PCs Aren't Dying. They're Just Way Overpriced.
>worldwide PC shipments down 13 percent in the first quarter
>cost of truly gaming-changing laptops is still too damn high
>among laptops
>sales of sub-$300 systems grew by a healthy 19%
>sales of premium laptops with prices over $700 shrank by a modest 4 percent
>between $300 and $700 fell by a remarkable 19 percent
>The reason midrange laptops are doing so poorly is that most of them aren't appreciably better than the old models they're meant to replace
>Every laptop over $300 should have a 1920 x 1080 screen and a solid-state drive
>telling people that they can now get a 6th-gen Core i5 to replace their 2nd-gen Core i5 is not going to cut it
http://www.laptopmag.com/articles/laptops-too-expensive
>>54701680
>Every laptop over $300 should have a 1920 x 1080 screen and a solid-state drive
I think $300 is a bit cheap for having the both of those, but yeah I shouldn't have to pay over a fucking grand to get a 1080p screen.
>>54701767
While ssd is a meme its difficult to get decent battery life without one.
I guess i could tolerate a sketchy ssd if i had an external hdd and a script to make daily backups for me.
>>54701816
>difficult to get decent battery life without one
What's even considered a decent battery life these days? I've always got a plug nearby when I use my laptop so anything more than like 20 minutes is good enough for me.
>>54701680
This. I'm looking for something to replace my 4, almost 5, year old laptop. But it's just not worth the upgrade.
>>54701993
if you americunt and keep watchful eye on sales
>dell xps 13
>13.3-inch Full HD display
>Intel Core i5-6200U
>8GB memory/128GB SSD
$635
https://www.reddit.com/r/Dell/comments/4acv1b/microsoft_store_sale_xps_13_9350_hd_nontouch_i5/
>>54701880
About 6 hours of regular use.
Some light machines like Chromebooks can get 8-14 hours on one charge.
Idle and closed, the average laptop can last 6 days, idle but with minimum screen brightness while open they can go 20 hours or so
Meanwhile my t42 with a 9 cell gets 4 hours of regular use, 9 hours idle open and 2 days closed
yet my $40 thinkpad never goes about 80% cpu usage.
huh.
Laptops have been cannibalised by smartphones as go to portable devices. The only reason you see sales of cheap as shit laptops is due to 3rd worlders and the fact that school children need something to type on.
anyone got a recommendation for a laptop that has all of these features
>i7 or better processor
>15 inch HD screen
>1tb or larger HD preferably SSD
>highest end graphics card available
>backlit keyboard
>numberpad
> integrated optical drive
>professional looking case (no spaceship looking alien bullshit)
>good battery life
>price is no object
>weight is a mild concern, but it cant be to much larger than the screen.
>>54701680
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>>54701816
>While ssd is a meme
>>54702376
Dell Precision 5000 series 15".
Basically a Business version of the Alienware 15".
Intel Xeon E3
64GB RAM
2TB HDD+ 1TB SSD
4K 15" display
Professional equivalent of the Geforce 980MX
Backlit
No Optical (fuck you its 2016, get an external for $20)
13 hours battery life with Nvidia Optimus enabled.
2.7kg, only 200g heavier than the 15" Macbook Pro
Costs like $4000
>>54702017
way too pricy for those specs man. That's exactly the problem.
>>54702455
The 5000 Series maxes out with a Quadro M1000M which is roughly equivalent to a GeForce 950M. I'm willing to admit I'm wrong if you show a source saying you can get a 980MX.
>>54701680
>Every laptop over $300 should have a 1920 x 1080 screen and a solid-state drive
I agree for the resolution, but what if I don't want this SSD cancer on my laptop then ?
>>54702564
>SSD is a meme
>>54702564
>SSD cancer
U serious nigga? Like man what planet you livin on? u wearin a fedora?
>>54702564
>SSD cancer
Nice bait, faggot.
Pic rel is you.
>>54701816
>ssd is a meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXG1C5YLkhE
>>54701880
My x220t gets 3 hours on average, which is good enough.
>>54702634
>>54701816
fallout4 loading times
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqoKUFGjFR0
>good battery life
>i5 sandy bridge or higher
>802.11n or ac
>120gb ssd
Any decent laptop with these specs? I mostly care about battery life
>>54702661
x220 with 9cell battery.
You can stick Intel 7260 AC module in it if you want.
>>54702661
Just get a x220 with a slice and unlock bios whitelist to get a better wifi
>>54702661
price range?
>>54702676
>>54702670
stop shilling third hand 6 years old thinkpads
>>54702690
This, get the XPS 13 or get the fuck out of /g/ forever.
>>54702670
also this
>>54702676
9cell battery + 6cell slice, this will give you at least 15 hours of real battery life. 25 hours if you choose x230
>>54702690
He/You asked for sandy bridge cpu you retarded nigger.
x220 is 5 years old, x230 barely 4 yo, so please contain your butthurt
>>54702455
>13 hours battery life with Nvidia Optimus enabled.
Enabled doesn't necessarily mean that the discrete card is actively being used
>>54701816
>While ssd is a meme
>buy a laptop with good specs and build quality for cheap
>the fan is loud as fuck
>>54702547
>m1000m
you mean k1000m?
>>54703752
Yes
>>54703785
doesnt even seem comparable to the 950 though really
gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-Quadro-K1000M-vs-Nvidia-GTX-950/m7800vs3510
>why people don't want replace a second i5 that could usable for another decade.
>>54701680
>PC
>laptops
>Lap top have an i5 or i7 U series CPU
Sooo.... An i3 it is
>>54703752
>>54703785
>>54704026
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-Quadro-M1000M.151582.0.html
it's a m1000m idiots
>>54702017
It's a real piece of shit though, haven't you heard about all the battery fires?
Fucking dull computer.
>>54702699
MacBook, or Dell if you are from India or China.
>>54702455
>>Costs like $4000
>$1200 on eBay from a trusted seller
Buy the 4K model and upgrade the SSD/RAM yourself, boom shakalaka
Make sure to get a TB3-USB port, you'll need it
>>54701816
SSD is anything but a meme.
Just accept that the reliability of SSDs is actually pretty good and by the time they degrade, the lifespan is irrelevant.
>>54701680
PC got stagnant due to Intel vs Intel competition.
Zen and Polaris will change that.
1000$ PC will be great again and Intel wqill have to challenge that.
Back in the day 1000$ was the price of the TOP end PC, 1000$ was what you expected to spend for the best shit on market, rather than for one GPU.
Chant polaris untul we're delivered back to greatness.
>>54702017
>128GB
ChromeOs Tier
This is all I need in the year 2016.
>>54707268
AMD Zen
Yeah, will change the Laptop coolers market
>>54702455
It cost 2.500 with max specs and without autiscit amount of ssd. Beside getting hdd will cut you feom getting 6-cell battery
>>54709107
every time I see one I can only think about how beautiful it is
>>54701680
>Mom I NEED an i7
>Mom only gave me $700 why can't I get high end parts on my gaming laptop
shit tier article
>>54701680
Newer laptops have way better performance and battery life though
>>54701767
>>Every laptop over $300 should have a 1920 x 1080 screen and a solid-state drive
that's actually true though
there's no reason to buy *any* computer made in the last 5 years without at least both
unless its a desktop replacement, every laptop should be
>under 5lbs
>1080p IPS screen or better
>7 hours of battery life or better
>have solid state storage options/availability
>>54702017
why not
>xps 13 2015
>same specs, only an i5-5200u instead of skylake
>almost exactly the same performance
>$100 less
>>54710284
I Lelterally cum buckets when it first arrived
>>54709107
THICK
>>54710411
Nah, 720p and HDD costs less. If you can't afford it then deal with it fucking poorfag.
>>54710423
BLACK
>>54702650
>this entire fucking post
retard in denial so hard
>extra weight of an x220t over x220
>still 1366x768 display
>only 3 hours of battery life
that's about as bad as computers get, son.
>good enough
if you have literally no standards, or if you got that genuinely for free, then that'd make sense
>a healthy 19%
>a modest 4%
>a remarkable 19%
Also that picture isn't true at all
>>54710432
>720p and HDD costs less
they cost less but offer essentially 0% of what's necessary for comfortable, stress free computer use
you're like my fucking retarded friend who tried to convice another friend of ours to spend $250 on a 720p television instead of $300 on a similar sized 1080p variant
it's so depricated that its not worth spending any money on; 1366x768 or below, or HDD over SSD
>>54710468
Then spend the extra on 1080p. It's not that difficult.
You'll also be getting much battery components too, so it's a win for you
>>54710497
>Then spend the extra on 1080p
I will, but that extra should be at the $300 price point.
we've had chromebooks offer this for 2 years now. There's no reason the same can't be standardized elswhere
laptops are a dying meme
>>54710519
Are you poor?
If you're poor and want 1080p, get a chromebook or tablet.
If you're not poor and you want 1080p, get a serious laptop with an i7 and ssd.
>>54710541
you dont even have a fucking point
I'm not poor and I spend $600 on a thinkpad retailing for $1000 to get an IPS display
what I'm saying, and the article is saying, is that that isn't fair and it's causing laptop manufacturers to lose sales in the midrange PC market
>hurr there is no such thing as stuff being too expensive
like holy shit
>>54710536
bad bunny
its becaus e we are using up all of the supplies to make computers
we are running out of resources and so we need to raise the prices
>2012 laptop
over 5 pounds
>2016 laptop
2.7 pounds
quit pretending specs are the only thing that dictate price in the laptop market
>>54710581
How are they losing sales?
You think a skylake laptop i3 isn't better than a first gen i3?
You think 4gb ddr4 isn't better than 4gb ddr3?
You think newer components aren't more energy efficient than 5 year old laptop components?
You're a fucking retard.
If anything, now that atoms have taken over the budget range, we should be seeing more i3 and i5 laptops gaining popularity from people who need performance on a budget.
>>54702017
13.3 is too small for 1080p to be useful
>>54702376
Now understand why /g/ is Macbook evangelist?
And you can get usb external Blu-ray drives of amazon
>>54709107
>old ass piece of shit only useful for notepad lol
Oh boy
>>54702455
>no optical
>it's 2016
So, as time passes, it's acceptable for computers to have less features for the same price?
>>54711058
Welcome to the future anon!
>>54710536
>>54710996
brah he wants 1tb+ storage, a top of the line gfx card, and he specifically said integrated disc drive
>>54711050
xD
>if it aint a Mac book it's shit
>>54701680
>2016
>32gb emmc
>>54710423
You don't know REAL THICC!
Why buy a new laptop with ports that don't support my DVI monitor when I already own an adapter that cost me $100 back in the day and my machine still performs excellently since I upgraded the RAM to 16GB and installed 2 SSDs.
I literally have no reason to upgrade which is why I also have a Surface Pro 3 64 i3 as basic computing needs.
All a normalfag really needs for computing is a decently speced smartphone and maybe a chromebook for homework assignments or doing taxes. Laptops are a dying breed considering cellphones are 10x as portable and can perform a majority of the same functions with better battery life to boot. There will always be a market for powerful business class machines, but the consumer market for laptops is officially on suicide watch.
>>54701816
You wandered into /g/ by accident, didn't you.
