600 with a Xeon that performs at i5 speeds for about $20 to tide you over.
>>54735878
I just want this system to die so I have an excuse to buy a new one. 8 years I survived on this machine.
>>54735823
That is a lot of cores for gaming, I thought were rendering or something.
Should I get Zen for gaymen? What about later on in laptops too? I will upgrade both at some point, but I'm not in an actual hurry.
>>54735679
I have a Phenom II X2 550 and I don't know if I can wait any longer.
>>54736110
the only true answer: nobody knows
On the price not: we will see what amd going to do with polaris soon. They are in same position with GPU as with CPU marketing wise.
If they undercut Nvidia hard with prices around 250, zen going to be cheap if not then not.
>>54735794
>>54735642
>Well skylake-E will be released soon enough
No it won't, probably Q3 or 4 2017.
Just how much progress do you delusional fucks think AMD can make? Zen is going to be another mediocre half-core chip with ivy bridge single thread performance. Guarantee it won't compete with Broadwell-E 6 core for the same $400 they will charge for Zen.
>>54736189
>>54735679
>i72600
No idea, I really want it to be good and cheap enough. If it goes for $400 8-core Haswell perf.(=~skylake, and i'm pretty sure kabylake is a dud like consumer broadwell was).
I really do not want to buy another quadcore.
What are the chances that Intel had developed a brand new architecture years ago and have been sitting on it waiting for AMD to finally catch up to them?
>>54736305
zero
>>54736305
Over zero
>>54736319
Well they've been incrementally improving on the Core architecture for a very long time, over 10 years.
And they are 10 times bigger than AMD if not more.
>>54736305
That would be a waste of money, they do have however developed the most advanced 14nm process and they have already released more than one CPU gen using it, so they should have iron out all the issues and started working on efficiency which is where they are ahead of AMD by two years or so.
>tfw 6350 and waiting for zen
I don't want to give those filthy jews my money but this thing sucks even overclocked
>>54735679
Rockin' a Phenom II X6 1045. I might if there's a significant advantage.
>>54736305
99.999%
Intel's main focus has been developing a way to release chips approximately 10% to 15% better than the last, the art is to increase performance just enough so people will buy it but not so much that they miss another opportunity to sell the same architecture.
>>54736328
but under 0.1%
Amd stock goin strong this few day
>>54736298
>mfw I bought it with the intention of unlocking it and it didn't work
;_;
>>54736487
I would love to have that chip, I have a 3770k and it can't handle multitasking and VM's very well.
>>54736473
investor meeting was nice probably
>>54735059
>there are instruction kits that have a much slower tick tock
black_man_with_question_marks.jpg
>>54736381
Yes, they have secret alien tech. If released to the public, it would bankrupt amd, revolutionise the industry, and send stock to unprecedented levels. They don't release it because they really don't need everyone going out and buying new computers.
Dail reminder that no matter how good a chip AMD put out they will never get more than 0.01% of the market thanks to intel market dominance and oem strangulation
>2 slides from investor presentation
>No mention of comparison to Intel
>Cinebench comparison to 2 generations older AMD hardware
Yeah, Intel sure is finished.
So do we know the price or is it all out of some dumbass's crack?
>>54735731
Will there even be a Zen processor that is much better than that released? Probably not worth it senpai, best be trolling.
>>54736581
Consumers can't make an intelligent decision after all. Intel is literally forcing people at gunpoint to buy their products.
>>54736602
I think everyone was expecting the high-end to be competitively priced with Intel's unlocked i5.
>>54736578
Intel could have released sandy bridge i3s, i5s and I7s with more cores and higher IPCs but why would they, the software isn't ready for the extra cores, the only competition couldn't compete and If they stayed on a 6 month release schedule all the serious video renderers would have to upgrade. Why would they release something good at the expense of sales?
>>54735082
>i'm retarded
zen is their only hope. If they fuck it up, no more amd cpus. They will be out of the game, for good. You think they're thinking about getting rich when they're on the brink of death?
AMD will have to pull something amazing with zen. Expect amazing performance/$ from them.
>>54734590
>Intel is truly FINISHED AND BACKRUPT
Again? Next week it will be AMD. Week after that, Intel again. Yawn.
>>54736666
Sure thing Satanm you would know
>>54736653
How can software be ready If there is nothing to design for?
>>54736715
They could start with the quads and maybe work their way up, this is not brain surgery.
>>54736666
>AMD
>ever being out of the game
They would get bought or propped up for anti-monopoly purposes.
>>54736653
>50 percent IPC gain over their previous generation
>No completion guys
Kill yourself
>>54735031
Wait for it.
>>54736733
Well if they would be giveth quatro core they could of already be using it at full.
This really isn't rocket surgery
>>54736666
>I have no idea how business works here look at me spewing bullshit
>>54736748
>50 percent IPC gain
[citation needed]
>>54735679
g860. fucking kill me already.
I'd rather get zen with a nice motherboard than get a s1151 and throw it in the garbage 2 years from now because alienlake will need a new motherboard.
am4 is more future proof desu
>>54736777
kek. I'm so fucking sorry for you, you'd need at least half a brain to grasp amd's situation. Too bad you're busy being retarded
>>54736878
Good luck trying to learn business with only half a brain, chances are you would be dead.
>>54736832
Kaby lake is 1151, retard.
Do you usually update every 2 years?
>>54736927
great, kaby lake will be an 8% improvement over skymeme. After kaby I guarantee you that you can throw out s1151. It's the jewtel way.
Meanwhile am4 will last at least 5 years.
>>54734590
Does AMD or Intel actually release the IPC scores for each CPU or do we just take their for it and use benchmark software?
>>54736780
>>>54736748
>>50 percent IPC gain
>[citation needed]
AMD said 40% over Vishera.
Later they said it exceeded expectations twice.
>>54735023
People buying $1000 desktop processors are a small minority. It's not where the revenue comes from.
>>54737006
Oh wow I'll need a new computer in 5 years. Mobos are always the first to crap out anyway. AMD keeps the same socket for the consumers benefit, not because a new chipset has no new features, or offers any advantage over a previous offering.
>>54737032
*word
>>54735679
Amd phenom II x6 1055t @4ghz
Its getting too old,hot and slow
i want to retire it for use in my server (under volting)
It has been one of best parts i have bought
>>54734718
DESIGNATED
>>54737034
No they said 40% over excavator specifically, which never got put I to the fx line, it's 2 full iterations newer than vishera. Only issue is its hard to Guage the performance between a low power low cache apu Vs a full fledged high power cpu. But if you look at benchmarks an am1 Athlon 5350 is just over half as powerful as an 8350 running on 25watts with no L3 cache.
Side note: wallowing with an barely overclockable lga 1366 x5650 and will be getting zen. Can't come soon enough.
>>54737041
>Mobos are always the first to crap out anyway
objectively false
>not because a new chipset has no new features, or offers any advantage over a previous offering
New features are literally memes during their first 2-3 years until they are well spread among normal users. You hardly see usb 3.1 for example.
I'm still good with my b75 s1155. It has sata6 and usb3. The only technologies that are truly beneficial (ssd and high speed flash drives)
>>54735679
x5460 @4.3Ghz
If Zen is cheap maybe, if not I will buy an AMD eight core FX CPU and mobo, I imagine ebay will be flooded with them and why not take advantage.
Why does this company still even exist?
They get consistently cucked by Intel in their CPU business and Nvidia in ther GPU business.
AMD exist only to serve the lower end of the market as best they can, you all know this deep down. They're doing a great job at it but, they'll never be the best in anything other than price.
>>54737122
Half as fast in single thread. Iirc it was about 45% in multithreading *
>>54736653
... Intel is already running into troubles trying to develop 10nm lithography. Right now everyone's trying to tune performance for 14nm and while it's entirely conceivable that they could drop a new chip that will improve IPC significantly over Zen, AMD built Zen with scalability in mind, so it's just as conceivable for AMD to drop "Zen+" or whatever was on their roadmap to compete. Regardless, without the chips or official word it's impossible to tell.
Why don't they sell a line of IBM Power8's to consumers at affordable prices?
>>54737355
>asking consumers to go from x86-64 to ARM
That's just begging for bad PR and tarnishing the IBM brand to the public for another ten years
>>54737384
>POWER is ARM
fucctarded, but I guess your point still stands.
>>54737355
They did, it was called PowerPC and it was a piece of shit stuck inside vendor locked hardware such as the Macintosh.
>>54737177
if you would be older than 12 you would know that AMD used to make the absolut best CPU on the market and INTEL was the one producing low end until they jewed AMD with underhanded and ilegal buisness
>>54737428
I thought Power8 was an ARM processor. I haven't kept up to date with whatever IBM's up to these days.
>>54737454
I had the AMD Athlon XP 1900+, but sadly the fan died and took the CPU with it, I wish I still had it, it was on the low end of the Athlons but it was a great CPU.
>>54734590
>Buying new tech
I'll wait until the next generation fo Zen comes out
>still using a FX 6300
Should've gone with an 8350 from the start. Gonna buy Zen on release.
>>54737679
>zen+ now with hbm2 integrated consumer soc.
Please let this happen.
>>54735794
>mfw bought amd stocks when they were $3.5 and now they're like $4.2
>>54738279
>mfw bought when $1.19 on Robinhood
>>54738202
>CUDA is faster at bovine calculus than a CPU with TBB
yeah no
>>54734593
>>54734590
Believing anything AMD has said these past years.
Did you AMD drones not learn from past mistakes.
>>54735679
3570k been waiting for zen
3930k
>>54738202
literally everything is wrong
>>54735679
i currently use an i5 4670. should i upgrade it? i don't see a significant slow down on anything i do. i'm mainly a music producer, concept illustrator, and 3D modeller.
>>54735679
yes, x4 955
>>54738202
Spot the shill
>>54738644
If a 6 core Zen costs more than $200 and you don't need the extra threads, don't even bother. You're not going to see a dramatic difference between it and an i5 Haswell unless you're using a lot of threads.
>>54738680
Also, I've been hearing 8-core Zens being quoted as $800-1200 for enterprise customers. Unless that's a 200% price premium for a completely different Zen CPU, I don't expect the 8 cores to be as cheap as /g/ thinks it will be.
Why do you guys never include used CPUs in your price discussions?
CPUs usually do not ever go bad, so you can buy from ebay with a lot of confidence. And some resellers provide a warranty.
>believing the amd hype machine after bulldozer and the 970/990 motherboard fiasco
Never again. There's no low they won't stoop to.
>>54735823
trolling
That's the top CPU on passmark. I doubt anything in the Zen lineup will compete with it.
>>54735066
it is unequivocally worse. if you aren't flooding th CPU with simple instruction (i.e, int mult, mov, etc) then one of the CPUs can't even decode instructions because there is only one decode stage for each gimp-core.
>>54738765
don't forget the amd fanboys who deny the rebranding and 'overclocker's dream' statements by AMD marketing staff as well.
>>54738881
The Piledriver and Zambezi were overclocker's dreams, it's just that they're so weak that overclocking them barely yields the same performance as a stock Intel Ivy Bridge using much higher voltages and drawing more power.
>>54734590
Its AMD time you intelcucks
>>54738919
i'm not talking about CPUs. i'm about about the fury x, which a marketing hack came out and said before launch that it was an 'overclocker's dream'. what he neglected to say is that they had artificially locked voltage control for that GPU and shipped it at clock speeds that were pretty much at the limit for GCN on the 28nm process.
OC on the piledriver chips is insane though, shame the per core performance is so terrible
>>54738919
Yeah sure Piledriver OCs did go high.
But we should never forget the 9590 that has a TDP of 220W, can have peak draws of 400W (400fuckingWatt from a CPU) and delivers performance inbetween an i7-3770K and i7-4790K, while drawing between 2 times and up to 3.5 times as much power on load.
Sure I want to OC this shit even further.
>>54736581
nobody knew what the fuck 64 was
AMD went from mediocre to "we profit of billions" in seconds
>>54738724
>Zens being quoted as $800-1200 for enterprise customers
eh? they said it's going to be consumer release first, as far as I remember
also for enterprise 800 is a very good price
>>54739224
I'm fairly certain that those were price quote for bulk purchases of consumer Zen SKUs, which is concerning if I heard right. They're similar in price to bulk Xeon E5s.
>>54735679
i am currently rocking a 4670K at 4GHz. got no complaints over it but i'll be looking to move back over to AMD in 2017. the fanboy in me is hoping this would be their second "Athlon 64 moment", but we'll see.
>>54739353
I hope so too, it would be nice to get their best mobo and mid-grade CPU with the option to upgrade every year without having to replace the whole system.
>>54739587
Best part about doing that is you can turn around and get a lower end mobo for the old cpu. Then just slap some spare parts in there for a quick turnaround or hand me down.
>>54739587
yeah this is the trump card right there
I think that at the very least, Zen could force Intel to stop socket-jewing so much
>>54738680
But muh e-peen demands it!
>>54736208
kek
>>54741764
Oh because the new sockets and chipsets have been such a disadvantage.
Because staying the same socket was so nice with AM3+ right.
PCI-E3.0/3.1
USB3.0/USB3.1/c
tripple and quadchannel
DDR4
And all the other stuff that came with it right.
It is totally not outdated since at least 3 years.
Where I can get 4kw PSU for it?
>>54738644
Yes you would. A Zen with 6 cores and 12 threads (or 8 & 16) will MASSIVELY speed things up when it comes to rendering and encoding. Not much for illustrating but all the programs that you use professionally scale to at least 6 cores well. I wouldn't doubt that newer versions would use up to 8 or even 16 effectively.
>>54738680
You have no clue what you're talking about. Modelling programs are very efficient when it comes multithreading. Intel's 8 core offer costs $1000. AMD will probably place it much lower. If not, the 6 core zens will be a great investment regardless.
Those graphs aren't even using the same scale, you fucking retard.
>BACKRUPT
Fucking kill yourself, you shit brained baboon.
Computex soon. We will see if they can deliver.
>>54743751
>just taking about gaming and casual use
>"durr u dun kno wat u talk aboot, more coarz good"
He has a ~$220 CPU and probably a $100 motherboard. He does not need to spend more money on a side-grade that will yield him little practical benefits in his day-to-day use. He's better off keeping his system as is for a good while, maybe upgrading his graphics card every now and then. Haswell will last him long enough, he does not need to buy Zen for more cores. At least not yet.
Im just wish thinkpad will bring out the classic frame/design/back with a zen apu in it.
All I can do is dream
>>54743939
>durr didn't read his post
It's been a few hours, but I doubt he'll need to use a modeling program on a constant basis. He should stick with what he has until at least Zen+ or Cannon Lake, when he should consider his options. I doubt Zen+ will offer a significant boost in performance, knowing that AMD spent the better part of three years getting Zen off the ground with a small team, and I doubt Cannon Lake will respond with a 4+ core model for the "consumer" socket seeing as they're adamant about four cores being enough for 99% of the consumer market.
>>54738551
>TBB
>>54738202
This triggers butthurt madfags.
Pretty accurate thou
>>54738603
Cuz muh underdog and support Israeli (AMD do has facilities in there.). :^)
>>54735679
No problem waiting for zen, the housefires-tier overclock keeps the Phenom II fast enough
>>54734590
>graph starts at zero
Based AMD
>>54735679
Maybe yes, maybe no. Currently using FX 6300 4.3 GHz.
Z E N
E E E
N E Z
Why did AMD let Nvidia win?
>>54744700
No, nVidia and Intel are anti-competitive, anti-consumer pieces of corporate shit that will do anything to unfairly sabotage the competition and improve profits.
AMD on the other hand is a company that genuinely innovates and improves on technology, instead of simply throwing money around instead of cherry picking performance graphs.
>>54738202
>He's tessellated the CUDA burger
Toplel
>>54742803
It's more being able to have a system compatible with more components so that you can upgrade a piece at a time, rather than splurging on a whole new rig each time.
I went:
Phenom II X2 + DDR3 1333MHz + AM3
Phenom II X2 + DDR3 1333MHz + AM3+
FX8320 + DDR3 1333MHz + AM3+
FX8320 + DDR3 1866MHz + AM3+
Over the course of 2 years.
If I have bought Intel, all of those upgrades would have happened at once.
>>54744811
>tessellated
>>54734593
Honestly I don't understand how the eight core Zen is twice as fast as AMD's so-called eight core 8350. Even if the 8350 is considered as a four module CPU, either:
>One Zen SMT core has the performance of a Piledriver CMT module, which sucks because a Piledriver module has a low IPC
>One Zen core has twice the maximum available performance of a Piledriver integer core, which I don't believe
>>54738202
Obvious retard detected my i7 runs hotter than a FX.
>>54738279
I bought at 2.33
>>54744547
>1.6V
You're a ballsy fucker I'll give you that.
>>54744875
This. You forgot to add that the same CPU cooler will work from the very first. I invested in a thermalright ultra 120 the best air cooler at the time. Seems like it's still going to work with zen.
>>54745008
The construction cores in general were very narrow in design, and their caches were terrible to the point where some L3 cache accesses were slower than going to main memory.
The construction core FPU was terribly slow in switching bit widths, and slow in executing 256-bit float math.
Zen's float unit doesnt have the flexFPU BS that the construction cores had, said FPU has been beefed up, the core is much wider, both in execution, front end, and backend hardware, the caches have been streamlined, and a few extra caches not in the main memory hierarchy to assist with execution in the pipelines. All 3 major pipeline types (Integer, Load/store, and Float) each have their own dedicated scheduler instead of sharing 1 4 port scheduler between a shitton of different things.
The only thing the Zen cores share now are the L3 cache blocks, which is shared between a cluster of 4 cores. Other than that, the cores are separate.
>>54735679
Been waiting to replace my gaming rig. i7 3770K. Gonna spend monies on Zen to support AMD cause I root for the underdog.
>>54734665
>>54734713
>nvme
how the fuck do you people even think this has anything to do with CPUs?
NVMe is literally just physically 4x PCIe lanes with a standard device model that drives need to follow.
A CPU even with direct PCIe lanes should never care whether some of the lanes are used for an SSD or not, only BIOS/OS should care.
>>54747448
>root for the underdog
Do you lend your wife out too?
>>54745102
Yeah, I retired the Phenom II to a server with the stock FX cooler to keep in nice and cool OC'd.
The posts in this thread are tech YouTuber tier.
>>54735679
I'm using an FX-6200 at the moment, which has a TDP of 125 fucking watts.
I'll buy Zen if it has a TDP under 70 watts. If not, then I will buy Intel instead
>>54747973
don't talk to me or my wife's son ever again
>>54744547
core clock speed performance is still shit
>>54748340
I hear that eight cores and six cores will be 95W TDP
There was a rumour that the next gen iMac will be powered by an AMD semi-custom with Zen/Polaris. But that was a WCCF tech rumour, so milage may vary.
>>54748929
Do you mean IPC? The IPC of Phenom II is better than Piledriver, so a 4.2GHz 1100T is on almost par with a sandy bridge i5 but without some modern processor extensions.
>>54748998
I've heard similar rumors on the investor's side. AMD might only be supplying APUs to Apple for their lower-end notebooks, though.
>>54735679
X980
One thousand dollars for that one
>>54749003
My phenom II [email protected] was within 5GLOPS of my [email protected] if they were both on the same older instruction sets. My AM3 system was very fine tuned though versus simple multiplier overclocking on the 2500k. Using AVX my 2500k left the 955 in the dust though. If AMD released an 8 core with 20% better IPC than Phenom II with support for better instruction sets it would do very very well in the market and make them more than competitive with intel.
>>54745008
>Honestly I don't understand how the eight core Zen is twice as fast as AMD's so-called eight core 8350.
Really? The 8350 was garbage even when it was new.
