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Old thread: >>54696571
>actually giving kickstarter crap money
what could possibly go wrong?
>>54725835
Thanks for the clarification.
Is there any way to restore ABS keys?
>>54726077
The shine comes from your oils corroding the plastic, making it smooth.
Your best guess would be to sand it down.
I have 2 MX Brown boards, one is pretty new (~1 year probably) and the other one is at least 10 years old.
the tactility on the old board is way weaker than on my new board. are there different versions of the brown switch or do the springs/plastic degrade over time?
>>54726077
Restore? Not really. Some learn to love the shiny look and feel.
Functionally wise there's not much that changes unless your legends are printed using a less durable technique.
The key to picking good keycaps is really to avoid the ones with really thin walls and looking for double-shot legends (which ABS is good at) or dye-subbed legends (good for PBT, but can only print darker). Then they'll function for a long time.
>>54726117
Sanding would probably just make it more smooth. ...unless you used rough sand paper, but then you're basically just scratching it (at best creating a "brushed" look).
>>54726310
After 10 years of this i think it makes sense that they degrade.
>>54726310
I would guess the springs are worn out. They can't keep the same tension forever.
lads, I have pic related (UK layout!)
where can I buy good PBT keys?
>>54726361
I think the springs are fine, but the tactile bump on the little pin as seen here >>54726360 probably scraped off a little, so now you basically have mx reds.
Thinking about getting an HHKB - jp layout or a ergodox infinity from massdrop
what do?
>>54726466
Slowly cut yourself and then never ever stop doing that.
>>54726466
you can buy my good as new HHKB JP
>>54726337
I love it
>>54726466
I'd say get the ergodox. seems pretty cool
>>54726657
ok what's ur price
>>54726337
oh this looks pretty cool!
>>54726685
$200 and free shipping depending on where you are
it's black, so you know
>>54726466
>HHKB - jp layout
Get to join the meme club.
Can post pictures you took of your keyboard outside.
Feel smug about having an expensive Topre board.
>ergodox infinity
Get to build something.
Save your wrists and learn an amazing typing technique.
Own something that looks like it came out of a scifi movie.
>>54726548
so edgy XD °_° lol
Do people like salmon or cream/white alps better?
>>54726665
>>54726706
it's pretty comfy but i'm not a huge fan of the tactile grey switch in the space bar, but maybe i'm just not used to it
>>54726337
>Shrinking the board
>Keeping arrows and 10 key
>A fucking trackball included
I think I found my next board.
>>54727254
*Shrinking the width of the board
>>54727254
too bad they're browns.
>>54726337
what model is that??
>>54727254
i might sell it if you are interested, its in very good condition, only the switches seem to have lost some of their tactility, see >>54726310
>>54727353
G80-11801LPADE
>>54727207
I put tactile greys in my compact sq spacebars. Pretty neat, considering my thumbs have the most force behind them.
Things that still need doing:
>Sand down one more time for extra smootheness
>even out the inside and make it a bit deeper
>re-wire the controller
>make hole for usb cable
>apply varnish to case
>>54727443
hype senpai
Retarded fucking idea.
Even if they wrote drivers to fake like ~150 analog joystick axis what the fuck would you use it for? Nothing will support it.
>>54727425
can you comment on how greys compare to clears? i was thinking about getting clears in my next board but i was really thrown off by how stiff the grey one is
>>54727478
submitting something like this to linux isn't really that hard, a bigger issue would to get it to work by default on windows and mac os.
>>54727443
>re-wire the controller
How come?
>>54727483
Greys are stiffer than clears, if that's what you're asking. Noticeably. Clears are actually a bit too heavy for me for a full-board switch - my Cherry MX board is mostly 65g Zealios.
>>54727512
Yeah it wouldn't be hard to write the drivers I'm just saying even if you had them what the hell would you do with it, map your arrow keys to Y and X axis for a thumbstick and play mario kart?
>>54727478
It works with already existing drivers and is recognized as a keybard, a controller and as a gamepad. Go be an ignorant tripfag somewhere else.
>>54727516
This here doesn't make shit any easier when it comes to fitting it into a case.
>>54727478
Nigga my terminus mini is cutom wrote drivers called artimus. The dude spent time not only mass producing his boards but chose to make his own drivers instead of ones already out there.
>>54727604
>Durr muh button has 2 usb devices assigned to it.
Sounds fucking retarded. You don't even have a gimmicky reason for doing it, kikestarter is a hell of a thing.
>>54727656
especially with all the hardware projects turning into vaporware, or the creators straight up running with the money
when will idiots with more money than brains learn?
>>54727674
Guys give me 50 grand I'm making a mouse with an analog scroll wheel that you can use to play race car games!
What a fucking joke lol.
>>54727604
>This here doesn't make shit any easier when it comes to fitting it into a case.
Put that shit under the space bar and weave all the wires under the diodes and shit.
>>54727656
This is a thread for the discussion of mechanical keyboards and the technology behind them.
Why are posting in a thread about a topic that you don't know shit about?
>>54725864
I have all of the keycaps in my washing machine.
I can never find a keyboard layout I like but I also dont want to put in the effort to make one.
I am so tempted though to do something like this
http://imgur.com/gallery/oaWa1
>>54727808
Please refrain from off topic posts in /mkg/ we need to keep the board tidy.
>>54727935
Let's start with getting rid of tripfag cancer then.
>>54727935
>gook characters
>generated tripcode
>acting this pretentious
Yea kill yourself faggot.
thank you Austrian friend
i have to say, Cherry MY are probably the worst switches i have ever felt
>>54727967
>>54727992
/mkg/ is a safe space for the controlled discussion of keyboards ONLY, this is your last chance to stop, consequences will never be the same.
>>54728053
Geez, you're one pathetic excuse of a human.
>>54728053
lol
what are you going to do?
cry for mods?
>>54728102
I already called the cyber police and backtraced the offending posts.
>>54728053
Go back to linustechtips triploser.
>>54728053
I know that trip fagget. Cant believe to see your meme again. Please get out of my safe space. My keyboard is scared.
>>54728170
Shut the fuck up Pajeet your jokes suck and don't make any sense.
>>54728204
Man nigga calm yo man boobs down. Slapping that nonsense on your keyboard again. Im an island nigger please kys.
>>54728053
sweet desktop thread copy pasta
>Advantage2 STILL isn't done
Fucking come on already.
>>54728015
you're welcome. hope you still have some use for it
>>54728531
i'll think of something neat to do with it
Got my MX lock switches in. They're pretty neat. A smoother linear action than I was anticipating.
What are the best gaterons and why are they blacks?
MX Blue switches. The pinnacle of utilitarian design. My only gripe is that the keys aren't backlit.
what's the noppo choco like?
So I dropped a soldering iron on the edge of my board by accident today and ruined a couple of keycaps. Hunting down replacements made me think of you guys after I haven't been here in over a year. Thought it might be nice to write a bit of perspective as somebody who kind of dropped out of the market, and has no desire to change up anything.
So, here's what I got.
TG3-BL82 75% modified with removable cord and full metal case. NKRO, gray tactiles with vintage black springs for most things (basically clears with a linear force curve) and regular grays for spacebar/caps/enter/etc., regular linear vintage blacks for modifiers like ctrl/alt/shift. LED's way toned down and swapped out for 80's style acid green ones.
Separate numpad with all regular gray tactiles except a blue for numlock.
2 dampeners on all keys. DSA profile (what you're stuck with if you want aftermarket caps on a 75%, minus maybe a couple SA sets).
This is what I use every day. Good tactile feel. Heavy enough for my liking with my heavy-handed typing. Throw not too long and not too short. And relatively quiet compared to clicking switches.
Caps are an ABS/PBT mix. The high use ABS keys are starting to shine after a year. The low use ABS and the high use PBT are not.
Switches I've tried.
Red/Black/Blue/Brown/My/Clear/Green/CapacativeBucklingRubber/RubberDome/Scissor Switches/BucklingSpring
Others I still own.
Unicomp Ultra Classic Model M
1984 Model M
BTC-5100 capacitive
I honestly love the Model M's but I prefer something quieter and that fits in my lap for typing every day. Not a big fan of rubber dome of any type but capacative was better than normal and scissor to me. Reds were way too light. Blacks are okay but I don't really like linear. MYs and browns were just gritty reds. Clears are great but I don't like the way the force ramps up at the bottom. Blues are too light. Greens are great but they are too loud.
So just one guy's perspective who found what he liked after trial and error.
>>54726337
That's fucking dope.
And you're selling it for 35 Euro?
>>54726758
printed or unprinted? im interested
Was looking at notch's twitter after seeing the whole 'mansplaining' roast. It looks like he's using a Unicomp Model M in the background? How fucking based can one man be?
>>54729815
>gaymer font
>utilitarian
>>54730936
>>54731552
Its to bad unicomps feel like flimsy garbage compared to older model ms
Is the Ducky Shine 5 the best vidya board?
Getting a new one soon, looking at the Brown switches.
Is there a good keyboard layout similar to this?
Keyboards. Don't know what's next. Maybe Poker 3 cause the case is so nice.
>>54730346
yeah i already have a mx brown board so letting go of this one but if nobody buys it ill def use it myself from time to time
Which is better for FPS gaymen: topre or matias quiet click?
I just joined the drop for V80 matias, and I'm using topre at work. Not sure which one to use at work and which one at home once the V80 arrives.
I type aggressively/hard, would MX Brown or Black work for me?
>>54732382
It's just another keyboard, anon.
>>54726360
lmao that "bump"
>>54725864
>use it in games to control your movement
HAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
>>54730936
>notch
>based
pick one
I've got some pretty bad ping on about a dozen of my keys. Should I shove some shelf liner behind the pcb or is this a meme?
>>54733657
>or is this a meme?
what
it's fucking shelf liner
and the ping comes either from the metal plate or from the springs in the switches. Insulating material will help with dampening overall noise, but won't do shit for pinging.
>>54733673
How does insulating material make the sound wet?
>>54733691
Anon please learn English.
>>54733716
What did I get wrong?
>>54733747
"Dampen" in that context refers to making the sound less loud, not to making it wet.
English is a fun language.
>>54725864
>Budget - Don't mind
>Location (continent at least) - UK
>Preferred switch type - MX Browns or Blues preferably
>Layout - UK layout
>Form factor - 60%
>Backlight - No
>Previous/current keyboards - Have a K70 now but would like a second 60% keyboard like pic related
>>54733673
I'm pretty sure it's from the plate and not the switches themselves. I've heard that any additional insulation might he plate's resonance though. When i put they board under a mousepad and some fabric the pinging was like 75% fixed. I'd just rather keep a clear desk. Granted, I'm quite the ignorant fuck when it comes to keyboards, so maybe it was something else going on all together.
>>54733827
You can get a barebones pok3r on WASD and some decent keycaps from somewhere that isn't WASD (and don't get the stock keycaps either). And don't get browns.
>>54733784
That's all well and good for a layman's dictionary, but the proper word is "damping".
>>54733841
Getting rid of resonance from your keyboard via dampening what the case sits on will certainly help, since the plate is resonates into the case.
I'm not so sure about how well it'd work when the insulation is under the PCB, but it'd certainly be worth a try.
>>54733849
I have a feeling most laymen would wonder if I misspelled the word "dampen", but I'll make sure to use the term "damping" when I'm around non-laymen from here on.
is lubing necessary for mx clears? i'd love to try them but i dont like the idea of putting lube in my board
>>54733890
>is lubing necessary for mx clears?
No, they work right out of the box.
who /Model M/ here?
>>54733890
>>54733901
i meant ergo clears, sorry
>>54733913
Those too also work just of the box, lubing them will make them smoother, but they still work perfectly fine without lube.
Are Model Ms bad for gaming?
If so, why?
anyone have recommendations for a cheap backlit keyboard? expensive backlit?
What do you guys think is the most aesthetic full-sized board?
Modern or otherwise
Anyone had an experience with the Choc mini? Just seen a preowned one for sale in the UK, and wondering if it's a good entry into mechanical keyboards.
>>54725864
They are marketing that keyboard completely wrong. A shitton of continuous / analog inputs is kinda useless in games, but it's incredibly useful in music. Pop an led on each key, and now it is an amazing sequencer + highly articulate instrument.
>>54734111
Simple. No LEDs, black and white, no other colours.
best budget mechanical full length keyboard?
I don't want any of that led bullshit. I've had a cheap k200 for 5 years and it just occurred to me I should probably upgrade.
>>54727361
How easy is case access? Would love to get one, open and replade with greens. They seem to be quite cheap too.
>>54735024
looks pretty easy, the case is held together by 11 screws on the back and should open nicely once you remove them
I need some cheap/reasonable keycaps for a G80 I got, pic related are 10$ atm:
>http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Cherry-MX-Keycaps-Backlight-PBT-104-keycaps-Translucidus-Backlight-Backlit-for-Mechanical-Keyboard-to-Send-key/32664462858.html
are these legit, or should I shell out 26$ for these?
>http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ducky-filco-ABS-104-double-color-Translucidus-Backlight-Keycaps-Key-Cap-For-Cherry-ISO-Mechanical-Keyboard/32616849610.html
>greentext title, don't greentext link
>don't greentext title, greentext link
What the fuck is wrong with whoever makes these threads? just keep it consistent.
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>>54733952
anyone?
>>54735426
I don't have one, but IIRC they have like 2-3 key rollover so you can't press many keys at a time and that may be an issue in many games.
Other thing is the actuation is high so unless you think you can handle it and don't have a preference for lighter actuations you can suffer from fatigue from repeated presses.
I think it's worth a try if you're curious, they never drop in value so if you buy one you can probably sell it back for what you got it
>>54733657
Is that a keycool 84?
>>54734149
Been using one with browns for the past few years. No problems whatsoever.
>>54730004
i have had this board for 3 years now and no problems, its a good board but the spacebar is pretty much impossible to replace
i would probably recommend the 84 over the noppoo choc if you intend on replacing the caps
>>54736016
keycool 84*
>>54729314
because browns are the best
>>54732465
Older Apple keyboards had something like that. Though I really dont think you wanna use arrow keys like those - ergonomic disaster, they are.
>>54730406
printed
Where to get cherry pbt iso blanks?
>>54726077
Sandblast
>>54725864
>implying any game is gonna implement it
>implying it won't have to have some sort of mapping to controller drivers to make it act like true analog movement
It's shit OP.
>>54736306
massdrop has a drop which opens every few months: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/blank-pbt-keycaps?mode=guest_open
ukkeycaps has some but it looks like they are sold out atm, and they are a bit expensive
http://ukkeycaps.bigcartel.com/product/gateron-thick-pbt-blank-keycaps-iso-ansi
>Got my new pok3r vortex with clears
>loving it
Any idea how to program it?
() <--> {} want to swap those
also some anon told me that it was easy to type ñ in ansi us, forgot what he told me, simplest way to do it?
It's finally here!
>>54736467
hold FN and press right control
then the key you want to move, then the key you want to move it to, or maybe it's the other way around, i forgot
then press PN
then repeat, as many times as you need
then press FN+RCTL again
>also some anon told me that it was easy to type ñ in ansi us, forgot what he told me, simplest way to do it?
switch to US INTL
>>54736652
let's say:
key {[ I want when pressing ctrl plus that key to perform (
fn+rctrl
shift + 9 '('
ctrl + [{
pn
fn+rctrl
result: shift not doing anything no clue, i reset.
SECOND TEST:
fn+rctrl
ctrl + [{
shift + 9 '('
pn
fn+rctrl
result: my ctrl is now (((((((
tested everything that came to my mind, nothing working yet, will keep testing, thanks
>>54736306
ukkeycaps.com has them (gateron profile though)
>>54736785
no idea
why are you pressing control
and maybe it won't recognize shift+a key
i find the pok3r to be pretty terrible, and it's my least favorite board.
>>54736822
tried to test, if I can bind the 3 in the same key
[{( with [ ctrl+( shift+{
I really like it, tested the ducky one, decided to go with a 60%, so far I like it.
Where can I get keycaps for a leopold 660M
Its somewhat non-standard layout makes buying appropriate keycaps or sets a hassle
When are blue switches supposed to send that the key was pressed?
Is it exactly when the switch clicks or very slightly below when it clicks?
>>54735398
anyone?
>got pic related today
>downloaded some drivers for it
>get this
what does this mean?
>>54737470
>>54737510
top one is english layout, bottom one JIS
>>54737125
>exactly when the switch clicks
yes
>>54733458
Its actually a good idea you dumb faggot.
there have been many games where the mouse was fine but lack of movement sensitivity ruined it and forced you to use a controller.
>>54737633
it's a good idea but the software way they do it sucks. They are just emulating an xbox 360 controller with their keyboard because no games support it natively.
That means you are better off just getting an xbox 360 controller or a clone of one to get a better gaymen experience. You also get rumble with a real controller unlike with their keyboard.
>>54737710
Well isnt that how nearly all gaming peripherals work? They almost all literally emulate a 360 controller since it has the most support especially on windows.
I dont really think its bad if thats the case. Also i dont even remember the last time i cared for having rumble in a game, i dont even notice it anymore and sometimes its just annoying and unecessary
>>54736601
Whoah! what switches are those? Late 80s cream?
So the pok3r can't program any shift+key, is this correct? pretty dissapointing not being able to change the layout as I want.
>>54737584
The actuation point is actually supposed to be slightly lower than the tactile bump/click.
>>54737905
once it clicks, it's actuated
that's physically how it works
the click is the middle part sliding off the contact leaf and slapping the bottom of the switch
if you want to get autistic, technically it's actuated just before it makes the sound
>>54737886
Ok, I think I got it, you just can change the main key minus fn related action, so when I change:
9 to [ all the key minus f9 goes to [
Well I will manage like this
>>54727817
>>54725864
I like the doubleshot modifiers and colored modifiers on these.
>>54738026
i have one keyboard with it and i can confirm this.
>>54738174
>>54738297
>>54738297
anyone had any experience with the Ajazz AK33?
>>54738148
This is how I ended up.
>Never used a mechanical keyb
>Ordered a ducky one with blues and returned it cuz awful iso layout keycaps
>ordered a pok3r 60% ansi us with mx clears
No previous experience with ansi US 60% nor mx clears, it was a lil bit of a gamble but I like it.
>Budget
$120
>Location (continent at least)
U.S.A, Texas, Laredo
>Preferred switch type
Cherry MX Blue Switch
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
I dont mind it that much if it has it or not
>Previous/current keyboards
crappy/cheap/unbranded membrane ones...
I have these 3 options in a store near me...what do you guys think?
>>54738510
The chrome OS we all dream of.
What do you do on it?
>>54738583
Honestly? Craigslist/ebay
>>54738510
>not the ck104 memeboard
/csg/ pls
another question for people with clears: do you bottom out on your modifiers when you hold them for an extended period of time?
>>54738584
Nothing so far, I just set that up for the picture.
I'm not sure what you'd want to do on that. It'd certainly be a viable option with a tablet sized screen or just an external monitor, otherwise it's hardly suited for doing anything, at least not when your desktop with a dual monitor setup is right in the other room.
>>54738614
Dunno how well it plays with backlit keyboards. It can power the single color LEDs on my shitfire TK just fine, but it doesn't work with the dual LED shine 4.
>>54738645
I did, yes. Not bottoming them out felt awkward as shit.
>>54738592
best buy actually...I haven't checked Craigslist, oh and those kb are the only ones I have seen so far available here
>>54738507
Anyone knows how to emulate this in the normal backlit version?
https://youtu.be/zLg_TIAFWco?t=16m56s
I want to leave some keys iluminated rest off. but can't make it werk, revised manual and the interwebs
I ordered a keyboard off of mechanicalkeyboards.com and was wondering if anyone on here from Canada has done the same
I usually track all my packages, but after the board was sent to Montreal, I got no real information on it
I read somewhere because it's an international package, that as soon as it hits Canada, you can't track it
But it's been over a week now that it departed in Montreal and I assume towards me
Is it true I can't track it at all and should just wait it out?
I just ordered a monitor 3 days ago and it's already in so I'm just itching to get that keyboard too
>>54738743
Have you tried entering the tracking code on the Canada Post site?
>>54738781
Yup, nothing
>>54738791
Just a wild guess, what about the Canadian USPS site?
I've noticed that when shipping stuff through Europe with DHL, each national branch had their own tracking updates on their own website only.
>>54738845
Every site seems to be saying the same thing
Just seems weird to see it in transit from Montreal for over a week with no updates
>>54738910
Could be stuck in customs, who knows. Wait another week, and if nothing happens, contact the seller for an update. They can actually inquire about the package with the carrier, since they have the receipt.
>>54725864
On a side note, I placed a pledge for two Wootings.
>>54736786
>gateron profile
Technically they have their own molds, but they're basically exact copies of cherry profile.
Here, have a picture.
>>54736960
bumpidoo
PLease! Does anyone know where I can get a Keycool 84 with clears?
It's the only board with this profile that comes in clears that I know of :(
>>54739012
>that I know of
you could get a winkeyless custom but it might be a little expensive
>>54737780
Undamped creams. Fell pretty nice, I really prefer them to my Orange ones, but those are in worse condition, so I'm not sure whether that's the reason.
>>54739583
*Feel ffs. I'm tired, sorry
>>54736601
What board is that?
>>54739931
Canon AP 360
hey guys i got my magicforce with gateron brown switches today. So there are keys to adjust the keyboards response time. If i put it on 20 c/s its functioning normally but on 40 and 60 when im holding down it shows that the keys are just being pressed repeatedly. whats going on lol (sorry for my english not my native language)
>>54732713
I'd be interested, but i know shipping would kill my wallet.
>>54733907
I found an old one in my basement. Is it worth using it for vidya? I'm currently using a $10 logitech.
>>54740352
It's hardly going to be practical for vidya due to 2KRO. Use it for non-vidya or keep it for collectors value.
Or sell it.
>>54732465
keycool 84 except it has shorter right shift and proper arrow key placement.
>>54740352
Try it and see, I game with my Ms all the time.
Unless you play an RTS and mash 10 keys at the same time, it's probably gonna be fine.
>>54740606
What kind of games do you play?
>>54732829
why not get the v80 at mechanicalkeyboards.com? massdrop barely discounted them and you have to wait.
>>54740625
Mostly FPS and platforming stuff, with some RPG and adventure in between.
>>54740711
>FPS
2KRO doesn't get in the way when playing FPS?
>>54740740
depends on the shooter and the exact model m.
There are some Ms that work pretty flawless when pressing mod+1-2 alphas and some don't. Gotta do your research.
>>54740740
nah, can still hold modifiers and two keys at the same time for things like crouch jumping. 2kro doesn't literally mean 2 keys can be pressed
https://www.microsoft.com/appliedsciences/content/projects/KeyboardGhostingDemo.aspx
can give you a good idea of what you can hold down
MX Brown.
PBT.
Some color without buying a keyset separately.
Pls.
>>54741060
matias quiet click are about as quiet as you're gonna get without introducing rubber mush, or killing the keyfeel
>>54725864
I saw this earlier on leddit. Thought it was kinda neat, though it's really just emulating an Xbox 360 controller for its "analog" sensitivity. I have no idea how it's supposed to do that with bog standard Cherry MX switches either. Come to think of it, I'm not sure how legit this thing is.
Also, whose bright idea was it to use fucking MicroUSB, or to only offer it in a TKL configuration? I like my numpads, dammit, and I don't want my cable to break if I look at it the wrong way.
I still kinda want to get one, but I'm gonna wait for them to start selling it to see if it's legit.
>>54741175
>I saw this earlier on leddit
go right back there
>>54741175
It doesn't use cherry mx switches. It uses flaretech optical (non-contact) switches.
It's TKL because it's a gaymen keyboard. Most gaymers don't need the numpad and it's more ergonomic since you don't have to spread your arms as much.
I don't even care for the gaymen aspect of it very much, I just want one because of the switch technology that's inside. It sounds fucking awesome.
typing on gateron blacks
smooth as hell but they are a little bit too heavy for me
thinking about getting gateron yellows, opinions?
Is there anything this conservative, but with a number pad? I can't seem to find anything.
>>54742122
You can get an external topre numpad.
Or a daskeyboard.
Or any full size and a set of blank keycaps.
"Conservative" doesn't tell us a whole lot.
>>54742122
why not get an external numpad? there's even mechanical ones.
>>54740241
where do you live?
shipping to the us would probably be around 20 usd
>>54726337
Are you selling this?
Which country?
>>54740740
I have never had an issue with it.
>>54736601
Just finished cleaning the caps!
In reality they are a little less brown and a bit more greyish.
>>54742147
Conservative is just the aesthetic
Very modern without curves or really flashy designs
>>54742155
Hmm I never considered that
>>54742581
>>54742122
No. Get a separate one.
>>54725864
>linear or clicky
>no tactile option
>only weak ass switches
>ugly design
>no ortholinear option
2/10 they tried
>>54742542
yes, i'm in austria, found it on my local flea market and cleaned it up but i don't really have any use for it
>>54742790
I'm quite sure they have blue switch clones.
You have some weird expectations of something that uses an entirely new technology and is not even on the market yet.
>>54743449
hint: tactiles are brown and clear
>>54743464
And blues and greens are not tactile?
I think you meant quiet tactiles.
matias QC are pretty good, better than alps orange
i just wish the keycap options weren't total shit.
>>54743734
Those keycaps look pretty nice.
>>54744033
they're doubleshot, but they're very thin abs
>tfw fell for the razer meme in 2012 and bought the original blackwidow ultimate
Don't want to buy a new keyboard until it dies. Got my hopes up yesterday when I spilled lemonade on it but it's still working after drying out, one of the keys is kind of sticking though.
>>54743734
How much would that cost? Where can I buy one?
>>54744279
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1359
>>54743734
why the fuck is matias fucking around with laser etched black pbt that's being delayed forever?
I just want more options soon.
>>54726706
What is this gem of a board?
Which Cherry switch is most like Topre in general?
Aren't they closer to rubberdome than any Cherry switch?
>>54742478
So it'd be almost 60$
I live in VA, US
>>54740638
Because I live in SEA, and shipping is quite expensive compared to massdrop.
This worth 15$?
http://m.extra.com.br/#!/produto/3374247/detalhe
>>54745383
Topre are closer to rubberdome, since they primarily ARE rubberdome.
I haven't used all the Cherry switches, but probably Browns with soft landing pads is closest to Topre 45g.
>>54725864
That's actually kind of interesting.
Problem is, how do you send that input to a video game?
Is the keyboard additionally recognized as a gamepad?
Is there a good keyboard with a couple of reprogrammable switches that isn't cherry and doesn't have 'gamer aesthetic' (rgb leds, weird colours etc). I'm trying to find something like this, but all the ones I could find were either cherry or had a ton of other stuff I didn't need.
>>54746595
>I haven't used all the Cherry switches, but probably Browns with soft landing pads is closest to Topre 45g.
Is there any factor in actual operation that makes them superior to a high end rubber dome? Is it pure hobbyist/aesthetic value?
It seems pretty pointless to shell out ~300USD for a glorified rubber dome when you can get mechanical switches of your preference for cheaper. (I don't even have a high res camera to take pictures if I buy a meem Topre board)
>>54746839
really just the capacitive contact and small tactile difference of the spring. it's worth 100 dollars to me, nowhere near 250-300.
>>54746839
IMO the Topre switch design is one of the best - you don't have to bottom out keys to actuate like Rubberdome, but also doesn't suffer from hysterisis like Cherry switches.
This theoretically means that keys should have much better long-term consistency and durability compared to rubberdomes or cherry switches.
The feel of typing on Topre really is like a hybrid between rubberdome and mechanical, so if that is your thing then Topre is for you.
Personally after having used normal rubberdomes, cherry brown, cherry blue, cherry red, and unicomp buckling spring, Topre is my favorite overall.
Hey everyone, check out my awesome new mech keyboard!
>>54746913
nice gaymer skittle vomit
>>54746879
>it's worth 100 dollars to me,
I was valuing it about the same
The only keyboard that meets that price range is the type heaven
>>54746893
>The feel of typing on Topre really is like a hybrid between rubberdome and mechanical,
Interesting. It's a shame I have nowhere to try them. Might get the cheapest Topre for the fun of it. I have used MX Blues forever
>>54746913
did you post that ironically?
>>54746893
Topre Corporation has transferred $5 to your account.
>>54746983
there's some realforce 87 and 104 returns being sold on ebay for 80-100 if you don't mind open-box
www.ebay.com/itm/252400497643
http://www.ebay.com/sch/elitekeyboards/m.html?LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc
Is there any difference between the relatively cheap Type Heaven and all the stupidly expensive Real Force? (besides the peak force choices and meme value)
Link related
http://www.topre.co.jp/en/products/elec/keyboards/index.html
>>54747029
>80-100 if you don't mind open-box
I haven't seen a RealForce under one hundred for a long time. Maybe I'm blind. Only Type Heaven sells cheap
What's the most streamlined tenkeyless keyboard with the F keys, /mkg/?
>>54747070
are trackballs actually decent
>>54746786
quickfire rapid with a frosty flake
>>54747297
no idea
I'm just dumping
I have never used one but they seem better from the practical sense since there is less of an effort to be made from interacting with it (when compared to the typical palm grip you would need for a mouse) They also seem nice for a left handed user
>>54747070
What even is the difference? Like, why is the price gap between realforce and other topre keyboards so big?
>>54747351
I asked that here
It's simply market demand I assume
There is a hobbyist community willing to pay for aesthetics and maybe some extra features (like macro keys) Look at the link and try to see why the price gap is so big. I can't seem to figure out a tangible reason >>54747053
>>54747373
I like how clean and simple topre boards look, but still I don't think it justifies the 'premium price' it asks for. Japan always does this with just about every kind of technology they make, low stock, high price, limited availability. Don't get why do they make it so hard and inaccessible for people, it just means the switch will die out like Alps did.
>>54747440
They resort to artificial scarcity and crazy prices because they don't seem to have the infrastructure for mass production
That doesn't seem like a good excuse these days when production is outsourced anyways
>>54747053
HHKB is all PBT, RF is all PBT except for ABS spacebar, TH is all ABS.
TH is also only available in fullsize, RF has fullsize and TKL.
>>54747865
that's a lot of fucking money for quality of plastic.
be cheaper to just replace lower grade plastic when it wears if you care that much from my view. Fullsize obviously makes sense as a price increase
>>54743449
Are you actually serious right now? This is literally a Hall Effect switch keyboard. They're fucking ANCIENT.
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Honeywell_Hall_Effect
These guys probably saw this:
https://youtu.be/gEwDImE0DU4
and thought "Hey, lets make shittons of money by claiming we innovated a technology in use since the fuckin Cold War!"
>>54748080
It still is probably going to be more affordable and accessible than current Hall effect keyboards, which go for about $600 at least.
>>54727674
>>54727690
lol answering yourself there tripboi?
>>54744447
Leopold FC660M with Granite Keycaps.
>>54747297
If you ask me they are awesome. Especially kensington ones.
>>54748080
I'm aware of hall effect switches. Flaretech switches use infrared, not magnets. They're as close to Topre as they are to hall effect in the sense that they're non-contact.
A friend of mine recently gave me his old CM Storm Quickfire TK.
The keyboard itself is fully functional, but the keycaps are all messed up.
What kind of keycaps would I want to get for it?
Forgot to mention that it's my first mechanical keyboard.
>>54733952
Rollover for the model M's are horrid. Makes them nigh unsusable for any 'high-action' modern vidya. The could probably work for more casual stuff, though.
>>54750195
The bottom row is beyond non-standard, you're going to have trouble finding keycaps for that.
You'd be better off to put the money that a set of replacement keycaps that aren't as shit as the original ones and actually fit the bottom row towards new a keyboard
> Wooting One
I had this idea years ago. The only problem is, no program is prepared for it. They should standardize the HID class or somthing.
>>54750664
I'm not going to buy a new keyboard since I don't have the money for that.
Are keycaps for the CM Storm Quickfire TK THAT expensive?
>>54746839
I own a Topre (55g Realforce), buckling spring (unicomp) and have tried cherry MX browns and blues. I think Topre is the best followed by the MX blues.
