Why Intel Remove Support for USB based Windows 7 Installation?
I'm building a Skylake computer and I'm trying to install windows 7 via USB.
First, I discover that Intel removed support for USB based Windows 7 installations on Skylake. Microsoft removed support for the EHCI host controller and kept only the xHCI host controller spec. While the USB 3.0 spec is backward compatible with most USB 2.0 and 1.0 functions, installing windows 7 via USB on a Skylake PC is ridiculously hard.
I tried to use the installation CD, but the mouse and keyboard are intentionally disabled and the only way to get them to work is to use the PS/2 port, which my mouse nor keyboard will plug into.
Ripping an ISO and using Rufus doesn't work either.
What a bunch of bullshit.
/rant
>not owning a mouse for the ps2 port
>>>/k/I'll yourself
Yea, I tried installing W7 through USB on my PC only to find out the mouse and keyboard wouldn't work during installation. Didn't feel it was worth the trouble and just installed 8.1
>>54696464
No, you shouldn't hate Microsoft for making it incredibly difficult to install a shitty operating system on a computer with a good processor.
Why the fuck would you want to use something old and outdated anyway?
>>54696630
NSA please go
>>54696630
So that he can upgrade to Windows 10 for free, probably.
>>54696630
So that I can upgrade to windows 10 for free
'cause intel (and apple) were funded as startups by laurance rockerfeller and that family push their agenda in chipping behavior towards modern day slavery
It's very factual and simple, nothing really outlandish and fantastic about it
>>54696464
use NTLite and include usb3.0 driver in the windows iso.
or better yet, just include all of your current pc's driver into the iso.
>>54696783
Oh and why are you buying chips beyond
Devil's canyon
Symbolism cucks enjoy the fire lake
>>54696795
I don't know how to do that
NSA botnet now on-die, iAMT / vPro.
I bought a memelake 6600(without K). Now its time for buyers remorse.
>>54696795
I have USB3 drivers slipstreamed into my install image but USB3 still never works during installation.
>>54696877
well it's rather complicated, to simply put you have to include usb3.0 driver into the installation images (both boot.wim and install.wim for windows 7).
search online tutorials for how to include drivers to install iso or ask for instruction on msfn forum.
>>54696509
so you can only install windows 8.1 and windows 1.0 on skylake with usb 3.0?
>>54696958
strange, it worked fine for me. Couldn't even install windows through usb unless I did that shit, though. Which tool do you use?
>>54696991
I use mostly Wintoolkit.
>>54696970
You can install windows 7. If you are using a CD, you'll need a mouse and a keyboard with a PS/2 port connector because the USB connection for both mouse and keyboard are intentionally disabled. If you install using a usb, you'll have to inject usb 3.0 drivers into boot.wim and install.wim
>>54696464
I just installed Win7 (installation CD) on my new build a few weeks ago with a mouse and keyboard USB. Sometimes after restarting, the keyboard and mouse wouldn't be detected but I would just restart it again and it would work.
>>54697022
well personally i prefer windows 8.1 over 7
you need to include usb 3.0 drivers for the windows 8.1 iso as well?
>>54697021
that's the problem, wintoolkit only include the driver to install.wim (which is what wlll be copied to the hard disk), not the booting OS compressed in boot.wim file (that will be performing driver setup/format and unpacking file)
try RT7-Lite next time (doesn't sure about NTLite because I'm too poor to purchase a license)
>>54697087
My SATA devices work though, and I don't think they work without having drivers. Sometimes something has gotten fucked up and the installer hasn't found my disks.
I'll try doing it with NTLite next time and see if it makes a difference (I have a license for it).
>>54696912
So, I purchased meme CPU without overclocking ability and with a backdoor inside? ;_;
>>54697047
I don't know. I've never tried to install windows 8 on Skylake
>>54697181
Yep but don't worry, as your "ring 0" OS is really running in a VM you'll never notice a slowdown when the spooks access your drive, mic, and camera.
>>54697250
I hope this is a joke but we're on /g/ after all
>>54697264
/g/ itself is a joke.
Wow, never knew this shit existed. Now I'm really fucking glad I went Haswell a month back rather than Skylake.
>>54697250
Well, at least I made someone's life easier. I'll be sure to wish mr. Spook a good day each time I use my PC from now on.
>>54696630
>Skylake
>good
The only thing good about it is DDR4, it's a meme otherwise.
>>54697293
Looks like someone has shit airflow in his case
>>54697119
>I'll try doing it with NTLite next time and see if it makes a difference (I have a license for it).
care to share?
anyway, I don't know what causes the issue, but my custom installation iso always fall to recognize hard disk too (although it works fine in virtual machine) unless I included all the current working drivers to it.
But microsoft gave in and extended support onto skylake in win7.
You need the right updates methinks, but also you would have to avoid the win10 updates. The ones that don't let you say no.
>>54696464
Almost the wrong way around.
You're trying to install an OS that no longer gets any feature or hardware support updates, on hardware which postdates its no longer getting hardware support updates.
Windows 7 is just too old.
>>54697303
>he thinks it's a matter of airflow
Nope, the case fans do a great job moving air and the CPU fan has plenty of space around it.
I'll try to find my old speccy with an OC'd G3258 running cooler than this piece of shit.
>>54697264
It's not a joke:
>>54697414
Will NSA agents spy on me if I live outside of US? I feel lonely and would like to have company.
>>54697450
They spy on everybody, but theoretically since I am a US person they have to destroy their records of my communications.
Except if I talk to a non-US person like you, then it can be saved but unless they think I'm a baddie they will anonymize my identity.
Supposedly anyway. But you're fucked.
>>54697303
>>54697411
Forgot to mention, if it was simply an airflow issue the chipset would also be much hotter.
I think it's just a garbage binned chip that needs a high vcore to be stable, causing it to be hot as fuck.
>>54696912
Now? Intel's ME is over 10 years old.
>>54696652
>>54696668
Use the 1511 ISO. Type your old Windows 7 key in while installing the ISO. Done.
>>54697450
Don't worry! The NSA does not discriminate in who it spies on. If you use the internet, they're spying on you. And if you're in an area without the internet, don't worry, the CIA will spy on you in lieu of the NSA.
>>54697491
>Now? Intel's ME is over 10 years old.
Yes but now it's on-die instead of just in the chipset.
When it was in the chipset it was optional.
>>54696912
Business laptops had it since before 2008
>>54696464
problem is the retarded design of the windows installer
It will first boot in usb2.0 or cd or whatever mode, after the first reboot it does not detect the usb3.0 medium anymore because win7 was made when there was no usb3.0. Integrate the driver or put it separately on the drive and select when asked for
>>54697529
>Business laptops had it since before 2008
Not on-die.
>>54697510
Thank you. I hope my curator is qt. (but if you're not, I don't mind, NSA-senpai).
>>54697414
If there was a built in backdoor, it would have been exploited by hackers not affiliated by the NSA by now.
>>54697543
How are you sure it hasn't been?
These days the name of the game at the state level is to leave no trace.
>>54697543
You can't use it without right certificates, NSA probably has them.
>>54697563
>NSA
NSA for sure, who knows who else.
>>54697541
Your curator is a machine and if you're not an actual terrorist your data will probably never be looked at by a human.
It's not a big deal.
So all new Intel chips have this "feature"?
>>54697543
This.
You conspiritards never explain this part of your bullshit drama. If Windows 10 has so many back doors, why hasn't anyone found them yet?
>>54697606
Yep, have since about the 2006-2008 period.
We're fucked. I bought an rPi 3b and am transitioning to that.
They could drop child porn onto your computer and emit the network traffic to simulate guilt on other servers while you fap to legal porn.
>>54697606
no. if this work the way the conspirtards claim it did, Russians would be using the backdoor to steal credit card information.
>>54697722
So which ones don't have AMT then?
>>54696877
Google it faggot, download one free program, download drivers, use program to put them in. if you can't do that kys and cum on all your computer partz
>>54697726
They all have it and have since about 2006-2008, Intel rolled it out somewhat quietly and not all at once, it took some time for it to be in all lines.
Sneaky fuckers.
>>54697740
Fug. Guess I'll start telling the NSA good morning every day.
>>54697629
I'm not any of the guys you responded to, but if a hacker group found backdoors in Windows 10 (And it would definitely be a group, it would require quite a few very dedicated people with a lotta resources to find something hidden by Microsoft to the NSA's standards), we probably wouldn't know about it. Such an exploit would be worth millions, or possibly billions of dollars if exploited correctly. A private group would never tell the public about it; why would they when they could be making millions? A lone/small group of vigilante hackers would never find the backdoor; they just simply would not have the resources to do so.
So maybe the backdoor hasn't been cracked yet. Or maybe its been cracked, and we just don't know about it. Or maybe there's no backdoor at all.
>>54697773
Depending on how bad the exploit was, you could probably sell it to the Russians or Chinese or North Koreans or whoever for, as you say, millions or even billions.
If this backdoor has been exploited it might be impossible to know, but it is real. You can play with it at home, just don't pretend the NSA can't play with it either.
>>54696464
Worked fine for me. You need to have your Motherboard driver DVD in the drive while booting the Win7 USB so it can preload the USB3.0 drivers.
>>54697722
You can literally go to Intel's site, read about it, and download the utilities.
It's 100% real.
>>54696464
Gigabyte offers a tool to inject xhci drivers into a win7 ISO. Works very well
>>54698088
Except you also now have a Chinese botnet.
>>54697293
>1066MHz
>>54697829
No one saying it isn't real. We're saying that it isn't a backdoor.
>fucking retards.
>>54698774
But it is, that's the fucked thing.
The NSA certainly has the signing keys by now, and you can spoof it with a $60 cert.
>>54696464
Install Linux, dd iso to another partition, install windows from other partition,???, fast install profit easy
>>54698788
There is no way in hell Intel would intentionally build in a back door for the government to use to spy on people.
Are you fucking retarded?
>>54697293
Congrats anon, you're fucking retarded.
Just turn it off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KS-k9uM_Gk
>>54698922
>There is no way in hell Intel would intentionally build in a back door for the government to use to spy on people.
They in fact did just this.
Do you know what a National Security Letter is?
>Are you fucking retarded?
That's the question I must ask you shill. Are you just a shill, or are you a retarded shill too?
Of course there is a back door. They frankly admit it.
>>54699073
It's never fully turned off even if it looks that way.
>>54699097
They did not admit that it is a government back door. You're applying their admission that a technology exists to a context they did not admit to.
It's anti-theft technology. That's all it is.
>>54699121
>That's all it is.
No, it's a government back door marketed to idiots as a management tool.
>>54699114
If you only disable it in the bios then yes, apparently. But if you go into the management menu uppon boot and disable it from there it should be totally disabled (as in not connectable)
i have similar problem, windows 7 disk doesnt recognize my ssd on partitioning step. it made me install windows 8.1
>>54699132
Doesn't appear this is always the case though, it's vendor specific.
Have you tried it? What hardware?
>>54699129
No it isn't.
>>54699148
My pc is not responding when using the management console
>>54699158
It won't unless you use a cert, you can make your own but it's $60.
>>54699150
It's also a corporate backdoor, of course.
>>54696912
botnet has been on-die since 1995 you retard
god damn i remember this 41 year old internet mom used to talk dirty to me when i was 11 in this chat room back in 1996
i would call her and we would have phone sex and she would talk about riding me and 'milking' my dick.
i would have no idea what that meant and she would explain that its when she clenches my penis with her vagina when i cum inside of her and she does this very tight like a cow nipple being slowly milked
now that i think about it, im pretty sure she worked for the NSA
>>54699197
Read this, and just do the opposite
http://www.howtogeek.com/56538/how-to-remotely-control-your-pc-even-when-it-crashes/
>>54699241
>she
What's up NSA shills.
>>54696464
>Why Intel Remove Support for USB based Windows 7 Installation?
> implying windows 7 is based
good one
>>54699294
lol
>>54697629
Log your fucking network traffic.
Also nsakey has been there since 95
>>54699546
The network drivers and software are all in firmware, you won't see it from your OS.
It's likely all encrypted too.
>>54696464
>Why Intel Remove Support for USB based Windows 7 Installation?
Windows 7 default installation doesn't support usb3. Not intel's fault. Windows is cancer and you should feel bad for using it.
