ITT: we post free software that has overtaken or is better than the proprietary equivalent.
I'll start
>>54549241
7zip > winrar
>>54549303
who pays for winrar?
Linux
>>54549303
firefox > explorer
>>54549314
I do
Wine > Windows
>>54549241
CUPS print server
>>54549241
>Chris Sawyer wrote all of his games in x86 assembly
>>54549356
>Navigating your file system with a web browser
Vim > Notepad
>>54549241
vim > sublime
>>54549395
Most games used to be coded in Assembly
Every NES, SNES and GameBoy game, for instance
Vim > Windows 10
>>54549356
? firefox doesnt work for my task bar
>>54549423
Emacs > Windows
Anything > NTFS > HFS+
Anything > Windows 10
OpenMW
>>54549241
7-Zip
VLC & MPV
qBittorrent
Firefox & Chromium
Mono/Xamarin
Vulkan
>>54549314
based.
KVM > VirtualBox
>>54549303
7z is not better than winrar
libreoffice >msoffice
desu
>>54549486
Fucking oath this.
Ive been watching openMW dev for about a year now and six months ago it was already more impressive than vanilla morrowind, their releases since then have been nothing short of astonishing, really.
This could completely revitalize the game in terms of graphical and gameplay quality if the modding community got behind it, which i hope they do, there's so much support for different systems in this and it could seriously become a cult favorite in under a year.
Much love.
MW meme.
>>54549707
Is it even close to playable?
>inb4 let's write it in D
>inb4 let's rewrte all the code in C++
Why do Winfags use such a shit filesystem?
>>54549395
That's not roller coaster tycoon.
>>54549771
Is this using the FUSE ntfs driver because that thing is slow as fuck
>>54549804
Rollercoaster tycoon was written on top of transport tycoon deluxe engine. Originally Chris wanted to make a sequel to transport tycoon deluxe but he got really obsessed with rollercoasters and the entire project changed.
>>54549804
>The development of OpenTTD was driven by the desire to extend the abilities of Transport Tycoon Deluxe to support user-made additions to the graphics and gameplay. Also, users wanted to play the game on more modern operating systems and alternative computer architectures which Transport Tycoon Deluxe did not support, being released in 1994 for DOS and programmed in assembly language.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenTTD#History
eat shit, retard
gimp > photoshop
>>54549241
OBS, that's the only thing I can think of. For the rest, more than 90% of proprietary software is just better than free alternatives.
>>54549886
I disagree. I use Affinity Photo as a non-subscription alternative to photoshop
fuck you adobe and fuck your creative cloud
ITT: Mostly wrong answers
>>54549886
>moeshit reaction image
you could have yielded more (You)s if you didn't instantly flag it as a bait shitpost with that attachment
x264
OpenSSH
NSS, LibreSSL, GnuTLS
ffmpeg(mpv, mplayer, mpc-hc, vlc, etc)
firefox, thunderbird, chromium
>>54549886
krita > photoshop
>>54549590
haha
funny joke
>>54549806
NTFS was tested on Windows, while the rest were tested on some Linux
>>54549886
Fuck off with your shitty bait.
>>54549303
>>54550038
https://blogs.cisco.com/security/talos/multiple-7-zip-vulnerabilities-discovered-by-talos
LOL
>>54549397
Kek
>>54550055
http://www.zdnet.com/article/critical-winrar-vulnerability-places-500-million-users-at-risk/
lmao xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
>>54550134
well winrar still better than 7kekz.
>>54549886
>GIMP
>can not even select multiple layers
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=730216
GTK File Select 2.0 right here
>>54549766
Sure it is
>>54550160
Great argument.
>>54549486
Why would you want to play that outdated game when you could be playing skyrim instead.
>>54550233
Fuck off, you're not baiting anyone here
>>54549415
but how? how did they do it? this question still puzzles me to this day although ive read many answers on the subject on stack overflow
t. noob in programming
>>54549241
Puddletag > mp3tag
Openhardwaremonitor > HWinfo64
MicroG > Google Play Services
OBS > Shadowplay/Plays.tv
>>54550055
They're already patched.
Are there any video editing programs that come close to paid software?
>>54550273
The same way any computer is programmed.
>>54550319
windows movie maker is honestly not terrible
& free as in beer
>>54550055
Jokes on you, it's already fixed in 16.00
U MAD, FAGGOT?
>>54550055
>The flaws were fixed in 7-Zip 16.00, which was released Tuesday.
>>54550273
Assembly is you basically writing a program by telling it exactly what memory addresses to edit and what values to put in those addresses. It's extremely tedious but its not really difficult grasp if you know what you're doing.
LaTeX
>>54550557
Is there even any proprietary alternative to LaTeX (Office suites don't count)?
Everything>Cortana
AIMP>(any music player)
Bitcoin>(fiat)
Exact Audio Copy>(any other ripper)
>>54550615
there's a thing called Arbortext Advanced Print Publisher but it seems like the main proprietary alternatives are either office suites (which as you said dont really count) or things like Adobe InDesign which focus more on the design aspect than the typesetting
>>54550273
>>54550444
yeah, assembly's more tedious than it is difficult
i find it even easier to do than all those higher level languages, to be honest
>>54549486
My only problem with this is that it requires a better computer than my core2duo thinkpad.
I wish they could try for getting close to the older system requirements for underpowered systems.
>>54550769
They're not targeting your older machine. You're going to have to fork the codebase to make it work on your older machine.
>>54549241
Gimp
Blender
With plugins they can do anything non-free software can, maybe it's because I've spent so much time using them, but I find them overall better.
>>54550769
Have you tried it after they made the engine switch? The OSG-version performs a LOT better.
https://forum.openmw.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3197
>>54550273
Rom hacking general is a pretty good place to lurk if you're interested in that kind of thing.
>>>/vr/3163930
>>54550833
>Gimp
>Blender
are not serious competitors to proprietary software like PS or Maya/3Ds
>>54549241
>"what game is that? I'll try it!"
>play 15 minutes
>fuckin headache
>uninstall.
>>54550900
Note the deficiencies in Blender versus 3DS. "I'm not used the interface" is not an answer.
>>54549446
Why does HFS+ get shit on so much? What's NTFS got that it doesn't?
>>54549314
My dad did. He figured it was pretty fair since he used it a lot.
>>54549558
rtorrent > qBittorrent
>>54550837
How can I get openmw-osg to install? I've just been using the Ubuntu Openmw PPA
>>54551245
>Note the deficiencies in Blender versus 3DS.
Let's just pick the #1 result on google instead of going through them all.
http://www.tdt3d.com/articles_viewer.php?art_id=99
Blender lacks or falls short in:
Industries populated
Company support for single users
Supports reactivities for single users
DVD training
DXF
IGES
>>54551277
No.
rtorrent doesn't even have a GUI.
at least say "transmission>qbittorrent" if you're going to b8.
>>54551331
They switched with 0.37, there should be no additional steps.
So you're probably running the OSG version if you've played/updated the game in the past 5 months
>>54550319
No
Shortcut for basic stuff though
>>54551235
I got really into OpenTTD back in 2010 or so. Once I got over the steep learning curve, it was tons of fun for awhile.
Then I tried playing against the AI and never played again. That's some next-level shit right there.
>>54550833
Blender might be the worst program I have ever used.
>>54550273
The assembly code makes calls to a graphics library such as opengl (not sure if that's what they used back then but same idea).
>>54549403
You mean because it's cooler to use command line tools? In Terms of code production speed sublime is way better!
>>54551414
Strange. It runs slow as hell on the hardware I'm on. It's a core2duo intel thinkpad X200 with 8GB RAM and a iGPU.
>>54549868
Shut the fuck up, dumbass. You still have to pay for the superior Rollercoaster Tycoon
>>54551561
>he doesn't know about OpenRCT2
>>54551561
https://github.com/OpenRCT2/OpenRCT2
>>54551468
You might be the worst user blender ever had
Anyone know of a good image mounting software that works with old games, other than Alcohol 52%? There's got to be one.
>>54551682
Wincdemu
>>54551682
Windows 10
WinCDEmu for previous Windowses.
>>54551682
I like virtualclonedrive for older windows versions.
Windows 8 and higher can do it themselves.
>>54549400
notepad++ > vim
>>54551791
this
>>54549701
haha no.
maybe
office > libre > notepad.
>>54549314
>2016
>ignoring the difference between free and gratis
shiggydiggy
>>54551853
>2016
>arbitrarily exchanging "free", "libre" and "gratis"
who the fuck says "gratis software"
free: as in beer
libre: as in liberty
>>54551446
>Then I tried playing against the AI and never played again. That's some next-level shit right there.
The guys that made it are wizards which means the AI is a wizard, just enjoy the worldbuilding and have fun.
Dwarf fortress is free software
>>54552072
Not even close to being better than PS
>>54552085
Obviously not, it's meant for drawing, not photo editing.
>>54552054
funny joke
if it was free software the game would actually be playable and optimized by now
>>54552167
It is playable though? Any other wrong questioms?
>>54551887
>who the fuck says "gratis software"
I do
>>54552422
i didn't ask a question
do you speak english?
Any free cadcam software, alternatively any free software for modeling fluid physics
Android. Of course I'm talking about AOSP.
>b b but it's a mobile tracking device
Kys
>>54551744
>>54551729
The problem is the DRM or whatever the hell is on the old discs. IMG backups don't work, it seems only .bin works which Windows cannot mount at least to my knowledge.
>>54552510
OpenFOAM for the latter
>>54551247
in ext4 opisafaggot != OPisafaggot
in hfs+ opisafaggot == OPisafaggot
>>54550833
>gimp
No. Have you even used photoshop?
>>54552544
You will almost certainly need a NOCD/NODVD hacked exe, regardless of your virtual drive software, to actually run a game which uses the physical disk as DRM.
>>54552552
both hfs+ and ntfs support case-insensitivity
windows doesn't, though. and osx just defaults it to disabled
>>54552572
that's not true, programs that properly emulate an optical drive, coupled with properly-dumped disc images, can pass as "official" discs to game software
>>54552580
case-sensitivity*
>>54552629
rarely does this work on an OS 10+ years newer than the game or CD, unless the DRM is cracked, since it depends on legacy driver behavior and makes assumptions about the drive hardware
for example,DRM tech used in the 1-4x CD drive (IDE) heyday will see SATA CD/DVD drives as illegitimate, even if the disk itself is brand new out of the box.
>>54551534
ngl really like the multi-cursor stuff in sublime if I want to butcher a bunch of text en masse
not >>54549403 but knowing vim really well is great if you work on linux servers. there's no sublime there.
>>54552580
using case-sensitive variant makes some apps not working
>>54552750
that is beside the point
>>54552716
i don't think i've run into a case where a game was unable to verify an emulated disc, though i do often use nocd's for the convenience
if you can give an example of a problem game, i'd like to test it
>>54549314
postal inspectors
>>54550103
SAS, minitab, and mathematica are all better desu
>>54553009
I'm picking up SAS at the moment for a job using SAS, it's pretty powerful featureset wise.
>>54553058
I haven't used it in years, I landed a new job in January and almost lost my shit when I saw a shortcut on my desktop to SAS
>>54553125
I hope it won't be too much pain.
>>54553148
You'll be fine family man
>>54549314
bought it on my companies purchasing card, figured i'd support the dev despite the fact the first google search result for "rarreg.key" is a working product key
>>54551344
>http://www.tdt3d.com/articles_viewer.php?art_id=99
>2007-11-07 01:58:00
Try looking at a modern one. Blender since BMesh has been shitting all over the competition.
>>54549886
if you think that un-ironically you've never used either.
>>54549886
GIMP is equivalent to PS for general usage. Unless you're getting paid for it, there's no need to use proprietary software. The only people that claim otherwise are using baseless arguments like "PS does this like this, why doesn't GIMP emulate PS exactly?". GIMP has never claimed to be a competitor, and you have to factor that in.
atom > sublime
>>54553357
>chrome
>>54553357
emacs > atom > sublime
>>54549397
You actually can.
And what's wrong with it?
>>54553243
>GIMP is equivalent to PS
>GIMP has never claimed to be a competitor
so it's equivalent, but not a competitor?
how is that even semantically possible?
>>54553667
something can be like something without them competing.
oh sorry, i forgot you're in the US where every fucker must compete with every other fucker over anything possible.
>>54553667
>general usage
>>54550621
>Bitcoin>(fiat)
Bitcoin will collapse under the weight of the blockchain.
>>54552716
>>54552823
For some reason only alcohol 52% and daemontools are somehow able to fool the DRM on all of my games (Caesar III, Age of Empires II, Age of Mythology). No other mounting software is able to work including the ones suggested here.
>>54549241
VLC > any cuck player
>>54553726
>i forgot you're in the US
it's a US website. running on computers the US invented and internet the US government invented.
Be glad we made it accessible for you thirdworldfags at all.
>>54550160
>Damage control gymnastics of a /v/ cuck
Time to suicide, faggot
>>54550319
no linux cucks can't into video editing
Comodo Internet Security. Is there a better anti-virus\firewall than this?
>>54554201
UFW.
>>54551344
Nothing inherent to the software itself, then, you daft cunt.
![logo[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/oC23BUb.jpg "logo[1].jpg")
I always liked Celestia way more than any other planetarium software from a visualization perspective, at least if you're into extrasolar stuff. Everything else feels far too earthbound or looks like ass.
Even Space Engine still has some things about it I don't really like compared to Celestia, it takes a little too much artistic license with procedural generation.
>>54549241
I think minetest is better than minecraft
>>54551473
They were called PPU, picture processing units. OpenGL didn't exist back then. Also, wouldn't use the term "calling" them. It was more of writing and reading from set memory addresses.
>>54549766
It is just as playable as vanilla morrowind, and can even use some morrowind mods.
All quests, items, locations l etc. are implemented
>>54549303
I have a friend that INSISTS on using fucking WinRar because it's "better". Fucking faggot.
>>54554322
Isn't that procedurally generated up and down along with side to side?
>>54549303
>use winrar for years
>people like you come along
>try out 7zip
>a while later it can't open an archive for some reason
>try to open it with winrar
>it works flawlessly
I just pirate winrar pro now, so I don't have it nagging at me
>>54554627
this is because winrar uses a proprietary rar format that uses a patented algorithim. it's shit compared to xz compression, but people still use it
if you get the nonfree rar components with 7z you can work with winrar files. winrar lacks certain functionality that 7z has, not vice versa
>>54554101
>VLC
>>54551366
>rtorrent doesn't have a gui
Git gud sempai, if you know what you're doing it doesn't need one
>>54549377
This is actually true
>>54549486
who the fuck wants to play vanilla morrowind, or morrowind at all at this point
game is shit in every capacity besides story
>>54549397
>what is konqueror
>>54551366
>rtorrent doesn't even have a GUI.
Excuse me?
>>54550319
Try Kdenlive
>>54553667
>>54553726
>>54553243
GIMP is equivalent to Paint.NET, not PS. Don't oversell the software as it currently stands: the processes, patents, and techniques Photoshop has right now cannot be emulated in GIMP.
>>54552510
Well, here are some ideas.
Openfoam as said. Salome meca, elmer, paraview ~freecad, etc, those are the beat free cad porgrams out there
>>54549701
At least libre office writer or abiword is better than office word.
I had so many bugs, crashes and troubles with office, and it is fucking slow.
After using a free writer, you realize that they do the job as office word.
AviSynth
>>54549766
Why of all obscure languages use D? Any reasoning behing this except excluding people from collaborating?
Arch > other Linux > windows.
Arch is amazing best operating system I've ever used. Don't fall for the /g arch is shit meme ,there are just people here, who are too dumb to install it lol xD!1!.it also gets you girls lol its how I got my gf.
>>54556310
>what is explorer.exe
they where the same back in 9x times
Wikipedia > Microsoft Encarta
>>54553243
GIMP is perfectly adequate for making dank memes.
>pic related
Made with GIMP, converted to WebM with ffmpeg.
>>54549241
What's that, transport tycoon?
>>54558753
its literally in the screenshot and filename
its a reverse engineering effort for transport tycoon that's been going on for almost a decade
>>54558763
Fuck I loved that game but it was quite hard as a kid to get into, I'm downloading that shit.
Is it any good?
>>54558774
yeah, and of course the community expanded it way beyond its original scope so there's a bunch of mods for it
it can also be ported to any platform under the sun now
>>54555067
Way more than enough for you to look like a collossal faggot
>>54549701
No... libre is pretty shit.
Office > Google Apps > Open Office > Libre
>>54558741
lol is that webm serious?
>>54558803
105.7% serious.
>>54558796
>open office > Libre office.
Come on dude, open office is dead.
sharex > puush, gyazo, lightshot, snagit, etc.
>>54558779
Amazing, some of these old games, augmented with new community stuff are so good.
I just love tinkering around in these sand box type games setting up my economy etc.
The closest thing I had to that in modern games was the anno series but they fucked that up with the latest installment
>>54550833
>Gimp
no
>Blender
yes
>>54554706
id rather trust proprietary with anything mission critical to compress, just because i feel like i would get fucked over less by it failing to compress correctly but not telling me.
>>54558844
>tfw no decent linux alternative for ShareX
>>54558932
scrot and cURL?
>>54551561
its may be called parkitect, but openrct2 is pretty damn good.
>>54558672
kek
>>54550294
question, is obs as low impact as shadowplay?
apache/nginx > IIS
>>54558937
>a bunch of CLI tools
>decent
I know I can get a _shit equivalent_ in one way or the other (for example using Shutter). That was not my point
>>54552823
Had that with Settlers 2 - The Next Generation. Some shitty securom rootkit that required the image to be cracked - and that solution was highly dependent on the system you intended it to run on.
It wouldn't even run from disk on a machine where there was a virtual drive.
As much as I love this game I hate that I can't play it.
>>54550134
>winrar
>500 million users
>>54558929
>trust proprietary
nowerdays is mostly equivalent to
>I'd rather have an underpaid customer support clerk I can be venting my anger to even if it doesn't change anything else
just sayin'
>STRG+F osmand
>0 results
>>54559054
while back there was a bug in i believe 7zip where large compressions failed but never told you, so someone lost 200+gb worth of isos to it.
its things like this that make me shy away from open source for things that can't be fixed if they fuck up.
>>54559020
yeah, it's probably a lot more than that
>>54549590
the search continues
>>54551534
People use sublime because "it looks cool", vim for productivity.
>>54551245
>>54550900
blender is VERY prone to crashing, even when people who make their livelihood demo the program it crashes on them.
and this is just from a real world use perspective, getting a job because you know blender isn't fucking happening, but 3dsmax or maya it would, however that said i prefer modo, if only because the dev team isn't condescending douches (the whole we make blender for blender users when asked if they would make the program more intuitive)
>>54552569
for a good number of years, gimp could keep up, but now... gimp is to far behind to be called a legitimate alternative.
>>54559015
What's wrong with CLI tools? You don't actually need to open a terminal to use them, from what I can tell from their website, it sounds doable through a bash script:
>Take a screenshot or a screencast, have it uploaded and get the URL copied to your clipboard with a single hotkey.
For instance, every time I press ctrl+shift+F12, a bash script runs and I get a random password generated and sent to my clipboard, eg.:/17<Q&1jcc}sz~txofz)+]~dR"a
`p]zCjn[QzP?lp
~4e*vuzVEXTA2N"IsE!Zr'%hyJ|;14r
*%ho\?i$GOj`uh;{x#">Oy\OSMUd.R?<.g
s8P0,w't3.KpBY2J
>>54559077
I wouldn't even trust a paid one blindly with my data, that's why I test back.
>>54554322
I have to ask, compared to minecraft is anything missing?
How does the game run? Is it shit like minecraft?
How are the mods? There are a few tools I required in minecraft to enjoy playing it
1) arrow bombs, makes terraforming en mass believable looking
2) a way to rapidly grow trees/make a massive fuck off big tree to make a home out of
>>54554322
it looks way better than a few years ago
>>54559141
Alright, I'll script something together.
>>54559231
If you use KDE, you can use the second part for the clipboard:# 1. Generate a password with apg
string=$(/usr/bin/apg -a 1 -n 1 -m 8 -x 36 -M sncl -c cl_seed)
# 2. Send password to Klipper
dbus-send --type=method_call --dest=org.kde.klipper \
/klipper org.kde.klipper.klipper.setClipboardContents \
string:"$string"
Just gotta make sure Klipper is open, just put it in autostart.
>>54559260
I happen to use KDE, thanks!
>>54558987
Shadowplay is hardware implemented, so software like OBS can never compete.
That being said, OBS is still low impact. You just need to tinker a lot with the settings to get it right
>>54554129
>running on computers the US invented
Apparently Alan Turing was American
>running on internet invented by the US government
Apparently Sir Tim Berners Lee is the US government
>>54559299
i have a shit cpu and don't have much hdd space to work with, so i want something that can do h.264 without crippling my system, as it stands i use dxtory with lagarith lossless codec but over time space became more and more an issue.
>>54559342
>Apparently Sir Tim Berners Lee is the US government
you're fucking stupid
the internet existed before www and http
Ruby > PowerShell
>>54553009
>SAS
top kek anon, sas is deprecated, minitab is for students in the 90s and mathematica is for something different entirely (but mathematica's functionality is vailable in r packages)
VLC > Windows Media Player
SQlite > Berkeley
>>54559536
But Berkeley is also free software...
>>54549303
Can't create split multi volumes for bitlocker sites with recovery records
0/10
>>54553009
>SAS
Now you're just trolling. I'm certain R will replace most other statistical programming languages / packages in serious applications in the next ten years.
Even my Public Policy school switched from teaching Statistics in Stata to R.
>>54550319
ffmpeg
>>54559589
You can use the command line tools split and cat, they are free software.
>>54558672
Microsoft Encarta has a powerful nostalgic effect though.
>>54550233
>>54555067
>underage faggots detected
>>54559661
Those aren't available on Windows, and 7zip isn't available on Linux.
>>54556667
Have you ever tried configuring that shit? I'm gonna stick with qBittorrent, or Tixati if I happen to be on Windoze. Yes, I'm a public tracker pleb. I don't download enough to make the commitment to a private tracker.
>>54559747
>Those aren't available on Windows,
What about MinGW, CoreUtils for Windows, or CygWin? One (or all) of them should have those two.
>and 7zip isn't available on Linux.
p7zip is.
Everything else should just go and die.
>>54559798
I thought about Cygwin but I wasn't sure.
Is p7zip any good?
>>54559950
No idea, most archives I extract are tarballs.
>>54559950
Sure, it's fine. Does what it should, eh.
>>54559124
has never crashed on me f a m
>>54549400
Please stop with the vim.
>>54559019
settlers 2 is on GoG, meaning it's DRM-free (no keys/cracks required)
shouldn't feel guilty torrenting it if you own the original disc
>>54559058
i keep thinking it's too obvious to mention, i use it all the time, i've even made some OSM contributions (pretty minor, mind)
>>54549771
NTFS beats everything, or are you colorblind?
>>54560833
>takes more time to do the same task
anon, that's a "lower is better" chart
>>54559854
Tomcat is pretty useful for what it does, but man can it have issues.
>>54549241
I don't know how or why anyone spends money on MS SQL when Postgres is free.
>>54561800
Support reasons probably.
>>54559260
>>54559280
Took me a while but I have it running now. PrntScrn does a region-capure, SCP's it to my private hosting and then copies the URL to Klipper.
Handy, but of course nowhere near as amazing as ShareX, which had annotations, video, and of course supports any imagehoster in existence
Proprietary scorewriters don't even come close.
>>54549842
>Rollercoater tyCOON
LOL!
he said "coon"
>>54549241
The reversed google play binaries
>>54549241
>i saved $350 building my own pc!
>y-yeah, I have to buy a new graphics card every year, but it's worth it! muh vidya!
>oh yea, and I had to sink hundreds of hours into buying the parts and snapping them together and installing a bunch of janky software
>sure you can see it anon, unfortunately it's having its weekly virus cleanup and defrag, but you can see its master race glory in about 4 hours
retards
>>54562083
What are you even talking about?
>>54562083
????
>>54562112
think he's talking about console vs pc
>>54560598
you are lying or you don't use it, one of the two, blender id notorious for being unstable and a program that teaches you to save often because of it.
>>54562083
um... i have a 6 going on 7 year old phenom 2 955 black, and i have had... 3 gpus with it, one was a hold over from my old computer, a 6800 ultra, then a 5770 1gb and then a 280X, first card was top end when i got it, but due to clerical errors i got it and the rest of the parts cheaper then if i built that pc myself
the second gpu was 150$ when i got it, and lasted me i think 4-5 years, and my new one has been going strong for little under 2 years and will likely make it into my next computer.
money i saved building shit myself, well over a thousand considering computers prebuilt today for under 1000 are still weaker then what i have.
money i saved on software, well... games alone i have saved nearly 10 grand so far, other software i have hold overs from college still so no need to upgrade most of it.
