The GTX 1070 will be a long step from the GTX 980 Ti to keep the pricing up on the older cards.
>>54635923
>980
>$349
Where
>>54636002
You have to wait for the 1070 to be released.
You would have to be crazy to buy a 980 instead of a 1070 for only $30 more.
>>54635923
>SEVEN-POINT-FIVE-GIGABYTES
>>54635923
This never happens. Nvidia cut production of the 900 series already, so the rest will be sold at the same price for SLI.
>>54636281
An absolute madman. Or you know, someone already has a 980ti and wants sli.
>>54635923
1. Your graph is lying you fucking retard
2. Nvidia has already sold all of their 900-cards. They don't benefit from "keeping the pricing up" you fucking retard
>>54637407
AMD has already announced that they got cucked again and polaris will only target low-mid end "value" segments
>>54637485
>980 is higher than mid-end
are you sober?
>>54637485
This, Polaris is shit.
Vega, on the other hand. 16GB of HMB2.
>>54637539
>making assumptions
How's that 10% performance gap and house fire Temps doing for ya?
>>54636683
>>54637404
I fixed it for you.
>>54637532
Yeah, that's the point retard. Both 1070 and 1080 are way faster than 980 and AMD can't keep up.
>>54637485
>This meme
The full Polaris 10 chip will be close to 1070 performance for $300-$350
The cut down version will be 10-20% slower for $250
Polaris 11 will be 960/380 tier for $120 or something like that
>>54637635
>>54637676
What's the point of comparing unplayable fps?
>>54637764
you're comparing cards. retard.
>>54637764
My thoughts exactly. 4K might be the biggest meme in tech history
>>54637793
>which of these cards is LEAST unplayable
It's unrealistic and basically useless
>>54637676
So even with your desperately cherrypicked example, the 1080 is still ~60% faster than the 980. This confirms what I said retard. ~70% was even what nvidia claimed in their promotional material
I got this from closed sources.
>>54637806
Just lower settings retard. Clean picture without jaggies/shimmering is way better than ambient oclusion and godrays and whatever else bullshit they tack on top
>>54637900
>wasting HBM2 on Pascal
lol
>>54637912
>wasting HBM2 on anything amd
lol
>>54637660
that's literally the low-mid "value" segment you dip
>>54637900
I don't believe that graph is authentic, but if Vega is going to be under 500 dollaridoodoos I'm going to get one.
>>54637764
We're still trying to get a solid 60 at 1440p, let alone 144.
>secret-document.png
>classified screenshot
Next time try to make it believable. Vega 10 should not be cheaper than 1080. Vega 10 is supposed to have 70% more shaders than Polaris 10 and should therefore be faster than a 1080.
>>54635923
Meh. I'm just waiting for a future proof 1080p 60fps card, or maybe the 980Ti if it drops in price. Yes the 980Ti is overkill for 1080p, but that's kinda the point.
>>54638049
>maybe the 980Ti if it drops in price.
it can dropped to €550 for me
>buying nvidia
ayyy
>>54638049
>future proof
massive meme
>980ti for 1080p
massive overkill
>>54638049
not even the gtx 1080 is really overkill for 1080p, current games with maxed settings can be like 60+ fps but not like a solid 120+ fps, not all of them at least
>>54638071
>massive overkill
not when it'll get gimped by driver updates
>hurr don't update
then you can't run games that use new API's/featurs
>>54636002
evga b-stock occasionally has them
>>54638077
At 60fps the 1080 is overkill and stupidly expensive. It's a current 1440p, slightly over 60fps card according to Hardware.fr's benches (yes I'm an actual dirty frog). Starts here.
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/948-15/benchmark-anno-2205.html
>>54638125
>slightly over 60fps
not overkill
in a couple of years it will not even do 60 fps in modern games
Does this mean buying 980 Ti right before the 1080 announcement was a good or bad move?
>>54638171
bad. price is dropping to 550 now
>>54638170
>slightly over 60fps
At 1440p for most greedy games with nearly everything maxed (less greedy games go at 90-110fps maxed), not at 1080p. Not dumping 790€ (no kidding, it's on the Intro page) for that. Again, I'd be looking for a comfortable 1080p/60fps card.
>>54637155
the ti is quite a bit more than the 1070, dinkleberry.
>>54638201
yeah the gtx 1070 will probably have better value for money for 1080p
>>54638028
That's because barely anyone has a 1440p monitor retard. Video game graphics isn't some thing that just magically gets better. The developers chose the level of graphics so that "ultra" with a top of the line card will run at ~60fps on the most common resolutions. Once 4k monitors become common, then games will be made to run at those resolutions, regardless of if we've had 2x or 20x performance increase by then.
>>54638049
Same goes for you, "future proof" is such a stupid phrase. The only way something gets "future proof" is if technology stops advancing.
>>54638077
>>54638125
Are you retarded?
You have to realize that review benchmarks are run with 4xAA at 4k and other silly settings that nobody in the real world would actually use. There are graphics settings on modern games that literally cut your fps in half but provide virtually no visual difference.
Cards as expensive as a 1080 are meant for 4k gaming. For 1080p it's extreme overkill.
>>54637676
>2 1080s make 2160
how much is this worth (when it drops in price) when 1080 comes out?
>>54638229
We'll see, considering >Europe the card will most likely be sold at 500€. Gotta wait to see if some will panic sell their 980Ti. Seems unlikely given the prices and the "meh" factor around the 1080 now that the benches are out.
>>54638384
>try witty post
>delete it
>>54638295
doesn't matter how expensive they are, they're not ready for 4k
>>54638361
>>54638171
You guys are so fucking retarded.
1. All you need to do is look at an aggregate benchmark and divide the score/fps of the card with the price. The one with the highest FPS/dollar is the best. It's literally that simple. If they're even, choose the newer card since it has more features that will be relevant for longer
2. If you had any experience, not just with gfx cards but technology in general, you would know that last gen pretty much never drops to competitive prices when a new gen is released.
>>54638435
Even a 390 can do 4k @ medium settings.
A 1080 can easily do 4k on max settings with the only exceptions being a few unoptimized games in which you have to maybe turn the shadows or grass detail down to high instead of ultra.
>>54638473
>competitive
There is no competition.
>>54638424
>wow someone made a mistake
>shit never happens, what a retard!
>>54638492
Competitive against the new generation from the same company retard
>>54638491
>unoptimized
Most people who use this have no fucking clue about anything.
Path-tracing is some of the most optimized rendering code there is, yet you will get about 0.1 FPS on consumer hardware
>>54638491
>A 1080 can easily do 4k on max settings with the only exceptions being a few unoptimized games in which you have to maybe turn the shadows or grass detail down to high instead of ultra.
sounds delusional as fuck
if you can do it 60+ fps on relevant games i'm sold
Which one?
>EVGA
>MSI
>GIGABYTE?
and why?
>>54638557
The one that performs the best once reviews are out retard.
Don't be a brand-cuck
>>54638557
gigabyte because evga is shit (only good for customer support and tradeups, not for the hardware itself) and msi is shit tier chink shit (people only think msi is good because they had semi-fanless gtx 970 but with coil whine for cheap)
>>54638577
not buying a 1080 meme card, I'm going to buy a 980Ti + price drop
>>54638592
1070/1080 is mandatory for vr and multi monitor at least
>>54638536
It can 4k@60fps every single game on the market on at least high settings. 97% of games on ultra.
People have been running 5760*1080 monitor setups on a single 680 or 7970 5 years ago.
>>54638617
>People have been running 5760*1080 monitor setups on a single 680 or 7970 5 years ago.
lmfao surely you're having a laugh m8
maybe on old games but not modern (even 680-7970 era) games
>>54638617
also
>It can 4k@60fps every single game on the market on at least high settings. 97% of games on ultra.
funny how nvidia demoed at 1080p then, you don't think they would have mentioned 4k gaming?
>>54638610
VR is meme, and so is multi monitor shit
>>54638615
I can get a 980Ti for less than 500 euros
>>54638536
I run 980 SLI and I run most of my games at 60 FPS. Most run at 40-50 on Ultra settings, so it doesn't take a huge bump. A 1080 will perform very similarly when overclocked.
The only time I have issues is shit like in tomb raider where geothermal valley runs like absolute ass.
A good comparison point would be a 380 running 1080p. If you overclock or dial down settings 60 FPS is very achievable in nearly every title on the market right now.
>>54638682
Which is still worse FPS/dollar than a third party 1080 retard
>>54638666
That's because Nvidia is demoing the card to retards.
On their actual product page they even listed the recommended resolution for the fucking 980 as 4K, let alone the 1080.
>>54638691
gtx 1080 is barely better than 980 SLI, 40-50 fps is not ok, that's what you'd expect after owning it for several years, not on launch day
>>54638698
are you sure?
>>54638642
Are you 12 years old? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctOR-Bf-3Ps
>>54638666
Nvidia's marketing strategy is to convince poorfags with cheap ass 1080p monitors to spend all their money on a new GPU instead of buying a new monitor.
980
or
1070?
Performance wise, not price
>>54638725
The GTX 1080 is on average 5-10% slower than 980 SLI. 980 SLI also overclocks ~15-20% while it remains to be seen what kind of performance gains the 1080 will see from overclocking. (Due to lower IPC)
40-50 FPS on ultra settings is perfectly playable. 60 with minor reductions is absolutely playable.
In the history of PC gaming it has never been common place for high end videos to run perfect 60 FPS on brand new ultra settings titles. Maybe we had a couple years in the twilight years of the PS3/360, but go back a decade and that wasn't the case.
Here's a good example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUt3z9Hr6RA
This is the kind of performance a high end 2006 PC would have got you in the most common resolution.
>>54638786
1070
>>54638786
>500€ for the 1070
If it doesn't floor the 980 (which shouldn't be hard), NVidia can put that card up their ass.
I can get a 980Ti for €475. should I?
fuck i hate /g/
bunch of poorfag kids that can only see the world from their own perspective
you don't think a rock solid 60 fps is nice? you don't think 120+ fps is nice? stay mad at those sour grapes
>>54638732
It's outperforming the Ti by almost 20% on average. And that's the reference design on a card that looks very overclockable
MRSP of 600$ -20% is 428€.
Did you drop out of high school?
>>54638829
MSRP for the 1070 """should""" be around 500€. If the 1070 is on par with the 980Ti...
>>54638850
>MRSP of 600$
>using the performance of a 699 card
>using the MSRP of 600 as example
Is 1060 a thing? Currently have a 960 and it's mostly good enough, probably will switch to 1070 though
>>54638857
>If the 1070 is on par with the 980Ti...
see >>54638732
the 980Ti is almost on par with the 1080
>>54638850
>20% on average
wrong. see: >>54638732
>>54638892
not yet, eventually
>>54638873
>a 699 card
That's the reference design I was talking about retard, the 3rd party ones will be both cheaper and faster because nvidia decided to cash in on early adopter faggots.
Let me guess, you haven't actually read anything but you still go on /g/ and call people stupid for knowing more than you
>>54638916
that was the post I was quoting retard. Do the numbers yourself
Can't you guys count? We know IPC of Pascal, we know core and bus of 1070 and we know number of cores.
It's trash.
>>54638894
>the 980Ti is almost on par with the 1080
According to HW.fr benches (yes I'm that filthy frog) with all the superfluous stuff at 1440p, it's 30% more performances than a reference 980Ti, and 18% over the EVGA SC+ version. Obviously if you live in Europe you get the short end of the stick pricing wise anyway, but 475€ new seems like a good deal regardless if the 1070 is in between the 980 and the 980Ti for 500€ (which wouldn't be a good value IMO).
>>54638077
Your eyes can't tell the difference between 60 and 120 fps.
>>54638986
but his autism can
>>54638986
for you
linus did a test on it too, he can see the difference
>>54638071
A 980ti still cant run modded skyrim at a solid 60 frames at 1080p. The 1080 will be a great skyrim card though due to the memory advantage, as skyrim can eat upwards of 16gb vram. Def go for the 1080
on youtube, i instantly notice if it's 60 fps video instead of 30 fps, the difference is dramatic even for video, and for games it's not only about the visuals, it's about latency too and the "feel" of the game
And I feel completely fine with my GTX 950 that cost me the equivalent of $75 in a store liquidation here in beanland.
>>54639021
>modded skyrim
>this meme in the current year
>>54637902
Jaggies haven't been a thing since maxed out AA at sensible 1080p screen sizes. 4K is a fucking scam. Enjoy your washed out medium detail textures and "playable" fps.
>>54638996
>>54639004
This reminds me of the audiophile madness. Many people claim they can distinguish 44 kHz and 96 kHz.
Soon you might need some gold-plated DP cables.
>>54639075
Not even memes. Truly that game eats videocards like nothing else, and is more intense than any other triple A release in the past five years.
>>54635923
And this all relies on the board partners being chill with taking $379 after watching people gobble up the shitters edition for $450. Realistically, it's going to be $425. Calling it.
>>54639125
You did that on purpose just trying to get some ``muh OCD'' reaction, didn't you?
>>54639118
jn.physiology.org/content/83/6/3548
stay mad at them grapes retard
>people will buy the 1080 for 599/699
>the 1080 Ti will cuck them all
>but will cost $1K
>>54639157
Well someone fell for it ;P
Why wouldn't I just wait for Polaris?
It will play all the games on very high/ultra settings for a bit less + I can pair it with a great zen for no bottleneck.
>>54639125
it's a shitty game and the mods are made by amateurs
>>54639182
>Why wouldn't I just wait for Polaris?
because you're a retard itching to waste his money and can't wait for the 27th
>>54639182
>Why wouldn't I just wait for Polaris?
if you're a poorfag the polaris might be ok but wait for the benchmarks
>I can pair it with a great zen for no bottleneck
zen is a meme and you should spend more on the gpu than the cpu for games
>>54639200
>$0.02 has been deposited to your shill account in bank of pakistan
![13963343195_4ae6e76708_k[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2k9wVir.jpg "13963343195_4ae6e76708_k[1].jpg")
>>54639084
>maxed out AA
The best AA method is super/downsampling, which is literally rendering at 4k (or even more) and shrinking to 1080p. That is the main thing that makes "bullshots" look so much better than the actual game. It also improves all the shaders, which traditional AA doesn't.
Here's a downsampled ingame screenshot. No AA method can achieve the same result.
>>54639126
I mean for one thing, just look at that gap disparity. Why the fuck would it be bigger between the 1070 and 980ti (which perform almost the same) than even the 980ti and 1080, which are leagues apart. Rescinding my initial claim of $425, good non reference coolers of the 1070 are probably going to end up going for at least $440. Especially when the vast majority of people prefer non reference.
Bold move by nvidia, generating hype with awesome pricing and then putting the responsibility on the partners to actually meet that price while they exorbitantly milk the teat.
I do hope I'm wrong, I want cheap performance. But let's be realistic.
>>54639084
Then why aren't you playing on 320x480 with everything including AA maxed on a 200$ computer, retard? Think of all the money you can save
>>54639283
Well thier sales will suffer if this is true, with people opting for used thingies.
>>54635923
>He thinks the 1070 will be only $379
I bet you believe in the Easter Bunny as well.
>>54639226
you can make a bloated game with any number of features to grind any system down to a halt, so what
>>54639238
>>54639084
In case it wasn't clear, you are fucking retarded if you think rendering at a high rez and shrinking it (1080p) looks just as good as not shrinking it at all (4k).
Do you think upscaled 720p and 1080i is awesome too?
>>54639335
wasn't the 970 around that price
>>54639313
Or the used prices will jump back up. Bargain hunting is become a dead market with too many bargain hunters out there. People are greedy as a whole, and we only seem to be perfecting it as time passes. Granted, with more subtlety and less direct cruelty, which is good, I suppose.
>>54639369
No retard, I do not think that. I understand how AA works. In case I wasn't clear, being able to play at a smooth 100+ fps is more important than your precious native 4K. Wake me up when we can actually enjoy 4K.
>>54638786
1070 has 75% of the CUDA cores of 1080 + slower memory and lower clockspeed. So at best it'll perform 25% slower than 1080. You do the math.
>>54639313
>>54639416
>>54639226
>cock-loving faggot posting gay shit
This isn't /g/ for /g/ays. Go back to >>>/y/
>>54638809
It's already confirmed to be faster than a 980ti
>>54639445
>smooth 100+ fps is more important
depends on the game, but I also prefer framerate over resolution in general
>Wake me up when we can actually enjoy 4K.
Why? You said 4k was a scam, have you changed your mind to agree with me now?
Also you already can "actually enjoy" it in pretty much every game pre 2008
>>54639416
the question is if it will have the raw horsepower to even do whatever the cancer is that you're doing with all that memory
not even modded skyrim looks all that great, does it?
>>54639447
nice reading there buddo
>>54638924
>the 3rd party ones will be both cheaper and faster
We do not have any actual indication of their pricing other than Nvidia's recommended price and the price of the reference card at $699. They might actually get priced at the MSRP, but it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if the actual price turned out to be higher.
>>54639283
Samefag, by the way. To add to the nvidia 5 year plan, they're probably hoping the customers blame the board partners. Regardless, it seems like a win-lose-lose situation is inevitable, at best. I just hope we as consumers end up being the winners.
I really hope AMD brings some good specs and prices to the table. Even with first polaris being mid to low end, if it's priced cheaply enough they could shake up prices.
>>54639370
It was $349. These morons are talking shit as usual.
>>54639490
Waiting for the benches.
>>54639490
See >>54639447
It's going to be slower than 980ti, and Nvidia can shove their marketing slides.
>>54639487
I only like dicks when they're on women, faggot
Cute, thick feminine dicks that makes your mouth water from looking at them, not these homo-ass gay dicks
>>54639567
why don't you post some screenshots instead of that fag shit
and i don't think you realize just how much 4-16 GB is even when it comes to uncompressed textures
![aSENfYTGk8HVwDYNheVq4F-650-80[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/CgFCtWH.jpg "aSENfYTGk8HVwDYNheVq4F-650-80[1].jpg")
>>54639524
>Let me guess, you haven't actually read anything but you still go on /g/ and call people stupid for knowing more than you
Thank you for confirming that I was right and that you're a retard
>>54639509
4K is a scam now, that's what I'm saying. Obviously it's theoretically superior, I'm not denying that. Historically early adopters paid a steep price for new tech but got something tangible in return for it. I don't see that benefit yet for 4K when frame rates are still so low. The trade off isn't worth it, not to mention UI headaches.
>>54639524
Yeah, because graphics cards end up costing 30% more than the MSRP all the time. Is this your first card launch?
>>54639598
Are you genuinely incapable of comprehending that MSRP does not necessarily mean the price at which they'll be sold?
>>54639645
>what is the gtx 970
>>54639645
If you have any numbers from another launch where the reference cards were intentionally sold at above MSRP, by all means show them.
>>54639627
>4K is a scam now
I've been downsampling from 4k @120hz for 3 years retard. It's better in every way. If there was an actual 4k monitor that could run 120hz it would be even better.
>>54639645
They'll sell at whatever price the market dictates. Retailers don't give a fuck.
>>54639706
what are the mods even doing, just post a freaking screenshot, and you do you have any idea how much 4 GB is, like your png image, it's less than 1 MB, you could have THOUSANDS of those images on your graphics card, what are you even doing with them?
>>54639688
They specifically explained how "founders edition" is a new thing and priced above 3rd party designs
>>54639732
and the "titan cooler" was always more expensive than the typical plastic cooler so it's entirely plausible that 3rd party cards will be cheaper, they could use custom pcbs and different onboard components etc too
>>54639690
>It's better in every way except frame rate, the metric we actually judge playability by
No shit, fuccboi. I think we're done here.
>>54639709
Which obviously means it's not going to be priced so high that nobody buys it because the 980ti is a better deal
>>54639732
Yes, and if the retailers think that means they can ask more for non-reference designs, they will. Like when 290x prices inflated during bitcoin craze.
>>54639765
>I've been downsampling from 4k @120hz
>@120hz
can't you read?
>>54637900
I'm sketch as fuck, but this looks more legit than most shit. It even has a certain shitty boardroom meme feel to it without actually being shitty looking. Persistent rumors were 390x performance at half the wattage for under $300, so shit. Hope it's real, you mischief maker.
>>54639785
but they can't ask more for them because then people buy 900-series cards instead
>>54639787
144hz is the only way anon
>>54637593
>nvidja
>>54637912
>>54637931
I love you guys.
>>54639807
That's actually a GOOD thing for the retailers. They'll want to get rid of that inventory ANYWAY, now that it's being replaced with Pascal.
I have an Asus motherboard so I have to buy the Asus GTX 1070, I hope it's not too expensive in Euros
>>54639814
>not a multiple of 30
>>54638029
I agree, but they obviously wouldn't have called it that in company. Someone probably added it for context. Compare the red title to the rest of the picture.
I'm 85% sure it's not real. But you never know. Look's slidey and shitty enough.
>>54639860
Retailers don't actually own the merchandise. It's actually like ebay.
>>54639903
you wot
>>54639860
You're still stupid or underage, since at every card launch, the prices of the old gen never quite drop to competitive levels, but retards like you still buy them thinking WOW 30% OFF WHAT A DEAL
>>54639732
Holy kek, buzzwords must be like candy to you. You're the reason people buy "new and improved" snacks that taste worse.
>>54639926
Agreed
>>54639860
This. Like I said, bold move by nvidia. Let's see if it pays off, cotton.
![seal-gay[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/N8i2wPx.png "seal-gay[1].png")
>>54639899
he said
you're a homosexual.
>>54639949
>>54639927
Sound like you bought a card after clearance, when they jack it up for SLI/Xfire morons that buy out of producation cards.
>>54639927
>the prices of the old gen never quite drop to competitive levels
What does that have to do with anything? The retailers don't care about "competitive prices" they care about actually selling stuff. If they can achieve that without actually selling things for what they're worth, so much for the better.
>>54639929
You can't read properly. I put it in quotation marks to show I'm quoting nVidias marketing gibberish. Also you can try following the quotechain to understand context before posting your knee-jerk reaction
>>54639986
>What does that have to do with anything?
Because the entire argument started with retards thinking this is a golden opportunity to buy a 980ti. Read before you post
![1419266641149[1].webm](https://i.imgur.com/ZkUS86N.jpg "1419266641149[1].webm")
>>54638557
Not gigabyte, at least not fucking windforce. Their fans and redesigns are usually balls these days. EVGA is great, especially if you need what's basically a really fucking good reference blower. Solid, expensive. B stock used to be a viable option, pretty swamped these days. MSI is never a bad bet, red or green, unless you're talking instructional videos. ASUS is pretty good for green, not so much for red lately it seems.
Sapphire is undisputed champ on the solely AMD side. PowerColor apparently came out with some shit that was incredible for the price, but I was always wary. XFX used to be awesome, heard design is still decent to great, but customer service has slipped and and i think no more lifetime warranty.
Should I sell my 770 and 780 Ti SLI now? Or is it too late for that?
>>54640240
What about Visiontek
>>54640436
Love how they put the last guy who bought the 390x on the cover.
>>54640249
I think too late, 780Ti already drop on 200 €. I don't think they drop below 180 after the new cards release, they are overpriced and don't give more performance. I'm hoping to get 220 for my heavy OC Gigabyte model.
770 SLI is garbage if its 2 GB. And DONT buy 1080. Buy 1080Ti. And wait, there are rumors the Ti starts at 1000 €, but I think they will release the Titan first.
>>54640524
I'm buying two 1070s to replace my 970s when they're out. My 980 Tis will wait until the 1080 Ti inevitably launches, which they will to plow Vega out of the fucking water.
>>54640554
>970 SLI
There is your problem. 1080Ti is superior to 1070 SLI, look 970 SLI vs 980Ti. Even if they don't have that memory problem.
Why do you have 980Ti and 970 SLI?
>>54640577
I have 970s and 980 Tis in SLI, which replaced my 770s and 780 Tis in SLI.
>>54637660
It will be close to the 970, not 1070
>>54637900
>Vega (HBM2)
>under $500
Nvidia is fucked lol.
>>54640597
>970 performance for $300
>in the age of 16nm Pascal
Why does AMD even bother?
>>54640594
Why do you then have the old cards? Never have good cards lying around. Even 770 gave up to 180 € some weeks ago, but its over now, many people sell their old shit because of the Nvidia marketing. I'm still hoping to get a 980Ti cheap around 300 €.
I'm running 4K on the 780Ti, which is mostly limited by the VRAM.
>>54640631
>Why do you then have the old cards?
Because I replaced them once Maxwell came out
>>54640645
I think what he's asking is why you STILL have them and didn't sell them much sooner.
>>54640869
I don't normally sell my old PC parts, but having cards that old not even as back-ups is a waste of shelf space. I also need to make room for my old ASUS Z97 and i7-4770K once Kaby Lake comes out as well and I swap my Devil's Canyon into my secondary gaming PC.
>>54640621
Wut. Do you know what a price point is? Let alone price/perf.
>>54640597
>Close to the 970
Which basically means near 980, over or under it for less money which isn't hard since the 980 is highway robbery and AMD basically has no choice until next year.
>>54638259
>The only way something gets "future proof" is if technology stops advancing.
One word: consoles.
A 4GB 380 will take you all the way to the release of the PS5, which of course will be years after the PS4K.
>>54640597
>It will be close to the 970
Are you fucking retarded?
AMD already has a $300 card faster than the 970, you idiot. It's the R9 390.
Do you think they will release a new card that performs the same at the same price point, brainless worm?
>>54642121
>Do you think they will release a new card that performs the same at the same price point
Are you saying that AMD is actually competent and not run by blind, deaf, and lead-drinking buffoons?
Top jej
>>54642145
Compared to Nvidia, which brought us the 3.5 GB disaster, gimps older cards to force their customers to upgrade, and has every game their gameworks program touches become a pile of crap, AMD does seem like a pinacle of competence.
>>54635923
wow. they're really trying to milk it huh
amd will still beat it
>>54640645
Yes but you sell cards you don't use anymore.
Pro-tip: Donate me at least one of the 780Tis, so I can make SLI. The VRAM will kill it but at least I can try to run Battleborn above 30 FPS.
I just got this 970 for $200. Did I do good?
EVGA already announce a ricer version of GTX1080 for $699.
GTX 1080 price for Nvidia partners will most likely hover around $650 region.
>>54642738
>200
>970
I would.
>>54640554
sli is no good, especially these days, get a single good top end gpu
>>54642738
>$200
fucking good
>spending over $100 on a video card
Go watch movies, kids. Your graphic clusterfuck "games" aren't good and not worth paying a shitfuck of money to play.
>>54643446
>movies
Capefag
>>54643446
you forgot that they only last 8 hours and have no replay value or if they last more than 8 hours they're a broken mess that need the modding community to fix them.
![irreversible-movie-poster-2002-1020668432[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/y0dmgPv.jpg "irreversible-movie-poster-2002-1020668432[1].jpg")
>>54643556
>only capefag movies exist
>there isn't a vast library of movies that span almost 100 years
weird.
>>54643446
shitty bait
going to the cinema is like $20+ each time and it's a lackluster experience that only lasts a couple of hours
>>54643557
>if they last more than 8 hours they're a broken mess that need the modding community to fix them.
what is final fantasy
>>54643581
fuck off tard, movies and games are apples and oranges, so what if you like watching movies, fuck off idiot
>>54643590
>final fantasy
>sequels
>to a game that shouldn't have had sequels
>that is shit
>that is just japanese weebshit that tries to hard
it's a shit series by the way, you know because it's absolute shit only played by weebs and tryhards
>>54639881
>not a multiple of 24
Sure is pleb in this thread
Can't wait for the 16 viewports in hardware.
I have a GTX 670, should I upgrade to 1070 when it comes out? Is 1080 worth the extra money?
>>54644731
For VR apps that support the new 16 viewports in hardware... definitely. The 10xx series will blow the fuck out of every other thing out there. Imagine no performance hits for 4 view ports used for pre-distortion and final mapping for stereoscopic vision. Nothing else will be able to touch this.
>>54644731
I say wait till the generation after this to upgrade unless you really want to do VR
>>54637569
u tell me fermi
>>54644776
>unless you really want to do VR
Why would you not want to? The 180/360 porn alone is worth it. Flying an F-15 from inside the cockpit? VR is definitely what you want.
>>54645239
>paying $40 for standing up and playing wii games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ0JTkBZdyw
>>54636352
>>54636352
TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY SIX BIT MEMORY BUS
>>54638557
Zotac
>>54645281
>Memory technology sees a major update with NVIDIA's adoption of the GDDR5X memory standard. The memory is clocked at a staggering 10 GHz effective, at which speed the GPU has 320 GB/s of memory bandwidth over a 256-bit wide memory interface. Such bandwidths were only possible with 384-bit or 512-bit GDDR5 memory interfaces. First-generation HBM being restricted to 4 GB, HBM2 not being readily available, and HBM-class stacked memory being more expensive to deploy (using on-chip silicon substrates) could have contributed to NVIDIA's decision to go with GDDR5X for the GeForce GTX 1080.
>>54645362
it's never at the full 10GHz, that's the effective memory clock.
That being said, Nvidia could just be talking shit out their ass again like they usually do (remember FERMI)
aoj
>retard
>>54645239
>being an early adopter
>>54637900
>classified screenshot
we /hackerman/ here
>>54643446
Mass Effect is. I watch movies too but the new ones are shit like the new games.
>check on amazon
>800$ with shipping include
>check local prices
>1100$
>300$ to buy locally
fuck the country and loyalty and all that stupid shit I'm not getting robbed
>>54643586
>going to the theater
The real bait here is you
>>54643606
>it's a shit series
>Stop liking what i don't like
>Memes
>weebs
This post is full of troll and it's fucking painful. (you)
![tumblr_m5o1u5nbog1rv4c4zo1_500[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/RavTzGS.jpg "tumblr_m5o1u5nbog1rv4c4zo1_500[1].jpg")
>>54645764
>being this butthurt about the cancer that is JRPGs
plz don't stab with gunsword
>>54635923
you guys think the 1060 will have 6gb vram? Or should I just buy a 960 now?
>>54646865
get the 4GB version of the 960, if not, get a 380 or even a 950 or 370x
>>54635923
look im just gonna get another 980 and sli them :^)
>>54647238
Kikevidya cucks
EVERY
FUCKING
TIME
>>54647238
async compute is not a crucial feature, it doesn't add anything, it's only performance-related. what matters is the end result.
amd gets a slight perf increase because of its shitty drivers that underutilize the gpu resources, while nvidia get little to no perf increase because the hardware is already being utilized quite well.
>>54645726
then the same argument about spending more than $100 on a graphics card could be made about spending more than $1000 on a tv. for a htpc you need decent hardware anyway, people said they were buying gtx 1080 to watch freaking anime
>>54647818
>async compute is not a crucial feature, it doesn't add anything
so you're saying something that distributes computing power between it's cores more efficiently doesn't do anything?
>amd gets a slight perf increase because of its shitty drivers that underutilize the gpu resources, while nvidia get little to no perf increase because the hardware is already being utilized quite well.
how come it looses frames and gains nothing in DX12 and vulkan then? (^:
>>54647869
it doesn't add anything tangible to the game, it's only a performance tweak that works for some cards (amd) and doesn't work for others (nvidia). nvidia cards already utilizes their cores more efficiently so async compute is unnecessary. and the perf increase on amd is overhyped anyway, what matters is the what performance you get out of the card in the end. and async compute fucks with the cache because you're juggling multiple things at once instead of doing one thing really efficiently. async compute is a total meme.
>>54647923
>doesn't add anything
>improves AMD performance
You're contradicting yourself. AMD even gave the Mantle source to Nvidia for free so they can adjust their drivers to work with it, they refused.
>Async compute fucks with cache
it also utilizes more of the PCI-E bus since all the cores can communicate with the GPU instead of just one core/thread doing all the work till it needs help from other threads
>>54647955
>improves AMD performance
it doesn't add anything to the game, all it is is a performance tweak, if nvidia performs better without it, it's no problem to turn it off, nothing of value was lost
>>54647984
>it doesn't add anything to the game
>it also utilizes more of the PCI-E bus since all the cores can communicate with the GPU instead of just one core/thread doing all the work till it needs help from other threads
>adds nothing to the game
>>54648017
kill yourself idiot
it doesn't add any more space ships or projectiles or anything, fuck's sake
>>54648035
>improves performance by utilizing both the CPU and GPU making sure they communicate and use the PCI-E bus
>doesn't add to the gameplay experience
>more frames
>a bad thing
>>54648035
>it doesn't add any more space ships or projectiles or anything
kek
>>54635923
>2016
>plan to buy pascal
>don't wait to polaris
>>54648045
fucking autist, if the gtx 1080 is more powerful than for example amd polaris, it doesn't matter if the amd card has async compute, the gtx 1080 will still provide a better gameplay experience
>>54638733
Lmfao this so true. I run 2 290's which cost me £450 combined and at 4k I can get 60 fps on any game if I turn down some settings. Naything more than 2x aa at 4K is completely pointless and some other useless shit. Looks a lot better than running at 1080p and I spent less on GPU's than nvidiots lol.
>>54648066
>Both SLi and CrossFire have an additional frame of input latency since they use AFR, Alternate Frame Rendering.
stay cucked
>>54648064
>1080
>not just a 20% improvement as usual
>has all that computing power behind an abstraction layer that only works with gameworks, CUDA and random Nvidia proprietary shit
>using a single thread to send info the to GPU till it gets overwhelmed and needing another thread
>inefficiently using the PCI-E lane
>being this mad that Nvidia can't do something AMD did 5 years ago
>>54648101
>1080
>outperforming any AMDshit by far, almost on par with the 2.5x as expensive, 2x as power consuming amd pro duo in frame rate with less latency and microstutter
ok idiot
>>54648063
Waiting for some fucking 120W card, expects it to beat pascal.
Fucking AMDrones everyone
>>54648132
I mean, that's what they said for Fermi, look how that worked out
>>54635923
>970 matched 780ti without a die shrink
>1070 with a die shrink will not match 980ti
AMDcucks actualy believe this
>>54637485
>>54637539
Polaris 11 is the laptop chip that runs on less than 50W.
Polaris 10 is a 390x on a 256bit bus for $250 with half the power usage.
>>54648156
>last years performance with low power consumption
That looks really attractive, time to throw some money at that sidegrade
