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https://youtu.be/TQYsl360v1A 1080 vs 980ti, this is just embarrassing
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https://youtu.be/TQYsl360v1A
1080 vs 980ti, this is just embarrassing fampai ;~;
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1080=unimpressive
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Thanks for the video, OP. I think thats what happens when non-paid unbiased person tests the card on his own PC. Seems legit.
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I wonder how nvidia fanboys will defend this, inb4 amd shills.
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>considering the opinion of an amd fanboy
>ever

>inb4 amdrones damage control
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>>54605034
I would've appreciated a little note to skip to 1 minute in to avoid his horrible shill section.
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>shilling your own vid on 4chan
Fuck you.
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Tek syndicate is basically an AMD shill.
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>>54606808
>>54607209
>damage control
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>>54606773
it was funny to watch, his tired voice makes it seem like he's bored of the ad himself.
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>>54605034
only fanboys thought pascal would be good
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Seriously though Pascal is one giant flop. Not only does it not deliver in the 2X better performance shillvydia claimed but it's a raging housefire.

GTX 1080: 2,560 Pascal cores @ ~1.6 - ~1.7 GHz
GTX 980ti: 2,816 Maxwell GM200 cores @ 1.0 - ~1.1 GHz

Just based on # of GPU cores and clock frequency we should have seen 50% better performance on the 1080 over the 980ti. We didn't and gpu architecture improvements should have boosted final raw performance to like 60-80% on the 1080 over the 980ti.

I am very disappointed with nvidia. I was planning to upgrade from my GTX 960 to a GTX 1080 but now I guess I won't. Let's hope polaris doesn't turn out to be total shit like Pascal.
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>>54607679
Pascal is literally housefire tier. Trust nvidia to fuck up with another die shrink. This is fermi all over again
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>>54607727
>104°C
What the fuck man. I thought the die shrink was supposed to reduce heat output, what gives?
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post the tek syndicate amd pic
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Jesus chris- ugh, defend this Nvidia fags!
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>>54607753
if you space the components out after the shrink, yes
I'm betting they crammed it together and it's heat saturating certain parts of the die
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>>54607209
>Tek Syndicate is an AMD shill.

>His personal rig has an 8core Intel X99
>His personal rig has a 980Ti

oh ok
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Pretty sure nvidia just blatantly lied when they said it was 2100mhz on air at 67C
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>>54607230
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>>54607775
>I'm betting they crammed it together and it's heat saturating certain parts of the die
This. Pascal GPU die size on 1080 is 314mm2. Maxwell GPU die size on 980ti is 601mm2. Also the base frequency is set to 1,607MHz which is very dangerous for a GPU that also turbos beyond this frequency.

God damn I knew pascal was gonna be a flop but not this bad. Glad I stuck with AMD since like forever. This is essentially fermi 2.0
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>>54607851
When have they not? I jumped ship after nvidia lied about the vram on the GTX 970. Fucking jews.

They didn't even use HBM. In fact they used some gay meme shit called GDDR5X which turns out is SLOWER than the ancient GDDR5 on the 980ti.
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kek, guess I'm not stepping up my TI
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>>54607812
>shill amd so you don't have to buy their shit tier stuff yourself just to keep competition around
solid plan desu
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>>54607976
I do this every day here.
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>>54605034
Still no async compute either.
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>>54608172
It has some A-sync support, but not on the level of AMD
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>>54606345
LinuxShillCucks got similar results.
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>>54605034
>advertisement in beginning of video

Do broadcasters not really how obnoxious that is?

It's actually negative advertisement.
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>>54608490
I'd rather that over DOLLAR LYNDA ROLL.COM ads
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>>54608519

ranking of advertisements (1=best):

1) No advertisement
2) Advertisement at end
3)
4)
5)
6)
7)
999999999) Advertisement RIGHT after intro

It's like a reverse surprise-party.
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Wheres that NVidia Sales rep guy?
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>>54608547
you must love LTT then
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Anandtech shows the 1080 more or less hitting its performance targets.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10326/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-preview/2
Tek Syndicate's results might be due to CPU bottlenecking-- if it's an 8 core it might be clocked pretty low.
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>>54608870
they test on an Intel board/CPU
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>>54605034
2x performance!
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>>54605034
>runs hot as piss
>loud as fuck
>mediocre for the price

TOP

FUCKING

KEK
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>>54608870
>8 core
>bottlenecking 1080 SLI
If anything is bottlenecking the system its PCIe3 and the 1080's shit memory bandwidth and cut down rops
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>>54608870
Welp so op's video can be discarded then. Can't wait to get my hands on this card
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>>54607679
what happened to 2.1GHz?
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>>54608971
It could happen. DX12 and Vulkan are seeking to remedy this, but the vast majority of existing games can't use 8 cores effectively, or see no benefit from additional cores. Meanwhile, increasing the number of cores requires that the cores be clocked slower, which can hurt game performance. For a pure gaming rig, it doesn't make sense to get an 8-core right now (although, 6 months from now, when there are more DX12/Vulkan games, it may start to make sense.)
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>>54609035
That was an overclocking demo done by nvidia. Probably with a cherry-picked chip.
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>>54609065
>Probably
You mean definitely. nVidia cherry picks everything, including their graph axes.
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>>54607679
I'm still buying it though. I've learnt to never fall for the amd waiting meme. Once the aftermarket cards hit the stores I'm buying one because I'm not poor.

>tfw nvidia does bad
>still better than AMD's offerings

Lel
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I don't trust Logan's benchmarks.
>Soma, are you serious?

Where was Fallout 4? He benched modded Skyrim, wat?
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>>54609065
Every single reviewer is getting their card upto 2.1ghz. It's a standard overclock.
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>>54608911
Not actually that loud.
Only hot when you OC it and don't tell it to ramp up the fans. It's nice to see vapor chambers in the reference design.
It's actually really good value for the price compared to getting SLI 980's or a 980ti.

It's a shame that Polaris is taking so long though.
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>>54609117
Waiting is seriously the best /g/ meme. Trying to build? Fuck that, wait for Maxwell! No wait, Pascal will blow that out of the water! But that's a baby's toy next to Decartes (or whatever the fuck Nvidia's next line is called). If you listened to conventional wisdom on /g/, you'd never build anything at all.
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>>54608870
>Anandtech shows the 1080 more or less hitting its performance targets.

Ironically, the benchmarks just prove the nvidia non-Ti card is a bad investment.

It gets crushed every generation, while the Ti still stays relevant as fuck.
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>>54609132
depends on the workload
anything beyond current gen gaming and it begins to drop the boost speeds. it's not nearly as impressive for power hungry tasks.
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>>54609132
> He thinks review samples aren't cherry-picked

>>54609138
Every time I talk myself out of a build, I save at least $1500. Waiting is by no means a bad thing.
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>>54609138
waiting is only a meme if you are doing it to save money,

That's what we call a poorcuck.

But if you're waiting for performance, then it's a good meme.
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>>54609122
He doesn't benchmark the usual big name titles because it shows things like tiny performance gains in some games like Soma
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AMd can't even beat the Titan X let alone the 1080, what are they so happy about?
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>>54609155
Waiting until it's worth upgrading is one thing, but you gotta start somewhere.
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>"980 tie"
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>>54609051
This is what i am hoping.

Isnt the whole idea behind Vulkan Mantle and DX12 is that they run better on midrange tier CPU's?

Less draw calls and such?
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Waiting for Vega is the smartest thing to do right now.
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>>54609171
but a stock Fury X is slightly faster than a stock 980ti/titanX in general at 4k

Aside from that their next big GPU is Vega with HBM2
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>>54607851
No, it gets to that temp if you run the fan at 100%

So it's cool, but probably pretty damn loud.
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I can't tell whether or not this comment is sarcastic.
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>>54609192
That's part of it. They're also trying to reduce the overhead per draw call, and especially to make it possible to issue draw calls from multiple threads simultaneously.
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>>54609183
That's how nVidia says it's pronounced. Even if it's stupid, that's what Logan/Wendell call it on video, even if they call it "tee eye" off camera.
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>>54609199
None of those cards can play 4K at payable framerates, not even SLI/CF, unless you want to play at sideshow sub 30FPS, it makes that meme resolution irrelevant.
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LOL PASCAL A COMPLETE DISASTER

IF NVIDIA HAS NOT EMBEDDED THEIR OWN CODERS TO MAKE GAMES INTENTIONALLY RUN WELL ON THEIR SYSTEMS, THEN THE CARD HAS *****************************ZERO************************* DIFFERENCE

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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>>54609251
You're not even hiding the fact that you're a Jewish male who works for Advanced Micro Devices, Incorporated.
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>tfw still want to buy the housefire card because 970
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>>54609223
They're actually not biased. The only reason people say they're AMD shills is because they benchmarked the FX-8370 after the Windows kernel got updates that made more efficient use of the 4module-8core architecture. What they found was, that with correct use of the chip, it performed much better than when it was originally released, and people thought they faked the benchmarks, when in reality, the old benchmarks were running on a bad windows scheduler.
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>>54609269
Do you even have a high end display?
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>>54609227
Should be very interesting once we get devs who know that they are doing

Quantum Break and Womb Raider seem to favor AMD cards right now, i wonder if that will change.
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>>54609262
If anyone are the Jews of GPUs, it's Nvidia not AMD.
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>>54609279
Yes I have 3 that were gifted to me, it's frustrating.
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>>54609313
Pretty sure that would be intel.

Why do they bundle intergrated GPU's with their CPU's i dont want them
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>>54609313
The only reason I'm using Nvidia right now is because of ShadowPlay, to be honest. The price of the 1080 and 1070 is maybe another reason for me to stay with them. I see no reason to switch to AMD.
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>>54609323
Just buy a Xeon family.
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>>54609138
>Descartes
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>>54609323
I'm 99% sure they do that just so computers without GPUs aren't horribly slow. Their integrated GPUs are otherwise a joke and probably don't add much cost to the processor.
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What the hell market is this card aimed at? Not good enough on its own for 4K Ultra. Somewhat overkill for 1440p Hz. Somewhat overkill for 1080p 144 Hz.

1440p/144 Hz in like the 4 games that can take advantage of it? (BF4, Overwatch, Doom... anything else?) Not to mention that 1440p is a meme stopgap resolution that very few people are going to invest in.

VR enthusiasts?
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>>54609275
>Windows kernel got updates that made more efficient use of the 4module-8core architecture.
can you tell more? i rarely update my windows.
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>>54609429
Meant to say
>Somewhat overkill for 1440p/60 Hz
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>>54609331
im going to when the 2011v3 get cheap :3
>>54609377
At least they can do basic shit but thats about it.

>>54609429
>What the hell market is this card aimed at?
Idiots who must have the latest nvidia crap
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>>54609275
They were shilling AMD far before that. It was the 3750k vs 8350 vid that really got big and caused shitstorms.

I fell for their bullshit and got a 8350 and regret it. Terrible processor for games. Only good for budget multimedia work but honestly, even youtube cucks can afford a 4790k that will beat it so what's the point.
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fucking kikes.
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>>54609326
Same here. I know a bunch of people who've also bought nvidia 960's over the slightly better amd budget 380 just because of shadowplay support and so they can record their moba gameplay without a hit.
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>>54609429
It's aimed at people who use VR. That is about the onto area this card actually is significant jump from the 980ti. Plus people with multi monitor setups. At least that's what this card is actually good at, Nvidia's marketing says it's aimed at everybody lel.
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>>54608309
Support is implemented in the driver, ie, it's software emulation.
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>>54609484
I feel you I also fell for the FX8350.
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I think it would be safe to say that for 1080p gaming a 980 Ti would suffice, but in a couple of years as games start looking better will the new "Good for 1080p" card be the 1080?
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>>54609582
A single 980ti would do me for 4K. I don't mind 30Hz desu.
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>>54609582
You mean 144 Hz? The 980 ti is already overkill for 1080p 60 Hz and the number of games with graphics decent enough to tax a 980 ti at 1080p that also scale to 144 Hz is so minute that it's not worth considering for that reason alone. Hell my 380 can do BF4 at 120-144 fps on ultra at 1080p (in multiplayer) with my 5820k pushing it.

Unless it's an FPS, most devs don't seem to give a fuck about optimizing for maximum fps on AAA games past 60-70, assuming it's not capped at 60 anyway.
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>>54609436
Before Windows 8.1, the kernel treated the bulldozer architecture as if each core was a fully featured core, when in reality, each pair of cores (module) shares an FPU. Windows was scheduling floating point operations on every core as if each core had an FPU to itself, and the floating point operations would block each other, meaning that performance was terrible in games.
Now that the kernel has a scheduler with optimizations for the architecture, it no longer schedules floating point operations on every core equally. Instead, it schedules floating point operations per module, not core, so that the floating point operations do not block each other, and performance is not lost.

This makes the CPU an effective quad core when playing most games, but that's what it's designed to do when handling floating point operations.
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>canacucks review overclock destroys two 980tis in sli

AMD on reverse engineering watch
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>>54607865
>>54607877
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg7DPighyk4

Would you buy AMD?
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so you are saying i should get a 980TI as an upgrade rather than a 1080? cant sit on this 780 for life
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>>54609757
Intel does some really fucking anti-consumer bullshit.
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>>54609638
>I don't mind 30Hz
i'll take 60+Hz 720p over 4K 30Hz for games any day
who cares if i can't make out someone's face from 2KM away? as least my eyes won't be bleeding from the judder
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>>54605034
will there be a 1080ti or something?
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>>54609932
Yes, but it will be released a few months after the next titan.
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>>54609940
>the next titan.

God I can't keep up with this shit.

I have a 280x with a 60hz 1080p monitor. What do I buy to max out my games? I play Blizzard shit and will be playing a lot of Overwatch (and maybe Doom).
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>>54606345
>>54606808
>>54607209
>>54609223
Literally every other tech site is getting similar results, even LinusShillTips, the 1080 appears to just be disappointing. I'll hold out a bit of hope as the drivers mature and everything but the idea Tek Synidcate is an AMD shill just because they're not an Nvidia shill like every other tech site is incredibly absurd
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>>54609932
Yes, it could be twice as strong as the 1080 too, the chipset used on the 1080 is almost a cut down in half version of the full Pascal chipset, which is going to be used on the 1080ti/New Titan.
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>>54610037
hardwarecanacucks and game nexus are getting different results and those two are 100% neutral.
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Nvidicucks btfo again I see kekekeke
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>>54607774

not an nvidiot, but you can pretty clearly see that the fury x had inconsistent frametime in that benchmark and was probably stuttering. which is going to be way more noticable and annoying than consistent 60 fps.
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>>54609954
>1080p
Do you think you'll go beyond 1080p? Or do you plan to downsample 4k? If so, it'll be an upgrade, if not, wait for Polaris
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>>54610061
it still seems to be getting a barely 10% gain overall in quite a few of those benches over the 980 ti, which is not near the hype it was getting a week ago
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>>54610037
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-61Zn4Sb8Q
yeah similar results, but the they're so minuscule, why are they boasting about them that much?
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>>54609532
It has pre-emption or whatever which is kinda like half assed A-sync at the hardware level
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>>54610037

it's most likely disappointing because of how bad non-intel 14/16nm processes are. both TSMC 16nm and samsung 14nm are just their 20nm processes with finfet tacked on in place of planar transistors. and we're not getting another new node for at least 4 more years.
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>>54610267
This could be the case. I wonder if within the year with AMD's Zen coming out that this will the first time an AMD cpu Nvidia gpu combo will be a legitimate thing
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If I'm only looking towards the future at DX12 performance, the gap between a 1080 and my non-X Fury isn't the huge game-changer expected, and the AotS benchmark is a rendering clusterfuck that the average player of a DX12 game - let alone the average player of an AotS match - will probably never encounter, so I'm really expecting this shit to last in the face of properly-optimized DX12 games

http://www.slashgear.com/nvidia-gtx-1080-founders-edition-review-a-new-king-17440323/

Still gotta hope DX12 goes somewhere though, Vista hate killed DX10, and Windows 10 hate is a weekly salt mine that Vista could only dream of
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I saw this coming so I got a 980ti on release... Now to get another when the prices drop not that I need it or anything.

>Gaming at 4K

Even if I was a millionaire I wouldn't bother that shit is stupidly bad right now even with the best hardware and software at high frame rates. Enjoy your input lag and motion blur FAGGOTS. 1440p at up to 144hz along with VR is the sweet spot right now for new tech that actually works.
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>>54610199

Yeah, I'd like to go 1440p 144hz or at least 1080p 144hz in the near future (next 2 or 3 months). Hadn't even considered downsampling 4k. That seems sort of pointless?
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>>54610290

it already is a thing. amd's shitty dx11 implementation cripples their gpus in low end setups.

http://www.techspot.com/review/1017-best-budget-gaming-cpu
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FYI Specs for vega 10 are as follows:

>4,000 shaders
>128 ROPs (double the furyX)
>improved caching
>full queue pre-emption on ACE's
>all front end improvements of polaris like discard accelerator and geometry engine
>new command processor design even crazier than the new polaris command processor both of which are backwards compatible with dx11 and OpenGL
>1500-ish mhz clocks with unknown overclock potential
>low end binned chip with modified HBM1 (more stable than furyX and higher clocks) will be 500-550$ on release
>Better tessellation efficiency than Maxwell

this card will fucking annihilate the gtx1080 and be cheaper to boot and supposedly the release is pushed forward to October
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How much are 980s gonna drop to retail after the 1080 release?
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>>54609669
I'm sure there was a scheduler tweak that made a difference, but I don't think your explanation sounds right. The kernel (any kernel) doesn't "schedule floating point operations," as far as I know, it just task switches processes when they block or when their timeslice is up, without regard to the instructions used by the process. I'm thinking the kernel update might have had something to do with scheduling and process migration policies.
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>>54610372

[citation needed]
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Is this the guy with the shemale?
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>>54605034
God I wish Intel would just fucking dump maybe 4-5% of a year's revenue(Equal to all of Nvidia's yearly revenue) into R&D for GPU's and come out with a monster.

Too bad for monopoly laws. They would probably be forced to sell that division by the SEC.

The 1080 is just embarrassing and the next AMD gpu will probably perform marginally better too.

I just want to be able to play 4k@60fps on high settings.
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When 1080Ti will be released? I want to change my GT240.
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>>54605034
That's some bad performance increase and Nvidia are indeed Apple tier marketers. But atleast prices will decrease, i mean 980 ti performance for the 970's price? That's nice.
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>>54610061

Gamersnexus 4k results generally has the 1080 within 20% of a 1300mhz 980ti. An overclocked 980ti (or possibly fury x) would rival a 1080 easily.

That aside it doesn't help everyone tests 4k with absurd levels of AA and wonders why performance tanks so hard.
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>>54610372

According to some dude from Sapphire Nvidia rushed their presentation (i.e held it earlier than they would have liked) due to them being scared of polaris. Another claim related to that is Nvidia got their hands on some internal AMD benchmarks which was a factor into the above point.

Still, it will be amusing to see what certain e-celebs do under the (for now, hypothetical) scenario that polaris becomes top dog.
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>>54610435
Yes, Pistol is a shemale.
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What people dont seem to understand is that, even if you want a 1080, you wont get it until sept/oct due to low production rate. By then, Vega will destroy it.

AMD WON
M
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W
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>>54610312

>1440p on 144hz with a 980 Ti

Good luck.
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>>54610550
This makes sense. From everything we heard, Nvidia were at least three to four months behind AMD on their manufacturing schedule.

AMD is probably laughing their asses off. Nvidia can keep the performance crown for single gpus. Almost nobody's going to be able to buy one in the next few months anyway. By the time the 1080 becomes widely available, Vega will be just around the corner.
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>>54610459
what is larabee?
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>>54610211
Because it is actually stronger than a GTX980Ti like the promised? the 1070 is going to be stronger too and AMD has nothing to compete yet and probably won't, the 1060 will probably have GTX970 performance at a cheap price around the $250 mark which is the price range AMD expected to compete at, Nvidia has AMD on the bag if they really wanted to.
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>>54610672
>>54609195
>>54610372
You know all the hype around the GTX 1080? You know how all that hype turned out to be a letdown? Yeah, think about that before hyping up Vega so much. Or Zen. Or Kaby Lake. Or really anything that hasn't been benchmarked yet.
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>>54610550
>>54610550

Sapphire don't even sells Nvidia cards.
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>>54610742

Your lack of reading comprehension is impressive. Saying "at up to 144hz" implies it's not constant... I do so all the time on the few games where it matters. You must be assuming all settings are at max like all of these mediocre benchmarks do. Just because your fucking car can go 150MPH doesn't mean you do it every day nor does it mean you don't get other benefits alongside that power.
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>>54610372
By the time Vega 10 is released then the 1080 Ti/GP100 will be out and it will probably end up being like the Fury X vs 980 Ti all over again.
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>>54609768
>wasting money on framerate limitations you can't achieve anyways
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>linus shittips
>just regurgitates whatever nvidia told them

>the tek
>actually tests and gets unbiased results.
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>>54610946
They got similar results on their benchmarks.
Luke just talked more on the feature set of Pascal than the performance.
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guys, where can i buy the 1080?
i can't find it on jewegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Desktop-Graphics-Cards/SubCategory/ID-48
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>>54610898
Vega will be god tier so stfu
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>>54610977
Nowhere. It's not on sale yet..
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>>54610977
1080 like the 980Ti will only be available on the Geforce website at first.
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>>54610988
This. nVidia is selling the reference 1080 as their own branded card.
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Rewind to last night in the stupid questions thread where I asked if I should buy a 1080 or 980ti on sale.
>Theres no point in buying a 900 series anymore
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>>54610988
all i see is a notify me link.
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>>54611007
So.. sign up? It's not on sale yet.
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>>54611007
Because the card isn't out yet, only reviews are out and it will only be available from Nvidia itself for a while, just wait for aftermarket coolers m8 don't get a reference unless you plan to watercool it or have a cute itx build.
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New benchmark video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZrGImpdxy0
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>>54610885
lol what is with you people always having it have to be some product identity bullshit rather than use-case scenario+price-to-performance+reality?
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>>54611032
Don't even get it for watercooling. Buy one with an aftermarket cooler and a reference board design.
"Reference 1080" == $100 more.
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>>54611045
Excuse me?
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>>54610898
AMD has said nothing and when AMD isnt hyping anything like they did with the furyX that means they have an ace up their sleeve and nvidia is shitting bricks because of it

pascal is just refreshed maxwell with higher clocks to save the shitty DX12 performance and all the underlying problems on VR with maxwell will exist on pascal in a slightly less shitty form.

pascal without the new process node would practically be a re-badge. the only reason they pulled shaders out of the CU's was to increase the space between transistors to allow higher clocks because they knew they had nothing else.

Meanwhile AMD is doing complete arch redesign from ground up and boosting IPC out the ass
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>>54611099
literally a bulldozer.
all that money that could be spent to go to mars.
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>tfw bought a 980 like 2 months ago
JUST
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>>54611099
AMD stalling.

probably going to be another Fury X fiasco.
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looks like ill be keeping my gtx 980 SLI rig until I see what the GTX1080TI has to offer.
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>>54611146
>>54611121

>team green is increasingly nervous
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>>54609183
I had to turn the video off because of this.

Just like when I have to turn off Linus techtips videos when Luke says "architexture"
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>>54611146
They already showed Polaris, P11 was eating 75W full system load and on par with a GeForce 950. P10 was on par with a 390x with a 256bit bus, and uses 110-130W.

Vega is completely unknown right now, but if it is just Polaris 10 with 4k shaders, AND it scales well, then it'll be at least on par with the 1070/1080.
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>>54611192

better because it can do more raw compute and has more bandwidth
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those game choices, what the fuck.
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>>54611192
The Polaris demo was running on medium settings, not even close to a 390X, also the full load system on AMD was at 80watts, which I call bullshit, I bet they were using an underclocked 4790K, under heavy load the 4790K uses more than 60watts alone at stock clocks, even a 4690K at stock 3.9Ghz goes above 50watts under load and if this is without using FPU.
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>>54607679
>he bought a gtx 960
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
once again its proven that anime posters are the biggest shitlords on 4chan
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>>54607812
Well even if you are an amd cuck, you wouldnt want to use inferior shitty products, now would you?
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>>54610190
Only for dx11 actually.
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>>54611192
the polaris demo was capped at 60 fps, so the wattage is misleading.
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Built haswell devils and maxwell tx for the simple reason that these are new architectures. Flagship runs 4k well on a 55 inch 22ms samsung gotta see it to believe it - barely anyone is on the 4k train anyway

>buying first generation products
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>>54605034
At least he wasn't lying on that reveal when he said it is faster than 980 ti and Titan X, even if it's faster by 10%
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>>54611287
They used the same system for the Polaris 11 and the 950 and measured total system power for both. So what does it matter if the 4690K was undervolted and underclocked?
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>>54605034
>shilling for le advertisements in the video man
Nope.
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>>54611522
Not him, but it would tend to overestimate the difference a GPU would make.
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>>54611489

The statement comes first, then the product is created and reverse engineered

User exp and business comes first, tech revolves to meet the objective

In this case it's poorly tied together so far pound for pound in some strategic move
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>>54605034
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW51q5HXX6Y
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what I don't get why everyone else praises it like second coming of jesus when they have exactly same results on all other websites?

and, I hope, people that can spend 700 on a card can count
do these tactics work on adults?
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>>54610672
Your statement makes no sense."Even if you want it, you won't get it"

BS, some will get it, late buyers will maybe have some trouble but those that are ready to buy will get it soon as it is available.

I have a 770GTX, been holding out upgrading till this gen. Not sure now if I should wait longer till ti are out. It would be easier to do if I didn't have a Vive sitting here waiting to be used. Surprisingly the 770 actually does run quite a number of the shit out and is great for vr porn and movies. But still..way below specs.
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>>54609331
>just buy this more expensive motherboard and more expensive ram so you can use a more expensive CPU without igpu

C U C K E D
U
C
K
E
D
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>>54612548
>wishful thinking

You will get it in early august if you are lucky.
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>>54612660
Sooooo...who will get it starting at the end of this month? Only family and friends? more press people? random lottery? celebrities? only the rich and powerful?bandits and thieves?

I mean, someone is gonna be getting the ones for sale. Or do you mean to say, they really wont be sold until Aug for everybody?
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>>54606345
assuming he's not a liar, they're not opinions
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ITT: Amdfags damage control while Nvidyacucks desperately defend Fermi 2.0

Takeaways:
1080 is an utter dissapointment, NVidyaCucks promised 2x performance, got a measly non-relevant upgrade, housefires insue

AMDfags still can't catch up, Raptr is still unable to match shadowplay, Tears insue
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>>54612877
>GVR unable to match shadowplay
How? GVR has the same minimum level performance hit and the same features. The ONLY thing it doesn't have is an option in OBS to encode via VCE GVR.
Also, ensue, not 'insue'.
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>>54612764
is this your first GPU launch? Nobody could get their hand on fury x, nobody could get their hands on 980 nobody could get their hands on 780
a lot of 770/970 got sold though
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>>54613144
I did. I got my Fury X on release day.
Sucks for anyone who wasn't smart enough to order promptly.
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>>54613144
770 was a rebrand and 970 was well into the 28nm lifecycle.
1070 is going to be in much shorter supply.
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>>54609275
People called them shills because they produced benchmark results that contradicted literally every other review site on the web. I compiled a list of how many benchmarks they managed to contradict a few years back:

https://rbt.asia/g/thread/S31017082#p31017537

People defended this by claiming that
1. Their Skyrim was modded and ran better on AMD CPUs because of that. No additional proof was ever given to back up that claim.
2. Core parking updates, whatever. There were a few sites that did benchmarking with the updates. They only showed a minimal difference in performance. For example, anandtech:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6985/choosing-a-gaming-cpu-at-1440p-adding-in-haswell-/7

A lot of posters on /g/ are simply intellectually dishonest. They resort to cherrypicking sources that are in line with their own opinions. 10 sources say X is better than Y in Z, and one source says that Y is better? Well I like the company behind Y, so that one source must be right. Better post it in every thread. I feel like this must be intentional because these would be some severe cases of confirmation bias otherwise, and having such confirmation bias when dealing with something as trivial as a GPU manufacturer is inane, though apparently there are people who feel that strongly about their GPU of choice, considering there are people willing to spend their time on a cantonese crafting board spouting actual lies every day.

On the other hand, there are also the people who barely understand a thing, yet still try to take part in conversations and arguments. Perhaps these people are the same as the ones above.
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>>54613326
you're a dirty dirty girl
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>>54613326
Nvidia pays big money for this guy!
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>>54609654
>tax a 980 ti at 1080p that also scale to 144 Hz is so minute

really? what fuck head games are you playing that have fps locks to 30 or 60 or whatever the fuck?

>scale to 144hz
jesus christ you are one fucking buzzword memer dumbshit

do u even play games?

fucking retard
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>>54607727
The new GTX 480!!!!

KEK
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>>54609275
>What they found was, that with correct use of the chip, it performed much better
>much better

Much better my ass. Those two hotfixes were released all the way back when we were still in windows 7, before 8 even came out, and they changed jack fucking shit. I had an fx 8120 and the performance was just as garbage as it had always been.
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>>54611099
>when AMD isnt hyping anything like they did with the furyX that means they have an ace up their sleeve and nvidia is shitting bricks because of it

Oh my god this is the biggest mental gymnastics I have ever seen, holy fucking shit.
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>2016
>Still no hardware async
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>>54610372
I want this to be true so badly
Fuck Nvidia. They haven't done anything interesting in gpu tech other than harmful proprietary shit in years
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>>54607679
>>54607727
Nvidiots are still going to buy it
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>>54610977
Buy a 980ti on eBay for $450
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>>54610190
With gimped effects of course
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>>54611122
Overclock it to 980ti speeds. Enjoy 80% of the speed of the 1080
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>>54614802
>inb4 nvidiafags say this doesnt matter
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>>54611287
The Polaris 10 hitman demo was at max settings as far as I know, which puts it in the ballpark of 390x-fury performance
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>>54610550
>Still, it will be amusing to see what certain e-celebs do under the (for now, hypothetical) scenario that polaris becomes top dog.

Very simple, they will shit on it
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>>54611122
why the fuck would you do that?

Ever since the launch of the 390X/Fury and with the Nano price cuts the GTX 980 has been fucking terrible value

It wasn't even worth it at launch because of its slim performance increase from the 780ti, and I say this as someone who owns a 980 from launch. You deserve to get burned by this
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>>54610354
Yeah, I have a 290x and I'm upgrading to a skylake i5. The performance boost from both cpu and gpu should be awesome
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>>54614824
Yeah, I'm going to buy it, since I'm sitting on a 770 and have 1440p monitor. Seems just right for my purposes.
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>>54613326
Yeah, their amd cpu benchmarks tricked me into getting one

Yeah, for most greatly multithreaded games it's perfectly fine, but it hinders gpu performance and about 50% of games alone. It's a piece of shit and I should have gotten a 3570k
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>>54614831
Yeah, good idea. People are selling them for quite cheap now
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1080 is a decent upgrade from 6 and 980, but not for 980Ti users. I can just laugh about anyone who sold their 980Ti to get a 1080. I hope to get one soon for under 350 €. 400 for Classifieds is already happening.
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>>54614779
he has a point though, every time they keep silent something is up
it can go either way in two-three weeks
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>>54613185
Same here, ordered it the moment it was available.
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>>54614872
it doesn't.
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>>54609757
I buy nothing but. In CPUs anyway.

In GPU market both AMD and nvidea are fine and make decent stuff.
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>>54613144
You see that is my point. I been through a ton of launches..since the Rendition Verite. If you are quick and got your cash, you can be one of the few that get something out of the 1st wave. The reason you couldn't find shit was you were not the 1st..you were a late arrival to the initial launch batch..so of course you will miss out. Just like anything in life..you show up late..expect to be picking through the remnants until the new batches arrive. Rinse and repeat.
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Nvidia won and AMDrone on suicide watch in every thread

lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

poolooris confirmed shit even before computex by AMD themself

top KEK

Huang based as fuck won the GPU god title and literally won the market for himself

AMD literally bankrupt before end of 2016

AMDrones pulling every straw they can

LOLL
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>>54619811
You are now aware of the fact that amd is regaining marketshare from NV from 18.8% to almost 23% and on notebooks it has now 38%. The funny thing is they havent even released any new product since the 380x yet. It will be funny when polaris is released. http://www.tweaktown.com/news/52164/amd-making-substantial-progress-against-nvidia-gpu-market-share/index.html
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980 tayy

lmao
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I'm taking a shit right now and my asshole just made cute little fart sounds :3
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>jayZtwocents makes video about 1080
>can't overclock 1080 because there isn't any overclocking benchmarks for it, no gpuboost 3

yet somehow tek syndicate can OC it? kk, nice AMD shilling faggots. And I say this as a fucking AMD shill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmsfw9GnWUY
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>>54622429
Nvidia only recently published drivers for the 10 series, maybe Jay didn't get them when he made his vid
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>>54622499
He made it literally yesterday, and uploaded it today.
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>>54609768
>780
>One of the most gimped nvidia gpus
>Still wants to give more money to the jews
Enjoy your gimping when Volta releases.
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http://subtletv.com/baabUbZ/Nvidia_GeForce_GTX_1080_Review_-_21_Games_Tested_at_1440p__4K
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Independent game benchmarks should tell you all something about the practices of Nvidia and to a lesser degree AMD. If the performances difference is negligible in independent games then we can ascertain that games are being tweaked for each GPU manufacturer and there is only one reason for that. They are being paid off to favor a particular GPU. that whole Doom OpenGL 4.3 is a mistake bullshit. The lack of Vulkan at launch which coincides with the launch of the 1080/70. Tomb Raider having shitty DX12 benchmarks too. This happens every damned fucking time and yet Nvidia fanboys accuse the red team of being butthurt, tinfoil hat neckbeards.

I think not. Nvidia are most *definitely* paying people off behind the scenes.
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How well does a 980ti compare to a 1070? The 1070 should be better due to its price range correct? It also should be on par with a 980ti which makes it a better value?
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>>54625556
you will know which site got paid the most based on the score given.
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>>54625556
But then AMD shills would get mad when told the truth about AMD being shit.
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>>54628310
Let those idiots sell their old hardware, when I get a 980Ti 300 € I'll buy it. I want a 1070 otherwise, but I'll wait until the prices drop.
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>Pascal turns out to be an exact maxwell rebrand with dieshrink

>performance doesnt even increase

>heat increases two-fold

wew lads

this might be the worst "new architecture" release ever from a video card company
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Then you wonder why they gave reviewers a free trip to some ranch. They have nothing up their sleeve pretty much a rebranded maxwell. Fucken nothing.
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>>54628930
The 1080 is a cut in half Pascal chip, not the big Pascal.
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Did everybody forget that the 980 was also not much of a jump up from the 780ti performance-wise?
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>>54613530
Bethesda's shitty gamebryo engine has fucked up physics and game speed if you go above 60 fps.
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>>54605034
cuck'd yet again
>$699 card vs $550 card
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>>54610556
are you serious?
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>>54631811
1080 will cost $499-550
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>>54632129
MSRP: 599 (launching a couple of months later), reference card: 699 (only one launching now)
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