Much like the DJ/Producer of yesteryear, programming, aka "making apps" has become the latest must-have personality accessory.
a verb can't be an accessory, OP. nouns can be an accessory.
It seems to be so
>>54612400
OP is still a faggot.
>>54612421
You mean like code?
>>54612600
"code" has multiple definitions, some of which render it a verb and some rendering it a noun.
you should take english classes next semester, ramesh.
>>54612621
>apples are sometimes green and sometimes red
>you claim that apples are green so you should take english classes
>>54612638
honestly dude, you need to take english classes. get off 4chan and register at a community college or something. i can't be your correspondence course.
>>54612400
why does it bother some people that coding and making apps have a broader reach in the public
>>54612743
It causes average salaries of developers to drop and helps make the "everything is an app"-meme a reality
>>54612400
tf u at?
>>54612654
babby's first insult
>>54612778
If you're not a shitter this is of no worry
>>54613021
I know, but I was just explaining to you why some people are bothered by it
t: non-shitter
>>54613021
>>54613065
It does though, if you have a basic understanding of economics. Even if you consider yourself far superior to shitty devs, the ones displaced at the bottom will compete for the almost bottom dev market with lower salaries, and those displaced there will reach for a higher market and so on, until finally some guy who is slightly shittier than you are does your job for a lot less. There's nothing inherently wrong with this though, we've seen it coming the last 30 years or so.
>>54612778
Nobody worth a damn should worry though. Most people that have this "I can code apps!!! :)))" mentality are shit tier worse than poo in loo developers. If you're any good, this will just create a bigger disparity between discount devs and the professionals. You'll probably get paid more.
>>54612400
>2 space tab
Ugh
>>54612400
>JavaScript
>>54613370
I know right, 3 is so much better.
>>54612421
you seem to forget that stretch in the late 90s-early 2000s when literally everyone with a macbook instantly became a DJ
it's like that, except now they're all coding apps using Visual Code
i mean Visual Studio
>>54613709
You mean atom, right? Its what all the hipsters use
>>54613739
is that Visual Code??
i mean Visual Studio
is that Visual Studio??
>>54613194
This is true, in already experiencing this on the IT side of things. I'm a systems engineer with a CS background and basically I'm a devops meme. People in this line of work that can actually write code are really rare, and as such I was hired by one of the big software companies that only hires top talent and even within here I'm seen as some sort of God. I don't even do anything all that impressive, but within my department and org I'm a wizard.
>>54612400
>he bought into the 'function' meme instead of =>
>>54613670
fuck that. it's a full 5 space real tab or nothing
>>54612421
> making apps
The 'making' is not a verb, it's a gerund formed from the verb 'make'.
Learn some English.
>>54613757
it's Atom in the OP.
>>54613775
yeah i know what you mean because i experienced that too.
i didn't take it too seriously though, because A) in my line of work, most peolpe were non-technical, and B: most people were probably just being slightly autistic, trying to be over-nice and overcome their prejudice and stereotypes of "tech people" or something stupid
>>54613833
>gerund
not in that context, fucko
>>54613829
Bro it's all about 11.3 space indentations
>>54613852
kek
>>54613851
> "making apps" has become the latest...
Yes, it clearly is a gerund, fucko.
>personality accessory
Not knowing how to say 'affectation'
>>54613833
did u just learn some shit in a language calss and want to shitpost to make urself feel better?
>>54613891
It's called an education.
>>54613886
oh fugg!
i actually agree that >>54612421 was wrong, and saw your post out of context
sorry fampai
>>54612600
>le shit font rendering
>>54612400
wtf is this it('should ', ...) bullshit? Why not just make regular fucking comments?
Or am I missing something?
>>54612400
>people have productive hobbies
the horror
>>54612400
>apple
>starbucks
>atom
You gotta wear that uniform, know what I bean?
>>54612400
And still neo-/g/ can't into programming.
The average Starbucks hipster is more tech-literate then this board.
>>54616524
Rewriting an existing shit-tier piece of software is didactic at best and masturbatory at worst.
>>54612400
>go to starbucks
>half the people there are on their laptops
>they're all using macbooks
>they're either writing novels of writing javascript
Fucking hell, this shit is too fucking real.
>>54618544
>want to get into web dev
>not a hipster
>not an sjw
>not gay
>not a tranny
>not a 'girl coder'
>not a poser
>avoid Apple on principle
>don't drink coffee
Wtf where did all these weirdos come? I just want to make cool websites like I browsed as a nerdy kid ten years ago.
>>54618544
ur first mistake was going to starbucks
FUCKEN NORMIE
>>54621570
>using term normie at all
It doesn't even sound derogatory you faggots
>>54612400
Writing apps is hard as fuck. I can't believe how terrible Android and iOS dev tools are
>>54612400
I'm kinda glad the whole 12 year old music producer fad is on its last legs. Soundcloud and EDM in general suffered immensely.
Why eveyone is rushing into the whole code artisan business is beyond me though. The hype for apps has gone down immensely, even google is retreating back into web apps.
>>54613775
> People in this line of work that can actually write code are really rare, and as such I was hired by one of the big software companies that only hires top talent and even within here I'm seen as some sort of God.
What kind of stupid company hires non-coders for a job that requires coding?
Beginner here, what would you say is the best way to surpass the trend of "sjw/javascriptmaster/htmlgod/wantsonlyworkatgoogle/etc..." and become an actual proper programmer??
>>54621993
Learn C
>>54621993
Don't buy any computer textbook made after the year 2000.
>>54621993
crossdress
>>54621993
Start with K&R C and SICP
>>54618544
Now they can combine both https://www.npmjs.com/package/novel-js
>>54613852
1 tab = 6 spaces
Anything else is wrong
>>54622180
> Don't buy any computer textbook
ftfy
>>54621993
first, don't give a shit what constitutes an "actual programmer." what are your interests? knowledge of the domain you're interested in is probably more important than programming itself, use programming as abstract tooling to "do shit" or "solve problems" you're interested in
>>54622290
also don't take advice from 4chan. explore your options. if you learn some stupid shit like javascript you'll prolly be better paid than the detractors here
>>54622290
>booklearnin is fer neerds!
>>54621993
learn a high level language (like python) and learn a low level language (like C). From there, just expand your knowledge base as much as possible. And if for some reason you do start making websites or web applications, don't dye your hair pink or something fucking stupid.
Basically what separates "actual programmers" from meme programmers are the fact that actual programmers spend their days writing stuff whereas the meme programmers post pics of their IDE on snapchat, twitter, and instagram while writing the most basic shit.
>>54622290
Thanks, really appreciated
>>54622412
Got it.
Thank you.
>>54622409
no. read lots of books. -paying money for books- is totally unnecessary, when all of the shit you need is available for free from places like libgen
>>54612778
>It causes average salaries of developers to drop and helps make the "everything is an app"-meme a reality
your mistake for falling for the CS meme after the boat sailed decades ago.
>>54621993
There is an odd high demand of "learning to code with ___" apps for some reason. I use them everytime I want to learn a new lang.
>>54622840
>let me make it a point to post that theft is an option.
underage ban?
>>54622975
if you paid money for all or any of your CS texts, that's a huge fucking waste. going for the "im a retard" argument i see
technology and CS curriculum texts are a literal racket.
tons of shit is available explicitly for free, without piracy, as well
>>54612743
Man I'm just a massive autist who dislikes shit like the OP pic. It gives off a vibe of "It's not about writing code, it's about telling everyone I did!".
Kind of like the people who go to coffee shops to write novels but never actually produce anything
>>54623047
>he was raised with morals
>lets insult his intelligence.
Get out and socialize before you become a psychopath.
>>54623108
Oh no, the upstanding corporations, how will they survive. Thinks you should take your advice and
>get out
>>54612400
>majoring in CS
>there are people out there who didn't go into finance and finance/cs minor
>>54623477
>thinking you have a chance in finance without going to an Ivy
Finance is literally 95% old-boy connections.
>>54612421
It is descriptive speech, not literal. You need to read more literature. I dunno, something with spark and imagery and allegory. Perhaps "Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test" by Wolfe, or "Naked Lunch" by Burroughs.
>>54612400
about to finish my first semester of a CS course,
basically you get a 4/4 if you spaghetti code, which is to be expected i guess, but you don't get any extra marks for putting extra thought and care into writing modular code, which, albeit expected, is kind of unfair
>>54618705
>avoid apple
dont ever say that in an interview theyll know your power level at that point
>>54612743
Because trendy chucklefucks who are only in it for the money, attention or some romanticized narrative an HR recruiter threw at them at a job fair are annoying as fuck and produce shit quality products.
They produce nothing of real value but blog about it like they do.
What little they do make is inefficient garbage written in even more inefficient interpreted language.
They push "progress" for the sake of progress, shit like JS-bloated websites full of tacky animations, shitty "minimal" design with laughably low information density, obnoxious acronyms and buzzword terminology, and constant wasteful consumption of technology for fear of not looking hip enough to their other hipster friends.
Most importantly, they have no passion for what they do, they're disgusted by the idea of exploring technology if they can't blog about it to look cool, and yet they have the audacity to think they're hot shit at anything but being a tool.
>>54625683
you bought the blocking javascript is cucking my life meme?
>>54624472
can you point to an example of using a gerund to describe a tangible noun the way "accessory" uses it in the OP post?
i'm not trying to be combative; it's just that when someone uses rhetorical devices in a *new* way, the options are generally
>broke the rules because they didn't understand them (pajeet or child)
or
>broke the rules fully knowing what they were doing (shakespeare or steinbeck status)
and we're all apparently assuming that the OP is the latter by default. which is crazy. we all know /g/ and 4chan too well to consider the pajeet option a foregone conclusion, don't we?
>>54613888
underrated trips
>>54612400
It has made a nice market for teaching code.
I like fucking with good looking people in my class.
Making them feel like complete shit.
Just to go full /r9k/ for a second, there is nothing quite like breaking a Chad's confidence when he realizes how fucking inept he is at something that is trendy. Then ridiculing him.
>>54625726
JavaScript is a shit tier hipster language and everyone knows it.
It is worse than RoR on the hipster trash it attracts
>mfw i get paid well over 6 figures to write javascript
>mfw i work on a macbook
stay mad/jelly, plebs
>>54625726
I can't even use a lot of mainstream sites on older systems with JS disabled to increase performance, even 4chan doesn't have a JS-less catalog despite it being something you can accomplish with tables and some back-end shit.
>>54625944
Where chad lacks in technical prowess, he makes up for in social skills.
By embarrassing people and being a smug shit about it, you inviting people to spread nasty rumors until you're on the street holding your box of desk nendoroids.
>>54623108
>paying for shit you can get for free
>morals
>>54612400
FL Studio has destroyed Electronic Music.
>>54626174
>>paying for shit you can get for free
I like your image choice, jamal.
Question for you 'real' programmers -
You internet badasses who learned C from a 50 year old book, who never touch pleb languages like js or ruby.
What have you ever created that others actually use?
>>54626037
tables are not so bad, i agree. people have gone through a lot of effort to recreate such a thing with garbage tools. i don't think they deserve the "laughing stock" perception they have at present
anyways. javascript is good to know even if the language itself is shit that was cobbled together in a week. there is loads and loads of stupid and indefensible decisions and it is largely a dumpster fire, sure, but most of technology is terrible. technological adoption is a social issue primarily, and for whatever reason history has decided it be popular despite it's numerous shortcomings. so knowing a little bit of it, even if it's bad, is probably in your best interest. at the very least things like React are actually good.
>>54626283
>I dont block all JS
lmao
>>54626283
What have you made, mr. javascript ninja?
>>54626323
uber for dicksucking
your mom is our most popular driver
>>54626283
We have created literally js and ruby, and python and any other ape machine language you can think of
>>54616980
Underrated post desu
>>54612421
>what is a gerund
>>54625726
>he writes blocking javascript
Have you discovered workers yet my friend?
