Everything you can't afford is a meme edition
>Buyer's template for the unenlightened:
http://pastebin.com/33S1gVkG
Where to Buy:
>http://pastebin.com/8Yku80VL
FAQs:
>http://pastebin.com/M5w7QtKp
buyers template
>http://pastebin.com/33S1gVkG
old thread >>54547386
>>54584365
if you have miami keycaps you're a huge meme cuck
ANIME and MEMEchnical KEYBOARDS #General
>>54584436
>>54584514
MEMELIFE
>>54584620
#cancer
>>54584436
>>54584514
>>54584620
>>54584713
degenerates
>>54584753
And there's nothing you can do to stop me
Where to buy keycaps in EU ?
>>54584713
>>54584765
>trying to act cool
>doesn't even have miami keycaps
fuck off loser
>>54584803
There's this shop here
http://www.ukkeycaps.co.uk/
Other than that, chinese sites with free chink shipping. The EU is not the place to be looking for keycaps of any particular sort. You can consider yourself lucky if a given keycap set even has an ISO add-on.
>>54584814
>miami keycaps
Sorry, I don't have shit taste.
>>54584874
>don't have shit taste
>has garbage tier anime plastered everywhere
wew lad
>>54584959
I'm glad to see that you acknowledge the direct relation between not having shit taste and having anime plastered all over the place.
You can move on now.
can I be a meme too?
>>54584874
But buying shit from china takes so long to arrive and group buys takes even longer life is suffering.
>>54585013
>life is suffering
This is correct.
>>54585000
That looks atrocious
>>54584993
>being this much of a faggot
>>54585198
Being original is hard, isn't it?
Thoughts on the Ducky YOTG keyboard?
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/ve-a?mode=guest_open
Not sure if this is worth the price, but damn if the layout doesn't have me intrigued. Not to mention the fact that it splits down the middle.
>>54584365
>>54584436
>>54584514
can i of meme
>>54585227
You tell me :^)
>>54585302
I'd get one if I had the funds.
And weren't already planning on making a really similar keyboard sometime in the foreseeable future.
this was totally worth $300
>>54585356
you can of kill yourself
>>54586199
gateron tactile clears
just like zealios
>>54586199
Are you getting one of these? >>54585302
I want to see one of them in action, but I don't want to get one myself for aforementioned (>>54585555) reasons.
>>54586260
>$399
>Aug 8 ETA
lol no
>>54586199
> he bought a 300 dollar desoldering gun
Do you own a repair shop keke?
>>54586414
nope
i just really hate using a pump
Well lads, I fell for a meme. And I don't mean "I bought a mechanical keyboard because I thought I would like it", I mean "I bought a mechanical keyboard because other people like it." I picked up a Model F off eBay and I'm not particularly impressed. Maybe I just need time for it to grow on me.
>>54586618
you just fell for the ibm meme
does it ping horribly?
>>54586653
The springs vibrate like nobody's business.
V60 with top and bottom row lazer etched ALPS from a FK-2001. I need a new spacebar, flimsy as shit.
Goldtouch mx brown keypad. NUM 1 and 4 aren't working right, I think something is wrong with the controller, being replaced with cheap wireless keypad for the time being.
>>54584803
>>54584874
thats where i got mine
>>54586618
Only buy buckling spring if you really love it or have nostalgia. They're quite shit to use tbhfam.
>>54586718
How do you live with yourself knowing that your keyboard looks like it does
>>54586779
Also I'm from Canada, so I have to legally register this as a weapon due to its weight.
>>54586836
Obsessing over keyboard aesthetics is pretty haram, fuckboi, i just wanna be able to see my number row and arrow cluster Fn keys in the dark.
>>54586718
>glorious pc gaming race
>>54586897
>Obsessing over keyboard aesthetics is pretty haram
You're the one sporting a keyboard with two different keycap sets that has the FN arrows highlighted.
>>54586919
it hurts, i know. it will wear off soon though
>>54586897
why did you even get blanks then?
>>54586924
cobbled together, as god intended. Enjoy mortgaging your house to buy some PBT jellie skull caps or whatever the fuck.
>>54586935
they're front printed, matias quiet click
>>54586959
If you don't care about keyboard aesthetics, you should just get some keycaps from an old apple keyboard. Sure, your bottom row would look different, but at least you'd have decent PBT caps.
>>54587009
Did apple make an ALPS? Is the old apple classic keyboard ALPS? I thought it was buckling spring.
V60 spacebar uses costars and a single switch, but every ALPS PBT I come across uses some other stabilizer scheme. I haven't looked yet to see what my options are but that's the only key I don't like the feel of.
>>54587044
>Did apple make an ALPS?
They certainly did.
It also uses costar-style wire stabilizers, though I don't know how similar to these are to the stabilizers on your v60, though I'm guessing it shouldn't be a problem since it just clips onto the wire anyway, regardless of location.
Not that it'd fit your bottom row.
>>54587105
looks like it's .25 too long
>>54586427
loving this. is it 1 keycap set or multiple?
>>54587167
gmk dolch
the red keys are from elite keyboards
>>54584436
>>54584620
Losers
>>54585302
Tempted with this. Shame it isn't wireless.
>>54584379
Don't mix us trackball users up with those topre weirdos.
We at least have some sense.
>>54585302
Ridiculous pricing, and it isn't even ortholinear.
Not worth it, I think.
>>54587624
>trackball
Speaking of trackball, do you have any recommendations?
Is thumb or whole hand better?
>>54587689
Most seem to recommend fingertip. It seems the better designed hardware is all fingertip too.
I like thumb, but the only real option for thumb is the M570. Everything else (like the elecoms) is trash.
>>54587215
What wireless board has been the best? Been thinking of getting one eventually.
Should I do it brehs?
http://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00193584.html
>>54587766
The Keyboard is good, but you should get something than browns.
Also, fuck your language.
>>54587815
It's the only site I can find selling this keyboard. All the North American sites I found aren't carrying anymore.
>>54587839
>It's the only site I can find selling this keyboard
Let the site owners know that their language sucks on checkout.
Just don't get it with browns and you'll be good.
>>54587868
How about blacks? I've used red before and didn't like them much.
>>54587904
Blacks are fine with me. If you didn't like the lack of tactility, then you won't like blacks either. If it was just the switch being too light, then you'll probably like blacks.
Though you should chose switches by your personal preference, just don't chose browns.
>>54587756
Of the two I'd say the Filco :)
If you want to cut down on clutter as much as you can then the Royal Kludge though.
>>54587940
I just felt like there were a lot of typos when I was using red switches. I currenty have blue switches on my keyboard and like them a lot. I wouldn't mind trying blacks out though.
>>54588180
If you didn't mind the lack of tactility, blacks could be a good change.
pre-pbt spacebar.
>>54584365
>tfw u r the reason qb bought a hhkb
Hi from arg
normally i wouldnt buy razer but my friend offered this to me for 20 dollars, of which 19 dollars went into shipping. only thing is the spacebar doesnt have a stabilizer, so i ordered one.
>>54586241
Are they any different from zealios? I was thinking of picking some up since they're cheap.
>>54588626
not that i can tell
zealios come in different spring weights but that's it
What color keycaps do I get?
>>54587215
what's that Logitech square?
>>54588249
Alright thanks for the advice m8
>>54588915
Logitech T650 Wireless Rechargeable Touchpad
>>54586779
I don't agree with that at all. I think they're preferable to Cherry MX switches. They're certainly not for everyone though.
>>54585188
What switches are those?
what's the absolute most expensive mechanical keyboard out there
>>54590129
Available as new stock?
>>54590281
yes, no old shit
>>54590452
No customs/limited-runs?
>>54590490
Maybe the silenced HHKB or Realfoce? Or the hipro Realforce?
>>54590490
Not him, but the most expensive non-custom board is probably the Topre Hi-Pro.
>>54584436
>>54584514
>>54584620
>>54584713
>>54584765
>>54584874
>>54584993
hello retards this is a keyboard thread. please kys.
>>54584436
>>54584620
I didn't think these threads could get worse than the HHKB spamming.
>>54591323
>>54591330
>>54591343
Can't beat that classic look. Just wish they made some with alps mounts.
imo, backslash should also be the same style as the mods on a 60%.
what should my next meme be?
>>54584436
man why are you still posting my memes here
i already told you
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1473PXrMWmD
>>54584620
nice meme
>>54591323
>>54591330
>>54591343
that's fucking pretty.
>>54584365
Why are you guys so jew that you can't afford a Control key? I just cannot comprehend this.
Newfag to mech keyboards. Are chink keyboards worth it? I live in SEA and there are plenty of 'em here for cheap, as compared to the expensive imported ones.
Pic related
>>54592086
maybe if you could read, you could find it.
>>54592195
Only chinkboards that are /mkg/ approved are magicforce 68 and zhuque/team wolf ciy
![AF3673542E73442781AE7D668CC3F138[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/A7cl4Ug.png "AF3673542E73442781AE7D668CC3F138[1].png")
Corsair has K70 RBG with browns for $111 after tax.
This would be my first mech keyboard, coming from an old saitek eclipse 1 rubberdome.
Is the k70 worth it? Are there better alternatives with backlighting and media keys?
gonna buy first one soon/end of month
looking at filco majestouch 2 blue
price isn't an issue, don't do heavy typing, mostly use computer for being a weeb and games so blue seems best bet, also dont need a gorillian buttons for macros either
any issues or should i just pull the trigger?
>>54587689
Budget?
>>54592664
yeah filco is great
>>54592763
your pic was the reason i was even looking at it lol, saw ncix was having a sale on corsair stuff but came here and read the pastebin shit and as fun as LEDs would be, the filco lends itself to the aesthetic of my new PC
thanks man
>>54592804
but uh, my caps are aftermarket
just so you know
>>54590091
Topre
>>54592804
Don't buy a keyboard with LEDs, people will laugh at you for being a typical razer kiddy gamer.
I love my Choc Mini, I wasn't expecting to use the extra media functions or anything, but I've grown really attached to it.
After a few years though some of my switches have started to chatter. I've tried a few things to get them back into more reliable order, but I'm thinking it's time to purchase a new keyboard.
Should I get another choc mini? What other options should I look at if I want a 10keyless with black switches?
Is putting shoes next to your keyboard some dumb reddit thing?
>>54592988
those shoes are gay af nigga
>>54592988
>that mouse
God that's retarded
>>54587105
Those arrow keys... just no.
why won't manufactures make a 68 keyboard with this layout smfh
>>54593027
pretty non standard as fuck
>>54593027
Hey fuck you faggot, pick a different name.
>>54593086
fuckin dickhead its my name you twat
>>54593086
That's a disgusting picture in more ways than one.
>>54593086
>not even a type s
why even post
:^
>>54593095
Nah, it's mine. Change your name, you namefag scum.
>>54593099
The only thing disgusting about that photo id the deck, and that's because it hasn't been power washed in God knows how long.
>>54593100
>Paying $300 for literal rubber domes
Why don't you like, fuck off with all that extra money you have :^
>>54592664
Filcos are great.
Also take a look at the Majestouch Convertible 2. It is the same thing but also has bluetooth support.
Oh, and Filco also makes doubleshot HiPro caps. Might wanna pick those up with it too.
am i ironic yet?
>>54593122
no the shoe has to be on your head newfag
>>54593122
is this a reddit meme?
>>54593172
>being new
fuck back to /arg/ faggot
>>54593222
nah, it's pretty lame over there right now
they're actually talking about ARs and not gay shit or fucking each other
>>54593172
No, remember that Dan did the same thing? I think it's a meme for people who think they get 4Chan but in reality act like they belong on Reddit.
Friendly reminder that rubber domes != membrane sheets
and friendly reminder that there is no point in spending hundreds of dollars on a keyboard if you are gonna use a mouse like every other pleb.
>>54593359
Membrane sheets and rubber domes are the same fucking thing. Your shit HHKB didn't invent anything
Cherry>Topre
>>54593385
stay mad poorboi
>>54593418
>poor
The word you probably don't know how to use yet is ``frugal''.
Hope that helps.
>>54593418
speaking of overpriced crap brands, a wild macfag appears
One does not simply run from the hhkb meme
>>54593424
Mechanical keyboards are far from a frugal purchase
>>54593418
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>54588802
Green and whiyte looks good
Anyone had experience with ducky one? Im interested on trying mechanical keyboard, and it's the cheapest I've found around here, about $75
https://www.mechanicalkeyboards.co.id/product/detail/ducky-one-non-backlit-orange-legends-cherry-mx-red
for 55$ how is the nflictor ck104?
/csg/ is talking me into it.
>>54595487
Shoulda bought a lolita for that price. Or probably that magicforce or whatever is getting pushed around lately.
>Budget
Up to 200 shekels, preferably less
>Location (continent at least)
Netherlands
>Preferred switch type
Greens or Clears/Grays, has to be rather stiff and tactile and preferably clicky
>Layout
100%
>Form factor
ANSI
>Backlight
Don't care
>Previous/current keyboards
Currently using a Ducky Zero with >browns, they're way to light for me and of course the lack of tactility
pic related
pls help /g/-kun, full size boards with Greens are really fucking rare over here
>>54596641
Cooler Master, WASD.
Any label-less keyboards besides the Daskeyboard with the glossy black meme?
>>54592355
LOL WHY IS IT WHERE THE CAPSLOCK SHOULD BE
>>54598783
You cannot fathom even a single reason as to why someone would replace such useless functionality taking up valuable space at the edge of the home row? I pity you.
>>54598881
It's not useless functionality. I wouldn't have been able to type that post without it. Unless I just held shift, which is gay as fuck.
>>54598881
>>54599100
Your post was completely useless, you're proving his point
>>54599146
No it wasn't.
I flipped my keyboard back to normal as I was sick of it looking so dumb. But I have had to flip it back as it so dam comfy. Why isn't this standard?
>>54599247
>keyboard
spacebar
>>54598783
like i said
maybe if you could read you could find it
>>54599247
Because it looks retarded. What we really need is a spacebar with a more rounded front edge. Now that's a great idea for emptying the mech community's wallets.
>>54599789
But it feels so right. I don't think a rounded spacebar would be as comfy.
>>54599788
>>54599788
Can you please tell me what the point is of moving the keys around like that.
>>54599873
You know there is more than one keyboard layout right?
>>54599926
There are other keyboards with that layout?
>>54599873
control is faster and easier there
never use caps lock anyway
>>54599939
Ummm who knows, but you could probably program one to have it.
Is not having function keys and arrow keys a pain?
>>54600058
I don't miss them at all. However, most of the programs I use support vim like direction so this makes life much easier.
>>54600058
on the pok3r it is
but on the hhkb, the FN layer placement is actually pretty easy
i could program my poker to work the same, but it would take a while
Long story short:
>about to buy my first mechanical keyboard
>not sure if I'm falling for the meme or not
>I've been using a kb with scissor switches for like 5 years now (notebook)
Should I?
>>54600141
Wha? The pok3r also has it's function keys on the number row...
Is the Logitech G710 with blue keys worth it for about 30€?
>>54600175
i was more talking about the arrow keys
>>54600214
Fair enough, yer the hhkb's arrow placement does look more comfy. In fact this whole line of conversation has convinced me to reprogram my pok3r's arrows.
>>54586919
What I don't understand is why "pc gaming race"
What happened to master?
too long?
Master race already copyrighted?
>>54584365
People who hate the Caps Lock key are not nice people.
So uhh, you press to access the fn key to access the functions buttons, makes sense. What do you press to access the arrow keys in this layout?
Why is there no cntl button...?
>>54600349
this comment made me realize where the control key is.>>54600351
Ya I can live without caps locks.
>>54600272
oh right, i forgot you can't rebind /
that isn't going to work
>>54600401
I have a feeling I read something about a guy who does somehow get his pok3r to have keybinds similar to the hhkb, let me have a look.
I see that you are talking about the HHKB.
Here's a picture of a HHKB.
Guys, why do some mechanical keyboards cost more than others. Not baiting, just confused.
Aren't all cherry switches equal?
>>54600621
Supply and demand.
>>54592954
im using a lolita from noppoo atm as my first mech, if you don't want to spend a lot of money i'd recommend it
'very good' condition
clearly meaning *most* of the keys work
>>54600845
how do you model m users deal without super key?
>>54600869
well my other model has 122 possible places for a super key :^
i can't really use the SSK yet because it's a bit fucked isn't it
>>54600869
ctrl + esc
>>54600621
Build quality, number and type of switches, stock keycap quality and features such as backlighting or programmability are factors which affect the price of a keyboard. Also, brand names.
You can get a magicforce 68 for 50 bucks, or you can get a korean custom for 500. They'll both input shit to your computer, but they're still vastly different from one another.
>>54599811
We just need the slope to remain the same as flipped but the sides to be the original angle.
>>54599939
Lots of older keyboards have control where caps lock is now commonly placed.
>>54600342
Master race too master racist.
this is actually really comfy to type on
>>54601460
It looks disgusting though.
>>54601460
>wrist rest attached to the keyboard
>>54601502
yeah but not really though
that thing you posted however,
that's absolutely digusting
>>54601460
How's the case feel? I know it's some chink shit, so I don't expect it to feel too good.
>>54601544
holy shite i love that thing
body/keycaps?
>>54601544
>but not really though
No seriously.
The case is nice, but the part where it just extends unnecessarily to form that huge overflow that is supposed to be a wrist rest just looks atrocious. It makes the whole keyboard look clunkier and bigger than it actually is, detracting massively from the aesthetic of a small, compact keyboard.
Hence the comparison with the corsair keyboard. Take a look at pic related. It looks atrocious, but it already looks a whole lot better than the thing I posted previously.
>>54584436
>>54584620
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>>54584993
>>54584365
>>54584436
>>54584514
>>54584620
>>54584713
>>54585000
>>54586260
>>54586427
>>54587215
>>54588535
>>54588802
>>54591839
>>54593027
>>54593100
>>54593108
>>54593274
>>54600551
>special snowflake colored key caps
>braided cords
>LEDs
>>54601671
dumb frogposter
>>54601671
Didn't include me. I am happy you approve.
>>54601671
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>54601671
I really want to see your keyabord
>>54601566
rough and badly finished
you can look at the massdrop discussion for all of the complaints
i'll sand it and make it nice enough
>>54601590
this case
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/royal-glam-60-wood-keyboard-case
pok3r with gateron tactile clear switches and GMK dolch keycaps
>>54601624
ok
>>54602005
it probably looks like this>>54601624
>>54601460
i think that's actually really nice looking
was it a pok3r originally?
>>54602185
yeah
from WASD, which they call it a VP3, but it's just a rebranded pok3r
but i might put the infinity board into it, whenever massdrop ships that, anyway
>>54602005
>>54602005
>I really want to see your keyabord
>>54602309
Woah, do you have a studio? That's a very clean photograph.
>>54601671
>braided
Do you mean coiled??
I am thinking about trying to stain some white key caps with tea? Fair trade of course. Wadya think?
>>54601634
Aw come on, that hhkb is very nice. I am not a fan of miami keycaps but they seem to be the 'in' thing so let the kids have their fun.
>>54584436
What if I live in South Florida, am I allowed to without being a memer?
PSA: if you purchased a $50+ keyboard and don't actually work with it you're a memer. I don't produce a substantial amount of work so I bought a five dollar Acer keyboard from a thrift store. Feeling good while shit posting over on /v/ is not a valid reason pajeet.
Come on dood, you don't really want to blindly follow the miami crowd.
>>54602619
Does this thing look like it was made for work?
>>54602619
>everything you buy should be about work
>leisure doesn't exist, only work
>work work work
fucking protestants man
>>54602619
does it upset you that i'm $2k into this autistic hobby and the most work with keyboards i do is autocad shortcuts?
feels good
>>54602619
>Feeling good while shitposting is not a valid reason
Mmmm, yes it is. You're an idiot.
>>54602703
>protestants
Heh. I enjoyed this enough to exhale from my mouth and smirk.
>>54602619
This was $10 from my university's surplus store, and it is the best keyboard I have ever used. It is better than my board with browns I got for $100. You don't have to spend a lot to get a nice keyboard.
How do you expect your keyboard to write if it never learned to read?
#keyboardilliteracy
>>54603001
autism
>>54602888
Anything is better than browns.
>>54603001
COMFY!
>>54591343
Where to get?
>>54592883
>trying this hard
Take this faggot back, please. We don't want him.
>>>/a/141655761
>>>/a/141654967
>>>/a/141654529
>>54603438
Oh cool, I have an entourage of crossboarders now.
>>54601544
>little ass keyboard
>wristrest attached to it
Glorious
>>54600342
Brand too pushy to deal with the Hitlerian connotations.
>>54584365
>Budget
< $100
>Location (continent at least)
USA
>Preferred switch type
MX Browns
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
Tenkeyless
>Backlight
No
What do I get?
>>54603438
All hhkb owners are shitposters lmao
>>54604055
filco
>>54604532
thanks senpai
My 21st birthday was today. And frankly it was shit.
So, I'm in the mood to buy myself a meme device.
>~200 I guess, I can't really justify 300...
>Canada
>Red... I guess.
>ANSI
>60 because max memes?
>Backlight no
>Current $10 rubber. Previous blue switches razor I bought as a little kid.
>>54601671
I >>54588535 had none of those. gg
>>54605045
Sorry to hear about your birthday
http://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Keycaps-Cherry-Mx-Red/dp/B00OFM67XS
Not sure why you would need to spend so much on a 60% anyway.
>>54605158
I guess I've been looking at Canadian amazon which isn't the amazing thing you guys get in the USA.
Let me look at the faq where to buy again.
>>54605217
there's also here, but people have mixed experiences on ordering from them. I ordered a Pok3r from them and it was fine.
https://corus-kb.com/en/pok3r/19-vortex-pok3r-poker-3-pbt-black-version-alu-casing-ansi-us-international.html#/39-switches_type-cherry_mx_red
Does anyone here build keyboards for a living?
>>54605240
The price makes sense for the conversion. But they don't even mention shipping to Canada even though it's a currency option. Suuuper weird.
Bolts are ordered
maybe i'll make this piece of garbage half way decent
>>54605390
>Where do you ship? We do ship worldwide.
https://corus-kb.com/en/content/1-delivery
>>54605399
oh, the f4 key was stuck
now all the alphanumeric keys work right
oddly its the only key with a 2 piece cap
>>54605377
I wish.
Unless you have a whole business revolving around overpriced memeboards like gons does, you're going to have a hard time making any significant amount of money.
Currently looking for a filco keyboard on amazon and for some reason the Majestouch 2 with red switches is $200 (unless I'm an idiot) and the black switches are $150. I've only used blue switches and was planning on getting reds but not for that price. Is the difference between the reds and blacks that noticeable?
>>54606010
Blacks are heavy and reds are light. It's quite damn noticeable, as is tge difference between any other two different switches.
>>54606010
blacks are heavier linear switches
heavier than blues
>>54606036
>>54606042
goddamnit im not really willing to pay that much more for red switches. is there another keyboard in price range $120-170 with reds i could get?
http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=70719
is this a reliable website?
>>54605399
>>54605522
That thing is beat to hell. Not much you can do about that case sadly.
At least most of the caps look like they're in good shape. Bolt-modded will still get you a pretty penny for it.
How much did you pay for it?
>>54606172
Take a look at ducky's lineup.
>>54586241
>>54588648
Gib info pls. Are the stems in the Tactile Clears as smooth as Zealios? Did you ever take one apart?
>>54592848
which keycaps are they btw
>>54606262
well, less than $200 at least
My pc actually has a ps/2 port that works, so i'm using it right now
>>54606366
they're basically identical to zealios
winkeyless sells them for .35¢
>>54606395
filco high profile
the keyboard company in the UK is the only western source i've found
so they're made by SP, exported to japan, then exported to the UK, then exported back to the US and to me :^
>>54605868
Have you progressed further than this in the last four days?
>>54606226
NCIX is one of the better electronics retailers in Canada. I have not heard anything negative about their US site.
>>54606494
Can't seem to find the key caps
>>54606811
http://www.keyboardco.com/product/double_shot_filco_104_key_usa_keyset.asp
there
>>54606494
Nice pic. Guess the stems really are identical in shape eh.
>>54606226
NCIX is fantastic. I've purchased pretty much all my parts from them. They even do price matching online and instore.
Their prices for most things are usually cheaper than canadacomputers
>>54606868
basically identical
besides color
>>54606852
How bout that redkey
>>54607386
signature plastics sells it through their webstore
pimpmykeyboard.com
they are SA profile
>>54584436
>striped underwear
>striped stockings
>tail butt plug
these are my fetishes
>>54608263
too bad they all belong to a man
>>54608343
>man
that's not necessarily a bad thing
First
>>54608493
The fuck is that shit?
