Is this generation going to be another Athlon vs Pentium, but this time for gpus?
AMD going for efficiency/performance while Nvidia goes for high clocks like netburst back then.
Will gtx 1080s be sold in bundles with fire extinguishers?
>>54593098
I plan on upgrading from my 4th gen i5 and GTX970 to all AMD (Zen CPU and Polaris 11 GPU)
Only thing is I won't get it unless they can put the highest end Zen next to the 6th gen i7 and it has better single and multicore performance. As well as if the Polaris 11 GPU that costs about $400-$500 is better then the 980 (non ti).
All I know is I showed my wife a few articles on the upcoming 490/490x and she got honest to god moist.
So we'll be getting rid of our nvidea cards soon.
>mfw ive just ordered a 390
Oh well still a good card
Will upgrade my cpu i5 4690 just isnt cutting it >>54593146
sounds like a keeper
>>54593150
She damned well is.
>>54593146
>picturing patton oswalt in a wig
>>54593098
The GTX 1080 has a 180W TDP and will be twice as powerful as any piece of shit AMD have. Nice try, shill.
>>54593212
Stay jelly bro.
>>54593226
>"You are 5 of 2550 credits away from receiving your official Nvidia™ Claw graphic t-shirt"
>>54593226
>calling other people shills while being paid by Nvidia
Kill yourself already, faggot.
>>54593226
It also comes with free cocaine and will even suck your cock for you. Trust me, we don't have proof of it yet but surely you trust me.
>>54593226
And will cost twice as much
>>54593226
It's barely 20% faster than a 980TI. And Nvidia's TDP is never correct either.
A heavily overclocked 1080 will probably draw 250W or so.
>>54593281
>"Nvidia™ Representative"
>>54593146
>>54593226
That's correct only for stock you shill and even then I wouldn't trust that retard of a ceo.
Nvidia marketing = "it has 2x peformance with 2x memory compression and 3x memory speed + 3x compute performance."
2+2+3+3=10
"look guys, or gpu is 10x faster!! "
You'd have to be pretty autistic or John-Juan Huang himself to believe that shit
>>54593311
>2+2+3+3=10
2+2+3+3 equals 9 you fucking retard
>>54593315
Go back to school Huang. You're not ready to be a ceo
>>54593315
>10+10+11+11=1010
odd number+odd number = even number. Retard.
>>54593333
dem quads
>>54593311
That's clearly 36 times faster.
>>54593290
>250w
>single 8 pin connector
>>54593347
Who the fuck says they used a stock one? If it was air-cooled why didn't they show the pc?
Custom cooling solutions will 100% have more than single 8pin. At least the editions marketed for OC
>>54593315
wow
>>54593347
>75W PCIe slot
>150W 8 pin connector
That's 225W. If Pascal has the same power spikes as Maxwell the cards can easily draw 250W for short amounts of time.
>>54593372
>http://videocardz.com/59882/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-3dmark-overclocking-performance
>same overclock as nvidia had in their reveal
>max temp 59C, lower than even nvidias test card
>tfw AMD is probably over hyping Polaris and it will still be a significant improvement, but not enough to truly make AMD better than Nvidia and Intel
I want to root for the underdog, but it's hard to have faith for so long.
>>54593407
>hereby declares rumors as facts
Why do people like to pretend Nvidia has a bad high end? I really like AMD and prefer to get all my cards from them when I can but holy shit Nvidia has destroyed them for a while now when it comes to top tier cards. I'm just hoping Vega is at least a competitive alternative to the 1080Ti, because Fury was a mistake and stood no chance at all against the 980Ti.
>>54593436
>this damage control
>being this asshurt nvidia have won again
>"r-r-rumors"
>>54593444
>Why do people like to pretend Nvidia has a bad high end?
Nobody's doing that though. If you looked at GPU threads in the last six months or so, people always recommended to go with the 980TI. At every other price point AMD cards at least competitive, if not superior. The high end is the only segment where Nvidia have a clear lead.
>>54593290
AMD fans sure suck at math.
>>54593456
>1080 is overhyped shit
>I bet Nvidia is lying about specs
>gonna be a housefire
It's pathetic desu.
They'll both be shit like usual.
Polaris and Zen will be just more over hyped, under whelming shit like it always is.
And Nvidia will do pic related like they always do.
puhlease.
nvidia has never had any verified issues with cooling or thermal efficiency, just stupid internet memes. On the other hand AMD has had numerous documented instances where AMD cards have caused fires, hell i know from experience my brother had a HD4870 and that thing burst into flames one day.
So, no, fuck you, if anything poolaris should have fire extinguishers bundled.
>>54593315
that's exactly how math works for Huang, you pass CEO test
>>54593532
Asynchronous compute only offers a considerable boost if the shaders of a card aren't already being utilised.
The only reason it offers such performance increases for AMD is because their drivers are so shit that 20% of their gazillion shaders end up spinning idle.
Nvidia have the best drivers in the world. Their shaders are always at least 99% utilised.
Mantle, Vulkan and all those other low level APIs are just AMD's desperate attempt to get out of having to write working drivers and pass on their responsibility.
>AMD letting nvidia beat them to the punch yet again
Why is this company so bad? When will they finally go bankrupt?
>>54593574
>nvidia has never had any verified issues with cooling or thermal efficiency
Are you a gold fish?
>Is this generation going to be another Athlon vs Pentium, but this time for gpus?
Maybe in AMDrones wet dream.
Past 5 years AMD has put out nothing but shit out and broken promises.
>Will gtx 1080s be sold in bundles with fire extinguishers?
No, however they will sell a lot more then what is equivalent gpu from AMD.
>>54593591
Based tripfag and anime poster
>>54593574
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRo-1VFMcbc
4xx series were literal housefires
>>54593584
Ati were actually good before amd bought them up and ruined them. I wish nvidia would stop holding back and just bankrupt them already so they'll be forced to sell ati samsung. We'll finally get some good competition within the market if it comes to that.
>>54593591
>Tripfag
>weeb
>Can't use then and than correctly
>Nvidicuck
Figures.
>>54593605
I'm sure a lot of computers would have problems like that if their cooling was obviously tampered with like that.
>>54593613
I have a terrible feeling if Samsung bought AMD/ATI that they'd just be building mobile chipsets for samsung tablets/phones/TVs
>>54593574
Wow someone missed fermi
>>54593444
Apparently Fury was better at ultra-high resolutions, but that's pretty fucking pointless anyway
>>54593632
Why not both? They'd obviously use ATI/AMD's knowledge and patents to improve their mobile GPUs, but as long as desktop GPUs are profitable I don't see why they'd give up on that market.
>>54593580
>nvidia
>good drivers
it's not 2006 anymore lad, saying that 6600 GT was a fucking beast
>>54593632
>>54593662
>Samsung jews Sony, MS and Nintendo out of their GPU chipsets
>this kills the console
I can't think of a better outcome
>>54593574
using HD4850 to this day, never had a problem
>>54593632
The gpu business would be too profitable to just ditch like that. I'd trust samsung to do the right thing anyway. If there's one company that I fully trust it'd be samsung. I was gifted a samsung galaxy s4 a few years back and it's still going strong today, I'm writing this post on it. I've also bought a cheap samsung tv and monitor and they've been my 2 best tv/monitor purchases I've made. Samsung make some top top quality products at very competitive pricing so I honestly believe they'd be able to topple nvidia off the top of the market and I'm an nvidia fan as well. Currently rocking a 980.
>>54593685
Samsung will probably make their own vulkan/android based console. It'd probably rip these current consoles to shreds whilst being cheaper or around the same price just like samsung are doing with their Android phones vs apple and their tv's vs LG and sony.
>>54593724
>their own
nah they'll just port android to their new console and start selling android games for TVs
>>54593605
I could Heat my Living Room when my 480 was being pushed
>>54593226
>1080 has a 180W TDP
And my ass is black
Bullshit ill believe it when i see it
>>54593141
Polaris 11 is the cheaper and smaller chip.
>>54593746
290X would've been as good as, if not better, for that job.
I don't mind having 5fps less thatn the direct competitor of the GPU I'm going to buy from AMD if it means not supporting nvidias shady business model.
I'm not autistic enough to care about 5fps, but I have too big of a conscience to give my money to companies that behave like dicks.
If nvidia makes the better GPU, good for them, just means that it strives the GPU market since AMD will try to catch up or even make better.
But where my money is going is very set.
>here comes the food analogy
I live in Switzerland and I much rather buy our more expensive local meat where I know the animals are actually treated with good care and killed with almost no pain, than buying some shady imported meat from Edeka, Real Kauf or Aldi from Bulgaria or Turkey.
https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/party?iso=20160517T09&p0=1178&msg=nVidia+sued+for+monopoly&font=hand
>>54593615
I did type fast on my phone thus there is always room for auto correction to pick a wrong word to replace mistyped word with.
meanwhile in AMD
Wait for Phenom, wait for Bulldozer, wait for Fusion, wait for bulldozer core, wait for zambezi, wait for vishera, wait for ontario, wait for zacate, wait for jaguar core, wait for 300 series,wait for fury (x), wait for radeon pro duo, wait for zen (+), wait for Vega, wait for Polaris
"Are you ready for 8 cores ?"
"We got it right this time please just wait"
paper only release aftermath;
"Just a little longer please wait"
wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait
"WE GOT IT RIGHT THIS TIME!!! " please just wait.
Sucks to be a underdog and Nvidia has had some trouble in past but so far only *cucks* and more of joke than AMD as company currently are the AMDrones themselves.
>>54593881
This. I'm feeling the same way in Austria
>>54593881
Well said.
>>54593904
a fucking leaf
>>54593904
Is something actually happening in 3 hours?
Is AMD going to anounce something or is an EXPO going on?
If the second option applies, are there livestreams about it?
>>54593881
Nice
>>54593904
>>54594009
1080 review NDA lifts?
>>54594009
GTX 1080 reviews being released I think. That's when the NDA drops supposedly
>>54593584
why do you want less competition in the market?
>bricks cards with newest drivers
>best drivers in the world
okay
>>54594058
That's exactly what I want.
Also,
>implying there's been any competition since 5000 series
>>54594031
First review is up.
look at the comment http://videocardz.com/59999/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-full-presentation
>>54594058
>Implying that in any way that AMD is relevant competition
The last time AMD had an uptick in GPU sales was when the scam coins hype was all over the place. Literally nobody buys them for gaming.
>>54594093
>benchmarks
>not a review
okay, this is a first for me
>>54594093
83 under load is perfectly acceptable, if you have problems with it perhaps it's more the chassis airflow or lack of water cooling thats the issue. A typical AMD card regularly hits 90 degrees with water cooling. Now that is unacceptable.
>>54594123
i am comparing with the gtx1080 2.1ghz that nvidia shown
>>54594123
my 390 doesn't hit 70C under load on air in shitty case
>>54594111
owh yeah, its overview.
>>54594143
I remember how they advertise 980ti being very cool card it goes into 80C territory on air all the time without OC
>>54594093
>Claims 60°C when heavily OC'd
>Actually 83°C at stock clocks
Nvidia lies again?
>>54594123
My 980 doesn't go above 72C when clocked to 1418 mhz and I don't even use a custom fan profile. Everything is normal.
>>54594156
are you looking for essay on how great cards slides in the motherboard? what else is there to a review except numbers?
>>54594163
Just because idiots who blew all their money on the GPU and ignored delivering on a sufficient cooling solution are feeling a little toasty is no fault of Nvidia. The blame lies entirely on them.
>>54594167
its not the last
>>54594147
>What is a reference cooler
Either way its a housefire
>>54594219
they got different idle temperature
>>54594074
> I want monopoly dick up my ass
no one benefits from this except nVidia not even your dumb stretched ass
>>54594106
> relevant competition
enough to price the 1070 at $375 apparently
>>54594239
hell if i know what is reference cooler i've never seen one
>>54593904
http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/40398-nvidia-wants-qualcomm-to-pay-for-monopoly-play
In reality, nVidia is clearly the victim of monopoly here.
>>54593613
>nvidia marketing vs samsung marketing
Pretty sure the extreme levels of samsung jewery will destroy nvidia in as little as 5-7 years.
>>54594093
Since when are marketing slides considering a review you fucking retard?
>>54593347
>not buying an aftermarket 8+6 or 8+8 pin 1080 for maximum overclocking.
>>54593700
Man, this just felt like sheer paid shilling. Fucking Samsung getting their tendrils in everywhere.
I'll go nvidia cause I like the edgy new reference design :3
I don' know why people are that into upgrading.
I had a HD7950, then sold it for a hundred bucks and bought a used 290 for 200.
Now I can play every game I ever tried to play on high/maximum settings at 1080p with >60fps.
I'll upgrade as soon as I have to turn down a game to medium-low to get >60fps.
Until then, upgrading won't make sense.
Why would you need 2 980Ti s?
>>54594784
Battlestation Threads.
Speccy Threads.
Guts Threads.
>>54593311
>John Juan-Huang
Kek
>>54594823
I guess I am that way because I was raised in a rich household.
I was told to only buy things you need, the most sensible thing.
I have more money than most americans probably ever will earn, yet I probably live cheaper than them.
I work 60% and can more than cover my living expenses.
>>54594784
i usually dont have money to piss away on upgrades so when i get some breathing room i do it
picked up a new 390 for $480 shipped which is cheap here in aus
>>54593311
"10x faster" is actually true*
*for mixed precision scientific calculations on 8 GPU servers, if you compare it to 4 GPU Maxwell servers which had no double precision performance at all and do FP16 at 1:1 FP32 instead of Pascal's 2:1 ratio.
>>54594898
Dude. Stop just using $ when you're talking about AUD.
$ - on an american site, are US DOLLARS.
And 480 AUD are 351USD.
Stop making it seem like everything's expensive in Shitstralia when it's not.
>>54593444
>Fury was a mistake and stood no chance at all against the 980Ti.
Fury is a shitload better than 980, and Fury X is within few percent of 980ti in the vast majority of benchmarks.
>>54594784
because their pcs are the only thing they have that others *might* envy, so they have to make it the best
they have nothing else
>>54594945
thats including tax as well and postage wasnt cheap like $30 because i live in bumfuck nowhere
Really not that bad
>>54594971
I remember once, when I went to a local hardware retailer.
A guy that looked like a poor fuck, wearing construction worker clothes rolled out about 3500USD worth of computer parts, including 2 titan x's , and hunked them into his old shitbox car.
I guess you're right.
>>54593584
>yet again
GCN was out before Kepler and Vega will be out before 1080ti.
>>54593098
Maybe. We just to wait. Fuck, you guys just need to wait for benchmarks. Pascal soon, Polaris any minute now, fuck.
>tfw earning way too much money latelly
>have no tertiary expenses like smoking, drinking or clubbing
>don't know what to do with it since I already bought a car recently
Welp, I guess I'll upgrade from my Fury X to AMDs next gen cards.
1st world problems...
>>54594212
>Nvidia lying is the consumers fault
Yeah, sure. That's what they deserve for supporting such a shitty company.
>>54593649
Both Fury cards were plagued by bad drivers for a couple months, then the regular Fury started to beat the 980, and the performance gap between a Fury X and a 980ti was a lot shorter, although because it's AMD, anything remotely-resembling an initial driver fuck-up means they'll automatically lose in the public eye
>>54595019
>double fuck
>>54595149
Buy a house. Or at least put money away so you can buy a house later on.
>>54595249
>>54595149
I don't know, maybe SAVE some money, as every self-respecting man should do?
Money's not going to disappear at the end of the month.
