What's the point of encrypting your HD if they will throw you in jail if you don't decrypt?
>>54706770
What's the point of locking your door if the SWAT team will just break it down?
>>54706770
The police in pic is Dutch. We have no decryption orders.
But even for muricans encryption helps against (laptop) thieves and annoying family members. And encrypted communication helps against eaves dropping by criminals.
Why wouldnt you encrypt everything?
You give them the fake decryption password
anyone else can access your shit, most windows systems have their filesystems completely open
>>54706770
>tfw don't live in Burgerstan, Land of the Thousand Claps
Enjoy your "freedumbs" and cuckoldry, fatty.
>>54706859
Yea. Walk into 99% of business buildings boot Linux on a computer.. enjoy every file
>>54706770
It doesn't matter when your crytpo software has backdoors
>>54706770
Because you plead the five which means that the dea can and will make you out as a culprit via rhetoric on the jury. The five is easily thought of as an admission of guilt,and once you play this card you cannot unplayable it
My shit is only encrypted so in the off chance my laptop, phone, or tablet is stolen, the thief has nothing more than a fancy paperweight. If my stuff was ever suspect and I was required to decrypt it, no problem.
I'm not on for the " nothing to hide nothing to fear" mantra, but I'll be damned if in going to spend any time in jail for a principal. The most sensitive data I have is a plaintext document of passwords for various services/sites I use.
>>54706770
Because that way no one is going to rape you in jail
>>54706830
Fucking idiot
>>54706770
Just write a panic script into your login. Type in the panic pasword and it punches as many holes as it can before rebooting.
>>54706770
simple solution to this
>use keyfile on micro sd to decrypt your HDD
>feds come after you, you 'accidentally' break the card.
>>54707091
It's not credible you only have one copy of the keyfile, trusting everything on a micro sd
>>54706770
Can I get arrested by her and ask for her to be held against me?
>>54707119
Are you saying the feds won't trust that the only copy of the keyfile is destroyed?
If so then they can claim that just about any random space on your HD is actually encrypted, and demand the encryption key.
>>54706770
that's a nice policebutt
I'll enjoy it now, since it will be creepy when my sister joins the force.
>>54706830
This
>>54707349
>creepy
fucking normie
start spying on your sister now so you get even more turned on by her in uniform
>>54707349
>implying it won't be better when she comes home in her tight policebutt uniform and sits on your face, farting until you fall unconscious from suffocation, only to wake up to more farts
lad..
>>54706770
>tfw she will never sit on you
Is 4chan slow only for me? Or you guys have the same issue?
>>54706770
>whats the point of living if we're all going to die anyways?
>>54707703
I've made fun of people for brown-nosing cops before, but you're making it too easy
>>54706770
So you can tell your new prison friends you're in for industrial espionage and not cheese pizza.
Going to jail is the only way linux/pedos will get laid.
>>54706770
Whats the point of decrypting terrabytes of porn and dank memes?
Nothing. You all are just edgy degenerates.
>>54708205
>decryption
encrypting, sorry, this subject makes me retarded
>>54706770
I'd let her in my backdoor if you know what I mean
>>54706770
You get a lesser sentence
>>54708101
Explains why india has so much population
>>54707703
>Get Arrested by her
>Resist
>Sits on you to put on cufs
>Feelsgoodman.jpg
>Finallytouchedafemale.png
>>54707735
It was slow for me yesterday. But now it's back to normal.
>>54708508
Everything is slow for me suddenly
FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT STRAYAN INTERNET I SWEAR
>>54706770
You have to tell them you forgot, and make it believable. If you taunt them and act smug you deserve what you get.
>>54708555
It was weird, I monitored my Network traffic and I just didn't get a lot. When doing speed tests, it would jump up to it's usual speed, but loading any site was slow.
It also only appeared to be like that on my PC, on my phone it all loaded normally.
>>54708665
SOunds like DNS problems.
>>54708424
I wish I knew this feel
Use a program that decrypts with one password and purges everything with another one.
>>54708878
Such as?
>>54708692
It's not as amazing as you think. And it wears off
>>54708904
I don't think it's hard to program one
>>54708994
>its not hard to implement encryption in a program
ok pleb try it and use it and see how good it is
If you're at a point in your life where the police know you have cp on your computer, and you've been arrested and charged for having cp on your computer, and you encrypted your hard drive because you keep cp on your computer - then take a look around and realize everything going on is your fault, and you deserve everything the legal system throws at you.
>>54709048
>>its not hard to implement encryption in a program
here's an open source one on google code
it's about 2.5 MB. Probably a weekend project.
https://code.google.com/archive/p/beerbottle/
>>54709053
Depending on where you live, chinese cartoons can be considered cheese pizza, so I don't think it's fair to say that someone in that particular situation will always deserve everything the legal system throws at you.
>>54709048
You can chimerize a bash script with something like LUKS
>>54706770
So I can sue the government after they violate my 5A right to not incriminate myself.
>>54709137
there's already a judicial precedent, you won't have a case
>>54708904
>Such as?
generally you'd either use a hidden operating system (https://veracrypt.codeplex.com/wikipage?title=Hidden%20Operating%20System) or a startup script which, when logged in (as the wrong user/password), immediately runs rm -rf /
>>54709170
>there's already a judicial precedent
Citation?
I believe the only case that the government has to require decryption is if they have independent proof that there is information on the drive and that was an iffy case which wasn't appealed.
>>54709106
>>54709092
What the fuck are you guys talking about, fucking retards.
Yeah, you can make one in some minutes, but the encryption won't we worth shit even if its aes256 you fucking animals. DO YOU REALLY THINK YOU CAN IMPLEMENT IT WITHOUT HAVING EVEN A SINGLE BUG/HOLE?
thats the hard part retards
A single bug in shit like these will fuck up your "encryption"
>>54709224
>A single bug in shit like these will fuck up your "encryption"
So basically, what you're saying is, it's impossible to encrypt anything?
You need to keep in mind that the encryption breakers and masters of exploits work at the NSA, not the FBI or your local sheriff's office, and as such won't be involved in your case (unless of course, you are suspected of something worse than cheese pizza).
Even if your encryption scheme has a bug, or even a significant design oversight, local PD probably isn't going to be able to do anything with it.
>>54707091
That's obstruction, which is probably just as serious of a crime as whatever you were accused of doing in the first place
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0v7y8O9VOLj
>>54709224
>A single bug in shit like these will fuck up your "encryption"
encryption is testable, anon
just like any other software
you wouldn't release or use it without running provably-correct tests, including known-plaintext and known-cypertext checks.
>>54706770
Why are you trying to break the law in the first place you scum of society?
>>54706770
let's talk about that juicy ass for a second lads
>>54709277
Debatable, some crimes that can be hidden with encryption will net you more than 20 years (in the US at least).
![Joshua_[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xpOUHVu.jpg "Joshua_[1].jpg")
>>54709224
>>54709048
Just ask this guy to do it for you. He's a genius, probably won't charge you much. A couple of watermelons, I think should be enough.
>>54709294
>you wouldn't release or use it without running provably-correct tests
So once you finish testing it, its bulletproof and no one can do anything to it anymore, because you made "all" the tests and known "checks" ?
lol, do you know what software receive updates?
What about the unknown checks your simple brain doesn't know about?
What about other bugs you just CAN'T know exist until a specialist looks at it?
Or maybe you are the ultimate God who just knows everything?
>>54709333
In many jurisdictions the maximum possible obstruction sentence is equal to the sentence for the crime connected to the obstruction. And in an instance like "breaking the only key to incriminating, encrypted files right as the FBI breaks down your door", it's an easy conviction.
>>54709374
Odd, nothing in the wikipedia article on obstruction says that.
Could you provide a citation?
>>54706770
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/10/04/calif-appeals-court-approves-cell-phone-searches-during-traffic-stops/
Also a fingerprint doesn't work like a password they can legally enter your phone without probable cause. Encrypt your shit and use a strong password.
>>54706770
Rubberhose encryption, you braindead mouthbreather.
>>54706770
Stops the random nig from seeing my files when my Thinkpad (TM) gets stolen.
I sometimes go to a crowded bar after work, and have it in a bag in the corner where anyone could just grab it.
I would worry if I didn't encrypt.
>>54709393
Here's one of the first results on google:
>https://www.ohiobar.org/forpublic/resources/lawyoucanuse/pages/lawyoucanuse-132.aspx
>Q: What is the penalty for obstruction?
>A: Generally, federal obstruction of justice is punishable by up to five years in prison. If the obstruction occurs in connection with the trial of a federal criminal case, the defendant may be sentenced to either five years in prison, or the maximum sentence that could be imposed in the trial in which the obstruction occurred, whichever is greater. For example, if the obstruction occurs in connection with a drug trafficking case carrying a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison, the person who obstructed justice might receive 20 years in prison for obstructing justice. If the person who obstructed justice was also the defendant in the drug trafficking case, the obstruction sentence might be added to the drug trafficking sentence, for a maximum possible sentence of 40 years in prison.
>>54709447
>dealing drugs is still not legal in his country
>>54709291
You gotta be 18 to be here
Is it really just cheese pizza that people are encrypting? /g/ has always been vague about it but I assumed at the least you guys had some kind of world domination plan that you need under lock and key, but kid poon? That's why encryption is so stressed here?
>>54709489
lol is that a nigger in a supervisory role?
>>54709502
I hope not.
Police are just copying your phone if they feel like at traffic stops though so who knows.
>>54706770
The HDD password is just the decoy.
All the real stuff is inside a truecrypt image called 'Game.of.Thrones.S5E3.1080p.mkv'
>>54709502
child pornography is literally the worst thing in the world. If you went to prison for murdering a dozen people or for having a cool plan to nuke the superbowl nobody in prison would give a fuck.
But CP? You gon' get raped for sure
>>54709502
I got my SD card encrypted because of my dick pics.
>>54709506
lol, is that a racist with Internet access?
>>54709506
>nigger
**Independent black man who don't need a white boy
>>54709545
to B L A C K others' wives
>>54709533
Why save them? Can't you just take a new one if you need it?
>>54709544
Spot the black guy
>>54709559
Because I am proud of my footlong dick
"I forgot the password"
>>54709447
> If the obstruction occurs in connection with the trial of a federal criminal case
Is cheese pizza possession a federal crime?
>>54709559
Sometimes you're just having a good dick day. You ever wake up and you're like WOW my dick is big this morning compared to normal?
>>54709586
Well I don't have a dick so...
>>54709603
Oh, well there's a good chance the dick pix he saved are really nice ones where his dick is looking really good.
>>54709502
Not necessarily, encryption is basically just privacy.
>>54709603
You do have boobies
>>54709291
underageb&
>>54709636
I am 29, but nice try faget.
>>54706770
Ooooooo. Dat ass!
>>54706770
they won't unless you live in the US or UK.
Both countries are shit and you deserve everything that happens to you if you live there.
>>54706770
So that you can pretend not to be a pedophile by claiming you won't decrypt your harddrive out of principle.
>>54709374
But that's not obstruction you stupid faggot.
They have to prove it, and they won't, since the sd card won't be readable anymore.
>>54706770
I'm not encrypting it for them, but for not-them. Various thieves and such.
>>54707006
>they don't copy the HD
you retarded?
>>54706770
Would decompile her ass if you know what i mean :^)
>>54709729
Yup. The first thing any forensics worker does is clone the drive.
>>54709719
How many snapped SD cards do you have lying around? All they have to prove is that you broke it with the intent of impeding their investigation, which is not nearly as hard as you think. Evidence that it was broken deliberately is more than enough to file obstruction charges; they don't need to know what was on the drive.
>>54709790
What if you swallowed it? Then they couldn't find shit
>>54709544
>>54706770
>breaking the law
>>54706770
I've been a bad goy, I deserve punishment :^) Please have no mercy m'lady
>>54706770
I encrypt to keep my stuff safe from thieves, I don't do anything illegal my friend.
SD cards and USB drives are small as fuck these days. Police searches are thorough, but the possibilities are limitless when you're talking about devices this small. There's a million places you could keep an SD card where it'd never be found.
Also, you could just, you know, stop it with the CP. Police aren't going to raid you for downloading copyright infringing music, and you're not a TV hacker with a database full of classified documents.
>>54706830
this
>>54706770
In case someone steals my equipment, it's good to know they won't be able to steal all my private information without typing in ilovebuttsex123.
>>54706770
I'd assume that you'd get a lesser charge than if they got on it and had the actual evidence.
>>54710228
If the court orders you to decrypt it and you refuse, they'll hold you indefinitely in contempt.
Rubberhose encryption isn't too hard to do these days, and you can plausible deniability the hidden partitions as garbage data
>>54710069
>Police aren't going to raid you for downloading copyright infringing music
They have literally done that exact thing to a whole bunch of people in a whole bunch of countries.
>>54706994
I lol when people like you get arrested, horrible subhuman pieces of shit like you deserve to have the bracelets.
>>54706770
That's why you have 2 portions with different passwords. One for CP, one for FBI decoy.
>>54710441
http://tips.fbi.gov/
In the UK it's an automatic 2 years inside if you fail to provide the means to decrypt your data.
So you need to decide which will get you more time, failing to provide, or the shit on your drive.
>>54709053
they don't know anything if they don't have any proof
>>54709408
>>54710291
THIS IS THE CORRECT ANSWER
>>54708878
They image the drive you nubtard.
>>54709584
Yes
Furthermore you plebs they have kits to help them bring your computer back to the lab in a powered state.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erq4TO_a3z8
And then they extract your ram back at the lab and get your encryption keys.
That's why you never leave a sensitive system live.
>>54710396
"But the children" isn't a good reason. Go tell all your family every single thing you do online, and stop being an anon before you say only pedos want privacy. If Microsoft/the government has the data, *best* case, it just gets leaked. Worst, and more likely case, they use it to pressure people to do things. Some won't care, but enough will.
>>54709396
>>54709396
HUH??? Didn't Riley v. California reverse that? Police can no longer serach your phone without a warrant.
But yeah I agree, encrypt and password. No need to make a cops life easier because he doesn't want to follow the rules or respect your freedom.
>>54709502
So images that you happens to come across from a guy who physically took them to 500 other guys who viewed you are equally dealt with? Nice
>>54709092
didn't beerbottle used to have a panic/destroy security password that was later taken out?
>provide excellent open source solution to illegal search and seizure
>remove it without comment
too spoopy 5 me
>>54709198
theres a dude sitting in jail right now, unless somethings changed in the last few weeks
https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2016/04/28/suspect-who-wont-decrypt-hard-drives-jailed-indefinitely/
From that case it looks like there's existing precedent where somehow withholding the password is obstruction, not a 5A protected act. gg murika.
>>54706877
This, Americans and their freedoms, how silly...
>>54707383
>fucking normie
Not OP but I'll take that tag over your sexual fixation for your sister tag.
>>54712408
>theres a dude sitting in jail right now
Yes, his lawyer is currently awaiting the appellate level to get his client out. This is a different argument from:
>there's already a judicial precedent
Is this to mean that there is no judicial precedent?
>>54709502
SeaPee is to encryption what terrorism is to privacy, it's the bogeyman that those who have decided they need to access everything always use to push forward legislation making it illegal to ever hide anything from them for any reason.
>>54706840
I miss The Netherlands! You have the most beautiful women there!
>>54706840
>Why wouldnt you encrypt everything?
I agree 100% also I forgot to add this to >>54713206 sorry I wasn't focused.
>>54706892
proper businesses won't cache anything other than the OS on the computers the plebs use
>>54707789
that's a fucking reddit tier comment if I've ever seen one
>>54706770
That ass is perfect.
>>54709103
what kind of a shithole considers anime to be cp
I wonder if they newly introduced encryption from end to end of whatsapp is good...
>>54711566
why not have a simple trap or chassis intrusion detection that activates a small explosive or thermite charge?
>>54709489
But it is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Company
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mallinckrodt#Products
http://www.nytimes.com/1988/07/01/business/how-coca-cola-obtains-its-coca.html
>dat ass
>>54707386
Your sisters or cousins must've loathed you then, Anon.
>>54706770
If I encrypt everything does she come to rough me up?
>>54706770
I a total noob so feel free to laugh at me. What exactly is encryption? Ill do some googling as well.
>>54706770
Probably a lot of reasons, but I'll add this one:
If you have an OS on there it's not possible to modify files or infect it from another OS unless you decrypt it first.
>>54709993
isnt that what a password is for? Or are you afraid of someone snatchin that thinkpad in the middle of a shitpost?
>>54706770
Go to jail and be free.. free like all cows OP.. moo moo
>>54714454
a form of obfuscation, you alter data in such a way that one can't read it unless you have a particular key/passphrase
>>54714610
>isnt that what a password is for?
Are you lost, newfriend?
legal penalties for failing to comply with a search warrant are often several magnitudes of order less severe than complying and being caught with illegal material
>>54714610
if you think your OS account password protects your data in any way, you're sorely mistaken
>>54714674
isnt that what thats for though? so some run of the mill dude who steals your lappy doesnt get all your shit?
>>54714690
shit really? thats news to me. Im new, im lurking hard as hell, and I dont mind asking silly questions in order to get some answers. Thanks
>>54706840
That dutch police has nice phat ass.
>>54714660
ah I see, thanks. I'm gunna do some reading about it, seems interesting. Also thanks for teaching me a new word.
obligatory.
>>54714708
your OS password will only refuse regular entry into an account, that's it. your files are all there on the disk, just like any other file
if one were to clear your account password or remove the disk from the machine, your files can be read easily
account passwords only really matter from a security standpoint over a network, where one has no physical access to the machine (and therefore can only access the machine via an account on it)
encryption protects the physical machine, by obfuscating the data in such a way that the password is used to "unscramble" the users' data, and only that specific password will work, so resetting it won't help, nor will removing the disk
>>54714737
WrenchOfWisdom.png
>>54706770
i would let her take away my wizard status
>>54709923
They could find your shit
>>54709277
Good luck proving it was broken with the intent of obstruction and not simply an accident.
>>54714763
>>54714708
>>54714728
oh yea, incase you're wondering why encryption isn't default everywhere, there's a couple good reasons for it
1. performance, encryption/decryption takes resources, and not all data needs to be secure, so encryption "public" data might just be wasteful
2. if you forget the encryption key/password, you're FUCKED (no way to recover your data without that password), and the average user forgets their password routinely, imagine if you encrypt your mum's hdd, and she forgets her password... yea, bad idea
>>54714763
I see, that makes sense now. Thanks for explaining the difference between being able to physically access the files and remotely.
>>54714799
yeah, dealing with moms computing needs is already hilarious....files stacked on top of eachother on her desktop (its a mac so for some reason this is possible?) I delete one...then there was another...and another...highlighted them all...checked to see how many files...over 5000 images just stashed in a corner.
>>54714610
>>54714690
>>54714700
I think this is the perfect example of how to counter nothingtohidefags and people who equate encryption with terrorism. Pop in a live distro and start messing around with their shit and I bet they might change their tune.
>>54706770
I would eat the shit from her asshole with a rusty spoon.
>>54708238
i do
>>54708677
yes i am have dns problems am in aus too. the last few weeks actually.
could not download a file from security repos unless i was connected through VPN. fucking weird.
>>54709518
simple and effective
>>54709502
If you run a business, even a small one, you need to encrypt anything that handles communication or other people's information. Unless a person who's trusted you with confidential information doesn't mind it being public, you should probably encrypt just for the sake of protecting their information.
I don't really encrypt much, but all user information is always protected to the best of my ability.
They can't throw you in jail for even longer for the things that are encrypted
>>54706770
Some secrets are worth the sacrifice.
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