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What did 3dmark mean by this?
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>>54703271
It means is anyone bought the titan they've been shagged from the back
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>>54703271
1070 is finished.

Polaris 10 competes with 1070 for sure now.

Polaris 11 will be better than 980 and close to Fury and be around $150-200.
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>>54703444
Titan buyers were already cucked by the 980ti and fury. Crossfire is a meme anyway
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>>54703477
Whoops misread. Thats CF for first one.

The 480 Polaris 10 is still in a good position if its around $250 or so

The polaris 11 will probably be around $170 and around 390 tier.
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>>54703271
Wow... So this is the power... of AMD...

Seriously I'm hype as fuck for Zen and Vega now.
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IT'S OVER, AYYMD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT
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>weaker than the failure that is Fury X

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
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>AYYMAD 2 GPUS SLOWER THAN NVIDIA SINGLE GPU

AYYMDPOORFAGS CONFIRMED ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>54703554
> ~$300 card is weaker than a $650
what a surprise
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>>54703554
It's low-mid tier you double nigger
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DELETE THIS

IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR

I JUST PREORDERED 2 GTX 1080 TODAY

I HAD TO SAVE UP 3 MONTHS WORTH OF PAYCHECKS FOR THEM
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>>54703271
I want to believe.
Then I saw CF. Oh well, that's more than I expected. It better be less than $300.
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First white bar is CF, that's 2 GPUs you dumbass AMDPOORFAGS
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>>54703271
apology for poor english

when were you when 1070 dies

i was sat on /g/ making the shitposts and depositing the rupees when prabhjeeth ring

'1070 is kill'

'no'
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Will their high end Vega cards come out this year or next?
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>>54703627
This year, AMD pushed them forward to October.
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>>54703576
It's a 390x replacement. That means it'll cost around $400.

Polaris is a complete and total failure. There are no incentives for existing owners to upgrade nor any reason for new buyers to choose it over the inevitably cheaper 300 series.
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>>54703554
Its actually better than Fury X's best with same CPU.

I'd assume with better CPU, the score will increase further and with better overclock, this should be an equal increase.
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>>54703271
That's pretty neat. Looking at the huge merge on AMDGPU for Polaris makes me want to buy it just to get rid of my 970. If it's less than $300, then I'll buy.
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>>54703662
Its a 380x replacement nigger. Thats why it will be the 480..
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>>54703662
>mainstream means $400
Are you retarded?
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>>54703704
forgot the pics

>>54703662
Possibly, but I doubt it would cost more than $350 MAX. Reasonable assumption is, this would be $300. With lows being $250.
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Keep in mind, this is the 480x sku, not the 490/x

For the 80 to bump right up next to fury, that's a pretty nice little improvement. I expect 490/x will be at least up there with fury X, if not 980ti
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>>54703662
It's confirmed to be the 380x replacement so will probably be priced at $300. The 390/x will be Vega 10 and the fury 2 will be Vega 11, both coming in October.
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>>54703709
Why would it be under $300?

When was the last time a competing amd product was substantially cheaper than the alternative? Amd already said they don't want to be seen as the cheaper brand.
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>>54703271
>$400 Polaris
>can't even beat a $400 1070 UNLESS YOU BUY TWO OF THEM
AMD IS DONE
1070 GETS HIGHER THAN A TITAN X WITH THE SAME BENCHMARK
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>>54703742
not even the x sku. They said that this is the ~2300 sp part, where there is a ~2500 sp part too. I bet the 2500 part will be faster than fury x, close to 980ti
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>>54703615

I don't think anyone has denied that.
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>>54703761
R9 380X msrp $229
R9 280X msrp $299
7870 HD msrp $260
6879 GD msrp $240

This is a 380X replacement. So it will be 480/X. The price will less than $300 almost guaranteed given their pricing history.
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>>54703271
if this graph is true and they price it <300, then nvidia will have a serious problem on mainstream market.
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>>54703662
>It's a 390X replacement
How much denial do you have to be in? Do you know what Vega is or how numbers work? Is the GTX 1080 a 970 replacement?
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>>54703822
It has to be closer to 200, otherwise there's no real reason to upgrade outside of power efficiency, which hasn't been a real selling point prior. The 470 isn't even going to have that though, since 950s that run on epci power alone exist. I dunno why you guys think this looks good, it's the same old same old generational increase despite a new node.
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>>54703732
From the first result.

The new 480 is stronger than Fury X in graphics, but weaker in physics.
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>>54703554
This is really good bait, I thought I would tell you.
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>>54703865
Vega is the 490X replacement, and it will get murdered by the 1080 Ti. AMD will try to charge $650 for Vega again, but Nvidia will almost certainly launch the 1080 Ti at the same price point. Combined with the overclocking ability of the Pascal architecture, the 1080 Ti will not only beat a Vega 10 at stock speed, but leave it for dead with a 20% overclock.
There isn't a single price bracket in which AMD can compete in. Nvidia has all corners on lockdown.

Polaris 10 will get creamed by the 1070
Polaris 11 will get dominated by the 1060
Vega 10 will get fucked by the 1080 Ti
Vega 11 is pre-fucked and bull-prepped for the 1080
AMD can't recover from this. No one will want to buy their shitty products.
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>>54703777
That's a difference of 8,7%.

18060 * 1,087 = 19631, which would put it just above a Fury-X. Only the 480X will have worse memory bandwidth. It can't even match a 980TI.

The 1070 will be in the same price range and comfortably outperform both the Fury-X and the 980TI.

AMD are finished.
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>>54703892
Fury sells for about $500 on amazon.

If this thing even cost $300, it would still be a good buy over whatever's is in the same $300 category(390/970). Its even better than 980/390X and seems to match or beat fury X from >>54703893 and >>54703732 results (under same locked CPU)
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>>54703774
Polaris 10 is <$300
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>>54703928
Can you provide me some winning lottery numbers?
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>>54703928
Oh shit, I responded to the wrong person. That post wasn't mean for you.
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If they can achieve Fury X performance at base clocks with sub $300 price point, its a win.
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>>54703777
>>54703934
There is no SKU with higher than what we see here. It's been confirmed with all leaks. That 2500 SP unit was just a rumor that started back when people thought Polaris 10 was going to replace the Fury X.
The 480X is forever a GIMPED. 1070 all the way, baby. AMDead
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>>54703954
A day after Polaris 10 launches, nvidia lowers 1080 to $500, 1070 to $350.

kek
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>>54703934
>The 1070 will be in the same price range and comfortably outperform both the Fury-X and the 980TI
>$380 vs $249 cards in the same price range
??
the 380x launched at $220. so many uninformed nvidiadrones in this thread.
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>>54703994
Polaris 10 isn't even meant to compete with the 1070. Its meant to replace the 380 and the 380x.
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>>54704020
And those are based off of the 285, which was supposed to compete with the 770. The 480X is the 1070's natural competitor. And it's an utter failure at that.
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>>54704038
No you fucking retard, the 490 will be competing with the 1070, just like the 390 is now. The 480/x is sub $300, the 1070 is $370.
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>>54703477
What is the price of Polaris 10 do you think?
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>>54703271
I've always wanted a gpu too good for 1080p but not good enough for 1440p. Thanks AMD.
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Nvidiot grief status: DENIAL
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>>54704065
The 490 will "compete" with the 1080 (although it will fail because of Pascal being able to overclock its balls off, whereas GCN can't).
The 480 will "compete" with the 1070
The 470 will "compete" with the 1060
None of AMD's cards can beat their Pascal rivals. That is a fact.
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>>54704111
None of those cards has been released. Stop spouting bullshit.
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>>54704111
You are actually retarded. That's literally just false. You are comparing cards in completely different price ranges.
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>>54704092

If it costs any more than $250, it's fucked desu. 1070 will cost $380 and it's better by a substantial margin.
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>>54704129
Stop falling for a retard troll.
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>>54704111
Jen-Hsun pls go
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>>54703271
>The 67DF:C4 is probably the 480, which costs less than 300 USD, is just below 390X

This is my next GPU.
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ITS OVER NBROS
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>>54704152
AMDRoy, pls go
I can't believe you and your crooked executives want to charge $340 for a shitty 480X that can't even compete in the same league as a 1070, which is only $50 more.
You should be ashamed of your goddamn selves.
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>>54703983
I wonder if they're writing off Fiji or still trying to scavenge some sales out of it. If it's the latter it will definitely be around $400, with Fiji still being the "king." (Despite the upcoming $379 1070)

Tonga, which belongs to the $200 bracket is still relatively new and I don't think they will cannibalize both their 380/390 sales with Polaris. The logical answer is that Polaris will be replacing the Hawaii (4 years old now) pricing bracket at sub $400.
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>>54704140
There are no 1070 benchmarks. The 1080 is barely about 15% better than 980ti OC.

1070 will be 980ti OC or bit worse.

The 480 (not 480x) is the what this benchmark shows and given that its equal to Fury with locked cpu and not even OC'd, this will be a much better value for the price. If this is $250, then thats practically a killer steal.
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>470 isn't competing with 1060
How much is this card going to cost then? How bottom of the barrel is it going to be? Sub 950?
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>>54704182
Likely a write off in the gaming market. Too expensive to make.
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When do these cards even release? At the end of the year or what? If so, I'm not waiting for it. I need a 200 or under card in June.
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>>54704203
It IS competing with the 1060, you dunce.
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>>54704203
470 will be the 1050 competitor, just like the 370 was the 750ti/950 competitor.
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>>54704203
370 competes with 950
380 competes with 960
390 competes with 970
390X competes with 980
FuryX competes with 980ti

Historically, the x80 range has been priced around $220-$229

If this is the case, then the card will fall within this range.
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>>54703271
>Crossfire Poolaris doesn't even beat the 1080
This is embarassing
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>>54704216
One month, IIRC.
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>>54704234
this right here, stop replying to "trolls" hoping for a good price
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>>54704234
>hey rajeet let's release a card with near fury x performance for $220 and kill all our existing cards!
>wow great idea Pajeet! Nvidia is truly finished!
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>>54704234
You idiot
The 300 series fucked with the line-up because all the cards were rebrands and it made no sense to call a 290X a 380X even though they should have.
This is how AMD intends the numbering to work
>R9 X90/X = GTX X80/Ti
>R9 X80/X = GTX X70
>R9 X70/X = GTX X60/Ti
>R7 X60/X = GTX X50/Ti
Do you see the correlation? Or is your AMD-addled brain too dumb to add two numbers together?
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>>54704107
Do you not see the "CF", idiot? 2x300$ cards = 1x400$ card.

AMD just got fucked. Massively.
Those tears at the release... So much salt...
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>>54704273
>This is how AMD intends the numbering to work
{Citation needed}
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>>54704273
Why would AMD release 290X as 380? It would make no sense given 290X competes and beats 970 sometimes. The 390 trashes 980 on DX12 titles too.
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>>54704273
>This is how AMD intends the numbering to work
this is how you wish the cards competed but their pricing says otherwise. flaming is grounds for a ban on /g/ right?
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>>54704129
>>54704138
>NO!! YOU'RE WRONG!! NO!! MY PRECIOUS AMD!!
What about the added cost of a fire extinguisher when you buy an AMD card? Ever taken that into consideration?
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>>54704295
>>54704297
>short-term memory induced by swallowing too much AMDrone spunk
Look back when the 200 series card launched and you'll have your answers, you fucking brain-dead maggots
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>>54704312
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>>54704323
>makes claim
>wants others to find proof for him
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> /g/ always says that AMD will be cheap as fuck
> cards come out
> they cost just as much as nvidia if not more everytime

please fuck off all I dont believe any of your stupid fantasies anymore
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>>54704307
>Prease MOD-senpai!! Ban these truthtellers!! They're destroying my safe space, AMD hugbox!!
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>>54704333
He's right.
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>>54704312
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>>54704333
>makes STATEMENT from AMD's own marketing department
>you can't be assed to Google it, or are in denial that you don't want to
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>>54704273
Going by the current offerings it's more like:

>R9 490X = GTX 1080
>R9 490 = GTX 1070
>R9 480X =
>R9 480 = GTX 1060
>R9 470 = GTX 1050

Then you have the Fury or Nano with no direct Nvidia equivalent and the Fury-X with the GTX 980TI.

And if you look at Directx 12 benchmarks you can bump every non-Fury AMD card up by two tiers.
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Welp, i think nvidia is finished after Pascuck flop.
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>>54703662
uh no, it should be within r9 380/x pricebracket
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>>54704426
Kek look at the fury's on the bottom
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>>54704398
See the "CF" idiot. You need to buy two (quite possibly more) of those to get a similar performance.
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literally dead inside
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>all this novidia butthurt ITT
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>>54704426
Those are overclocked, faggot. See the perf difference in 980 and 780ti to see how it really works.
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>>54704426
Jesus christ 1080 owners got cucked by nvidia. AGAIN.

KEK
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>>54704440
lol'ed

Vega = 1080
Polaris 10 = 1070
Polaris 11 = 1060 etc
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>>54704453
>AMDrone's faces when they realize it takes ~$600-700 just to beat a $400 1070
Loving Every Laugh
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>>54704461
>Those are overclocked
Whats your point even?
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>>54704461
>gimp the 780ti to shit
>look how great Maxwell is goy
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>>54704465
>>54704453
>mfw AMD finally releases 1080 teir card in 2020
Stock up on smoke detectors
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NVIDIA WON

FASTER THAN 2 POOLARIS AND CHEAPER
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>>54704474
>poolaris is 1070

Did you take a look at the pic in op?

Poolaris will be in between 980 and the fury.

1070 will be at 980ti
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>>54704482
>le gimp meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvCsT_dk-1E
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>>54704474
There's Vega 10 and Vega 11. 1080 and 1070 probably.

Or the Vega 10 might be the Fury replacement and 11 the 490/X variant to compete with 1070/80.
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>>54704480
That the 1080 is stock and the others are aftermaket OC versions. AMD cunts are really dumb. Admit it, you lost this round.

If Hitler had your rigs for ovens, there would be no Jews alive today.
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>>54704505
>1070 will be at 980ti
No. 1080 is 980Ti. 1070 is 980.
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>>54704491
We don't even have to wait that long. OP's picture pretty much made their noose for them. They'll hang themselves once they see that it takes two $300 Polaris 10 cards to match a $400 GTX 1070 and suffer through all the problems and latency issues that Crossfire inherently suffers from by using the PCIe bus to transfer data between cards. And that's not even mentioning how little support Crossfire will get in the future, judging today's support for it.
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>>54704505
Yeah my mistake

Nothing v 1080 ti
Vega v 1080
Gimped Vega v 1070/980 ti
Polaris 10 v 980 390x
etc
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>>54704518
And that comes out in October. When NVidia will have released the Ti. AMD always one step behind.
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>>54704527
That's 980ti OC versus 1080 non OC

The fact that you are even showing that chart already reveals how disingenuous you are
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*read this with a gay lisp*
>oh it's so power efficient
>oh it's so small
>oh look it doesn't even have a pcie cable connector it gets all it's power from the mobo slot how cute

I'm expecting to be very triggered by amdfags in the coming weeks.
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>>54704444
Because we won't get the 490/X cards until October.

If the 480X can compete with the 1070 it'll fighting above its weight class.
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>>54704547
But 1080 cant keep decent OK due to high temperatures. Its just throttles. Maybe non-reference cards can, we will see.
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>>54704555
>a single $400 card is more powerful than two ~$300 cards paired together
Gee, obvious choice there, huh?
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>mfw nvidia paper launches the 1080
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>>54703271
Where is the 1070?
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>>54704540
>October
Just in time for the backtoschool?

>June/July
Just in time for summer break?

>March
Just in time for spring break?

>Dec
Just in time for Christmas?
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>>54704555
Did you not read the CF? It's Crossfire, dumbfuck.

And NVidia will come out with the 1080ti or new Titan then. Face it, AMD hasn't even been able to beat years old Titan X yet.
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>>54703271
Based on the data so far
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Based AMD. Now i can finally upgrade from my IGPU.
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>>54704574
>But 1080 cant keep decent OK due to high temperatures. Its just throttles
Oh let me guess, you watched Adoredtv's video.

That guy always cherrypicks the shit that makes Nvidia look the worst and AMD the best.

Here is a video of a guy who OC'd the 1080 and kept it stable for 2 hours of gaming at 2000 mhz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm6kiLG1dTw

I specifically asked him if he tested in inside a case and he said he tests all his cards in a case, and even gave me the specific case.
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>>54704598
Oops, sorry. Replied to wrong post.
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>>54704606
>Based AMD
>"I'm so happy to overpay for a card that can't even beat the GTX 1070 when Crossfired at 1.5 times the cost
AMDrones, everybody
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>>54704624
He was joking you idiot.

He talks about upgrading his IGPU, to make fun of how weak the AMD graphics cards are
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>>54704602
Worse than 980. lmaoing at your life
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>>54704338
That's why all benchmark threads should be ignored until prices are announced and confirmed. Nothing matters until you know how much it's going to cost. Price estimates from nothing but bullshit speculation are always grossly underestimated. The shock from the 1080 price was hilarious, as if people seriously thought it was going to be reasonable, and the same will happen with Polaris.
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>>54704633
No im not. Im not falling for nvidia marketing jew.
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>>54704648
You decide to get Jewed by AMD instead for a markedly inferior product and worse ownership experience?
Double-kuck'd
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>>54704648
Nah, you're joking
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>>54704607
I totally believe you.
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>>54704672
That's literally the cherrypicked benchmark I talked about

Why aren't more people reporting the thermal throttling?

>MUH CONSPIRACY
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>>54704670
>>54704671
>those instant replies
Nvidiots really are on suicide watch!
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>>54704598
The Titan X is one year old you fucking autist.
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>>54704692
You're still on an IGPU, that's pretty shite kek
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Fury performance for $300? Pretty gud desu.
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>>54704688
>Why aren't more people reporting the thermal throttling?
Because they don't check this shit? Also that benchmark is the most advanced bench of 1080 that ive seen so far.
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>>54704692
Nah, we're just laughing at the insanely cultish behavior and lack of common sense that AMDrones display, even when met with facts that show AMD is screwing the pooch yet again
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>>54704688
>paid trip and expenses
>free card
geez, i wonder why
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>>54704111
>pascal
>overclocking
HAHAHAHAHAHAA
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>>54704709
>Because they don't check this shit?
They do you mouthbreathing mongoloid

You are literally brainwashed, have fun jerking off over your one cherrypicked benchmark
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>>54704551
The only one that should do that is the 470 and that's apparently competing with the 950 that already does that. Seems both sides will be singing that tune, not that anyone here would care about that card class...
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>>54704038
And you base that on what exactly?
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>>54704291
THE 1080 COSTS $400 NOW? PLEASE SHOW ME WHERE
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>>54704703
>Autist calls me an autist
I said it was years old, you cunt. I didn't specify the amount.
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>>54704712
That's techspot, I didn't post a video of techspot
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>>54703582
AMDcucks sure can't read.
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>>54704710
>someone happy for new great product
>NO ITS SHIT STOP LIKING IT AMD CUK KILLY OURSELF
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>>54704530
>250€ Polaris 10 will offer 95% performance of 500€ GTX 1070
Gee, I wonder which card I should buy.
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>>54704723
>open bench vs closed bench
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>>54704723
So mad
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>>54704723
>no argument
I knew it. Enjoy your OC 980Ti level performance for 700$
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>>54704756
I just told you, hardwareunboxed tests in a close case retard.

Funny thing is what you don't even realize is that a well ventilated case will actualy cause a card to run cooler than an open bench.

Do you even physics
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>>54704741
"Years" means 2 years or more. Autismo pls go.
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>>54704749
Two poolaris you idiot. Can't you see the CF?
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>>54704771
You have no argument, you compare Oc'd cards to non oc'd cards, so your argument is null and void.

Stay mad
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Will the 1070 be 7.5gb?
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>>54704291
>400$
Excuse me, cunt?
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>>54704749
You're delusional
TWO 480X's can deliver 100% of the 1070's performance...
AT 150% OF THE COST
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>>54704775
I totally will believe some literally who youtuber than competent website that does honest through reviews for ages.
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>>54704743
Yes, the 1080 is the fastest card there is no denying that but because of it, many reviewers becomes blind. They seems cannot see the flaw of the card at all for example techspot.
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>>54704783
What does the CF score have to do with anything? The 1070 will be around a 980TI in performance, you delusional Nvidicuck.

AMD are going to offer 95% of 1070 performance at 50% the price. Nvidia is finished and bankrupt.
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>>54704775
>Funny thing is what you don't even realize is that a well ventilated case will actualy cause a card to run cooler than an open bench.
Nice meme
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>>54704602
Likely prices
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>>54704795
No. Nice meme though

>>54704799
Oh sorry. $379
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The polaris gpu has 2,304 cores on that benchmark score.

If you scale that up to 4,096 (vega) alone, obviating the added hbm2 memory or arch improvements, you get 32,146
This is before driver optimizations also.

GTX 1080 confirmed dead in october.
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>NVIDIA IS DED
It is bad though because we need some competition.
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>>54704830
>What does the CF score have to do with anything?
Being this retarded

AMD will only get to a 1080-teir performance in October. That's when NVidia will release the Ti or new Titan and lower the costs of 1070 and 1080.

I'd say AMD is bye-bye. No more PC explosions.
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>>54703994
And everyone wins, except cucks who already pre-ordered their 1080s
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>>54704867
So you're saying those who buy 1080/1070 now are going to get cucked in just 5 months?
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>>54704867
No that anon but desu i only care about good performance per money at around price of 250-300 max. AMD will literally have no competition there.
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>>54704867
>That's when NVidia will release the Ti or new Titan

More like, next year.
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1080 cant even run Crysis at 30 FPS. No thanks, ill wait for Vega.
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>>54704867
Your mother obviously dropped you on your head as a baby one too many times.

The 1070 will be barely any faster than the 480X but it'll cost almost twice as much.
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It's been a while since Nvidiots have been this BTFO. This is great.
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So much misinformation ITT. For the retarded folk, Polaris is mainstream GPUs, they never intended to compete with the highest end. This has been known since last year you fucking slowpokes. Vega is the buffed up Polaris with HBM2. That is not only the enthusiast line but possibly the 490 line with small Vega. Fuck, I'm getting a headache just reading this thread, identity politics has never been fun, I don't know how you guys keep going.
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>>54704607
>those OC gains
LUL
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>>54704910
>4k
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>>54704957
>who are you quoting
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>>54704950
Vega is still the same chip as Polaris but with HMB2? That won't give it much gains will it?
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>>54704953
Pascal really is shrunk Maxwell at higher clocks. Is it the return of Fermi? Can we flip the housefire memes again? AMD actually has drivers now.
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>>54704853
Alright, multiply the 1080's score by 1.45 and see what you get then :^)
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>>54704969
Look at the bottom of the image.
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>>54704969
That graph obviously.
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Aside from the confusion of the 300 series, although, the 390 is catching up to the 980's performance, and the 380, is catching up to the 970's peformance:
490x vs 1080ti
490 vs 1080
480x vs nothing
480 vs 1070
470x vs 1060ti
470 vs 1060
And in a year or so from now, the 300 series will probably be giving the 1000 series a run, and the 400 series will be giving the 1100 (or 1200) series a run.
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>>54704978
>around 2500 cores vs 4096 cores
That'd be a huge jump.
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>>54704607
Are you implying that the website lied about clocks on all of the tested games in their review? And that some youtube dudebro totally OC'd it to 2000 and played for hours? Are you fucking serious?
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>>54704993
>the 300 series will probably be giving the 1000 series a run,

naw, AMD will drop support by then.
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>>54704995
Double performance roughly then? So equivalent of about two 980's? Or around one 1080?
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>>54705007
GCN is safe. Maybe they won't focus on anything that isn't new stuff in Linux however.
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>>54705001
Dudebro gets paid to make youtube video.
Pooinloo gets paid to spread it on social media.
that's how marketing works in the 21st cenutry
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I'm waiting for AMD to release their shitty cards, so Nvidia drops their prices and I collect a 1080. Fuck AMD and fuck their retarded consumerbase.
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>>54705035
>says the Nvidrone
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>>54704995
A <1000 CUDA core jump between the GTX 1080 and the next Titan is no slouch either, plus Pascal can actually overclock
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>nvidia face when Polaris
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>>54705035
I don't see why they would drop their prices really. The AMD cards are so far below what they are offering that it probably won't impact their market at all.
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>>54703647
>citation needed
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>>54704910
>2 FPS ahead of 980Ti
NEW KANG!
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>>54704993
The 1060ti would presumably be better than the 970, but going by OP pic that would put it in competition with the 480, so the 470x and 470 brackets don't make sense. Maybe if there's no 1060ti, but then that would put the two 470/1060 in 970 range, or they're not better than current offerings, which they clearly are not. Doesn't work.
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>>54705055
>pascal can actually overclock
>can barely sustain 4 minutes of gaming without throttling and hitting 100+ C

K E K
E
K
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>little girl = AMD
>Guile = Nvidia
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>>54704982
vega is gonna be $600 max.

1080ti is gonna be $1000 at least.
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>>54705046
>says the Nvidrone
Not even close. Nvidia release the fastest cards, AMD can't keep up with Nvidia anyway. But if you're a poorfag then AMD is an option, doesn't mean you should deny reality and keep up the charade that any of the AMD-cards can compete with Nvidia's
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>>54704200
you also have to take into account that better chips over a GPUs life time, compare the Zotac AMP 980ti with the original one, a solid 12 percent increase.

And seems like the FF version of 1080 has thermal issues so we can probably expect similar increases with custom coolers.
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Why should I care? It isn't Vega and I already have a 390 that performs like 290x,atleast now I know my GPU has mainstream performance in 2017-2018.
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>didn't invest in 10000 shares when they were at 1.6
I should just kill myself. I knew it would rise, but I'm a pussy and didn't go for it due to it being almost half my assets. This is why I fail.
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>>54705188
Sold it when it peaked at $4.00 last month
Made so much dosh
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>>54703794
I'll contest it.

CrossfireX scaling is only 70% in this test. AMD's multi GPU has never been that terrible, that's Nvidia Kepler level of crossfire awfulness.

I would believe this chart if the CF performance was ~30-32K
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>>54704835
updated.
I want to put 1060 but there is not much info of it.
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>>54705130
>any of the cards can compete
Jesus Christ nvidiots are fucking indoctrinated
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>>54703271
These are great news, if the 480x scores 18000 then the 490x will score 25000, almost the same performance for a 400 dollar card. Since the performance difference between the 380x and 390x is 1.4x then 490x will be 18000x1.4

This also means that any vega card will be better than the 1080.

/thread
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>>54705188
I thought of doing that too,oh well there will be more opportunities to come.
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>>54705231
changed the price based on marketing 101
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>>54705130
Read the OP's post faggot.
You're in denial.
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So if this thing launches around $250 is there any reason left to buy the 1070? Serious question.
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>>54705304
>crossfire
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>>54705313
Yes
>two cards for over $500 to beat a single $400 card
You're getting fucked in the ass and you don't even realize it
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>>54705313

It will get much better performance on Gimpworks™ games
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>>54705313
1070 will be around 10-15% better than this. But around 50% more expensive.

kek
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>>54703271

I want (need) a new GPU so badly... Been a waitfag since October and it hurts.
And the worst thing is that Sapphire won't release cards till July earliest. Live is to suffer.
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>>54705313
If you like supporting gameworks and day 1 working drivers? Nvidia is running out of things to one up AMD on with AMD closing the gap so much,power consumption and power draw isn't argument point anymore as is form factor for cards.
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>>54704234
>historically
Historically, the x8xx segment were and always have been $250-350, Tonga is just a lucky byproduct of Apple tthrowaways/production overruns. You do remember, being so keen on the timelines, that full Tonga was delayed to consumer market because Apple contracted out almost all of the initial production for 8+ months, right?
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>no shadowplay equivalent
>runs hotter, louder and consumes more power (i live on a place where electricity costs are insane)
>no conversion to analog signal so i can't use my secondary monitor with VGA input
>*Drivers
(Since I've never used an AMD card i can't comment on this, but with so many memes about their drivers, i'm kinda worried about this)

I seriously want to have an AMD card, i really do, i hate Jewvidia as much as anyone else, but as long as they don't solve these issues i can't buy anything from them.
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>>54705538
>no shadowplay equivalent
stop memeing
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>>54705538
drivers were back in the days, since crimson they are fucking good. Nvidia slumps with its drivers the last few months....

also a 980 also gonna consume 350w+ on heavy games... nvidia lies with thier tdp, amd doesn´t
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>>54705095
Guile is a child rapist?
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>>54705538
>no shadowplay equivalent
Play.tv/raptr
>runs hotter, louder and consumes more power
varies between gpus,loud doesnt matter unless it's coilwhine and power consumptions isn't a problem anymore,it wasn't never a problem in the first place unless your PSU was shit.

You've never own a AMD product and have no idea wtf you are talking about,please stop posting before embarrassing yourself and your pride.
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>>54705538
The Gaming Evolved client is pretty decent. Integrated twitch streaming and GVR, and neither have much of a GPU overhead hit.

Current gen runs hotter and eats more power, but not by as much as the memes suggest. Polaris and Vega are going to be at or better than nVidia equivalents because Pascal is Maxwell+ with a die shrink. Pascal will likely OC like a beast once board partners start releasing their cards without a shitty reference cooler, but AMD board partners could do much the same given the general OC ability of the 14/16nm nodes.

Use an active DP converter.

Crimson is a fucking beast.
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>>54705736
going back to loadness that was only a problem with reference coolers which most people don't buy.
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>>54703587
keep in mind, cf scales 80-90%, this from rough math in my head is barely 50% so either a profile isn't there, or the even better case, a driver to properly run it isn't there.

these could be un properly utilized benches.
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>>54705736
>missed drivers
drivers are true but only for specific new released games but not like nvidia doesn't have that either if they aren't supporting the game themselves
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>>54705781
cf is a mess
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>>54705670
>also a 980 also gonna consume 350w+ on heavy games
A GTX980 doesn't consume more than 180w on heavy load scenarios. Nice meme

>>54705736
>Play.tv/raptr
Gonna check it out
>loud doesnt matter unless it's coilwhine and power consumptions isn't a problem anymore

It matters to me, i have a semi-silent system and i certainly don't want a jet engine on my case.
>You've never own a AMD product and have no idea wtf you are talking about,please stop posting before embarrassing yourself and your pride
I actually had an Ati HD4850 for a brief period of time before i sold it since that piece of shit reached 100c with almost any game.
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>>54705865
no, cf is better than sli at this point, however profiles are something that are usually an afterthought.
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>>54705865
Thats something to look into, possibly driver issues. CF usually has much better scaling, near 90-100%. So we'll see where the future benchmark lies.
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>>54705758
>Use an active DP converter.

Intothetrash.jpeg
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>>54705359
How do you make a trademark sign senpai?
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>>54705538
>no shadowplay equivalent
Plays.tv is actually pretty good, when I don't feel like starting up OBS
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>>54704002
the 280 and 280x were 250 and 300 with the 285 comeing in at 280-320 at launch, then rebranded to the 380 and 380x which were 200 and 230 at launch

its reasonable to assume the 480 and 480x are in the 300$ range,
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>>54705538
>runs hotter, louder and consumes more power (i live on a place where electricity costs are insane)

kek. What do you do? Run furmark and mine bitcoins all day? Even if you run your pc in a fucking expensive country on a full load for 4 hours _every_ day the cost wont be more than $30 a year over the equivalent nVidia. What country do you live in?
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>>54706014
1070 launches at $450 and will remain in the $400 range for the foreseeable future.
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>>54706158
probably higher as its a paperlaunch and all the stock will be bought causing retailers to inflate prices till demand = supply.
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>>54706158
>Prices were estimated to be extremely appealing to all types of gamers, with Nvidia confirming the US prices for the GTX 1080 in the US starting $599 (~£492 incl. VAT) for the regular GTX 1080 and $699 (~£576 incl. VAT) for the Founders Edition. The GTX 1070 has an MSRP of $379 (~£312 incl. VAT) for the regular version and $449 (~£372 incl. VAT) for the Founders Edition.
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I want to sell my 980 Ti's and get a single card like maybe the 1070. It seems like fun being a poorfag.
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>>54706158
In the us at best. 1080 costs ~780€+ across europe.
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>>54706199
the founders edition is the regular you retard
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>>54706206
might as well.
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>>54706217
That's about $730 without sales tax
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>GTX1070 = 450$
>R9 480 = 300$
>same performance
NVIDIOTS ON SUICIDE WATCH!!!
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>>54706239
>The GTX 1070 has an MSRP of $379 (~£312 incl. VAT) for the regular version and $449 (~£372 incl. VAT) for the Founders Edition.
>$379 for the regular version
>$449 for the Founders Edition

Nice try kiddo. :^)
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>>54706313
What chart are you looking at?
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>>54706313
>GTX 1070 is 30+% faster across the board
>needs two 480Xs (not 480) to be as fast
>for $200 more
I don't think so Tim
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>>54706313
We should probably just remove that CF bench from the top. Some people seem to be highly confused by it.
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>>54706338
OP.
>>54706339
Keep dreaming. 1070 is 980 lvl performance.
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>All these cards coming out.
>Card died so I needed to upgrade.
>Was about to buy a 390X.
>Now the 1070 and 490X are coming.
>Don't know what to do.

I haven't been this confused in years. My card died at the WRONG TIME.
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>>54706319
Founders edition = reference design
Other models = custom models from 3rd party manufacturers
Prices of 3rd party models = set by manufacturers, not Nvidia
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>>54704842
try again
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