Is there a light (<1.6kg) FHD laptop with 10 hours or more of battery that's well-priced and doesn't have a tablet CPU?
>Dell XPS 13
It has the adaptative brightness problem, unsolvable in the FHD version, and the QHD version costs more and has around 4 hours less of battery.
>Macbook Pro
Costs as much used as a new XPS 13. 16:10 though.
>Zenbook
Tablet CPU.
Macbook Pro is pretty much your only option.
>>54718889
Too expensive even used, plus it probably has the worst Linux compatibility of any laptop I've seen.
>>54718917
This is untrue. Also, why would you want a FHD laptop with linux, the ugliest OS? kek
>>54718917
Refreshed xps13 developer edition dont have brightness issue afaik
>>54718872
>adaptative brightness problem
Literally memes, never seen an issue with brightness. I have a 2015 XPS 13 (FHD non-touchscreen) and even after 1 year of intense usage i get around 8hrs with a full charge.
I have an XPS 13 and don't have the adaptive brightness issues.
The only problem I've had with it was with the trackpad, but installing synaptic drivers and the recent bios update, seems to resolved the issue somehow.
>>54718938
>This is untrue.
No it isn't. I know because I was almost going to buy one until I realized things like the webcam needed kernel patching and extracting the driver directly from OS X.
>>54718948
The QHD versions don't, but those cost more and have less battery life.
>>54718957
>Literally memes
No it isn't, it has been tested by several people. Dell themselves admited the problem and put out a solution (that only works on an installation of Windows) for the QHD version. The FHD version is unpatchable.
Out of curiosity, 8 hours on Windows?
>>54718971
Look ALL XPS 13's since Broadwell have this issue, it's not a silicon lottery. You might just not notice it, or if you have the QHD version they may have reflashed the screen for you.
Trust me, I take no pleasure in knowing this shit happens because it means I have to pay around 150$ more for the QHD version.
>>54718872
Most Zenbooks use i5 and i7, what are you talking about?
>>54719137
You're right, I was talking about the UX305 which I considered. Since then I've looked at the 303, which used a TN screen or something.
I don't want to be a macfag, but it seems like Apple is the only capable of producing a laptop without at least one glaring flaw.
>>54719291
https://www.asus.com/Notebooks/ASUS-ZenBook-UX303UA/specifications/
FHD is IPS
>>54719347
http://www.trustedreviews.com/asus-zenbook-ux305-review-screen-quality-and-performance-page-2#tr-review-summary
This one? It seems really good, thanks.
>>54719291
The UX303UB i5 version comes with an FHD IPS screen. I just bought one a few months ago. The ram and HDD are also upgradeable. I upgraded my ram from 8GB to 12GB and HDD to SSD.
>>54718872
....so your only issue with the XPS 13 1080p is the adaptive brightness? Just fucking get it.
Also the 4 hours less of battery on the QHD version isn't that drastic, and it can still do around 10 hours. I've used mine for 8 hours and had 40% left (windows 10, 40% brightness, some document editing most of the day).
>>54719776
Yes, that's my only issue and it's not one I tolerate on a ~1000$ laptop. It's really not acceptable. Screens are something I care about a lot (the main reason I considered the MBP was having a decent screen, high DPI and 16:10).
Currently considering the UX305, which has terrible color accuracy unless you use an ICC profile.
>>54718872
>It has the adaptative brightness problem,
Care to elaborate? Been interested in the XPS13 but this is the first I've heard of it
>>54719813
....but the screen on the XPS 13 on all versions is still pretty fantastic. Brightness, contrast, and colour accuracy are all good and it does around 75% adobe rgb coverage. I'm guessing you're the same guy I mentioned this issue to the other day when recommending laptops, but I'm saying it's really minor. A friend has had the 1080p version for a few months now and noticed it but it doesn't bother them.
Still, up to you but even with this I'd argue it's the best laptop out there.
>>54719844
Basically the screen on the XPS 13 adapts itself to the content. You may have seen some screens that adapt their brightness to the environment light (like smartphones do), but in this case it gets brighter when your screen is showing brighter stuff and lower when it's displaying dark content.
This means if you're using a dark terminal window it will have really low brightness and if you alt+tab to a white firefox window it increases brightness all the way up. In movies it's a problem.
The real problem is, this isn't fixable for the FHD version. The screen doesn't have physical connections to replace the firmware from an OS, so the QHD version can be fixed, the FHD can't.
https://m.reddit.com/r/Dell/comments/4b497h/cant_stand_this_adaptive_brightness_on_my_new_xps/
>>54719911
2 Shekels have been deposited into your account, Pajeet!
>>54719938
I was expecting this. Good retort dude, solid argument.
Who are you shilling for, then?
>>54719911
That wasn't me, no.
Some people say it's a really big issue, others say they've noticed it, but don't really mind.
This is really the only flaw I find on it.
>>54719938
This wasn't me (OP).
>>54719912
Well shit, that sounds pretty frustrating.
Might have to try and find one in a store then and see if it's instantly noticeable for me. Strange how I've not seen it mentioned before
>>54719954
I shill only for this dog, anonajeet.
>>54719974
That dog is not technology though.
Get out of /g/.
>>54719991
>Dog
Doesn't adapt brightness to content color.
>XPS 13
Adapts brightness to content color.
Dog is objectively better.
>>54719813
Its not a issue, iv'e seen it do it only twice, and forgot about it until i saw this threat
I have a 2014 Acer Aspire S7-392 with wqhd screen. Battery life was initially great (~6 hr) but now I get 2, 3 hr tops. Dunno if it's age, cycles, or Windows 10 being a shit. Probably a combination.
Anyway, it's light as fuck, 8GB or RAM is perfect, and the haswell i5 is fine too. Runs hot sometimes but that only started after W10, so it's probably just driver issues.
The touchscreen was a waste, I rarely use it at all.
>>54720007
>XPS 13
you can watch porn on it
>dog
(...no don't even think of fucking this thing)
XPS 13 is OBJECTIVELY superior.
>>54720031
Almost no one who gets a laptop with a touchscreen uses it. It's just a gimmick.
That's a serious reduction, was this always on Windows 10?
Anyway I considered the Acer S7, but it's around 1000$. It just enters refurbed MBP prices.
>>54720040
>XPS 13
Battery cycle issues lead to a laptop that will crap out when you need it most. Also, is inanimate, and will not love you.
>dog
Will love you unconditionally, always be happy to see you, and will make your life a little better every day
Dog is objectively worthier.
>>54720095
>XPS 13
can run nonstop forever if plugged in
>dog
requires sleep once every 24 hours, takes many many hours to charge, and has planned obsolescence after ~10 years
It's like you want to buy from Apple or something.
>>54720079
Yeah, it was definitely 10. Also fucked up the Audi drivers and some other shit but I managed to fix that. The only thing it improved was scaling.
I really like the form factor, tapered thin laptops don't look as good as slightly thicker but the same all around ones to me.
>>54720095
>Also, is inanimate, and will not love you.
Dafuq did you just say about my riced Arch with loli wallpapers and a shell greeting?
Surface pro 4. Battery is more like 8 or 9 hours or though.
>>54718872
Carbon x1 or x1 Yoga
Do your own research of course but they are both really good machines. Much higher build quality than the xps line, consider it.exe
>>54718872
X1 Carbon 2016 FHD has 9 hours of battery life
>>54718996
Why do you car about the stupid "auto brightness" issue anyways. Not like its gonnna kill ya.
>>54720256
>Ctl-f
>No one has posted x1 yet because people fall for the hating Lenovo meme
>Posts x1
>Refresh page
>Someone else just did
This has happened three fucking times today :^)
>>54720254
>that image
Funny. Yoga 500, i5, 8GB DDR4, 1TB HDD, 1080p. 600 USD.
Not that I care a lot, but I'm glad that 1080p is at least finally becoming standard on laptops around $500 nowadays.
>>54720254
Yes, but the Carbon X1 had a 1600x900 (completely unacceptable at that price range) and the X1 yoga was severely over my budget.
>>54720231
I just checked ebay and they are cheaper than I expected. If I don't get raped on import taxes I'm seriously considering it (plus bluetooth keyboard means I can use based ANSI).
>>54720307
>hating Lenovo meme
It's like you want a botnet. It fucking amazes me that anyone still trusts that Chinese shit anymore.
http://thehackernews.com/2015/09/lenovo-laptop-virus.html
Not to hijack the thread, but any recommendations on a new laptop? I'll be using it mostly for just surfing the web/youtube/netflix/videos, and playing a few games. Nothing too intensive. Shit like CK2, Stellaris, HoI4.
I'll be using it pretty much every day, so I don't want it to be too heavy. Anything under $2000 would be preferable. Not really looking for a gaming laptop, just something I can use that can play certain games reasonably well.
>>54720344
>Carbon X1 had a 1600x900
yeah, in 2013
x1 carbon 2016 has FHD IPS display as the lowest end config, less than $1000 and that's before using thinkpad general discount
Alright gentlemen, between the Zenbook UX305 and the Surface Pro 3? Considering it's for Linux daily use.
>>54720449
You don't need a 2k$ laptop for that, though I'm not entirely sure what to recommend.
>>54720536
>between the Zenbook UX305 and the Surface Pro 3? Considering it's for Linux daily use.
you couldn't have fucked up your decision making harder if you tried
>>54720449
chromebook pixel
play games with crouton
>Battery life
It's pretty much on the bottom of my priority list when it comes to laptops.
The battery will always go to shit sooner or later, so I'll take a smaller battery and lighten the weight.
I'm >always< around a power source when I have an actual need to use my laptop.
>b-but I go rock climbing for a sports magazine for weeks at a time and I need to do editing and uploading while I'm out in the field to meet my quota
Yeah, right.
Fit solar panels on your camper and run off of its batteries.
>>54720563
Why? Both have good Linux driver support.
>>54720519
Apparently bad contrast (500:1) and battery life, but good at everything else. Apparently it has a super keyboard for an ultrabook.
>>54720617
I'm sorry if my usecases upset you.
>>54720617
I can't even fathom being this retarded. Battery life is one of the only things that matters on a laptop. In fact, it's the only thing about the form factor that makes it worth it
>>54720643
try 1094:1
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-20FB-005XUS-Notebook-Review.164475.0.html
>>54720643
>I'm sorry if my usecases upset you.
What do you even do with it?
And how do you prevent the battery from degrading over time anyway?
>>54720675
>it's the only thing about the form factor that makes it worth it
Well, my workplace has both day-, evening-, and night-shifts, so we use the laptops in order to have "our own" machines to connect to docking stations and whatnot.
That way we only have to configure our CAD/CAM software once, input sensitivity stays how it is, etc.
And only one employee will be affected by a single laptop breaking down.
The laptops fit in our lockable tool wagons (everyone has one), and we use the laptops to diagnose machinery out in the factory production lines.
If people -really- need the battery life they can get an "extended battery pack" that slots into the same port as the docking station.
>>54720790
so you're one of the *very* few people who uses his laptop as a portable desktop and uses it at a desk more often than not. Most people use their laptop as a portable machine or use it in a more comfortable and convenient location than a desk
>>54719813
Just get the qhd version
>>54720790
So your particular use doesn't really require battery. That's cool. I don't happen to have a docking station on the library where I study.
>And how do you prevent the battery from degrading over time anyway?
By that logic I wouldn't buy anything since everything degrades over time.
>>54720844
The thing is, I don't want QHD. I'll have to deal with Gnome scaling, every movie will scale, I'll have less battery and I'll reach the exact limit of my budget all so that fonts render slightly better. I'm still considering it, but right now the fanless UX305 that weighs 1.2kg and costs under 600€ is taking the cake.
>>54720675
I can't find a single 2016 on eBay and on physical stores they cost more than a MBP retina all pimped out.
>>54720337
>Yoga 500
The Ideapad 300 and Inspiron 14 seem like total steals for the specs, what am I gonna miss out on? I'm feeling suspicious
>>54720886
Well, yeah, when I go out in the factory to use it for diagnosing problems I can't plug it in because there aren't any outlets in the production environment.
A 2½ hour battery life is more than enough to transfer the data I need.
But your library doesn't have outlets?
Not even at the reading booths (assuming you have those)?
>>54720817
>uses his laptop as a portable desktop
I guess I am.
>Most people use their laptop as a portable machine
So, yeah.
I could be on the floor doing my job (oil and such makes it rather uncomfortable, though).
I've taken the laptop outside on a bench once because I had to sit down and watch some videos about SAP.
That didn't take long, so I never ran into any problems.
I wouldn't go out there for working in Catia since I'd have to bring along my mouse and the 3D Space Navigator thing as well.
>>54720934
No idea, I'm not familiar with those. My mother bought the 500 a while back and there's nothing particularly bad about it for the price. Just seems like a good standard upgrade from something she bought 5 years ago for the same price.
>>54720178
kek
>>54720886
You said you want good screen. Qhd one has the best screen of any laptop mentioned in this thread. Also it comes natively with ubuntu and unity scales just fine. 1080p movies also wont look any different to watching them on 1080p monitor at the same size
>inb4 muh unity
Nothing wrong with it if youre not a ricer. Youre not a ricer are you?
>>54720095
>xps13
Battery can be replaced
>dog
Dies and leaves you forever
>tfw I bought a 2015 rMBP 15" low-end for 1649€ a year ago and absolutely love it
fuck almost any other Apple product, though.
>>54721109
Don't use Unity. And yes, I want a good screen, but I'd only be considering the QHD because it doesn't mess up the brightness, not because I actually want fuckhuge color accuracy and almost 300dpi. The XPS 13 FHD would be perfect for me if Sharp didn't use retarded unremovable features.
>>54721138
Holy shit thats not a good rice youre aware yea?
>>54721138
>almost
The rest, anon
>>54721174
considering it's originally 2099€ here, yes it fucking is, mate.
>>54721188
So this is how people become macfags
>see apple laptop way cheaper than shelf price
>get excited and buy it
>realise there are better options even at your discounted price
>go full on post purschase razionalization with things like
>muh superior os
>muh subjectively better toucpad
>>54721247
more like
>I've always liked the MacBook line
>"shit, I easliy could afford one"
>fucking hate Apple costumers but I won't let that have any influence on me
>see a giant discount
>man, I know there are really good alternatives but I really like the OS and the touchpad is fucking great
>buy it
>enjoy it and recommend people this and any other products cause I'm not a fucking manchild with a favorite brand
I live the easy life
I have an xps 13 9350 and it no longer adjusts the brightness automatically after installing linux. It might also be because I updated to the latest firmware.
>>54721301
shit, consumers*
I guess I don't speak that well my second language.
>>54721304
The full hd or the qhd?
>>54721353
HD one. 1080p
>>54720968
Wtf, for such use get a think pad, you need build quality and sturdiness
>>54720904
>ebay
>physical stores
buy it right from lenovo, and go to the thinkpad general to get 15% off
an i5, 8gb ram, 1080p IPS display, and 128gb ssd is $950 before discount
>>54721134
Hits me right in the feels, anon. :(
>>54718872
VAIO Pro 13
Buy as much of the external battery as you want, I've been keeping mine up for 19 hours now without any cables
I got the XPS 13 QHD. Rate my purchase.
http://vod.ebay.com/vod/FetchOrderDetails?sspagename=STRK%3AMESO%3AVPS&itemid=191880283666&transid=1269529698009&viewpaymentstatus=
>i5 5200U
>256GB SSD
>3200x1800
>695$ + shipping + import rape = 887$
>>54723223
not bad apart from import rape
should have gone with FHD DESU
on a 13" screen at a normal distance you can't really tell so long as you're using non-windows, plus 4 extra hours of battery life
good move going for the broadwell version though. anyone buying a 2016 version is just paying a $500 stupid tax
Xps 15
>>54723748
The fhd has the issues mentioned before: adaptative brightness you can't disable. Mad autism trigger.
I'm really only concerned about battery life since it's used, but a new battery is like 60$ and ifixit said it was easy to replace.
>>54723223
>3200x1800
>13"
I hope you don't plan to use any legacy or non "modern" apps. Maybe it's gotten better, but when I owned one not even After Effects/Photoshop supported scaling. Otherwise pretty good deal
