This thread is about the appreciation of watches, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that is required to make a fine watch.
Required viewing for newbies:
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Strap guide:
http://pastebin.com/SwRysprE
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>>54672189
First for spherotourbillon
>>54694539
Think I found my next watch.
What's the cheapest Swiss watch with a tourbillon?
What's a good watch around 10k or less with lots of complications?
>>54695591
Just get a Rodina.
>>54695731
Which is considered a better movement? Automatic or Quartz?
Can someone explain to me the difference between the Seiko SNK809B and the SNK809? I realise that one has the nato strap and one the metal bracelet but is that the only difference between the two models? Is that what the B is for?
I ask because one is eligible for Prime shipping and the other isn't.
>>54695687
Tag Heuer Carrera Heuer-02T 16k.
>>54684745
>>54684745
do you (or anyone else here) have a source for this statistic
i tried google but as soon as you put japan swiss it immediately jumps to comparisons between the two
>>54695771
i believe the b stands for bracelet
So would mechanical computers such as the curta that work off of clockwork like mechanisms fit here in this thread?
>>54695815
Excellent, thank you
>>54695860
Does it tell the time?
>>54695781
Nice but it's fuckhueg. Any other suggestions?
>>54695815
It sounds like bullshit, m8
Besides, we all know the biggest consumers of luxury Swiss watches are the two biggest groups of rapacious brand whores on the planet: the Americans and the Chinese.
>>54695860
>>54695891
Curtas are really cool, even if they are literally made by a Mountain Jew. Not sure if I would classify them as watches, though some mechanical watches could be classified as mechanical computers.
>>54692617
the 8926OB was my first automatic and I liked it, as long as you don't mind how blatant of a Sub rip-off it is and the Invicta branding on the case
also a good durable beater from my experience as I've been really hard on it at work and doing outdoorsy stuff
>>54695815
So I always thought the statistic was a bit of an exaggeration since there are just so many more Americans and Chinese like someone else said. But you can try and lead between the lines in, for example:
http://www.bain.com/bainweb/PDFs/Bain_Worldwide_Luxury_Goods_Report_2014.pdf
or "Japan is the world’s second largest luxury market after the United States, according to Euromonitor"
http://www2.deloitte.com/content/dam/Deloitte/it/Documents/about-deloitte/GP_Luxury_2014.pdf
https://www.mckinseyonmarketingandsales.com/sites/default/files/pdf/Japan_Luxury_report_2013.pdf
"Japan
remains the world’s third-largest luxury
market, after the US and China."
https://www.mckinseyonmarketingandsales.com/sites/default/files/pdf/Japan_luxury_market_report.pdf
Who really cares? They spend fuck loads on good stuff!
>>54695861
np
>>54696216
well that's something at least
>>54692617
one of the first automatic watches i ever got was pic related (orient 2er00001b), which used to be one of the best sub "homages" you could get, along with the 8926ob.
it was really great at first but after a several months i began to hesitate to wear it because of how shameless a sub ripoff it was as >>54696094
stated. every schmuck would ask if it was a rolex from any distance and once they saw the dial they would do this sort of groaning "oh that's nice" sort of expression where they weren't impressed whatsoever and believed i was wearing some chinatown knockoff when i specifically bought a sub styled watch as opposed to a replica.
not saying i look for random peoples approval when i wear a watch, but it got so tiring having to hear this every time i wore it. i felt i was wearing a watch where there was no originality whatsoever as well.
nowadays i never wear it at all, wont get rid of it because it was my first mechanical. YMMV of course, just my experience.
In my occasional perusal of survival/shtf forums, I've stumbled onto something I was hoping to get you guys' opinion on.
Whenever watches come up, the opinion often surfaces that a mechanical or automatic would be better for shtf scenarios than a quartz. The reasoning generally revolves around two points:
1. A quartz watch uses a battery, which would be hard if not impossible to replace in a shtf scenario
2. A quartz watch is electronic, which (they claim) means it would be fried by an EMP and become useless, while a mechanical would keep on ticking.
Both of these claims, along with the overarching idea about the usefulness of a watch in a shtf scenario, are pretty dubious if you ask me, but I was wondering if I could get you guys' opinions.
>>54696315
But they're also (generally) less accurate, require more frequent servicing, require expertise to service, and more prone to damage.
I don't actually know which is better for shtf but I have both so if it's ever relevant I'll know.
>>54696315
How paranoid are you? Buy a couple of terrorist Casios ($15) and put them in a faraday cage. The batteries last for like 10 years
Mechanicals are not very rugged and will get beaten up and broken in combat situations. A few batteries will be easier to find then a watch repair guy with the tools for the trade
A mechanical will require a serivce at the best once every 10 years, a Quartz will need a serivce every 50 years, you just need to replace the batteries to keep it ticking
Learn to tell the time with the sun
This is just my opinion m8
>>54695891
Rally cars use them to calculate lap time so sortof
>>54696370
My thoughts exactly, I personally think that some kind of solar analog quartz would probably be the best shtf watch.
>>54696439
Oh I don't really worry about shtf stuff; I value it as a means of thinking about things like the unserviced durability of common items like watches or vehicles, but I don't expect a shtf scenario that requires said durability to ever occur.
What are you guys' thoughts specifically on the EMP claim? From the stuff I've read online, this doesn't seem to be a serious issue. For one, EMPs are a serious threat to large scale electronics, like power grids or industrial plants, but not really an issue for small scale stuff like cars, phones, and especially watches.
>>54696315
>>54696315
these debates never make sense to me other than an extension of "quartz vs mechanical". if there was some sort of emp your electronics will be destroyed by, the nuclear fallout will kill you soon enough that your watch issue will be irrelevant unless im wrong.
in the case of "it's just an emp with no nuclear fallout" it's still not even a real debate. if you are seriously preparing for an end of the world event, what you can do is get a gshock with tough solar and store it into an emp-proof box labeled "in case of emergency". you circumvent the emp vulnerability and battery changing drawbacks, while enjoying the benefits of quartz accuracy, infinite battery life and nearly an invulnerable watch.
the kicker is that the vast majority of people, including the ones who think they're special for stocking up on some campbells (survivalist/doomsday nutjobs), would be eradicated in a large scale event or be so poorly equipped to deal with the new world they would be dead soon. the civilized people who actually do make will wish they were dead just as soon. the problem is that no one thinks they are part of the vast majority, and everyone believes they are special and an exception.
it's fun to watch the walking dead and think "what if" but it's naive to take seriously. the people who would make it aren't people in civilized areas which are major targets. it's likely to be tribal-level barbaric types who already deal with a barren wasteland and hunting lions and shit with their bare hands, some zombies or hunger games would be childs play to these people.
inb4 "your talking out of your ass"; this entire debate consists of people talking out of their ass and making ridiculous speculations.
>>54696315
Some quartz watches are solar, so you could circumvent the replaceable battery issue that way. But those are, like all watches, eventually going to need replacement components or repair.
The emp issue is one you could explore, I'm not going to go there.
How hard did the shit hit the fan and why? Are you trying to scare a wolf away to gnaw on a carcass and are considering drinking your own piss like bear grylls? It doesn't matter what time it is.
But really, in other than the most basic survival time of day is very important. And even during the most basic survival situations, time of year, which some watches will help you keep, is still important.
But assuming not ALL of the shit hit the fan, there's still a lot of means of production and other people around, and working together on coordinated time is very useful. If you were one of the only ones with a working timepiece you might get a cushy job ringing a bell on the hour during the day until everyone can start getting reliable ways, as individuals, to keep track of time.
In regards to which is best. Why not both? How about a grand Seiko quartz with hermetically sealed movement and some spare batteries and a Sinn Ar-dehumidified, diapal mechanical? Maybe a g-shock too.
Keep in mind, if the watch is that precious and rare at that point, you're not going to wear it on your wrist anymore. Wrists pull many more Gs, take larger shocks and just more rough treatment than somewhere like your chest or torso. You're going to put it in a front stomach pocket most likely.
>>54696678
>basement jaxx
nostalgia'ing hard af
>>54696678
yessir!
>>54696731
>Keep in mind, if the watch is that precious and rare at that point, you're not going to wear it on your wrist anymore. Wrists pull many more Gs, take larger shocks and just more rough treatment than somewhere like your chest or torso. You're going to put it in a front stomach pocket most likely.
Pic related, this gentleman is secure in the fact that he always knows the time, even though shit has his the fan. There might be a g-shock on the end of that chain
>>54696650
My paranoid schizophrenia doesn't extend to end of the world situations, only to the government spying on me (afp and asio I know you're reading this) so I don't have much knowledge, I'm not sure what your current thoughts, ideas and preparedness are, but I think getting other things sorted first would be better, like a gun, proficiency in said gun and a decent amount of ammo
>>54696678
Is that real? The dial looks a bit wierd in the photo
>>54696826
it's real. it's the blue, titanium, liquidmetal PO.
>>54692107
Why the fuck would you cycle with a watch let a line a mechanical one? I'm pretty sure most bike computers tell time.
>>54696315
Cheap Casios have great battery life and EMPs are a meme senpai.
>>54696848
I haven't actually seen one in person, fair enough
>>54696875
Could of been a push bike m8
>>54696999
>Could of been
It's "Could have" you goat fucker.
>>54697058
*Coulda
Get fucked you pommy cunt
>>54696999
>>54697058
>>54697222
>>54696006
And me bro
>>54696301
Wear it anyway, it looks good.
I own a rolex, nobody asks if it's a rolex. When conversations about watches come up i avoid them because they don't believe it's a rolex until they have had their grubby pleb fingers all over it for 10 minutes.
Then it's all "but but mah ::generic watch:: is so much better because xyz"
Ah huh. Don't care
So tl:dr
Wear it anyway anon and don't be ashamed it's a well made watch and that counts for more to those of us who do have a mememariner
>>54696896
I'm fairly sure I read something about G-shocks being EMP proof
Anyway the whole EMP thing is a meme. If it happens I'm sure you would have much bigger things to worry about than your fucking watch, also a mechanical would be magnetized as well.
>>54696678
I want to pick on the watch but i can't.
So:
Wrong arm douche
>>54697624
i'm left handed...
>>54697654
Hey hey
That's between you and your willie
>>54697654
I'm just being a tool
Is a nice watch
First for poor
Tomorrow I'm going to pick this bad boy up,
for 40 eurocoins
>>54697730
could have done worse.
post a watch you absolutely can't stand /wt/
>>54698310
>>54696817
what a great post.
>>54690819
>Also, does any watch have lumed day and date window? Trouble is these turn over at midnight so any day time exposure will not work for the fields after midnight changes. This really is not hard. Trouble is noone provides what I ask for.
Lange has lumed date on a couple models. They have a semi-transparent dial so that the date wheels still receive light.
>>54698310
any Seiko 5 (except the SNZH57)
>>54698310
>>54698310
I can't stand the fact that Casio refuses to make a proper steel cased digital anymore.
Also hate the lack of dressy digitals, pic related is the best I could find.
Thankfully Pulsar makes some but the module is shit for anything other than time telling.
>>54698574
This is pretty much the last one they make
It would be a great watch too if it weren't so fucking huge
>>54698540
>watch
>>54698310
ALL THE CASIOS
C
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S
I
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Fuck digi digi
Casio is releasing the new version of the Databank this month. I've never owned one, but it looks nicer than the old model.
http://www.shopcasio.com/product/databank-ca506b-1avt-black-face-black-band
http://www.shopcasio.com/product/databank-ca506g-9avt-gold-face-gold-band
>>54698802
I really hate that design
If you're going to spend 60 bucks on a databank, at least get a proper one. This module is just too basic to warrant that price tag.
Not to mention the CALCULATOR all over the bottom, what the fuck were they thinking?
Casio USA makes me mad.
>>54695450
>spherotourbillon
holy shit I'm in love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBhBmORxe2M
>>54698855
Well the prices on the Casio website seem inflated. They list some Illuminator watches for $60 but you could get them for $40 at Walmart.
>>54698893
> two hundred thousands dollars
>>54698802
>$60
fucken dropped
>>54698911
I wouldn't pay more than 15 bucks for that module.
I think I got mine for 12$ last year from amazon.
Again, if you're gonna buy a databank, buy a proper one. Pic related is only 16 bucks
![57624362[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/PGfmj4V.jpg "57624362[1].jpg")
>>54698893
>thickness the size of a brick
>>54696315
Something like a navitimer with built in "calculators" would be potentially useful in the situation you're describing. Have a look into them.
>>54696678
>>54697624
Not a speedmaster. Not a chronometer. No chronograph... see, it's easy.
>mfw chinks on aliexpress call a visible balance wheel a "tourbillion"
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>tfw Casio slaughtered all their steel digitals
Why do I even bother staying alive at this point?
>>54699149
>digital
I wonder why you keep living myself
Annnd new Amphibia and Komandirskie models are coming up.
This time, the bezels and crowns are steel, and are domestically made.
>>54699178
New octagonal case.
>>54699199
And steel crowns&bezels
Can someone recommend good online watch stores in Europe?
Can we actually talk about time?
Is time.gov accurate? I ask this because I use timedatectl to sync my system time via ntp and it's always 1 second behind time.gov
Should I be trusting the ntp server or time.gov?
>>54699199
>>54699199
>>54699329
>Can we actually talk about time?
no
>>>/sci/
>"I'll take it". I said instantly as I pulled out my cheque and my trusty pen. Never had I been so sure about getting something my entire life. "Is it okay if I wear this right now? " I politely asked the man on the counter. "It's all yours now , Sir" he said with a smile. He has seen far too many millionaires come and go but very few like myself with a good taste. I proudly walked out with my new Bulgari Carillon on my wrist. I walked down the street and could see people already looking at my hand. I was now in the spotlight, the world at my feet. I could feel my cold Rolex in my pocket. "Don't need this anymore" I thought to myself and pulled it out. There was a homeless man sitting on the curb ,looking at my watch too, not really sure what it is. I smiled at him and tossed the Rolex in his hat. A generous contribution I must say, he probably had 20 dollars worth of coins in there and now he had a rolex to go with it. He gasped in astonishment , so did people around him who saw me do it. But they all understood why it had to be done. I was now too good to be seen with a Rolex. I looked at my watch once again, closed my eyes as it chimed like heaven's bells. And then my stupid mobile phone wakes me up to it's annoying ringtone. I wake up and look at the time. My Rolex on the bedside table read 7:00 am. Meant time to wake up and continue my shitty life as a mere peasant.
>>54699199
these are tastefully designed desu. Vostok is doing things right for once.
>>54699199
If only they wrote 200 m instead 21 jewels on the dials, these would be much better.
>>54699623
>Bulgari Carillon
That's one of the ugliest watches ever made
>>54699178
>>54699199
They are pretty good, what are the prices like?
I think a part of Vostoks appeal was their obscure looks
>>54699178
>>54699199
Vostok making watches which aren't absolutely hideous? Nice.
>>54699623
>>54699178
740 and 713 look nice.
>Not wearing a humvee on your wrist
>>54699696
Well, 480 series were around 200-190 bucks.
But those had solid endlinks and mineral crystals, and the newer ones are all inhouse/locally made.
Digging the 711 dirskie myself.
>>54697730
Holy shit where do you get seiko 5's for $3
>>54699983
>$3
???
>>54699851
>>54699149
>>54698964
>>54698855
>>54698802
>>54698604
>>54698574
>>54698540
>digital
>>54699178
I like the 714
>>54700011
Kill yourself
>>54699623
>>54700065
>pulsar
Slav watches are pretty cool
>>54700207
Slav watches are pretty poor*
>>54700084
Problem?
>tfw got a 95 on my Final
Time to buy a new watch~
>>54699199
Aren't these the same as the old USSR cases? I wouldn't mind though.
>>54696301
Just respond with "not every watch in the world is a Rolex, you know, and Rolex isn't even the best brand".
>>54696315
>mfw there are people this retarded
>mfw the world ends and what they can think about is the battery of the watch
>>54700464
In the land of blind men, the one eyed man is king.
>>54697565
>>54700455
what bothered me was hearing the same exchange over and over to the point of becoming pedantic and annoying.
sort of like a cashier hearing "that means its free right" when something doesn't ring up on their register, even if you have a great comeback or reasoning you still get tired of hearing it.
>>54698926
Kek
>>54700207
>APC
Nigger.
>>54699623
Kekd audibly.
>>54700346
What course?
>>54700651
>>54700651
Nah. Theyre pretty good
>>54700383
Close but not exactly.
Older Albatross cases are only fit for handwound 24109/2414 movements.
>>54699329
If you really want to be autistic about it, then tune into 77.5kHz here:
http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/
>>54699329
I don't think it is, probably because browser and http technical shit. Your OS clock will be accurate if it's synced with ntp.
>>54695766
mateee
what are you thinking?
automatic anyday
>>54695766
>quartz
>"movement"
>>54695766
Quartz. But if you're asking what will you enjoy owning more as a watchfag: automatic.
>>54700011
Why are you browsing the technology board? Go to /fa/.
thinking of getting this sinobi chinese $10 watch.
looks pretty good with a nato strap imo
>Get Lord Marvel back from servicing on Saturday morning, watchmaker winds it and sets time
>Pick it up this morning
>Still running 48 hours later, keeping perfect time
>Mainspring still has some resistance in it
>mfw watch is 43 years old and performing better than my brother's 4R35
>>54699178
>31 jewels
Did Vostok finally spend some R&D money? These look really good, although I would like one with a slightly larger commie star.
>>54702306
>Great bang for the buck
Be careful of explosive items anon
can anyone explain to me why jewels are anything other than a fancy thing to add?
how do they help the metal in any way?
>>54702374
Google it
>>54702357
I wouldn't exactly call it R&D, since they are the same standard 2416B and 2415b movements.
However i like the fact that they are both remaking the old 470 case and modifying it to hold an automatic movement, they are adding the new 160 case, and also some of the newer cases will have 20mm lugs along with solid endlinks (in some models)
But in terms of looks they listened well, checked what the consumers and modders did, and they turned out mighty fine.
>>54702374
Basically, they are meant to reduce friction.
Google it, wikipedia has an article on it.
>>54702374
They act similarly to how a washer works. Parts sit on them
They aren't all that special, having more doesn't necessarily make the movement better
>>54702357
I'm the watch m8
>>54702357
>>54702418
Liking
Fuck
I'm out of watch related photos, let's see what the Ol camera roll has to offer
>>54699178
>>54699199
Fuck! Glad I waited. When are they coming out?
>>54702473
I think they are already beginning or about to begin production, since Meranom already has the new crowns for sale on his site.
Also pic related.
>>54702418
>They act similarly to how a washer works
That's not what a washer is normally for.
>>54702448
A 350 dollar genuine vintage watch?
what's /wt/'s opinion on vintage East German Glashütte watches? Are they good quality?
>>54702685
They.
Especially the Spezimatic series. Though these are rising in prices lately since the overall supply of them is dwindling.
>>54702703
Meant to say they are.
>>54695860
>So would mechanical computers such as the curta that work off of clockwork like mechanisms fit here in this thread?
I would say yes.
Case in point: the Long Now Clock. There is a mechanical time keeping part connected to a mechanical computing part using rods and levers.
One example would be to set the time and date and have the mechanical computer determine correct phase of the moon from this new time without separately setting correct moon phase manually.
>>54702685
>>54702703
Thanks. How much do these nowadays go for? I'm following an auction of one like >>54702685 in NOS condition but without date window, it's not a Spezimatic though.
>>54699003
>not chronometer
>>54702685
holy I have this one but with another label, but also a east german watch manufactored there. will make foto as soon as I get heim
>>54702802
Noice and how do you like your watch?
>>54702866
it broke after a month :(
>>54702866
I love it, it's one of my granddads watches I got when he died and recently I brought them back to life. It has a silver backround and I but a simple leather wristband on it for formal occasions.
I will snap a few pictures in an hour or so
>>54702896
>>54702902
Fuck, now I'm confused.
>>54702902
I love it but I got it for free and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't pay more than 40€ to buy one of those if I hadn't already one.
Recommend me a solid watch for around a 150 american pesos.
>>54702977
>Mercedes
Could have at least picked something good.
>>54694539
>not using the most sensible watch in history as your pic.
>>54703006
>Could have at least picked something good.
you can tell he has poor taste since he chose a rolex
Oh thanks for rotating my image clover...
Behold.. the new orient ray mk II
:^)
What do you think?
>>54703253
does it even tell the time
>>54703263
Of course.
>>54703004
Timex Weekender + Casio G-Shock 5600 series
>>54703278
oh this is nice.
also looks slim.
How easy is the Seiko penis quartz movement to repair? Could any watchmaker in the UK do it?
I got a Type II quartz from Y! auctions and it doesn't work.
>>54703300
It only costs $250.000.
>>54703342
who gives a shit?
anything more than 1500$ for a watch might as well not even be on sale for me.
not because I can't afford it (got 150k $ i'm a trustfund babby) but because it's retarded
still it's nice to see what man's engineering can do.
>Got a Seiko 5
>Hands get a bit dirty but mostly wet at work
>Don't wear it there
>Only wear it in the evening/weekend
>Have to set the time every time
Should have got a Weekender.
I'm also considering getting a new job since I already got the Seiko.
>>54703367
Just saying. If I had the money I'd get it.
>>54703462
You should have bought a watch with handwinding.
>>54703471
honestly looks uncomfortable to tell what time it is at a glance.
I'd rather get a f.p. journe or a lange&sohne,
for much less
>>54703342
And it'd cost $100 tops to produce if it was quartz. I hate what the watch industry has become.
>>54703504
>industry
>>54703462
>>54703494
Or should have gotten an Amphibia to both handwind and to wear it through everything.
Also, isn't the weekender rated the same as the S5?
>>54703494
>>54703517
I guess I'll start wearing the Seiko every day since it was cheap anyway. I ditched the Weekender because the loud ticking.
I guess I could get an Amphibian, but I would probably get a more dressy quartz for the weekends.
Open to suggestions.
>>54703502
First I wouldn't get it to tell the time. Second you just have to look at the most external "hand".
>>54703504
You don't know what you're talking about.
>>54702536
I am aware a washing is for vibration but people use washers all the time to place any nut on a bolt even for static things
>>54702685
Yes. Price needs to be considered, back when they were soviet they weren't exactly luxury, now that they are luxury watches the early models are more highly sort after giving them a higher price, don't over pay for one
>>54703313
He will be able to do a test in 2 seconds to see if it is the battery or the internals, if it is the battery it will cost like $5 if it is the internals, he will have to source the parts, which might not be possible/pratical due to the age, return if it isn't working
>>54703504
>And it'd cost $100 tops to produce if it was quartz
who else thinks those swiss watches could be very well assembled/polished etc. by machine by now?
I mean they are using humans just for the point of using humans at this point, aren't they?
what with all their lenses and pliers and shit
>>54703504
You are an idiot.
>>54703684
To this day no machine can successfully replicate the work of a watchmaker.
>>54703780
I hardly believe it.
it's just a matter of levigating surfaces, and fitting gears into places.
>>54703684
Swatch tried doing it with the System51 and you know how it went.
When in the end they tried cutting too many corners to be able to make a profit and cover the R&D and machinery costs.
>>54696301
>shittalking orient
their loss
>>54703659
They can be used for vibrations, but normally to spread load or lock fasteners. like the flat washers and lock washers that show up on Google when you search 'washer.'
But regardless, those who do not know what a jewel is for, and can't watch the video in the OP to find out, should Google it.
>>54703844
what aliexpress seller was that?
>>54703848
>and can't watch the video in the OP to find out,
the video only mentions the two pallet jewels.
it says nothing of all the others sittings in holes in the movement.
>>54703659
It's not the battery I had a spare. Fuck damn it.
>>54703874
I can't watch it right now, but there should be something in there about how jewels are in the watch 'strictly for business' and mention their effectiveness in friction reduction.
>>54703809
And how many times are you going to do this just to polish one tiny part of a watch that can hold more than 100 parts?
>>54703946
>how many times are you going to do this
Not him but do what?
>>54703920
I had two old Quartz seikos whixh needed internals replaced on them, could only get the parts for one of them from seiko
>>54703516
>>54703603
>>54703679
>>54703744
ITT: Cucks.
>>54704347
Fuck off, retard.
>>54704370
Stay assblasted.
>>54703811
>Swatch tried doing it with the System51 and you know how it went.
I don't, please go on.
I believed Swatch made caliber works for others to build upon. Was I mistaken?
>When in the end they tried cutting too many corners to be able to make a profit and cover the R&D and machinery costs.
Looking over the collection I only see watches ugly as sin, not sure how that relates to cutting corner.
>>54705771
Read this before were going to delve any further into it.
http://watchguy.co.uk/review-a-trip-inside-the-swatch-sistem51-eta-c10111/
Question, if I buy a g shock will people point and laugh at me?
Took back my Scubapro 500 to my watchmaker. Decided to ask him to remove the 12 bezel marker lume and replace with the original tint orange non-lume paint.
But there was nothing he could do regarding the crystal. He tried polishing it with a diamond compound but no luck. It's not just the outer scratch you see on the pictures, on the right light and angle the inside of the crystal has several more scratches and spots, most likely permanently caused by the prolonged water exposure.
I know this is a long shot but is there any way I can order a new mineral crystal for this watch (that won't bankrupt me), being uncommon and rare as it is?
Recommend me an elegant looking quartz for 100€ or less.
Anything goes really for dial color, strap, whatever, but no vintages.
>>54703854
>>54705901
With how obscenely rare they are, it won't be easy.
>>54705902
Orient Capital.
>>54705880
>Question, if I buy a g shock will people point and laugh at me?
I will
>>54706023
So is my best bet here just salvaging another watch just for the crystal? Even then, that's beyond expensive and hard to come across.
Isn't there any company out there making custom crystals if you ship your old one or something like that?
Or should I just learn to love the scratches as battle scars?
>>54703504
High end quartz movements are still in the thousands anon. Check out Grand Seiko or Oceanus
Quartz =/= cheap shit watch. That kind of movement is just associated with cheap watches.
![auktionsvara_37852_stor[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/mvwvlwy.jpg "auktionsvara_37852_stor[1].jpg")
What's the maximum price you would pay for this.
>>54706055
Zero because ugly.
Tastes aside, 500$
>>54705880
No
Literally no one cares about your watch
Get one (or a few) that you like and enjoy the best in tough technology.
>Casio really needs to start fucking paying me already
>>54705902
>no vintages
why senpai
vintage watch best watch
>>54698893
>overengineering a watch
>>54706052
One could argue these aren't as popular and widespead as Seiko 6105 and 6309 divers. (in those cases a clever guy reverse engineered the original Seiko crystal)
There are two Scuba pro's for sale on eBay, but both are in the 1500~2000 range.
>>54705880
If people are already pointing and laughing at you, a bland G-shock won't change much.
>>54706122
Vintage indeed.
>>54706122
I think he just may be worrying about how long a vintage quartz movement will work.
>>54705813
>Read this
Phew! That is the closest to a rocky horrorology show I have ever seen. How could they debase themselves like this?
I cannot see this relates to b0rken research and development, this is plain and simple industrialised shoddyness. And silver soldering plastics? That's new, for sure and let us hope it stays unique.
Back in the day I worked in quality assurance and we had lectures on how the Japanese did it. 40 years of experiences were calmly overlooked here.
>>54706075
Good price. My thoughts exactly.
>>54705902
>>54706176
>There are two Scuba pro's for sale on eBay, but both are in the 1500~2000 range.
Yeah, I'll stick with my scratched crystal then. Thanks.
Would a Vostok survive this?
>http://youtu.be/PrYQmRRmCOM
>>54706287
No
/thread
xDDDDDDDDDD
>>54706410
>Vostok confirmed for meme
SUCK IT YOU POORFAG PIECES OF SHIT
BUY A FUCKING ROLEX ALREADY
>>54706219
It feels as if this whole thing was more of a R&D to see if they can make a proper automated production line, while doing it as economically as possible.
They cut corners on the both watch development itself, specifically on the quality of the movement as it was complete and utter shit, and also the materials. Since they have used as little metal as possible to make it. Besides the baseplate,gear train,stem and keyless works they either used plastic or stamped sheet metal.
>>54706227
Well rest assured, that the watch is definitely worth quite a fair share of money.
>>54706287
Freezer test easily, shock test shouldn't be an issue either.
though the boiling test is uncertain but plausible, because of the factory rubber seals. Ideally if both the crown and caseback gaskets were applied with silicon grease (some mixtures are heat resistant) it should be possible.
>>54706451
There's no fucking way it would survive that drilling thing.
It would knock the entire movement lose
If it somehow did it sure as hell wouldn't keep proper time
>>54705813
Stop winking oh my God!
>>54706451
>shock test shouldn't be an issue either
hah, no
>>54706506
Maybe. But that drill part is not really something that could happen in a real life setting. Imagine something like that happening to your own body.
People have already tested dropping the Komandirkie/Amphibia from 2 meters and higher they survived it just fine. Hell i've had somebody close a door on mine (twice with full force) after the cat decided to take it away with her.
Oh and after a bit of research, people have tested first freezing and then boiling the Amphibia and even the Dirskie and they both survived just fine.
>>54706691
stop being salty - you got blown the fuck out by a fucking g-shock
deal with it
>>54706721
Not me- stop acting like a faggot dude
>>54706691
>not really something that could happen in a real life setting
Service men need watches too anon.
Especially people working construction.
>>54706721
I never said the Amphibia is more tough than the Gshock, all i said it can take the punishment and work afterwards. Will it work well? Yet to be seen.
I do think the G-shock is superior in the shock resistance aspect, but it has it's own few flaws.
>>54706752
I've done the latter quite a bit as, and i'm about to do the former.
On the latter i've had some older 5600 Gshock model (c series i think) that broke when i was working with one of the older Bosch demo hammers (The 5.5~6kg range, don't recall the model). Glass cracked and the resin had some weird damage on it. The springbars failing are a minor thing.
Amphibia survived quite fine when i sledgehammered a hotel lobbdy down.
>fall for the communist watch meme
>open package
>lume dot detached
Back to where it came from, that is, into the trash.
>>54707193
>Windows Phone
I see you keep making bad moves
>>54707209
The actual meme is "Windows Phone is shit", when it's actually good.
Amphibias on the other hand...
>>54707193
>WP
kek
Tell the seller that it happened and he'll likely refund you for it.
>>54707235
Dude I had a lumia920
I know what I am talking about
>>54706023
This one looks exactly like i wanted, but it costs 150 bucks on ebay and it is out of stock on longislandwatches.
Any recommended store?
>>54706122
Various reasons. First spending time hunting for one in good conditions and then avoid getting jewed because I know shit about watches, warranty, looks.
Thoughts? http://www.supermirror.net/content/?319.html
>>54707374
Ebay seems to be the only option. The model isn't exactly new nor is it commonly available because it has the same domed glass as the Bambino V1.
Nothing wrong with vintage though, Seiko type II and King quartz watches are certainly worth the shekels and are usually in good working order if there's no rust and grime in them.
>>54703854
>i spent $250 on a seiko that doesn't look half as good :(((( Fuck him!
>>54707209
Top Kek
>>54707459
cool rolex bro
>>54707465
>>54707374
Correction, you're an imbecile who can't even browse their site properly.
Longislandwatches have it up for sale for 99$.
>>54707527
I was going to say the model I posted was actually the only Capital sould out but it isn't, looks like I'm actually an imbecile.
>>54705902
>Recommend me an elegant looking quartz for 100€ or less.
Casio has some nice ones
What's the most /g/ and the most beautiful smartwatch?
So where can I actually order watch parts as a Yuropoor? Pic related, needs a new escape wheel. Boley.de has the Omega version of the part but it says I have to be a parts dealer to register. Can I get a parts dealer to order it for me?
How do you guys deal with the 1000% markup on luxury watches?
>>54705880
I remember a kid in my class had a round g-shock back in Secondary school ( middle-school ) We used to call it anons star wars watch.
>>54707459
are these stolen or knock offs
cant tell..... and are they shit or not
a convincing tag carrera woudlnt be the worst thing
>>54705880
>will people point and laugh at me?
If you're not a hambeast and can pull off the large size.
It's a lot better than an obese person wearing a mechanical wrist fedora imagining himself as a supreme gentleman while he explores the insides of his local walmart in a mobility scooter.
>>54707951
The markup varies. How about the 1,000,000% markup on magic cards?
>mfw I sold my Vostok for $80
>>54708315
Congratz.
Which one?
>>54708338
Blue scuba dude, 710 case. I kind of miss it but I couldn't deal with the variance in accuracy. The day I was packing it to ship it, it was running +1sec. Kind of triggered me desu.
>>54708454
>variance in accuracy
Go figure even my JDM 52XX cal Seiko has some variance in accuracy.
Granted it's 40 years old and usually does like +1sec per day, but occasionally when it's very hot it does +5secs. Same with the Amphibia's when it comes to temperature variance.
It's not like it jumped from +5 to +30 or something though.
>>54700744
>>54702415
No, the only difference is that the case is 2mm wider. Automatics only merely need a taller caseback.
>>54705901
It should be a standard size, or get sapphire. Not that expensive.
>>54708547
I'll probably just get an atomic watch. But it seems like 98% of atomic watches are hideous.
>>54708675
So basically, pure autism?
I love it when my watches are as accurate as they can be but there is a fine line.
>>54707951
I buy replicas and have them modded in Italy to look 100% gen. Fuck the Swiss.
>>54708675
>>54708790
>In Italy
Mio fratello ebreo :)
>>54708795
yeah thats hideous.
its for a 12 year old or a man child who beats off in the mall bathroom before going to hot topic to stare at 15 years old s
>>54708743
>So basically, pure autism?
S-shut up
>>54708795
Wow I never knew that g-shock was atomic. I wouldn't call it hideous but...
>>54707837
I love how all movement and watch repair related questions remain unanswered. /wt/ confirmed for consumerist /fa/ circlejerk.
>>54708790
elaborate please
>>54703300
star ruins it but fuck me if that isn't the most beautiful piece of technology I've seen
>>54708834
So, because no one here is a parts dealer willing to register, that means no one in this thread poses any knowledge of the inner workings of a watch?
That is some flawless logic right there m80.
>>54708840
https://www.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/191082-Finally-my-magical-BP-SD-built-by-magic-modder-gen-dial-gen-hands
https://www.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/313352-Sub-V6-No-date-NEW-and-MODDED!-)
>>54708896
I asked where do people get parts. Apparently no one orders them since no one answered. Which means no one here in actually repairing watches. So how would they have any idea of "the inner workings of a watch" if they don't work on them? >keyboard watchmakers
>>54708957
so only qualified and practicing watch repairers are allowed to appreciate watches?
dude thats harsh
>>54708952
I'm on RWI too and have seen some franken projects but I thought it was workshops with high prices like the AP guys, or just individuals and their own parts. Victor sounds like a pro though how does one contact him?
>>54708957
And you also asked
>Can I get a parts dealer to order it for me?
You're not like to find an independent watchmaker on here, only watch repairmen you may encounter would likely work for a large chain of jewellers and order directly from the manufacturer in those instances.
